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Re: Far-right protesters 'ransack socialist bookshop
Reply #15 - Aug 7^th, 2018 at 7:16pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7^th, 2018 at 7:10pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7^th, 2018 at 6:59pm:

cods wrote on Aug 7^th, 2018 at 6:23pm:

racist....

if hammer said

why do muslim extremist. [far far left] always resort to violence..

you would be all over him...

I certainly do not condone this..

but how do they know they were far right?? did they claim the assault?...or someone arrested...

its pretty pathetic!!! what ever do they think they will achieve ? Roll Eyes

cods, I can't really get past this: "muslim extremist. [far far left]".

Could you please explain to me why Muslim extremists are far, far left?

Hammer: can you help her out?

We can all agree on this, right:

- Left wing = liberal

- Right wing = conservative

So, do you have any idea why cods might think that Muslim extremists are (very) liberal, as opposed to (very) conservative?

It's got me flummoxed.

It's a evolving description Pecca. Right wing usually means white anti leftists . I wouldn't call muslim terrorists in white countries conservative types. Actually the far right aren't conservative either. They want to bring down the current state of western politics. I can't make sense of any of it actually. It's far more complicated than simple brandings. It's you who is the conservative if anybody is pecca. It's your politics that's in power, not ours . You do well out of the current system.

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Re: Far-right protesters 'ransack socialist bookshop
Reply #16 - Aug 7^th, 2018 at 7:24pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 7^th, 2018 at 7:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7^th, 2018 at 7:10pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7^th, 2018 at 6:59pm:

cods wrote on Aug 7^th, 2018 at 6:23pm:

racist....

if hammer said

why do muslim extremist. [far far left] always resort to violence..

you would be all over him...

I certainly do not condone this..

but how do they know they were far right?? did they claim the assault?...or someone arrested...

its pretty pathetic!!! what ever do they think they will achieve ? Roll Eyes

cods, I can't really get past this: "muslim extremist. [far far left]".

Could you please explain to me why Muslim extremists are far, far left?

Hammer: can you help her out?

We can all agree on this, right:

- Left wing = liberal

- Right wing = conservative

So, do you have any idea why cods might think that Muslim extremists are (very) liberal, as opposed to (very) conservative?

It's got me flummoxed.

It's a evolving description Pecca. Right wing usually means white anti leftists. I wouldn't call muslim terrorists in white countries conservative types. Actually the far right aren't conservative either. They want to bring down the current state of western politics. I can't make sense of any of it actually. It's far more complicated than simple brandings.

Well, I wouldn't necessarily say they're right or left.

It can be argued that there are basically four types of extremists (radical groups):

- Right wing

- Left wing

- Politico Religious

- Single issue

Muslim extremists obviously fall into the 'Politico Religious' category.

However, in the absence of that category, they fit right wing rather than left wing.

Let's look at the left and right's views on gays, for example.

Left: generally support gay marriage; support anti-discrimination laws to protect LGBT against workplace discrimination.

Right: generally opposed to gay marriage; opposed to certain anti-discrimination laws due to certain religious beliefs.

Which one looks like a Muslim extremist's views?

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 57172 Here Gender:	Re: Far-right protesters 'ransack socialist bookshop Reply #17 - Aug 7^th, 2018 at 7:26pm Where is there any problem ?? The right have been burning books for centuries.
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Re: Far-right protesters 'ransack socialist bookshop
Reply #18 - Aug 7^th, 2018 at 7:32pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7^th, 2018 at 7:24pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 7^th, 2018 at 7:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7^th, 2018 at 7:10pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7^th, 2018 at 6:59pm:

cods wrote on Aug 7^th, 2018 at 6:23pm:

racist....

if hammer said

why do muslim extremist. [far far left] always resort to violence..

you would be all over him...

I certainly do not condone this..

but how do they know they were far right?? did they claim the assault?...or someone arrested...

its pretty pathetic!!! what ever do they think they will achieve ? Roll Eyes

cods, I can't really get past this: "muslim extremist. [far far left]".

Could you please explain to me why Muslim extremists are far, far left?

Hammer: can you help her out?

We can all agree on this, right:

- Left wing = liberal

- Right wing = conservative

So, do you have any idea why cods might think that Muslim extremists are (very) liberal, as opposed to (very) conservative?

It's got me flummoxed.

It's a evolving description Pecca. Right wing usually means white anti leftists. I wouldn't call muslim terrorists in white countries conservative types. Actually the far right aren't conservative either. They want to bring down the current state of western politics. I can't make sense of any of it actually. It's far more complicated than simple brandings.

Well, I wouldn't necessarily say they're right or left.

It can be argued that there are basically four types of extremists (radical groups):

- Right wing

- Left wing

- Politico Religious

- Single issue

Muslim extremists obviously fall into the 'Politico Religious' category.

However, in the absence of that category, they fit right wing rather than left wing.

Let's look at the left and right's views on gays, for example.

Left: generally support gay marriage; support anti-discrimination laws to protect LGBT against workplace discrimination.

Right: generally opposed to gay marriage; opposed to certain anti-discrimination laws due to certain religious beliefs.

Which one looks like a Muslim extremist's views?

Even the white supremist movement has opposing factions Pecca. It's probably better not to throw groups into these outdated and questionable categorys. Look at Pauline Hanson for instance. There's nothing conservative about her even though they call her one. All it is is the established system vs groups who oppose it within a country. That's it.

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Re: Far-right protesters 'ransack socialist bookshop
Reply #19 - Aug 7^th, 2018 at 7:34pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 7^th, 2018 at 7:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7^th, 2018 at 7:24pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 7^th, 2018 at 7:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7^th, 2018 at 7:10pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7^th, 2018 at 6:59pm:

cods wrote on Aug 7^th, 2018 at 6:23pm:

racist....

if hammer said

why do muslim extremist. [far far left] always resort to violence..

you would be all over him...

I certainly do not condone this..

but how do they know they were far right?? did they claim the assault?...or someone arrested...

its pretty pathetic!!! what ever do they think they will achieve ? Roll Eyes

cods, I can't really get past this: "muslim extremist. [far far left]".

Could you please explain to me why Muslim extremists are far, far left?

Hammer: can you help her out?

We can all agree on this, right:

- Left wing = liberal

- Right wing = conservative

So, do you have any idea why cods might think that Muslim extremists are (very) liberal, as opposed to (very) conservative?

It's got me flummoxed.

It's a evolving description Pecca. Right wing usually means white anti leftists. I wouldn't call muslim terrorists in white countries conservative types. Actually the far right aren't conservative either. They want to bring down the current state of western politics. I can't make sense of any of it actually. It's far more complicated than simple brandings.

Well, I wouldn't necessarily say they're right or left.

It can be argued that there are basically four types of extremists (radical groups):

- Right wing

- Left wing

- Politico Religious

- Single issue

Muslim extremists obviously fall into the 'Politico Religious' category.

However, in the absence of that category, they fit right wing rather than left wing.

Let's look at the left and right's views on gays, for example.

Left: generally support gay marriage; support anti-discrimination laws to protect LGBT against workplace discrimination.

Right: generally opposed to gay marriage; opposed to certain anti-discrimination laws due to certain religious beliefs.

Which one looks like a Muslim extremist's views?

Even the white supremist movement has opposing factions Pecca. It's probably better not to throw groups into these outdated and questionable categorys. Look at Pauline Hanson for instance. There's nothing conservative about her even though they call her one. All it is is the established system vs groups who oppose it within a country. That's it.

You can't be serious?

Nothing conservative about Hanson?

Tell me you didn't just say that.

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Re: Far-right protesters 'ransack socialist bookshop
Reply #20 - Aug 7^th, 2018 at 7:41pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7^th, 2018 at 7:34pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 7^th, 2018 at 7:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7^th, 2018 at 7:24pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 7^th, 2018 at 7:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7^th, 2018 at 7:10pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7^th, 2018 at 6:59pm:

cods wrote on Aug 7^th, 2018 at 6:23pm:

racist....

if hammer said

why do muslim extremist. [far far left] always resort to violence..

you would be all over him...

I certainly do not condone this..

but how do they know they were far right?? did they claim the assault?...or someone arrested...

its pretty pathetic!!! what ever do they think they will achieve ? Roll Eyes

cods, I can't really get past this: "muslim extremist. [far far left]".

Could you please explain to me why Muslim extremists are far, far left?

Hammer: can you help her out?

We can all agree on this, right:

- Left wing = liberal

- Right wing = conservative

So, do you have any idea why cods might think that Muslim extremists are (very) liberal, as opposed to (very) conservative?

It's got me flummoxed.

It's a evolving description Pecca. Right wing usually means white anti leftists. I wouldn't call muslim terrorists in white countries conservative types. Actually the far right aren't conservative either. They want to bring down the current state of western politics. I can't make sense of any of it actually. It's far more complicated than simple brandings.

Well, I wouldn't necessarily say they're right or left.

It can be argued that there are basically four types of extremists (radical groups):

- Right wing

- Left wing

- Politico Religious

- Single issue

Muslim extremists obviously fall into the 'Politico Religious' category.

However, in the absence of that category, they fit right wing rather than left wing.

Let's look at the left and right's views on gays, for example.

Left: generally support gay marriage; support anti-discrimination laws to protect LGBT against workplace discrimination.

Right: generally opposed to gay marriage; opposed to certain anti-discrimination laws due to certain religious beliefs.

Which one looks like a Muslim extremist's views?

Even the white supremist movement has opposing factions Pecca. It's probably better not to throw groups into these outdated and questionable categorys. Look at Pauline Hanson for instance. There's nothing conservative about her even though they call her one. All it is is the established system vs groups who oppose it within a country. That's it.

You can't be serious?

Nothing conservative about Hanson?

Tell me you didn't just say that.

The best indictor that a politician is not conservative is when the rest gang up to discredit them and depose them from power if possible. Trump isn't conservative nor is Hanson. They are radical. Left leaning politics is the new conservative in the west Pecca. Conservative means to conserve the current system.

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Re: Far-right protesters 'ransack socialist bookshop
Reply #21 - Aug 7^th, 2018 at 7:41pm

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 6^th, 2018 at 10:32pm:

Frank wrote on Aug 6^th, 2018 at 9:39pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 6^th, 2018 at 5:09pm:

[url=https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/aug/05/far-right-protesters-ransack-socialist-bookshop-bookmarks-in-london Far-right protesters 'ransack socialist bookshop in London'[/url]Such disrespect for the right to Freedom of Speech. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

Claimed in the Granuiad!!! No evidence, of course. Fake or staged by owners. Nobody saw it, no evidence, nobody seen nuffin'. No evidence, 'some damage' is headlined as 'ransacked'. Typical Granuiad and typical Bwian. Preening, po-faced loons.

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Shooting the messenger, Soren? Is that the best rebuttal you can come up with? Tsk, tsk, Roll Eyes

It's absolutely disgusting that far-left thugs felt emboldened to do this to the home of @Jacob_Rees_Mogg. They want to intimidate and shut down people who stand by their principles, but Jacob has handled the incident with complete class!

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/vandals-attack-jacob-reesmoggs-home-with-s...

At least there is EVIDENCE of the lefty thugs' attack. There is no evidence of the 'ransacking' of the bookshop, only some people holding placartds.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/bookmarks-bookshop-attack-social...

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Re: Far-right protesters 'ransack socialist bookshop
Reply #22 - Aug 7^th, 2018 at 7:44pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 7^th, 2018 at 7:41pm: