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Aug 9th, 2018 at 10:19pm
 
Despite hysterical statements by idiots (HAARP, a device to study the ionosphere is cooling the atmosphere (what power supply, where does it put the heat etc etc?)) Or jets are spreading “chemtrails” to block out the sun and so on.

The easiest way, some way to get aerosols, SO2, to the top of the atmosphere. Will need a lot and they won’t stay up there so we get sulphurous/sulphuric acid raining down. Lovely.

Any attempts like that don’t reduce emissions so seas will still acidify.

No, reducing warming of the globe will involve reducing emissions: switching from coal/gas generation to nuclear + renewable is one way.

Going into science fiction. . .

A space elevator, a geostationary satellite connected by a strong cable to the bit of earth it hangs over so a lift can go up to bring supplies and personnel to the satellite.

The satellite can be used to maintain a giant sail covered in solar cells, the power from that being conveyed by a power cable connected between the geostationary satellite and its anchor point. A few of these—endless power with no pollution of any kind.

A lift need not blast away from earth like a rocket.


Just an idea from science fiction. We do have computers that can control the orbit of the satellite, monitor the sail etc.
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Reply #1 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 12:44pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 10:19pm:
Any attempts like that don’t reduce emissions so seas will still acidify.


Rubbish. The seas will not turn acid. They will remain alkaline. Only in "Climate Science"TM does acidify mean less alkaline.

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 10:19pm:
We do have computers that can control the orbit of the satellite, monitor the sail etc.



yes. How many satellites? What regions should it shade? What will happen to plant growth without direct sunlight? Install hydroponics on a worldwide scale?
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Reply #2 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 3:18pm
 
You have no brain.

I was not talking of shading the earth.
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Reply #3 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 3:36pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 3:18pm:
You have no brain.

I was not talking of shading the earth.



So the sail would do what? Move the earth further from the Sun?
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Reply #4 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 4:31pm
 
How about you try R E A D I N G ?
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Reply #5 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 4:46pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 4:31pm:
How about you try R E A D I N G ?


How about you quit science fiction and go back to science fantasy.
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Reply #6 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 5:24pm
 
Wow, you can’t read and see what I said? That is pathetic, Lees!
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Reply #7 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 6:13pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 5:24pm:
Wow, you can’t read and see what I said? That is pathetic, Lees!



Oh you mean this bit?-

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 10:19pm:
The satellite can be used to maintain a giant sail covered in solar cells, the power from that being conveyed by a power cable connected between the geostationary satellite and its anchor point.


Wow. That's even worse. What would the weight of the cable be to take the amperage? Multiply by the length. About 36K kilometres. The weight of the anchoring cable? The power to maintain geostationary position while also handling the loads imparted by the cables?

Be prepared to cut the cable in event of a storm. You don't want it breaking while still being powered up. The heavy cable would be bad enough let alone the people electrocuted if it was live.

As I said go back to climate fantasy.
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Reply #8 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 6:58pm
 
Finally found the bit? Clever boy!
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Reply #9 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 7:46pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 6:58pm:
Finally found the bit? Clever boy!

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Reply #10 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 7:47pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 6:58pm:
Finally found the bit? Clever boy!



yeah. Cleverer than you believing this twaddle.
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Reply #11 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 7:51pm
 
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Reply #12 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 8:53pm
 
Is that an attempt at a comeback? Oh dear!

Who said this was SciFi? Hmmmm? I believe that were me.

It is amazing tho, that a suggestion of progress, admitted right from the start is fiction, still scares 10 different kinds of schit out of Lees. All I can say is: Wow!
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Reply #13 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 9:20pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 8:53pm:
Who said this was SciFi? Hmmmm? I believe that were me.

It is amazing tho, that a suggestion of progress, admitted right from the start is fiction, still scares 10 different kinds of schit out of Lees. All I can say is: Wow!



But the trouble with it being science fiction is you believe it.
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Reply #14 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 9:42pm
 
Nope.

But you DID get scared schitless by even a SciFi alternative power source.

The space elevator is a very old idea in SciFi, I must have read about it in the 70s but the stories doubtless date back further. Can’t find much decent ScFi anymore (Neal Stephenson a BIG exception as is Terry Pratchett.)

One story was a bit prescient: one such cable was attacked by terrorists, some separatist group IIRC, not Muslims.

And Lees got scared of an idea! {Imagine millions of emoticons}
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