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Reply #105 - Aug 13th, 2018 at 7:26pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 13th, 2018 at 1:45pm:
"We believe Australia has the right to choose the number and mix of migrants to ensure immigration is in the national interest of existing citizens because the interests of existing citizens come first."

"... we believe immigration from Islamic Countries should be limited."


Again: nothing about halting immigration.

Do yourself a favour and read their polices, before you make a similar mistake.

https://www.onenation.org.au/policies/

No race is mentioned there clowns, but still you choose to be selective in what you post and lie about it as well.
Why didn't you post the whole lot Gweggy....  wassup, doesn't fit with your lies and slander?

You never posted Zero net migration either gweggy....  oh dear, because that is still part of their current policy even if you chose to ignore it.
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Reply #106 - Aug 13th, 2018 at 7:29pm
 
Grendel wrote on Aug 13th, 2018 at 7:26pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 13th, 2018 at 1:45pm:
"We believe Australia has the right to choose the number and mix of migrants to ensure immigration is in the national interest of existing citizens because the interests of existing citizens come first."

"... we believe immigration from Islamic Countries should be limited."


Again: nothing about halting immigration.

Do yourself a favour and read their polices, before you make a similar mistake.

https://www.onenation.org.au/policies/

No race is mentioned there clowns, but still you choose to be selective in what you post and lie about it as well.
Why didn't you post the whole lot Gweggy....  wassup, doesn't fit with your lies and slander?

You never posted Zero net migration either gweggy....  oh dear, because that is still part of their current policy even if you chose to ignore it.


I never mentioned race.

From One Nation:

"we believe in zero net migration. By this, we mean that we will adjust the immigration intake so that it leads to a healthy population profile after natural births and deaths are taken into account."

No mention of "no increase".

Why did you lie?

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Reply #107 - Aug 13th, 2018 at 7:31pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 13th, 2018 at 7:29pm:
Grendel wrote on Aug 13th, 2018 at 7:26pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 13th, 2018 at 1:45pm:
"We believe Australia has the right to choose the number and mix of migrants to ensure immigration is in the national interest of existing citizens because the interests of existing citizens come first."

"... we believe immigration from Islamic Countries should be limited."


Again: nothing about halting immigration.

Do yourself a favour and read their polices, before you make a similar mistake.

https://www.onenation.org.au/policies/

No race is mentioned there clowns, but still you choose to be selective in what you post and lie about it as well.
Why didn't you post the whole lot Gweggy....  wassup, doesn't fit with your lies and slander?

You never posted Zero net migration either gweggy....  oh dear, because that is still part of their current policy even if you chose to ignore it.


I never mentioned race.

From One Nation:

"we believe in zero net migration. By this, we mean that we will adjust the immigration intake so that it leads to a healthy population profile after natural births and deaths are taken into account."

No mention of "no increase".

Why did you lie?



Oh dear.

"We hope that this brief discussion of the peculiarities associated with zero net migration will contribute to a better understanding of its impact on population growth.

"We cannot assume that zero net migration results in a zero impact on population size.

"On the contrary, and depending on the fertility of the immigrants and the extent of gross migration, zero net migration has a rather strong upward impact on population size."


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Reply #108 - Aug 13th, 2018 at 7:34pm
 

No mention of halting migration:

One Nation recognize the invaluable contribution of overseas-born Australians, who have enriched our culture, committed to our values, our law, our political institutions and the equality of the sexes.

The contribution of migrants and their families to Australia is undeniable when migrants come to embrace our way of life and not to change it.

We support English as Australia’s official language because it’s a unifying force and advances migrant communities as well as Australia’s interests.

We recognize the value of heritage languages and we encourage their preservation.

We believe Australia has the right to choose the number and mix of migrants to ensure immigration is in the national interest of existing citizens because the interests of existing citizens come first.

Our Constitution prevents us from asking the religion of those who seek to migrate to Australia, but equally, we cannot ignore first, second and third generation migrants who violently reject Australia’s democratic values and institutions in the name of Islam.

Until we can find a solution to this problem we believe immigration from Islamic Countries should be limited.

We believe immigration numbers have been too high in the past. Over 60% of our population growth in the past decade has come from immigration and we see high rates of immigration as the source of other problems including unaffordable housing. We believe any growth in population needs to be planned ahead so that infrastructure including water, electricity, hospitals, schools, and public transport are available to respond to an increased population.

When we look at countries with high standards of living we find they have relatively small populations and that the population number is in harmony with the natural carrying capacity of the country.

We live in the most arid continent in the world with a fragile ecosystem and on this basis, we believe in zero net migration. By this, we mean that we will adjust the immigration intake so that it leads to a healthy population profile after natural births and deaths are taken into account.

We believe the best population growth comes from Australian citizens having children. We want Australians to have the number of children they can afford to look after but we also want to reduce the barriers for Australians to have children, including lowering the cost of housing which will follow if immigration numbers are reduced.

We believe Government has for too long relied on population growth to overcome weak economic policies. We will consult Australians at the time of each federal election on whether they think the immigration numbers are too high, about right or too low and we will respond to that information in setting the annual intake of migrants.

We know that over 80% of new migrants live in Capital cities and are highly concentrated in particular postcodes. We believe it is time to set aside a number of migration visas to build up the regional centers of Australia where it is appropriate and where work is available.
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Reply #109 - Aug 13th, 2018 at 7:38pm
 
Direct from the horse's mouth and the actual policy i was quoting...

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POLICY CONCLUSIONS

*To aim for population stability in Australia, the immigration intake will be restricted to zero net migration,
that is, immigration numbers will replace the number of persons permanently leaving Australia each year.


Rabbit on all you like, twist meanings, move goalposts create strawmen, lie etc, etc, etc....

This is what the ZNM policy by PHON meant and still means.
Population will still go up naturally due to births and down due to deaths, but immigration will be a ZERO sum dummy. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #110 - Aug 13th, 2018 at 7:40pm
 
Grendel wrote on Aug 13th, 2018 at 7:38pm:
Direct from the horse's mouth and the actual policy i was quoting...

Quote:
POLICY CONCLUSIONS

*To aim for population stability in Australia, the immigration intake will be restricted to zero net migration,
that is, immigration numbers will replace the number of persons permanently leaving Australia each year.


Rabbit on all you like, twist meanings, move goalposts create strawmen, lie etc, etc, etc....

This is what the ZNM policy by PHON meant and still means.
Population will still go up naturally due to births and down due to deaths, but immigration will be a ZERO sum dummy.
Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


This is directly from their policy:

"we believe in zero net migration. By this, we mean that we will adjust the immigration intake so that it leads to a healthy population profile after natural births and deaths are taken into account."

Oh dear.
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Reply #111 - Aug 13th, 2018 at 7:42pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 13th, 2018 at 7:29pm:
Grendel wrote on Aug 13th, 2018 at 7:26pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 13th, 2018 at 1:45pm:
"We believe Australia has the right to choose the number and mix of migrants to ensure immigration is in the national interest of existing citizens because the interests of existing citizens come first."

"... we believe immigration from Islamic Countries should be limited."


Again: nothing about halting immigration.

Do yourself a favour and read their polices, before you make a similar mistake.

https://www.onenation.org.au/policies/

No race is mentioned there clowns, but still you choose to be selective in what you post and lie about it as well.
Why didn't you post the whole lot Gweggy....  wassup, doesn't fit with your lies and slander?

You never posted Zero net migration either gweggy....  oh dear, because that is still part of their current policy even if you chose to ignore it.


I never mentioned race.

From One Nation:

"we believe in zero net migration. By this, we mean that we will adjust the immigration intake so that it leads to a healthy population profile after natural births and deaths are taken into account."

No mention of "no increase".

Why did you lie?


LOL
Why are you so dumb?
We are talking about Immigration numbers dopey.
You know people coming in and people leaving the country. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

BTW bwian quoted you and mentioned it stupid... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
or is it you think of yourself in the plural.... CLOWNS.
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Reply #112 - Aug 13th, 2018 at 8:07pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Aug 13th, 2018 at 7:09pm:
Auggie wrote on Aug 13th, 2018 at 6:56pm:
but we must also put people before numbers, in the case of asylum seekers.



So asylum seekers don't increase the numbers? one more asylum seeker is one more immigrant adding to the population number

Or were you thinking that just a few asylum seekers wouldn't make any difference? 


So, do you think that torturing asylum seekers and/or causing hardship to those people as is the case on Nauru something we should continue?? Why don't we end the suffering of those people first, then talk about how many people we want??
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Reply #113 - Aug 13th, 2018 at 8:33pm
 
Grendel wrote on Aug 13th, 2018 at 7:42pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 13th, 2018 at 7:29pm:
Grendel wrote on Aug 13th, 2018 at 7:26pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 13th, 2018 at 1:45pm:
"We believe Australia has the right to choose the number and mix of migrants to ensure immigration is in the national interest of existing citizens because the interests of existing citizens come first."

"... we believe immigration from Islamic Countries should be limited."


Again: nothing about halting immigration.

Do yourself a favour and read their polices, before you make a similar mistake.

https://www.onenation.org.au/policies/

No race is mentioned there clowns, but still you choose to be selective in what you post and lie about it as well.
Why didn't you post the whole lot Gweggy....  wassup, doesn't fit with your lies and slander?

You never posted Zero net migration either gweggy....  oh dear, because that is still part of their current policy even if you chose to ignore it.


I never mentioned race.

From One Nation:

"we believe in zero net migration. By this, we mean that we will adjust the immigration intake so that it leads to a healthy population profile after natural births and deaths are taken into account."

No mention of "no increase".

Why did you lie?


LOL
Why are you so dumb?
We are talking about Immigration numbers dopey.
You know people coming in and people leaving the country. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

BTW bwian quoted you and mentioned it stupid... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
or is it you think of yourself in the plural.... CLOWNS.


And One Nation do not have a policy of stopping immigration.

So, why did you lie?
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Reply #114 - Aug 13th, 2018 at 9:17pm
 
Unforgiven wrote on Aug 13th, 2018 at 5:39pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Aug 13th, 2018 at 7:24am:
... Holt imigration now. Best for everyone.


"Holt imigration" before the English language becomes unrecognizable and closet poms yabber bigotry?


Spelling nazi hey???


What is a closet pom champ? 
Pom is a discription given to one of english blood, no?
No english blood here but happy to work along side them in building this country into the safe haven it is. As did my father and his father.

You see its this hard work that we "Aussies" put in that gives us the right to say NO to people outside this country and to people that want to come here and bludge or do harm. It also gets a bit annoying when little traitors inside our own camp want to let in potential threats....all to feel warm and fuzzy within themselves while the blood of their own is spilt. After all, them their lovey dovey save everyone families are the ones that fed these people and caused a massive increase in an already bloated, poverty burdened population.
Clap faarrking clap.
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Reply #115 - Aug 13th, 2018 at 9:27pm
 
Auggie wrote on Aug 13th, 2018 at 8:07pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Aug 13th, 2018 at 7:09pm:
Auggie wrote on Aug 13th, 2018 at 6:56pm:
but we must also put people before numbers, in the case of asylum seekers.



So asylum seekers don't increase the numbers? one more asylum seeker is one more immigrant adding to the population number

Or were you thinking that just a few asylum seekers wouldn't make any difference? 


So, do you think that torturing asylum seekers and/or causing hardship to those people as is the case on Nauru something we should continue?? Why don't we end the suffering of those people first, then talk about how many people we want??


Two separate issues. But I'm adamant that immigration should stop until the many issues associated with it are re-hammered out ... or bring it to a mere trickle of immigrants with proven skills and qualifications while the nation has a brand new conversation about immigration. We need to break the Lib Lab hold on the policy, we are currently witnessing how that's going, it's not real good. What happened to that Islander women who killed her nine children in North Queensland? Why was she making sure population numbers didn't rise?

The population number we have now is quite sufficient until we get a few things sorted out, especially in rural localities

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Reply #116 - Aug 13th, 2018 at 9:34pm
 
Captain Caveman wrote on Aug 13th, 2018 at 9:17pm:
Unforgiven wrote on Aug 13th, 2018 at 5:39pm:
Captain Caveman wrote on Aug 13th, 2018 at 7:24am:
... Holt imigration now. Best for everyone.


"Holt imigration" before the English language becomes unrecognizable and closet poms yabber bigotry?


Spelling nazi hey???


What is a closet pom champ? 
Pom is a discription given to one of english blood, no?
No english blood here but happy to work along side them in building this country into the safe haven it is. As did my father and his father.

You see its this hard work that we "Aussies" put in that gives us the right to say NO to people outside this country and to people that want to come here and bludge or do harm. It also gets a bit annoying when little traitors inside our own camp want to let in potential threats....all to feel warm and fuzzy within themselves while the blood of their own is spilt. After all, them their lovey dovey save everyone families are the ones that fed these people and caused a massive increase in an already bloated, poverty burdened population.
Clap faarrking clap.


The sweat pours off your anus and you groan and grimace working hard while your smart-working owners are sipping chardonnay or champagne in airconditioned comfort.

People like you are two bob a truckload.

You are indeed lucky that caves are cheap and roadkill is plentiful, loser.
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Reply #117 - Aug 13th, 2018 at 10:36pm
 
Grendel wrote on Aug 13th, 2018 at 7:38pm:
Direct from the horse's mouth and the actual policy i was quoting...

Quote:
POLICY CONCLUSIONS

*To aim for population stability in Australia, the immigration intake will be restricted to zero net migration,
that is, immigration numbers will replace the number of persons permanently leaving Australia each year.


Rabbit on all you like, twist meanings, move goalposts create strawmen, lie etc, etc, etc....

This is what the ZNM policy by PHON meant and still means.
Population will still go up naturally due to births and down due to deaths, but immigration will be a ZERO sum dummy. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

This is from their ZNM policy I mentioned earlier you doofus, get it....  how many times must i repeat myself.
I posted the information directly from their website.
Not from the site you are using that talks roughly about immigration and rules etc...  this is from the POPULATION POLICY

Not my fault you don't know where to look or the history of the party.
bwian asked for information just on NUMBERS but both of you have broken bwian's rules...  it seems I am the only one who hasn't.
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Reply #118 - Aug 13th, 2018 at 10:43pm
 
I never used the term halting immigration gweggy.
I quoted the post that did.
I replied to that post.
I never said PHON had a policy to halt immigration that was you lying again.
I said it had a Zero Net migration policy, which unless you are a moronic pedant amounts to the same thing.

How many times must that be explained to you.
I even posted the definition from the original policy for you dopey.

Now stop wasting my time TROLL.
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Reply #119 - Aug 13th, 2018 at 10:52pm
 
This is what I said in reply to the "holt imigration" call.

Grendel wrote on Aug 13th, 2018 at 9:00am:
Those of you wanting a halt on immigration better vote for PHON then because they are the only party with such a policy.


Zero Net Migration dummy for all intents and purposes is a halt on IMMIGRATION...

I'll post the PHON defn for you yet again from their original website not the crap one you keep posting from.  But from the one where the policy was first released.

Quote:
POLICY CONCLUSIONS

*To aim for population stability in Australia, the immigration intake will be restricted to zero net migration, that is, immigration numbers will replace the number of persons permanently leaving Australia each year.


One more time for the Uber Dummy Gweggy...  this means that numbers coming in can only equal the numbers going out.   It's a ZERO SUM solution dopey.  Get an adult to explain it to you because I cant be bothered with you anymore TROLL.  There is only so many times a person can repeat themselves to abject stupidity like yours before they give in.

So it goes to show that Immigration numbers will not increase the Australian population therefore for all intents and purposes immigration numbers have been halted YOU FWIT. Cheesy
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