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Aug 6th, 2018 at 11:29am
 
It’s cash for ethics as GetUp! gets down and very dirty

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Environmentalism has never been a beauty contest. Who can forget those unkempt figures in the 1980s prostrating themselves before bulldozers to save a reptile of equally ghastly appearance?

The ugliness of today’s campaigners, however, is more than skin-deep. In their high-minded defence of clean energy, they are not afraid to get down and dirty.

Take the $2.4 million in kickbacks GetUp! cheerfully admits receiving from a subsidiary of Meridian, New Zealand’s largest energy producer, majority owned by the New Zealand government.

Could that financial inducement be driving GetUp!’s rabid campaign against Josh Frydenberg’s energy plan, which will put an end to the subsidies Meridian has been milking for years?

Meridian owns two wind farms, at Mount Millar in South Australia and Mount Mercer in Victoria. They receive subsidies in the form of large-scale generation certificates, something akin to a Woolworths rewards card except that they can be sold for serious money. It sells LGCs when the price is high to coal generators, jacking up their costs and so hastening their demise. And your granny gets to pay for it through her electricity bill.

Meridian, this paragon of green corporate virtue, trousered $65 million from selling LGCs in the past two financial years which, after deducting expenses, netted it $49m in straight profit, a windfall for New Zealand taxpayers who own 51 per cent of the company.

The smug people from GetUp!, who say they support economic fairness, seem to think this socially unjust arrangement is fair and are campaigning to keep the scam going. GetUp! is fighting a rearguard action to defend the renewable energy targets that Fryd­enberg pledges to abolish when the present round ends in 2020.

Slick TV ads, funded by GetUp! and Greenpeace, have been screening in Labor states and territories in the hope of persuading them to block Frydenberg’s proposal and his national energy guarantee, which will low­er the profits of speculators who trade LGCs and force the likes of Meridian to provide power 24 hours a day, not just when it feels like it.

If Labor gets in, it will be game over for common sense. Bill Shorten has pledged a target of 50 per cent renewable energy by 2050, which would turbocharge the market in certificates to the benefit of Kiwi carpetbaggers and others who make a mint out of these pernicious financial instruments.

GetUp!, meanwhile, is urging its supporters to stop buying electricity from the “Dirty Three” — AGL, EnergyAustralia and Origin — and take their business to Powershop, “the only energy company actively campaigning to save the RET”, and by extension the subsidies. Powershop is an offshoot of Meridian. It boasts of being Australia’s only carbon-neutral energy provider, a claim invalidated by the small print that notes Powershop
“cannot guarantee that the electricity every customer receives is renewably sourced”.


The cracks in its green facade are papered over with UN certificates pegged to “renewable energy projects in developing countries”. It may not be the most trustworthy eco currency but it allows Powershop’s customers to buy the same electrons from the grid sold by their old retailer without having to ask where they came from.

“Switch in 5 minutes!” GetUp! urges. “Feel good that you’ve changed your energy provider to one that cares about the environment!” Feel good too, one presumes, about Powershop’s back­hander to GetUp! for every cus­tomer who comes across. It’s about $120 a customer, if GetUp!’s figures can be trusted. Should this glaring conflict of interest be declared by GetUp! in its TV campaign in favour of renewable energy subsidies? Why, of course.

A little honesty from these hired advocates wouldn’t go amiss, as it wouldn’t from Greenpeace, which leases its brand to Powerhouse for an undisclosed sum, and shares the cost of a pro-subsidy TV campaign. It’s a marriage of convenience; Greenpeace has tax-deductible charity status while GetUp! does not. Should any reader of The Australian be inclined to contribute, here’s a little tax advice: give your donation to Greenpeace and get half of it back.

GetUp!’s foray into the cash-for-ethics market doesn’t stop with demonising the Dirty Three. GetUp!’s Brighter Banks campaign invites us to register our disdain for the big four and the $70 billion they supposedly have lent to “climate-destroying fossil fuel projects”. One click on GetUp!’s website links supporters to Bank Australia, which claims to “share their values” and will do so by flicking $50 to GetUp! if they move their account across.

Bank Australia has much to lose if Frydenberg’s proposal gets through, having entered into a 10-year agreement to buy power and LGCs from Pacific Hydro’s Crowlands wind farm. Futures contracts for LGCs for 2020 and beyond were selling for less than $25 a megawatt hour last week, a fraction of the price they commanded when the RET was in full swing. If GetUp! succeeds in retaining the RET with its campaign of disinformation and backing for Labor, Bank Australia, along with Meridian, will be in clover.

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Reply #1 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 11:29am
 
Pt 2.

Self-interest and crude hyperbole are the ties that bind the coalition of rent-seekers, working to destabilise the government’s energy market reforms.


Former national director of GetUp! Simon Sheikh now runs Future Super with $240m under management, invested in environmentally friendly causes “to produce a world worth retiring in”. No prizes for guessing where they stand on the RET.

GetUp!’s pro-Labor presence at last weekend’s by-elections, when it paid people to don cheap orange T-shirts, stand outside polling booths and take potshots against the government, removes any doubt that GetUp! qualifies as an associated entity under the Australian Electoral Commission rules. It might not stop GetUp!’s insidious campaigns but it would force it to reveal the identity of its paymasters.
The activists who complain so long and hard about the vested interests of others seem strangely reluctant to have the spotlight cast on themselves.
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Reply #2 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 11:59am
 
Oh look Grendel's posted an unbiased Australian newspaper link
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Reply #3 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 12:06pm
 
Its time wrote on Aug 6th, 2018 at 11:59am:
Oh look Grendel's posted an unbiased Australian newspaper link

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Reply #4 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 12:06pm
 
Poor old rtard Polly Waffle wouldn't know a GetUp! if it fell on him.
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Reply #5 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 12:14pm
 
Nick Cater is right wing scum....Nothing in his claims amounts to anything but opinion....End of story!!!

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Reply #6 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 12:22pm
 
Who cares about Labor's Socialist Slime GetUp! with BlackDay cheering when Mal has the election in the bag now that Labor is keeping the Worst Opposition "Leader" in Australia's history ?


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It is enough to make a Lefty curl up in the foetal position and sob.


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Reply #7 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 12:25pm
 
juliar wrote on Aug 6th, 2018 at 12:22pm:
Who cares about Labor's Socialist Slime GetUp! with BlackDay cheering when Mal has the election in the bag now that Labor is keeping the Worst Opposition "Leader" in Australia's history ?


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It is enough to make a Lefty curl up in the foetal position and sob.




If you think preferred PM is going to get you a win with a one seat majority and 8 seats already all but gone in QLD alone you're in for quite the surprise  Smiley
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Reply #8 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 12:27pm
 
juliar wrote on Aug 6th, 2018 at 12:22pm:
Who cares about Labor's Socialist Slime GetUp! with BlackDay cheering when Mal has the election in the bag now that Labor is keeping the Worst Opposition "Leader" in Australia's history ?


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DjRPvwdUYAUJz0m.jpg
It is enough to make a Lefty curl up in the foetal position and sob.




We don't elect Prime Ministers, though.

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Reply #9 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 12:34pm
 
How remarkable..... they challenge City Hall.... I guess that's as partisan as you can get....

Wait one - the creed is that profit will make perfect..... and profit for the coal-fired and other 'mainstream' energy suppliers will lead to modernisation, upgrades and updates etc etc.. and one day all will be roses in the Great Land of Oz....

Why then is there any argument when a private enterprise 'alternative energy' company makes a profit?  Isn't that what they're there for, same as every other energy supplier?

Do any of these commentators have a single idea what they are talking about?

As for the ethics of selling on credits or whatever and raising the cost to the opposition - well, let's just say they'd do the same - and that is why businesses need to be regulated and forced to play by rules.

I note this guy overlooks the massive rise in cost of power following 'privatisation'... that doesn't fit with the ideology that 'private enterprise is more efficient'......

Yup - if that mechanic, without my permission, put a new engine in my car and it cost me three times as much to run - I'd sue the arse off him... and win.
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Reply #10 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 12:37pm
 
juliar wrote on Aug 6th, 2018 at 12:22pm:
Who cares about Labor's Socialist Slime GetUp! with BlackDay cheering when Mal has the election in the bag now that Labor is keeping the Worst Opposition "Leader" in Australia's history ?


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DjRPvwdUYAUJz0m.jpg
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LOL, seems some rghtards didn't get the meme - Your kill Bill campaign came up short(en)
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Reply #11 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 12:54pm
 
Blatant abuse by Labor's GetUp! Slime with BlackDay cheering.

Australia is supposed to be a democracy, that being so it is vital that all the organisations operate in a level playing field. 

At present we do not have a level playing field with the ALP, the Unions, Getup, and the Greens on the one side and the Liberals and One Nation on the other. 

The ALP, the Liberals, Greens and One Nation all have to disclose all donations but the Unions and Getup, both extremely wealthy organisations not having to do so. 

This is a great threat to our democracy with too much imbalance that we will surely come to regret.  Too much power always ends up with corruption.





Activist group GetUp! exposed over secret call-centre script targeting LNP in Longman
Sheradyn Holderhead & Sharri Markson, National Political Reporter, The Daily Telegraph July 31, 2018 8:31am

THE secret GetUp! call-centre script used in the Longman by-election obliterates the organisation’s claim they are independent, with voters told not to support the Turnbull Government candidate to stop “billions of dollars in tax cuts to big corporations.”

The activist organisation bought a commercial database of phone numbers for almost 30,000 people in the Queensland electorate and called on 400 people to man a call-centre that encouraged voters to support the ALP or Greens.

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Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull arrives for a press   LNP candidate for Longman Trevor Ruthenberg after conceding defeat
outside State Parliament in Sydney on Sunday.         at the LNP post election party on Saturday. Picture: AAP
Picture: Jenny Evans

The revelations about the full extent of GetUp!’ s role in the Longman by-election comes as the fallout continues within the Turnbull government over the LNP’s disastrous primary vote of just under 30 per cent — a 10 per cent swing against them since the 2016 federal election.

The Daily Telegraph has obtained GetUp!’ s script that its 400 workers used in call-centres to encourage support for Labor and the Greens in the weekend’s by-election in the Queensland seat.

“At the moment the LNP have a plan to give tens of billions of dollars in tax cuts to big corporations — money which could be spent to improve Caboolture State High, or fund Caboolture hospital,” the script states.

“I’m going to be a little bold here. But if this billion-dollar handout to this to the big end of town is of concern for you, then I strongly recommend that you put Trevor Ruthenburg (sic) and the LNP last on your voting ballot this electorate.”

The calls were made in the final three weeks of the campaign as GetUp!national director Paul Oosting said the group has changed its focus from online activism to person-to-person connections.

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A snapshot of the script during the campaign.

GetUp!has long fought allegations that it was in the pocket of Labor and has received union funding, but Mr Oosting insisted the organisation was “fiercely independent”.

He said volunteers were encouraged to have a “genuine conversation” with the voters on the other end of the line, which could last up to 30 minutes, about an issue rather than having the feel of a robocall.

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Paul Oosting from GetUp!appearing at a Joint Standing Committee on Electoral Matters after the 2016 election.

The script, which was regularly updated, was provided as back-up if volunteers struggled with the conversation.

“It can be extremely intimidating talking to someone who is trying to cook dinner,” he said.

“We have the script there so if they (the volunteers) want to run through it.

“We’re really hopeful that the Turnbull Government will take the right lesson from this (the by-election) and take the right approach to the company tax cuts.”


One script change was to advise volunteers to put the LNP as one of their bottom preferences, rather than last, after Dr Jim Saleam, a former neo-Nazi, was announced as a candidate for the Australia First Party.

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Volunteers dressed as the Bananas in Pyjamas from activist group GetUp!following Liberal candidate Georgina Downer at a polling booth in Stirling. Picture: AAP

The change in strategy has also spurred on the creation of “action groups” in 40 electorates it describes as holding Tupperware-style parties where volunteers hosting phone call nights at their homes rather than making calls from a central office.

It followed a “sobering” analysis of the 2016 Federal Election in which Mr Oosting said GetUp!realised that it needed to update its strategy and decentralise.

“In a sense it’s less targeted but we’re connecting real people with real people,” he said.

Liberal strategists said the script “shows what the Government is up against” particularly in Queensland where GetUp!focuses time and resources on trying to bring down Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton.

[url]https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/activist-group
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Reply #12 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 12:57pm
 
Silly old rtard Polly Waffle is struggling to see clearly thru his latest delirium attack.


The Gecko ISLAMIC spy commits another recidivist offence of ILLEGALLY MISQUOTING ANOTHER POSTER.

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 6th, 2018 at 12:27pm:
juliar wrote on Aug 6th, 2018 at 12:22pm:
Who cares about Labor's Socialist Slime GetUp! with BlackDay cheering when Mal has the election in the bag now that Labor is keeping the Worst Opposition "Leader" in Australia's history ?


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DjRPvwdUYAUJz0m.jpg
It is enough to make a Lefty curl up in the foetal position and sob.


We don't elect Prime Ministers, though. Grin

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Reply #13 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 12:58pm
 
Sharri Markson???

You must be joking???

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Reply #14 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 1:04pm
 
juliar wrote on Aug 6th, 2018 at 12:57pm:
Silly old rtard Polly Waffle is struggling to see clearly thru his latest delirium attack.


The Gecko ISLAMIC spy commits another recidivist offence of ILLEGALLY MISQUOTING ANOTHER POSTER.


greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 6th, 2018 at 12:27pm:
juliar wrote on Aug 6th, 2018 at 12:22pm:
Who cares about Labor's Socialist Slime GetUp! with BlackDay cheering when Mal has the election in the bag now that Labor is keeping the Worst Opposition "Leader" in Australia's history ?


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DjRPvwdUYAUJz0m.jpg
It is enough to make a Lefty curl up in the foetal position and sob.


We don't elect Prime Ministers, though. Grin



juliar thinks we elect Prime Ministers   Grin
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