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Reply #90 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 5:37pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 5:07pm:
Rhino wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 12:40pm:
Tuna is one of the worst foods you can eat due to heavy metal contamination. Explains a lot though, one of the signs of mercury poisoning is cognitive decline.


Do you disagree or something? Why the attempt at an insult?

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They know nothing else.

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Reply #91 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 6:26pm
 
Grendel wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 8:50am:
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Vitamin D helps the body absorb calcium and is crucial to building healthy bones. So crucial, in fact, that scientists think lighter skin tones are an adaptation for producing more vitamin D in less-sunny climates. Skin low in the pigment melanin can produce more vitamin D from less sun exposure than darker skin.

Liar liar pants on fire again Gweggy the TROLL. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #92 - Aug 11th, 2018 at 10:21am
 
Yadda wrote on Aug 4th, 2018 at 6:47pm:
Each winter, when my neighbours get colds and influenza, i don't

Why not ?





I'd take a guess, that bacteria and viruses steer clear of you ...

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fearful of what THEY might catch





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Reply #93 - Aug 12th, 2018 at 10:31am
 
Yadda wrote on Aug 4th, 2018 at 6:47pm:
I don't get sick.

Each winter, when my neighbours get colds and influenza, i don't

Why not ?

Because my immune system is strong [.....i would suppose].

70%-90% of my diet is uncooked, and unprocessed foods.



personal testimony, being a subjective account, is open to many forms of error such as: wishful thinking; confirmation bias; self-deception; post hoc reasoning; and many more, including: deception by others - some anecdotal evidence is the result of deliberate falsification.

For this reason, anecdotes do not qualify as robust evidence: there is not enough rigour to them and they have no scientific value.
http://www.critical-thinking.org.uk/critical-thinking/fallacies/anecdotes.php
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Reply #94 - Aug 13th, 2018 at 1:41am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 1:17pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 1:10pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 6:46pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 6:36pm:
I bought 5 bottles of PhysiCal (on special for $1.75 each 2L). After getting through a bottle each of the milk (even with coffee) I feel stronger. I would not waste $20 on vitamin D tablets if they did not work.


"work"?

Can you explain how they work?


Calcium strengthens the bones. The Vitamin D improves muscle strength, circulation, etc.


How do you know it's doing that, though?


Because I would go about my life being physically active either taking the vitamin D or doing without the vitamins. I felt physically stronger in my day to day activity. But after going a couple weeks without the vitamin D tablets, I felt physically weaker.
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Reply #95 - Aug 13th, 2018 at 1:48am
 
People told me long before this topic was created that I need not take vitamins. But, a doctor, who had analysed the blood sample results, told me that I was in need of taking vitamin D tablets for a short time.

I have also been encouraged to either take a vitamin B complex or spirulina tablets for the length of time needed to detox my body. They work within a week of having used the supplements or vitamins.
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Reply #96 - Aug 13th, 2018 at 10:28am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 13th, 2018 at 1:41am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 1:17pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 1:10pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 6:46pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 6:36pm:
I bought 5 bottles of PhysiCal (on special for $1.75 each 2L). After getting through a bottle each of the milk (even with coffee) I feel stronger. I would not waste $20 on vitamin D tablets if they did not work.


"work"?

Can you explain how they work?


Calcium strengthens the bones. The Vitamin D improves muscle strength, circulation, etc.


How do you know it's doing that, though?


Because I would go about my life being physically active either taking the vitamin D or doing without the vitamins. I felt physically stronger in my day to day activity. But after going a couple weeks without the vitamin D tablets, I felt physically weaker.



PLacebo effect.
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Reply #97 - Aug 13th, 2018 at 10:41am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 13th, 2018 at 1:48am:
People told me long before this topic was created that I need not take vitamins. But, a doctor, who had analysed the blood sample results, told me that I was in need of taking vitamin D tablets for a short time.

I have also been encouraged to either take a vitamin B complex or spirulina tablets for the length of time needed to detox my body. They work within a week of having used the supplements or vitamins.


"Detoxing Ė the idea that you can flush your system of impurities and leave your organs squeaky clean and raring to go Ė is a scam.

"Itís a pseudo-medical concept designed to sell you things."


You canít detox your body. Itís a myth.
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Reply #98 - Aug 14th, 2018 at 1:11pm
 
Bojack Horseman wrote on Aug 13th, 2018 at 10:28am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 13th, 2018 at 1:41am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 1:17pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 1:10pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 6:46pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 6:36pm:
I bought 5 bottles of PhysiCal (on special for $1.75 each 2L). After getting through a bottle each of the milk (even with coffee) I feel stronger. I would not waste $20 on vitamin D tablets if they did not work.


"work"?

Can you explain how they work?


Calcium strengthens the bones. The Vitamin D improves muscle strength, circulation, etc.


How do you know it's doing that, though?


Because I would go about my life being physically active either taking the vitamin D or doing without the vitamins. I felt physically stronger in my day to day activity. But after going a couple weeks without the vitamin D tablets, I felt physically weaker.


PLacebo effect.


After a couple weeks without it, the effect would start to wear off. It could not be a placebo effect if I have been physically stronger taking the tablets, whilst my alcohol intake has been higher over the last 2 months than it has been over the first 6 months of this year.
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Reply #99 - Aug 14th, 2018 at 1:13pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 14th, 2018 at 1:11pm:
Bojack Horseman wrote on Aug 13th, 2018 at 10:28am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 13th, 2018 at 1:41am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 1:17pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 1:10pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 6:46pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 6:36pm:
I bought 5 bottles of PhysiCal (on special for $1.75 each 2L). After getting through a bottle each of the milk (even with coffee) I feel stronger. I would not waste $20 on vitamin D tablets if they did not work.


"work"?

Can you explain how they work?


Calcium strengthens the bones. The Vitamin D improves muscle strength, circulation, etc.


How do you know it's doing that, though?


Because I would go about my life being physically active either taking the vitamin D or doing without the vitamins. I felt physically stronger in my day to day activity. But after going a couple weeks without the vitamin D tablets, I felt physically weaker.


PLacebo effect.


After a couple weeks without it, the effect would start to wear off. It could not be a placebo effect if I have been physically stronger taking the tablets, whilst my alcohol intake has been higher over the last 2 months than it has been over the first 6 months of this year.



No its precisely fulfilling the placebo effect.
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Reply #100 - Aug 14th, 2018 at 1:19pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 13th, 2018 at 10:41am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 13th, 2018 at 1:48am:
People told me long before this topic was created that I need not take vitamins. But, a doctor, who had analysed the blood sample results, told me that I was in need of taking vitamin D tablets for a short time.

I have also been encouraged to either take a vitamin B complex or spirulina tablets for the length of time needed to detox my body. They work within a week of having used the supplements or vitamins.


"Detoxing Ė the idea that you can flush your system of impurities and leave your organs squeaky clean and raring to go Ė is a scam.

"Itís a pseudo-medical concept designed to sell you things."


You canít detox your body. Itís a myth.


Ten years ago, I was left near sterile due to people poisoning my water supply. After resolving the issue of changing locks and renewing my drinking water with new containers and a different filtering system, my fertility has returned (albeit slightly lower than prior to my initial harassment). Green tea, black tea, ginger tea, asparagus, garlic, vitamin B complex, low sugar diets, coffee, fruits and vegetables, and low-fat meats not only help to lose weight, but also help restore fertility levels. Before 2016, I would not be able to run anymore than 300m of a 5km nightly walk. My blood vessels had constricted somewhat, making it difficult to breathe, have a healthy metabolism and lose weight. Using general detoxing methods, with clean drinking water being at the top of the list, does revitalise the body.
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Reply #101 - Aug 14th, 2018 at 1:21pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 14th, 2018 at 1:19pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 13th, 2018 at 10:41am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 13th, 2018 at 1:48am:
People told me long before this topic was created that I need not take vitamins. But, a doctor, who had analysed the blood sample results, told me that I was in need of taking vitamin D tablets for a short time.

I have also been encouraged to either take a vitamin B complex or spirulina tablets for the length of time needed to detox my body. They work within a week of having used the supplements or vitamins.


"Detoxing Ė the idea that you can flush your system of impurities and leave your organs squeaky clean and raring to go Ė is a scam.

"Itís a pseudo-medical concept designed to sell you things."


You canít detox your body. Itís a myth.


Ten years ago, I was left near sterile due to people poisoning my water supply. After resolving the issue of changing locks and renewing my drinking water with new containers and a different filtering system, my fertility has returned (albeit slightly lower than prior to my initial harassment). Green tea, black tea, ginger tea, asparagus, garlic, vitamin B complex, low sugar diets, coffee, fruits and vegetables, and low-fat meats not only help to lose weight, but also help restore fertility levels. Before 2016, I would not be able to run anymore than 300m of a 5km nightly walk. My blood vessels had constricted somewhat, making it difficult to breathe, have a healthy metabolism and lose weight. Using general detoxing methods, with clean drinking water being at the top of the list, does revitalise the body.




Its probably a sad indictment on me, that I just literally urinated with laughter. A mixzture of paranoia?, random pseudoscientific statements, etc.


E.g. just out of curiosity, how did you know that your blood vessels constricted somewhat, and could you explain the mechanism leading vasoconstriction to reduced breathing and decreased metabolism?
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Reply #102 - Aug 14th, 2018 at 1:34pm
 
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Reply #103 - Aug 14th, 2018 at 10:19pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 7:56am:
Here's something for Vitamin Supplement Value - Team Denial

Vitamania Premieres Sunday August 12, 8.30pm on SBS

Dr Derek Muller takes us on an epic journey to uncover why scientists disagree on the effectiveness and safety of vitamins and supplements.

https://www.sbs.com.au/programs/vitamania



Very interesting program. Dr Derek Muller is a physicist so he didn't come into the program with preconceived biases.
Here are some of the important points

- A vitamin deficiency is bad for your health
- A vitamin overdose is also bad for your health
- The Vitamin supplements industry is completely unregulated. You have no idea what you are ingesting and what the dosage is
- Vitamin supplements are almost entirely synthetic and are created in chemical factories. They are not "natural"
- Vitamin D is the latest craze but the jury us still out about what levels are healthy and whether supplements are really necessary.

By far the most interesting point made was that in general the people who take vitamin supplements don't actually need them because they eat healthily anyway.
It makes a lot of sense because if you are motivated enough to buy and take vitamin supplements then it is likely that you are motivated to eat healthy food as well.
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Reply #104 - Aug 14th, 2018 at 10:25pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Aug 14th, 2018 at 10:19pm:
buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 7:56am:
Here's something for Vitamin Supplement Value - Team Denial

Vitamania Premieres Sunday August 12, 8.30pm on SBS

Dr Derek Muller takes us on an epic journey to uncover why scientists disagree on the effectiveness and safety of vitamins and supplements.

https://www.sbs.com.au/programs/vitamania



Very interesting program. Dr Derek Muller is a physicist so he didn't come into the program with preconceived biases.
Here are some of the important points

- A vitamin deficiency is bad for your health
- A vitamin overdose is also bad for your health
- The Vitamin supplements industry is completely unregulated. You have no idea what you are ingesting and what the dosage is
- Vitamin supplements are almost entirely synthetic and are created in chemical factories. They are not "natural"
- Vitamin D is the latest craze but the jury us still out about what levels are healthy and whether supplements are really necessary.






Looking at that list, I'm not sure what the fussabout the program was. We already well know most of these points apart from point 4 which is irrelevant.
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