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Reply #120 - Sep 17th, 2018 at 8:57pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 8:51pm:
Secret Wars wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 8:25pm:
Who are the biggest karnal?


That's a tough one, Secret. Should we ask FD?


It's not tough at all, but I can understand why you are drivelling and avoiding, it's  not a good look from the fellow Muslims is it?

https://www.unrwa.org/how-you-can-help/government-partners/funding-trends/donor-charts

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Reply #121 - Sep 17th, 2018 at 8:59pm
 
Secret Wars wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 8:57pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 8:51pm:
Secret Wars wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 8:25pm:
Who are the biggest karnal?


That's a tough one, Secret. Should we ask FD?


It's not tough at all, but I can understand why you are drivelling and avoiding, it's  not a good look from the fellow Muslims is it?

https://www.unrwa.org/how-you-can-help/government-partners/funding-trends/donor-charts



Don't want to say, eh?

There there. If you want an answer, ask a Muselman.

G always answers. I can't seem to get a thing out of you, dear.
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Reply #122 - Sep 17th, 2018 at 9:04pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 8:59pm:
Secret Wars wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 8:57pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 8:51pm:
Secret Wars wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 8:25pm:
Who are the biggest karnal?


That's a tough one, Secret. Should we ask FD?


It's not tough at all, but I can understand why you are drivelling and avoiding, it's  not a good look from the fellow Muslims is it?

https://www.unrwa.org/how-you-can-help/government-partners/funding-trends/donor-charts



Don't want to say, eh?

There there. If you want an answer, ask a Muselman.

G always answers. I can't seem to get a thing out of you, dear.


Its a table and doesn't format well.  And I can see why you are resorting to drivel and so can anyone else who reads the table.

Needless to say it confirms exactly what I said, and explains your usual retreat to drivel.


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Reply #123 - Sep 17th, 2018 at 9:09pm
 
US (now ended, than you, Donald)
EU
UK
Germany

https://stepfeed.com/10-largest-donors-to-the-un-s-agency-for-palestinian-refuge...

The Pallo/Muslim buggers should start negotiating IN GOOD FAITH with Israel. Wouldn't that be something?  It will never happen because 'good faith' is not in their scope.





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Reply #124 - Sep 17th, 2018 at 9:23pm
 
Secret Wars wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 9:04pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 8:59pm:
Secret Wars wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 8:57pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 8:51pm:
Secret Wars wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 8:25pm:
Who are the biggest karnal?


That's a tough one, Secret. Should we ask FD?


It's not tough at all, but I can understand why you are drivelling and avoiding, it's  not a good look from the fellow Muslims is it?

https://www.unrwa.org/how-you-can-help/government-partners/funding-trends/donor-charts



Don't want to say, eh?

There there. If you want an answer, ask a Muselman.

G always answers. I can't seem to get a thing out of you, dear.


Its a table and doesn't format well.  And I can see why you are resorting to drivel and so can anyone else who reads the table.

Needless to say it confirms exactly what I said, and explains your usual retreat to drivel.




You haven't posted anything yet, Secret.

Wake me up when you do, dear, okay?
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Reply #125 - Sep 17th, 2018 at 9:26pm
 
Frank wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 9:09pm:
US (now ended, than you, Donald)
EU
UK
Germany

https://stepfeed.com/10-largest-donors-to-the-un-s-agency-for-palestinian-refuge...

The Pallo/Muslim buggers should start negotiating IN GOOD FAITH with Israel. Wouldn't that be something?  It will never happen because 'good faith' is not in their scope.



That can't be right, old boy. It's not in table format.

You?
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Reply #126 - Sep 17th, 2018 at 9:36pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 9:23pm:
Secret Wars wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 9:04pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 8:59pm:
Secret Wars wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 8:57pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 8:51pm:
Secret Wars wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 8:25pm:
Who are the biggest karnal?


That's a tough one, Secret. Should we ask FD?


It's not tough at all, but I can understand why you are drivelling and avoiding, it's  not a good look from the fellow Muslims is it?

https://www.unrwa.org/how-you-can-help/government-partners/funding-trends/donor-charts



Don't want to say, eh?

There there. If you want an answer, ask a Muselman.

G always answers. I can't seem to get a thing out of you, dear.


Its a table and doesn't format well.  And I can see why you are resorting to drivel and so can anyone else who reads the table.

Needless to say it confirms exactly what I said, and explains your usual retreat to drivel.




You haven't posted anything yet, Secret.

Wake me up when you do, dear, okay?


Hahahah, you are full of poo, piss and lies and drivel. Money talks, your bullshit... goes on and on and on...
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Reply #127 - Sep 17th, 2018 at 9:47pm
 
Secret Wars wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 9:36pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 9:23pm:
Secret Wars wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 9:04pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 8:59pm:
Secret Wars wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 8:57pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 8:51pm:
Secret Wars wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 8:25pm:
Who are the biggest karnal?


That's a tough one, Secret. Should we ask FD?


It's not tough at all, but I can understand why you are drivelling and avoiding, it's  not a good look from the fellow Muslims is it?

https://www.unrwa.org/how-you-can-help/government-partners/funding-trends/donor-charts



Don't want to say, eh?

There there. If you want an answer, ask a Muselman.

G always answers. I can't seem to get a thing out of you, dear.


Its a table and doesn't format well.  And I can see why you are resorting to drivel and so can anyone else who reads the table.

Needless to say it confirms exactly what I said, and explains your usual retreat to drivel.




You haven't posted anything yet, Secret.

Wake me up when you do, dear, okay?


Hahahah, you are full of poo, piss and lies and drivel. Money talks, your bullshit... goes on and on and on...


Is this what you mean by drivel?
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Reply #128 - Sep 17th, 2018 at 9:58pm
 
Just responding in kind, you have been answered and you have had nuffin but drivel and distraction ever since.

The Palestinians if they ever gave it a thought should be damn pleased they don't have to rely on muslim nations for support.

And you know it but your head is just too far up your apologist arse to admit it.
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Reply #129 - Sep 17th, 2018 at 11:14pm
 
Secret Wars wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 9:58pm:
Just responding in kind, you have been answered and you have had nuffin but drivel and distraction ever since.

The Palestinians if they ever gave it a thought should be damn pleased they don't have to rely on muslim nations for support.

And you know it but your head is just too far up your apologist arse to admit it.


Changed your mind, have you? So they do get aid from Muslim nations?

Sorry, Secret, I didn't catch your answer.
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Reply #130 - Sep 18th, 2018 at 8:35am
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 11:14pm:
Secret Wars wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 9:58pm:
Just responding in kind, you have been answered and you have had nuffin but drivel and distraction ever since.

The Palestinians if they ever gave it a thought should be damn pleased they don't have to rely on muslim nations for support.

And you know it but your head is just too far up your apologist arse to admit it.


Changed your mind, have you? So they do get aid from Muslim nations?

Sorry, Secret, I didn't catch your answer.


What I said

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 7:59pm:
It's funny, not even the neighbouring Islamic countries are helping the Palestinians, for a long time, and I haven't looked recently, but the biggest donors of aid, services and materiel were...America and Israel.  Grin

The great Satan.  Roll Eyes


When I said services and materiel I was thinking of one of its biggest neighbours, Egypt. Maybe you should look up the history of Egypts closed borders with Palestine, though I guess you won't, checking a provided UN link was beyond you, you prefered drivel.

And after you have done that, do what you still refuse to do, check the UN link I provided that tabled the biggest donors, but, as you prefer ignorance and your head in the sand I have gone to the trouble of listing them for you as provided by the UN, they are,

The US,
EU,
Germany,
UK,
Sweden, and finally
Saudi Arabia,
then it's Japan,
Switzerland,
Norway,
Netherlands,
Canada,
Australia,
Denmark,
Italy
and a long way back is the UAE.

And what of the neighbouring countries, where is Egypt, Jordan and Lebanon? Not listed. Hell Egypt mostly refuses to even allow humanitarian supplies to come through its shared border.

The Palestinians should be glad that they don't rely on fellow Muslim countries for support. 

Everything I said confirmed. Everything you said...drivel.  Smiley
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Reply #131 - Sep 18th, 2018 at 10:31pm
 
Sorry, Sad, I can't read that. It doesn't have a table.

Plus it has a neighbouring Islamic country in there. Better take it down, dear.
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Reply #132 - Sep 19th, 2018 at 9:14am
 
freediver wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 8:51pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 17th, 2018 at 1:51pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 16th, 2018 at 1:03pm:
Which bit is there any doubt about? That we gave the PA money, or that the PA funds terrorism?


Option 3 - that Julie Bishop "explained" it.


Here Gandalf, I got the crayons out just for you:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 7th, 2018 at 11:53am:
freediver wrote on Sep 6th, 2018 at 10:09pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 6th, 2018 at 7:39pm:
thats not even remotely coherent FD.

You just quipped that you found out on google that the PA supports terrorists. You seem to think that this is somehow relevant to your claim that Bishop explained that our money goes to terrorists - in the quote where she explained no such thing. Perhaps you could enlighten us?


You could just quote what either of us actually said.


You mean again? Sure FD, I'm feeling generous...

what Bishop actually said:

Quote:
Ms Bishop said she was confident no Australian funds had been used inappropriately.

"I am confident that previous Australian funding to the PA through the World Bank has been used as intended," she said in a statement.

"However, I am concerned that in providing funds for this aspect of the PA's operations, there is an opportunity for it to use its own budget to [fund] activities that Australia would never support."


what you actually said (about this quote)

Quote:
Read your own quote. We put $10 million into the Palestinian Authority's bank account. They withdraw a 'different' $10 million to give to terrorists.


Quote:
Julie Bishop's explanation of how Australian government funds end up supporting terrorism


Personally, I wouldn't be highlighting 'what was actually said' if I were you FD, it just makes you look ridiculous. I'd be sticking to your previous 'you have to read between the lines' and 'well you have to look at what Bishop didn't say' angles.


Spot the difference if you can FD:

Julie Bishop's explanation of how Australian government funds end up supporting terrorism

and

in providing funds for this aspect of the PA's operations, there is an opportunity for it to use its own budget to [fund] activities that Australia would never support.

When you claimed Bishop stated as fact that our funds "end up supporting terrorism" - was that an honest mistake that you are having difficulty conceding - or do you honestly still not understand the stark difference between what Bishop actually said and what you claim she said?
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Reply #133 - Sep 19th, 2018 at 12:14pm
 
Are you suggesting that the PA never ever took that opportunity to use it's own funds to finance terrorism?

Or are you using your special Muslim logic to claim that a politician cannot explain how something happens unless they also declare that they actually did indirectly fund terrorism?
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Reply #134 - Sep 19th, 2018 at 1:50pm
 
freediver wrote on Sep 19th, 2018 at 12:14pm:
Are you suggesting that the PA never ever took that opportunity to use it's own funds to finance terrorism?


All $10 million of course - which is another BS baseless claim of yours. Its got nothing to do with what I think or said, we're talking about what Bishop said. This is your explanation, not Bishop's, and you are blatantly and dishonestly verbling Bishop to verify a conclusion that you came to, not her.

Do you agree its a little odd for Bishop to provide an "explanation" for something happening as fact that she had just stated she didn't believe happened in the first place?
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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