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Re: Swedish authorities can't cope with growth in rape
Reply #90 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 2:35pm
 
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Reply #91 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 3:01pm
 
I am awaiting an expert opinion from Ozpolitic rape specialist Gordon before I form an opinion on this issue.

I am sure denizen Gordon could solve Sweden's problems by developing a rape-o-meter and uncrossing his fingers.
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Reply #92 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 3:51pm
 
Unforgiven wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 3:01pm:
I am awaiting an expert opinion from Ozpolitic rape specialist Gordon before I form an opinion on this issue.

I am sure denizen Gordon could solve Sweden's problems by developing a rape-o-meter and uncrossing his fingers.



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He's just looking for his Crocs.

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Reply #93 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 5:38pm
 
rhino wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 2:00pm:
Auggie wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 1:09pm:
Greggy has provided strong evidence for an increase in rapes in Sweden (which I didn’t even know).

Rhino, cods, time to own up and admit your wrong.
your comprehension abilities are lacking, I didnt argue otherwise. Pecca got owned immediately when he stated demographics of offenders are not recorded and has been deflecting since. You appear quite gullible.


They’re not recorded so how do you know?

You don’t.

Greg has provided evidence which seems reasonable to me, not to mention that more women are coming out now. Makes total sense.
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Re: Swedish authorities can't cope with growth in rape
Reply #94 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 6:47pm
 
cods wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 8:48am:
The definition of 'rape' has been broadened.

That's the most likely reason for the increase in reported "rapes".

There is zero evidence to suggest anything else.



really?.....has Sweden  taken on a whole new thought process  I havent heard of....... Roll Eyes




Yes, really.

Scroll back and you'll see all the facts I've posted.

Or, if you ask nicely, I'll post them again for you.

The fact is, Sweden (and many other countries) have broadened the definition of rape.

This means that things that weren't "rape" before, are now.

So, there's no surprise that the number of reported "rapes" has risen.

Moreover, Swedish police don't record the religion of rapists when they are arrested or convicted, so there's no reliable way of knowing what religion the perpetrators are.

Is this making sense to you now?

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Reply #95 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 7:32pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 8:36am:
Setanta wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 9:26pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 9:13pm:
Auggie wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 9:07pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 8:37pm:
Setanta wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 7:33pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 1:02pm:
Has anyone found the official stats showing the nationality of all rapists?

Has anyone found the official stats showing the religion of all rapists?

Has anyone come up with an explanation as to why the broadening of the definition of 'rape' in Sweden (now including crimes that weren't considered rape before) wouldn't be a reasonable explanation for the rise in reported 'rapes'?

No?

Just as I suspected.


Why do you have to show the nationality of ALL? It's not a nationality thing, it's a cultural thing. The cultures of the ME and north Africa based on Islam.

Why do you have to know the religion of ALL the rapists if they are from a particular cultural group that is predominantly Islamic?


The right wing nut jobs on here are blaming the rapes on Middle Easterners and Muslims.

However, the police stats don't record nationality and/or religion.

Capiche?



Do you think they should??

Capisce?? A 'sc' is a 'sh' sound in English.


No.



Can you explain why? If Sweden lets in a bunch of people from "closely related by religion cultures" and their rapes go up, you as a thinking person would say that letting in the other culture causes Swede men to rape Swede women before the refugees get to pass on their superior genes. It's the only sane reason for the increase.


The definition of 'rape' has been broadened.

That's the most likely reason for the increase in reported "rapes".

There is zero evidence to suggest anything else.



So the definition of rape being broadened just happened to coincide with mass immigration from the ME and north Africa? Well ain't that racist Greg, were they planning to lock them up even before they arrived, it's a conspiracy! Their definition has been broad for quite some time. The rise in sexual assault crimes are either due to the immigrants doing it or the locals doing it before the immigrants can. Pick a box.
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Re: Swedish authorities can't cope with growth in rape
Reply #96 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 7:35pm
 
Setanta wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 7:32pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 8:36am:
Setanta wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 9:26pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 9:13pm:
Auggie wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 9:07pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 8:37pm:
Setanta wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 7:33pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 1:02pm:
Has anyone found the official stats showing the nationality of all rapists?

Has anyone found the official stats showing the religion of all rapists?

Has anyone come up with an explanation as to why the broadening of the definition of 'rape' in Sweden (now including crimes that weren't considered rape before) wouldn't be a reasonable explanation for the rise in reported 'rapes'?

No?

Just as I suspected.


Why do you have to show the nationality of ALL? It's not a nationality thing, it's a cultural thing. The cultures of the ME and north Africa based on Islam.

Why do you have to know the religion of ALL the rapists if they are from a particular cultural group that is predominantly Islamic?


The right wing nut jobs on here are blaming the rapes on Middle Easterners and Muslims.

However, the police stats don't record nationality and/or religion.

Capiche?



Do you think they should??

Capisce?? A 'sc' is a 'sh' sound in English.


No.



Can you explain why? If Sweden lets in a bunch of people from "closely related by religion cultures" and their rapes go up, you as a thinking person would say that letting in the other culture causes Swede men to rape Swede women before the refugees get to pass on their superior genes. It's the only sane reason for the increase.


The definition of 'rape' has been broadened.

That's the most likely reason for the increase in reported "rapes".

There is zero evidence to suggest anything else.



So the definition of rape being broadened just happened to coincide with mass immigration from the ME and north Africa? Well ain't that racist Greg, were they planning to lock them up even before they arrived, it's a conspiracy! Their definition has been broad for quite some time. The rise in sexual assault crimes are either due to the immigrants doing it or the locals doing it before the immigrants can. Pick a box.


As usual, you're wrong.

Like, so very wrong.

The definition has been broadening over many years.

In fact, it was broadened even more in May this year.

However, if you have any evidence that shows immigrants are responsible for the increase in reported "rapes", please post it.

This should be good, folks.
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Re: Swedish authorities can't cope with growth in rape
Reply #97 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 7:41pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 7:35pm:
Setanta wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 7:32pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 8:36am:
Setanta wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 9:26pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 9:13pm:
Auggie wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 9:07pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 8:37pm:
Setanta wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 7:33pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 1:02pm:
Has anyone found the official stats showing the nationality of all rapists?

Has anyone found the official stats showing the religion of all rapists?

Has anyone come up with an explanation as to why the broadening of the definition of 'rape' in Sweden (now including crimes that weren't considered rape before) wouldn't be a reasonable explanation for the rise in reported 'rapes'?

No?

Just as I suspected.


Why do you have to show the nationality of ALL? It's not a nationality thing, it's a cultural thing. The cultures of the ME and north Africa based on Islam.

Why do you have to know the religion of ALL the rapists if they are from a particular cultural group that is predominantly Islamic?


The right wing nut jobs on here are blaming the rapes on Middle Easterners and Muslims.

However, the police stats don't record nationality and/or religion.

Capiche?



Do you think they should??

Capisce?? A 'sc' is a 'sh' sound in English.


No.



Can you explain why? If Sweden lets in a bunch of people from "closely related by religion cultures" and their rapes go up, you as a thinking person would say that letting in the other culture causes Swede men to rape Swede women before the refugees get to pass on their superior genes. It's the only sane reason for the increase.


The definition of 'rape' has been broadened.

That's the most likely reason for the increase in reported "rapes".

There is zero evidence to suggest anything else.



So the definition of rape being broadened just happened to coincide with mass immigration from the ME and north Africa? Well ain't that racist Greg, were they planning to lock them up even before they arrived, it's a conspiracy! Their definition has been broad for quite some time. The rise in sexual assault crimes are either due to the immigrants doing it or the locals doing it before the immigrants can. Pick a box.


As usual, you're wrong.

Like, so very wrong.

The definition has been broadening over many years.

In fact, it was broadened even more in May this year.

However, if you have any evidence that shows immigrants are responsible for the increase in reported "rapes", please post it.

This should be good, folks.


Not wrong at all Greg, all the changes you have posted were well before the mass immigration of the last few years. Are you saying it's just a coincidence that the rise in reporting comes at the same time as the mass immigration? Hmm?

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Reply #98 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 7:42pm
 
Setanta wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 7:41pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 7:35pm:
Setanta wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 7:32pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 8:36am:
Setanta wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 9:26pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 9:13pm:
Auggie wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 9:07pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 8:37pm:
Setanta wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 7:33pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 1:02pm:
Has anyone found the official stats showing the nationality of all rapists?

Has anyone found the official stats showing the religion of all rapists?

Has anyone come up with an explanation as to why the broadening of the definition of 'rape' in Sweden (now including crimes that weren't considered rape before) wouldn't be a reasonable explanation for the rise in reported 'rapes'?

No?

Just as I suspected.


Why do you have to show the nationality of ALL? It's not a nationality thing, it's a cultural thing. The cultures of the ME and north Africa based on Islam.

Why do you have to know the religion of ALL the rapists if they are from a particular cultural group that is predominantly Islamic?


The right wing nut jobs on here are blaming the rapes on Middle Easterners and Muslims.

However, the police stats don't record nationality and/or religion.

Capiche?



Do you think they should??

Capisce?? A 'sc' is a 'sh' sound in English.


No.



Can you explain why? If Sweden lets in a bunch of people from "closely related by religion cultures" and their rapes go up, you as a thinking person would say that letting in the other culture causes Swede men to rape Swede women before the refugees get to pass on their superior genes. It's the only sane reason for the increase.


The definition of 'rape' has been broadened.

That's the most likely reason for the increase in reported "rapes".

There is zero evidence to suggest anything else.



So the definition of rape being broadened just happened to coincide with mass immigration from the ME and north Africa? Well ain't that racist Greg, were they planning to lock them up even before they arrived, it's a conspiracy! Their definition has been broad for quite some time. The rise in sexual assault crimes are either due to the immigrants doing it or the locals doing it before the immigrants can. Pick a box.


As usual, you're wrong.

Like, so very wrong.

The definition has been broadening over many years.

In fact, it was broadened even more in May this year.

However, if you have any evidence that shows immigrants are responsible for the increase in reported "rapes", please post it.

This should be good, folks.


Not wrong at all Greg, all the changes you have posted were well before the mass immigration of the last few years. Are you saying it's just a coincidence that the rise in reporting comes at the same time as the mass immigration? Hmm?



You couldn't be more wrong.

What part of "May this year" don't you understand?

I'm curious.

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Reply #99 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 7:46pm
 

I wish people would learn to read.

I've posted this at least three times:

"The fact that the definition had been broadened could soon be seen in the rape statistics – the number of reported rapes more than doubled between 2004 and 2009, a year when almost 6,000 cases were reported.

"According to a Crime Survey made by BRÅ, the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention, there were, however, no indications of an increase in the actual number of people who fell victims to sexual crimes between 2005-2008."
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Reply #100 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 7:46pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 7:42pm:
Setanta wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 7:41pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 7:35pm:
Setanta wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 7:32pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 8:36am:
Setanta wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 9:26pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 9:13pm:
Auggie wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 9:07pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 8:37pm:
Setanta wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 7:33pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 1:02pm:
Has anyone found the official stats showing the nationality of all rapists?

Has anyone found the official stats showing the religion of all rapists?

Has anyone come up with an explanation as to why the broadening of the definition of 'rape' in Sweden (now including crimes that weren't considered rape before) wouldn't be a reasonable explanation for the rise in reported 'rapes'?

No?

Just as I suspected.


Why do you have to show the nationality of ALL? It's not a nationality thing, it's a cultural thing. The cultures of the ME and north Africa based on Islam.

Why do you have to know the religion of ALL the rapists if they are from a particular cultural group that is predominantly Islamic?


The right wing nut jobs on here are blaming the rapes on Middle Easterners and Muslims.

However, the police stats don't record nationality and/or religion.

Capiche?



Do you think they should??

Capisce?? A 'sc' is a 'sh' sound in English.


No.



Can you explain why? If Sweden lets in a bunch of people from "closely related by religion cultures" and their rapes go up, you as a thinking person would say that letting in the other culture causes Swede men to rape Swede women before the refugees get to pass on their superior genes. It's the only sane reason for the increase.


The definition of 'rape' has been broadened.

That's the most likely reason for the increase in reported "rapes".

There is zero evidence to suggest anything else.



So the definition of rape being broadened just happened to coincide with mass immigration from the ME and north Africa? Well ain't that racist Greg, were they planning to lock them up even before they arrived, it's a conspiracy! Their definition has been broad for quite some time. The rise in sexual assault crimes are either due to the immigrants doing it or the locals doing it before the immigrants can. Pick a box.


As usual, you're wrong.

Like, so very wrong.

The definition has been broadening over many years.

In fact, it was broadened even more in May this year.

However, if you have any evidence that shows immigrants are responsible for the increase in reported "rapes", please post it.

This should be good, folks.


Not wrong at all Greg, all the changes you have posted were well before the mass immigration of the last few years. Are you saying it's just a coincidence that the rise in reporting comes at the same time as the mass immigration? Hmm?



You couldn't be more wrong.

What part of "May this year" don't you understand?

I'm curious.



What part of May this year escapes you when the rape statistics go well beyond a few months ago? They go back to the mass immigration, not to May.
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Re: Swedish authorities can't cope with growth in rape
Reply #101 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 7:56pm
 
Setanta wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 7:46pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 7:42pm:
Setanta wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 7:41pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 7:35pm:
Setanta wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 7:32pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 8:36am:
Setanta wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 9:26pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 9:13pm:
Auggie wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 9:07pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 8:37pm:
Setanta wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 7:33pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 1:02pm:
Has anyone found the official stats showing the nationality of all rapists?

Has anyone found the official stats showing the religion of all rapists?

Has anyone come up with an explanation as to why the broadening of the definition of 'rape' in Sweden (now including crimes that weren't considered rape before) wouldn't be a reasonable explanation for the rise in reported 'rapes'?

No?

Just as I suspected.


Why do you have to show the nationality of ALL? It's not a nationality thing, it's a cultural thing. The cultures of the ME and north Africa based on Islam.

Why do you have to know the religion of ALL the rapists if they are from a particular cultural group that is predominantly Islamic?


The right wing nut jobs on here are blaming the rapes on Middle Easterners and Muslims.

However, the police stats don't record nationality and/or religion.

Capiche?



Do you think they should??

Capisce?? A 'sc' is a 'sh' sound in English.


No.



Can you explain why? If Sweden lets in a bunch of people from "closely related by religion cultures" and their rapes go up, you as a thinking person would say that letting in the other culture causes Swede men to rape Swede women before the refugees get to pass on their superior genes. It's the only sane reason for the increase.


The definition of 'rape' has been broadened.

That's the most likely reason for the increase in reported "rapes".

There is zero evidence to suggest anything else.



So the definition of rape being broadened just happened to coincide with mass immigration from the ME and north Africa? Well ain't that racist Greg, were they planning to lock them up even before they arrived, it's a conspiracy! Their definition has been broad for quite some time. The rise in sexual assault crimes are either due to the immigrants doing it or the locals doing it before the immigrants can. Pick a box.


As usual, you're wrong.

Like, so very wrong.

The definition has been broadening over many years.

In fact, it was broadened even more in May this year.

However, if you have any evidence that shows immigrants are responsible for the increase in reported "rapes", please post it.

This should be good, folks.


Not wrong at all Greg, all the changes you have posted were well before the mass immigration of the last few years. Are you saying it's just a coincidence that the rise in reporting comes at the same time as the mass immigration? Hmm?



You couldn't be more wrong.

What part of "May this year" don't you understand?

I'm curious.



What part of May this year escapes you when the rape statistics go well beyond a few months ago? They go back to the mass immigration, not to May.


It's like talking to a child with you, Set.

Have a good evening.

I'm in no mood for your childish nonsense.

I've proven beyond all reasonable doubt that the broadening of the term "rape" is the main reason the number of reported "rapes" has risen (almost everybody has acknowledged this).

Your irrational hatred of foreigners just won't let you accept that fact, though.

You're a lost cause.

It saddens me.  It really does.


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Re: Swedish authorities can't cope with growth in rape
Reply #102 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 8:08pm
 
Gang  violence and murder had also increased.

Maybe the legal definition for those has changed too.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-27/rape-case-surge-puts-focus-on...
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Reply #103 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 8:14pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 7:56pm:
Setanta wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 7:46pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 7:42pm:
Setanta wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 7:41pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 7:35pm:
Setanta wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 7:32pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 8:36am:
Setanta wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 9:26pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 9:13pm:
Auggie wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 9:07pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 8:37pm:
Setanta wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 7:33pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 1:02pm:
Has anyone found the official stats showing the nationality of all rapists?

Has anyone found the official stats showing the religion of all rapists?

Has anyone come up with an explanation as to why the broadening of the definition of 'rape' in Sweden (now including crimes that weren't considered rape before) wouldn't be a reasonable explanation for the rise in reported 'rapes'?

No?

Just as I suspected.


Why do you have to show the nationality of ALL? It's not a nationality thing, it's a cultural thing. The cultures of the ME and north Africa based on Islam.

Why do you have to know the religion of ALL the rapists if they are from a particular cultural group that is predominantly Islamic?


The right wing nut jobs on here are blaming the rapes on Middle Easterners and Muslims.

However, the police stats don't record nationality and/or religion.

Capiche?



Do you think they should??

Capisce?? A 'sc' is a 'sh' sound in English.


No.



Can you explain why? If Sweden lets in a bunch of people from "closely related by religion cultures" and their rapes go up, you as a thinking person would say that letting in the other culture causes Swede men to rape Swede women before the refugees get to pass on their superior genes. It's the only sane reason for the increase.


The definition of 'rape' has been broadened.

That's the most likely reason for the increase in reported "rapes".

There is zero evidence to suggest anything else.



So the definition of rape being broadened just happened to coincide with mass immigration from the ME and north Africa? Well ain't that racist Greg, were they planning to lock them up even before they arrived, it's a conspiracy! Their definition has been broad for quite some time. The rise in sexual assault crimes are either due to the immigrants doing it or the locals doing it before the immigrants can. Pick a box.


As usual, you're wrong.

Like, so very wrong.

The definition has been broadening over many years.

In fact, it was broadened even more in May this year.

However, if you have any evidence that shows immigrants are responsible for the increase in reported "rapes", please post it.

This should be good, folks.


Not wrong at all Greg, all the changes you have posted were well before the mass immigration of the last few years. Are you saying it's just a coincidence that the rise in reporting comes at the same time as the mass immigration? Hmm?



You couldn't be more wrong.

What part of "May this year" don't you understand?

I'm curious.



What part of May this year escapes you when the rape statistics go well beyond a few months ago? They go back to the mass immigration, not to May.


It's like talking to a child with you, Set.

Have a good evening.

I'm in no mood for your childish nonsense.

I've proven beyond all reasonable doubt that the broadening of the term "rape" is the main reason the number of reported "rapes" has risen (almost everybody has acknowledged this).

Your irrational hatred of foreigners just won't let you accept that fact, though.

You're a lost cause.

It saddens me.  It really does.


Choosing to retire? Is that a white flag? You have not proven anything. The rape statistics go beyond your May broadening of definitions, it's as simple as that. As for hating foreigners, as of today I have another foreigner in my family, my middle son was married today to a Chinese girl and I have no problem with that at all. As you know youngest son is married to a Nip and they live with us. Good try though, when you have nothing left in your debating arsenal, attack the man.


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Re: Swedish authorities can't cope with growth in rape
Reply #104 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 8:18pm
 
Anyway,  this settles it

According to the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention (BRA), one explanation is that the legal definition of rape has been expanded. There’s also an increased willingness to report rape. Still, it’s hard to fully explain the increase, according to Nina Forselius, a researcher at BRA, who added that there was no clear “#MeToo-effect” in last year’s data
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