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Re: We dont need vitamin supplements
Reply #75 - Aug 9th, 2018 at 1:10pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 6:46pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 6:36pm:
I bought 5 bottles of PhysiCal (on special for $1.75 each 2L). After getting through a bottle each of the milk (even with coffee) I feel stronger. I would not waste $20 on vitamin D tablets if they did not work.


"work"?

Can you explain how they work?


Calcium strengthens the bones. The Vitamin D improves muscle strength, circulation, etc.
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Reply #76 - Aug 9th, 2018 at 1:11pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 1:10pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 6:46pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 6:36pm:
I bought 5 bottles of PhysiCal (on special for $1.75 each 2L). After getting through a bottle each of the milk (even with coffee) I feel stronger. I would not waste $20 on vitamin D tablets if they did not work.


"work"?

Can you explain how they work?


Calcium strengthens the bones. The Vitamin D improves muscle strength, circulation, etc.




Circulation eh? How?
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Re: We dont need vitamin supplements
Reply #77 - Aug 9th, 2018 at 1:14pm
 
Bojack Horseman wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 1:11pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 1:10pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 6:46pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 6:36pm:
I bought 5 bottles of PhysiCal (on special for $1.75 each 2L). After getting through a bottle each of the milk (even with coffee) I feel stronger. I would not waste $20 on vitamin D tablets if they did not work.


"work"?

Can you explain how they work?


Calcium strengthens the bones. The Vitamin D improves muscle strength, circulation, etc.


Circulation eh? How?


https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/161618.php

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Vitamin D has multiple roles in the body, helping to:

Maintain the health of bones and teeth.
Support the health of the immune system, brain, and nervous system.
Regulate insulin levels and aid diabetes management.
Support lung function and cardiovascular health.
Influence the expression of genes involved in cancer development.
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Re: We dont need vitamin supplements
Reply #78 - Aug 9th, 2018 at 1:16pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 1:14pm:
Bojack Horseman wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 1:11pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 1:10pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 6:46pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 6:36pm:
I bought 5 bottles of PhysiCal (on special for $1.75 each 2L). After getting through a bottle each of the milk (even with coffee) I feel stronger. I would not waste $20 on vitamin D tablets if they did not work.


"work"?

Can you explain how they work?


Calcium strengthens the bones. The Vitamin D improves muscle strength, circulation, etc.


Circulation eh? How?


https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/161618.php

Quote:
Vitamin D has multiple roles in the body, helping to:

Maintain the health of bones and teeth.
Support the health of the immune system, brain, and nervous system.
Regulate insulin levels and aid diabetes management.
Support lung function and cardiovascular health.
Influence the expression of genes involved in cancer development.



I'll repeat my question because you have not answered how? I'm looking for a physiological mechanism for this.


https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2213858713702122?via%3Dihub Actual peer reviewed article, showing no effect using meta-analysis.
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Re: We dont need vitamin supplements
Reply #79 - Aug 9th, 2018 at 1:17pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 1:10pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 6:46pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 6:36pm:
I bought 5 bottles of PhysiCal (on special for $1.75 each 2L). After getting through a bottle each of the milk (even with coffee) I feel stronger. I would not waste $20 on vitamin D tablets if they did not work.


"work"?

Can you explain how they work?


Calcium strengthens the bones. The Vitamin D improves muscle strength, circulation, etc.


How do you know it's doing that, though?

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Re: We dont need vitamin supplements
Reply #80 - Aug 9th, 2018 at 9:54pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 1:10pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 6:46pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 6:36pm:
I bought 5 bottles of PhysiCal (on special for $1.75 each 2L). After getting through a bottle each of the milk (even with coffee) I feel stronger. I would not waste $20 on vitamin D tablets if they did not work.


"work"?

Can you explain how they work?


Calcium strengthens the bones. The Vitamin D improves muscle strength, circulation, etc.


Quote:
Vitamin D has multiple roles in the body, helping to:
Maintain the health of bones and teeth.
Support the health of the immune system, brain, and nervous system.
Regulate insulin levels and aid diabetes management.
Support lung function and cardiovascular health.
Influence the expression of genes involved in cancer development.


Strange that in your quote there is no mention of strengthening or improving. In afraid that you have fallen for the marketing hype and misunderstood the science.

Vitamin supplements won't make you into a superman. At the very best they will maintain your health. Most of them are however just expensive placebos that if you are not careful about the dosage could actually be doing you harm.
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Re: We dont need vitamin supplements
Reply #81 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 7:56am
 
Here's something for
Vitamin Supplement Value - Team Denial




Vitamania
| Premieres Sunday August 12, 8.30pm on SBS


Dr Derek Muller takes us on an epic journey to uncover why scientists disagree on the effectiveness and safety of vitamins and supplements.

https://www.sbs.com.au/programs/vitamania

I'm hoping Dr Muller can keep an open mind, on this
But I know this is not usually the modus operandi of celebrity scientists and doctors, trying to lift their profiles
As informative as TV's Dr Michael Mosley's documentaries are on obesity and diet - he's not TOTALLY without 'know it all' bias






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Re: We dont need vitamin supplements
Reply #82 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 8:33am
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 9:54pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 1:10pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 6:46pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 6:36pm:
I bought 5 bottles of PhysiCal (on special for $1.75 each 2L). After getting through a bottle each of the milk (even with coffee) I feel stronger. I would not waste $20 on vitamin D tablets if they did not work.


"work"?

Can you explain how they work?


Calcium strengthens the bones. The Vitamin D improves muscle strength, circulation, etc.


Quote:
Vitamin D has multiple roles in the body, helping to:
Maintain the health of bones and teeth.
Support the health of the immune system, brain, and nervous system.
Regulate insulin levels and aid diabetes management.
Support lung function and cardiovascular health.
Influence the expression of genes involved in cancer development.


Strange that in your quote there is no mention of strengthening or improving. In afraid that you have fallen for the marketing hype and misunderstood the science.

Vitamin supplements won't make you into a superman. At the very best they will maintain your health. Most of them are however just expensive placebos that if you are not careful about the dosage could actually be doing you harm.


Correct.
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Re: We dont need vitamin supplements
Reply #83 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 8:50am
 
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Vitamin D helps the body absorb calcium and is crucial to building healthy bones. So crucial, in fact, that scientists think lighter skin tones are an adaptation for producing more vitamin D in less-sunny climates. Skin low in the pigment melanin can produce more vitamin D from less sun exposure than darker skin.
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Re: We dont need vitamin supplements
Reply #84 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 9:45am
 
Grendel wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 8:50am:
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Vitamin D helps the body absorb calcium and is crucial to building healthy bones. So crucial, in fact, that scientists think lighter skin tones are an adaptation for producing more vitamin D in less-sunny climates. Skin low in the pigment melanin can produce more vitamin D from less sun exposure than darker skin.


Yes.

And we don't need supplements to get vitamin D.

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Re: We dont need vitamin supplements
Reply #85 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 12:32pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 9:45am:
Grendel wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 8:50am:
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Vitamin D helps the body absorb calcium and is crucial to building healthy bones. So crucial, in fact, that scientists think lighter skin tones are an adaptation for producing more vitamin D in less-sunny climates. Skin low in the pigment melanin can produce more vitamin D from less sun exposure than darker skin.


Yes.

And we don't need supplements to get vitamin D.



When i was sick my vit D level got down to something ridiculous like 21% and i was allergic to the supplements that are made with soy oil. So I ate a small can of tuna every day for a few weeks and voila! no more deficiency. Seems the supplements werent even needed for a deficiency

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Re: We dont need vitamin supplements
Reply #86 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 12:38pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 12:32pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 9:45am:
Grendel wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 8:50am:
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Vitamin D helps the body absorb calcium and is crucial to building healthy bones. So crucial, in fact, that scientists think lighter skin tones are an adaptation for producing more vitamin D in less-sunny climates. Skin low in the pigment melanin can produce more vitamin D from less sun exposure than darker skin.


Yes.

And we don't need supplements to get vitamin D.



When i was sick my vit D level got down to something ridiculous like 21% and i was allergic to the supplements that are made with soy oil. So I ate a small can of tuna every day for a few weeks and voila! no more deficiency. Seems the supplements werent even needed for a deficiency

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Tuna is very good.

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Reply #87 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 12:40pm
 
Tuna is one of the worst foods you can eat due to heavy metal contamination. Explains a lot though, one of the signs of mercury poisoning is cognitive decline.
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Re: We dont need vitamin supplements
Reply #88 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 4:34pm
 
LOL
gweggy TROLL.... 

you aint everybody dopey.
your circumstances are not everybody's...

your problem... too much ego and ignorance.
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Reply #89 - Aug 10th, 2018 at 5:07pm
 
Rhino wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 12:40pm:
Tuna is one of the worst foods you can eat due to heavy metal contamination. Explains a lot though, one of the signs of mercury poisoning is cognitive decline.


Do you disagree or something? Why the attempt at an insult?

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