Australian Politics Forum - Home automation

Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 43612 Gender:	Re: Home automation Reply #15 - Aug 12^th, 2018 at 5:55pm Security seems to be a big concern. A home computer can ensure doors and windows are locked, alarms set and the cops called if it detects an intruder, etc.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47364 At my desk.	Re: Home automation Reply #16 - Aug 12^th, 2018 at 6:02pm Great. So before you can knock on someone's door, you get a 5 minute questionnaire with things like press 1 if you are a JW. And you will spend more money repairing these devices than learning how to talk to people.
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DonDeeHippy Gold Member Offline Cool Stuff Posts: 2782 Australia Gender:	Re: Home automation Reply #17 - Aug 12^th, 2018 at 6:10pm freediver wrote on Aug 12^th, 2018 at 6:02pm: Great. So before you can knock on someone's door, you get a 5 minute questionnaire with things like press 1 if you are a JW. And you will spend more money repairing these devices than learning how to talk to people. ahh but the more of these device the more jobs
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Reply #18 - Aug 12^th, 2018 at 6:15pm

freediver wrote on Aug 12^th, 2018 at 6:02pm:

Great. So before you can knock on someone's door, you get a 5 minute questionnaire with things like press 1 if you are a JW. And you will spend more money repairing these devices than learning how to talk to people.

Why would that be? It would be just like approaching a house or unit that has a camera etc. You could just ring the doorbell and the homeowner would have his mobile phone alert him (if he was in the back of the garden etc.)

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47364 At my desk.	Re: Home automation Reply #19 - Aug 14^th, 2018 at 10:58pm Why answer the doorbell yourself when a bot can screen 80% of the people you don't like with a mere 5 minute questionnaire? That way you won't have to feel bad about telling people to f off.
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Reply #20 - Aug 14^th, 2018 at 11:03pm

freediver wrote on Aug 14^th, 2018 at 10:58pm:

Why answer the doorbell yourself when a bot can screen 80% of the people you don't like with a mere 5 minute questionnaire? That way you won't have to feel bad about telling people to f off.

Not far away.

A bot could mimic your voice. Have facial recognition. Have AI and knows you and how you would behave. Have access to your diary so you can add expected visitors and access to trends like the god-botherers always come on weekend. Hell it could have a debate with them on god for you.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 43612 Gender:	Re: Home automation Reply #21 - Aug 14^th, 2018 at 11:10pm Or you see two guys in cheap suits one holding a bible and tell your door to send them away.
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Super Nova Gold Member Offline Posts: 3039 Everywhere Gender:	Re: Home automation Reply #22 - Aug 14^th, 2018 at 11:23pm Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 14^th, 2018 at 11:10pm: Or you see two guys in cheap suits one holding a bible and tell your door to send them away. The AI sees them and sends them away without you even seeing them... that's automation rather than just remote controlled cameras, locks and comms tech.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47364 At my desk.	Re: Home automation Reply #23 - Aug 17^th, 2018 at 9:48pm You could spend all day hiding in your basement programming your doorbell.
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Cu Chulainn Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2135 Gender:	Re: Home automation Reply #24 - Aug 17^th, 2018 at 10:02pm Unforgiven wrote on Aug 12^th, 2018 at 12:31pm: Bobby has switched off Mr. Light's trickle current. Yeah, because Light had enough to spare/share in the first place. I think Bobby killed him.
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Reply #25 - Aug 18^th, 2018 at 9:29am

I was in the UK recently and just about everyone we visited had a small device that links to a cloud based service that provides a lot of automation. Amazon have one (Alexa) and also Google.

You can link them to bluetooth enable timers, music services like Amazon and Spotify and also news, weather and information services. I was so impressed I paid the 20 pound and bought one home! By saying something like "Alexa - play the Beatles" it links to spotify and streams music until told to stop. The UK is a bit more advanced than us in this but it certainly takes home automation that bit closer.

Unfortunately, the grandkids have found it so "Alexa" gets quite a workout - we have had to turn the mic input off on it.

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Reply #26 - Aug 18^th, 2018 at 11:04pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 12^th, 2018 at 11:14am:

What could be done now?

You come up to your front door, hands full of shopping etc—now you would have to fumble for your keys but won’t be long and as soon as you show your face to your front door—where a camera is—and facial recognition gets done, your door opens, not just unlocks, opens, in you go. Now you would have to kick the door shut but the door will shut for itself when all going in are inside.

This occurred to me watching the ads for facial recognition with the Apple iPhone X.

Or, you could carry one less bag and let yourself in!

I am far from a Luddite but I don't want my home automated. It reminds me of the US Space program and their development of a Pen capable of writing in zero gravity. They spent millions and came up with the Fisher Space pen, the Russians just used pencils! You can spend whatever it takes to automate your home and I will use a traditional key to open the door. We have the Alexa puck in our office/sitting room and it spends all day listening to Fox Business and my two noisy democrats (Parakeets).

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47364 At my desk.	Re: Home automation Reply #27 - Aug 19^th, 2018 at 10:21am I inherited some home automation stuff. It's great while it works, but when it breaks the effort to fix it is far greater than the convenience you gain from it. Maybe they'll iron out the bugs eventually. But you still see automatic windows on cars that don't work.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 43612 Gender:	Re: Home automation Reply #28 - Aug 19^th, 2018 at 5:43pm Just like some after nearly a year have not provided a reason for a permanent ban. I wonder if this can ever be fixed, suspect not.
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