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Re: Swedish authorities can't cope with growth in rape
Reply #60 - Aug 9th, 2018 at 9:03pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 8:51pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 8:47pm:
Setanta wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 8:39pm:
Perhaps Bobby did not read the post where you said you had a beard and was just giving you heads up on cat tom meat.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5193601/Preacher-says-men-without-beards...



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Reply #61 - Aug 9th, 2018 at 9:07pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 8:37pm:
Setanta wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 7:33pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 1:02pm:
Has anyone found the official stats showing the nationality of all rapists?

Has anyone found the official stats showing the religion of all rapists?

Has anyone come up with an explanation as to why the broadening of the definition of 'rape' in Sweden (now including crimes that weren't considered rape before) wouldn't be a reasonable explanation for the rise in reported 'rapes'?

No?

Just as I suspected.


Why do you have to show the nationality of ALL? It's not a nationality thing, it's a cultural thing. The cultures of the ME and north Africa based on Islam.

Why do you have to know the religion of ALL the rapists if they are from a particular cultural group that is predominantly Islamic?


The right wing nut jobs on here are blaming the rapes on Middle Easterners and Muslims.

However, the police stats don't record nationality and/or religion.

Capiche?



Do you think they should??

Capisce?? A 'sc' is a 'sh' sound in English.
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Re: Swedish authorities can't cope with growth in rape
Reply #62 - Aug 9th, 2018 at 9:13pm
 
Auggie wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 9:07pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 8:37pm:
Setanta wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 7:33pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 1:02pm:
Has anyone found the official stats showing the nationality of all rapists?

Has anyone found the official stats showing the religion of all rapists?

Has anyone come up with an explanation as to why the broadening of the definition of 'rape' in Sweden (now including crimes that weren't considered rape before) wouldn't be a reasonable explanation for the rise in reported 'rapes'?

No?

Just as I suspected.


Why do you have to show the nationality of ALL? It's not a nationality thing, it's a cultural thing. The cultures of the ME and north Africa based on Islam.

Why do you have to know the religion of ALL the rapists if they are from a particular cultural group that is predominantly Islamic?


The right wing nut jobs on here are blaming the rapes on Middle Easterners and Muslims.

However, the police stats don't record nationality and/or religion.

Capiche?



Do you think they should??

Capisce?? A 'sc' is a 'sh' sound in English.


No.

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Re: Swedish authorities can't cope with growth in rape
Reply #63 - Aug 9th, 2018 at 9:26pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 9:13pm:
Auggie wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 9:07pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 8:37pm:
Setanta wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 7:33pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 1:02pm:
Has anyone found the official stats showing the nationality of all rapists?

Has anyone found the official stats showing the religion of all rapists?

Has anyone come up with an explanation as to why the broadening of the definition of 'rape' in Sweden (now including crimes that weren't considered rape before) wouldn't be a reasonable explanation for the rise in reported 'rapes'?

No?

Just as I suspected.


Why do you have to show the nationality of ALL? It's not a nationality thing, it's a cultural thing. The cultures of the ME and north Africa based on Islam.

Why do you have to know the religion of ALL the rapists if they are from a particular cultural group that is predominantly Islamic?


The right wing nut jobs on here are blaming the rapes on Middle Easterners and Muslims.

However, the police stats don't record nationality and/or religion.

Capiche?



Do you think they should??

Capisce?? A 'sc' is a 'sh' sound in English.


No.



Can you explain why? If Sweden lets in a bunch of people from "closely related by religion cultures" and their rapes go up, you as a thinking person would say that letting in the other culture causes Swede men to rape Swede women before the refugees get to pass on their superior genes. It's the only sane reason for the increase.
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Reply #64 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 8:36am
 
Setanta wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 9:26pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 9:13pm:
Auggie wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 9:07pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 8:37pm:
Setanta wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 7:33pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 1:02pm:
Has anyone found the official stats showing the nationality of all rapists?

Has anyone found the official stats showing the religion of all rapists?

Has anyone come up with an explanation as to why the broadening of the definition of 'rape' in Sweden (now including crimes that weren't considered rape before) wouldn't be a reasonable explanation for the rise in reported 'rapes'?

No?

Just as I suspected.


Why do you have to show the nationality of ALL? It's not a nationality thing, it's a cultural thing. The cultures of the ME and north Africa based on Islam.

Why do you have to know the religion of ALL the rapists if they are from a particular cultural group that is predominantly Islamic?


The right wing nut jobs on here are blaming the rapes on Middle Easterners and Muslims.

However, the police stats don't record nationality and/or religion.

Capiche?



Do you think they should??

Capisce?? A 'sc' is a 'sh' sound in English.


No.



Can you explain why? If Sweden lets in a bunch of people from "closely related by religion cultures" and their rapes go up, you as a thinking person would say that letting in the other culture causes Swede men to rape Swede women before the refugees get to pass on their superior genes. It's the only sane reason for the increase.


The definition of 'rape' has been broadened.

That's the most likely reason for the increase in reported "rapes".

There is zero evidence to suggest anything else.

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Reply #65 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 8:48am
 
The definition of 'rape' has been broadened.

That's the most likely reason for the increase in reported "rapes".

There is zero evidence to suggest anything else.



really?.....has Sweden  taken on a whole new thought process  I havent heard of....... Roll Eyes


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Reply #66 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 9:58am
 
cods wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 8:48am:
The definition of 'rape' has been broadened.

That's the most likely reason for the increase in reported "rapes".

There is zero evidence to suggest anything else.



really?.....has Sweden  taken on a whole new thought process  I havent heard of....... Roll Eyes




Yes, really.

They've broadened the definition of rape in Sweden.

The term "rape" now includes offences that were never considered "rape" in the past.

This goes a long way to explaining the rise in reported "rapes".

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Reply #67 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 9:58am
 
cods wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 8:48am:
The definition of 'rape' has been broadened.

That's the most likely reason for the increase in reported "rapes".

There is zero evidence to suggest anything else.



really?.....has Sweden  taken on a whole new thought process  I havent heard of....... Roll Eyes




The definition of rape has also been broadened in Australia, cods.
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Reply #68 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 10:02am
 
cods wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 8:48am:
The definition of 'rape' has been broadened.

That's the most likely reason for the increase in reported "rapes".

There is zero evidence to suggest anything else.



really?.....has Sweden  taken on a whole new thought process  I havent heard of....... Roll Eyes




"Sweden has a broader definition of rape than some of its European neighbors. Until recently in Germany, for example, the victim having said no to a sexual act was not always enough to meet the legal definition of rape.

"Kristine Eck, a researcher at Uppsala University, argued in a February 2017 Washington Post op-ed that because Sweden is particularly thorough in recording and publicly reporting crime, it may lead to the false impression that crime is higher there than elsewhere.

"There is simply no data to show that Sweden is the rape capital of Europe, or even that rape is on the rise in the country."
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Re: Swedish authorities can't cope with growth in rape
Reply #69 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 10:07am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 9:58am:
cods wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 8:48am:
The definition of 'rape' has been broadened.

That's the most likely reason for the increase in reported "rapes".

There is zero evidence to suggest anything else.



really?.....has Sweden  taken on a whole new thought process  I havent heard of....... Roll Eyes




Yes, really.

They've broadened the definition of rape in Sweden.

The term "rape" now includes offences that were never considered "rape" in the past.

This goes a long way to explaining the rise in reported "rapes".



"In 2005, the definition of rape in the Swedish Sexual Crimes Act was broadened to include, for instance, having sex with someone who is asleep, or someone who could be considered to be in a “helpless state”. This applies to situations when someone would not be capable of saying “no”. A typical situation where the law could be applied is if someone who is drunk at a party falls asleep only to wake up and realize that someone is having sex with them.

"That would constitute rape according to the 2005 law, and not “sexual abuse”, which was the case before the law was amended. In this respect the new law did not criminalize behaviour that previously had been legal, but rather broadened the definition of what constitutes rape to include a larger number of sexual crimes.

"The fact that the definition had been broadened could soon be seen in the rape statistics – the number of reported rapes more than doubled between 2004 and 2009, a year when almost 6,000 cases were reported. According to a Crime Survey made by BRĹ, the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention, there were, however, no indications of an increase in the actual number of people who fell victims to sexual crimes between 2005-2008."


Rape, As Sweden Redefines It
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Reply #70 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 11:22am
 
Just like any other 1st world country the ethnicity and other demographics of offenders is recorded. Just not publically disclosed, just like the Victorian coppers when they tried to cover up the fact that Afican immigrants were driving a surge in violent crime.
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But what’s striking about Sweden is how defensive policymakers are when confronted about all this; how insistent they are that things are under control. As the violence affects just a sliver of society, the overall Swedish crime figures are quite small. Trouble can be buried in the data. Wider discussion about all of this is also discouraged by what’s known as Sweden’s “opinion corridor”, the narrow parameters into which public debate is confined. Those who step outside, and talk about the immigration problems, risk being accused of bigotry. Or, perhaps worse, giving succour to the populist Sweden Democrats, now supported by one in six Swedes.m

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/23/wont-admit-stockholm-donald-trump-ri...
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Reply #71 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 11:26am
 
rhino wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 11:22am:
Just like any other 1st world country the ethnicity and other demographics of offenders is recorded. Just not publically disclosed, just like the Victorian coppers when they tried to cover up the fact that Afican immigrants were driving a surge in violent crime.
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But what’s striking about Sweden is how defensive policymakers are when confronted about all this; how insistent they are that things are under control. As the violence affects just a sliver of society, the overall Swedish crime figures are quite small. Trouble can be buried in the data. Wider discussion about all of this is also discouraged by what’s known as Sweden’s “opinion corridor”, the narrow parameters into which public debate is confined. Those who step outside, and talk about the immigration problems, risk being accused of bigotry. Or, perhaps worse, giving succour to the populist Sweden Democrats, now supported by one in six Swedes.m

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/23/wont-admit-stockholm-donald-trump-ri...


No, they're not.

No ethnicity.  No religion.
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Reply #72 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 11:26am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 9:58am:
cods wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 8:48am:
The definition of 'rape' has been broadened.

That's the most likely reason for the increase in reported "rapes".

There is zero evidence to suggest anything else.



really?.....has Sweden  taken on a whole new thought process  I havent heard of....... Roll Eyes




Yes, really.

They've broadened the definition of rape in Sweden.

The term "rape" now includes offences that were never considered "rape" in the past.

This goes a long way to explaining the rise in reported "rapes".



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Reply #73 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 11:28am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 11:26am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 9:58am:
cods wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 8:48am:
The definition of 'rape' has been broadened.

That's the most likely reason for the increase in reported "rapes".

There is zero evidence to suggest anything else.



really?.....has Sweden  taken on a whole new thought process  I havent heard of....... Roll Eyes




Yes, really.

They've broadened the definition of rape in Sweden.

The term "rape" now includes offences that were never considered "rape" in the past.

This goes a long way to explaining the rise in reported "rapes".



get serious will you Cheesy LOL


Can you read?

"In 2005, the definition of rape in the Swedish Sexual Crimes Act was broadened to include, for instance, having sex with someone who is asleep, or someone who could be considered to be in a “helpless state”. This applies to situations when someone would not be capable of saying “no”. A typical situation where the law could be applied is if someone who is drunk at a party falls asleep only to wake up and realize that someone is having sex with them.

"That would constitute rape according to the 2005 law, and not “sexual abuse”, which was the case before the law was amended. In this respect the new law did not criminalize behaviour that previously had been legal, but rather broadened the definition of what constitutes rape to include a larger number of sexual crimes.

"The fact that the definition had been broadened could soon be seen in the rape statistics – the number of reported rapes more than doubled between 2004 and 2009, a year when almost 6,000 cases were reported. According to a Crime Survey made by BRĹ, the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention, there were, however, no indications of an increase in the actual number of people who fell victims to sexual crimes between 2005-2008."

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Reply #74 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 11:30am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 11:26am:
rhino wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 11:22am:
Just like any other 1st world country the ethnicity and other demographics of offenders is recorded. Just not publically disclosed, just like the Victorian coppers when they tried to cover up the fact that Afican immigrants were driving a surge in violent crime.
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But what’s striking about Sweden is how defensive policymakers are when confronted about all this; how insistent they are that things are under control. As the violence affects just a sliver of society, the overall Swedish crime figures are quite small. Trouble can be buried in the data. Wider discussion about all of this is also discouraged by what’s known as Sweden’s “opinion corridor”, the narrow parameters into which public debate is confined. Those who step outside, and talk about the immigration problems, risk being accused of bigotry. Or, perhaps worse, giving succour to the populist Sweden Democrats, now supported by one in six Swedes.m

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/23/wont-admit-stockholm-donald-trump-ri...


No, they're not.

All law  enforcement authorities routinely record demographics of offenders, its necassary to know exactly who you have in custody. Its not in dispute. You really are laughable when you argue against this stuff. Again you have been owned on my first post of the day.
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