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Reply #15 - Sep 2nd, 2018 at 1:28pm
 
issuevoter wrote on Aug 15th, 2018 at 6:52am:
Yadda's opening post is worthy better responses than the mean spirited and foulmouthed ridicule preceding. And for once, he is posting a philosophical question instead of Christian dogma.

However, the biblical quotes at the end of the OP, furnish nothing more than the opinions of dead people, and tend to imply that he's looking for a way to bring his bogus notion of a "God" into this.

The question is essentially, "What is life," its older than dirt, and it is not going to be answered here.

How can life be older than dirt?
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Reply #16 - Sep 2nd, 2018 at 7:18pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 14th, 2018 at 4:02pm:
For two, we well know the system of neurochemical signals running from your brain to your hand musculature to cause it to move.

And what causes - or not causes- the neurochemical signals?

Neuroscience doesn't  address intentionality and personhood and agency. All it can do is posit lots of 'nothing buttery': things like personhood, intentionality, agency, ets are 'nothing but neutochemical signals'. Which, of course, explains nothing.

When you lift your hand, it's  you who is lifting it, not neorochemical signlals since they have no agency or intentions.  Only you do. You are person in that picture who is lifting - or not- your hand.

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Reply #17 - Sep 2nd, 2018 at 9:58pm
 
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 2nd, 2018 at 1:28pm:
issuevoter wrote on Aug 15th, 2018 at 6:52am:
Yadda's opening post is worthy better responses than the mean spirited and foulmouthed ridicule preceding. And for once, he is posting a philosophical question instead of Christian dogma.

However, the biblical quotes at the end of the OP, furnish nothing more than the opinions of dead people, and tend to imply that he's looking for a way to bring his bogus notion of a "God" into this.

The question is essentially, "What is life," its older than dirt, and it is not going to be answered here.

How can life be older than dirt?


Its the question that is "older than dirt." And the older than is a colloquialism.
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Re: THOUGHTS [a meditation]on animating power.....
Reply #18 - Sep 2nd, 2018 at 11:50pm
 
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 2nd, 2018 at 1:28pm:
issuevoter wrote on Aug 15th, 2018 at 6:52am:
Yadda's opening post is worthy better responses than the mean spirited and foulmouthed ridicule preceding. And for once, he is posting a philosophical question instead of Christian dogma.

However, the biblical quotes at the end of the OP, furnish nothing more than the opinions of dead people, and tend to imply that he's looking for a way to bring his bogus notion of a "God" into this.

The question is essentially, "What is life," its older than dirt, and it is not going to be answered here.

How can life be older than dirt?


If you consider the timeline below, the earliest possible life was 4.2 Billion Years ago. Only 120 Million Years after the water arrived. So there has been plenty of dirt created through the various processes (erosion ...etc). I would say most of the dirt was created since life appeared. Therefore, Life is older than most of the dirt.

4600 Ma - The planet Earth forms from the accretion disc revolving around the young Sun with organic compounds (complex organic molecules) necessary for life having perhaps formed in the protoplanetary disk of cosmic dust grains surrounding it before the formation of the Earth.[13]
4500 Ma - According to the giant impact hypothesis, the Moon was formed when the planet Earth and the hypothesized planet Theia collided, sending a very large number of moonlets into orbit around the young Earth which eventually coalesced to form the Moon.[14] The gravitational pull of the new Moon stabilised the Earth's fluctuating axis of rotation and set up the conditions in which abiogenesis occurred.[15]
4404 Ma - First appearance of liquid water on Earth.
4280 Ma - Earliest possible appearance of life on Earth.[16][17][18][19]

Reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_evolutionary_history_of_life
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Reply #19 - Sep 5th, 2018 at 9:22pm
 
Frank wrote on Sep 2nd, 2018 at 7:18pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 14th, 2018 at 4:02pm:
For two, we well know the system of neurochemical signals running from your brain to your hand musculature to cause it to move.

And what causes - or not causes- the neurochemical signals?

Neuroscience doesn't  address intentionality and personhood and agency. All it can do is posit lots of 'nothing buttery': things like personhood, intentionality, agency, ets are 'nothing but neutochemical signals'. Which, of course, explains nothing.

When you lift your hand, it's  you who is lifting it, not neorochemical signlals since they have no agency or intentions.  Only you do. You are person in that picture who is lifting - or not- your hand.



Not necessarily.
Parkinsons disease can cause involuntary movement of the hand
An electric shock can cause involuntary movement of the hand
A brain making a deliberate decision to move the hand is simply ONE of the possibilities.
In other words, animation of the human body is a purely mechanical phenomena 

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