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Re: We dont need vitamin supplements
Reply #45 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 11:33am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 6th, 2018 at 11:13am:
Grendel wrote on Aug 6th, 2018 at 9:47am:
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ďPeople neednít worry about vitamins in general,Ē says Professor Amanda Lee, who chaired the group of experts who wrote Australiaís dietary guidelines and is now based at the Australian Prevention Partnership Centre.


Oh dear even Professor Lee agrees with me.

People neednít worry about vitamins in general,
but some people do need them.† D and Magnesium are commonly in shortage due to diet and lifestyle.† Some women can especially be short on D, Iron and Calcium. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Don't believe me?
https://www.healthline.com/health/vitamin-deficiency-in-women#vitamin-b



You are absolutely correct!

Some of us have medical issues eg I have Thalassemia (minor). I need to take supplements.

And I eat a very healthy diet. I have to.

Why?

I donít enjoy B6 injections! Iím far happier with taking supplements plus maintaining a healthy diet thank you very much!

Bottom Line?

Be guided by your own medically qualified health professional.

Oh and for Godís sake....please ignore trolls like Groggy (who clearly has no idea)!



Oh, you're so right dear.

Humans wouldn't have managed to be around for 200,000 years if it wasn't for those supplements.

Sure, Chemist Warehouse was a lot smaller back then, but at least our ancient ancestors still had access to an (albeit limited) range of multi-vitamins.


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Re: We dont need vitamin supplements
Reply #46 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 11:38am
 
Yep....like I said earlier :

Be guided by your OWN medically qualified health professional!

Why?

He/she knows YOUR medical history/issues and they have the necessary medical training to help you!
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Re: We dont need vitamin supplements
Reply #47 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 11:39am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 6th, 2018 at 11:38am:
Yep....like I said earlier :

Be guided by your OWN medically qualified health professional!

Why?

He/she knows YOUR medical history/issues and they have the necessary training to help you!


Indeed, they do.

And they also have the necessary kickbacks from drug companies to help themselves.

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Reply #48 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 11:44am
 
Back to your bridge TROLL you keep proving what an idiot you are on this issue...  lol...  just like you are on all the rest.
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Re: We dont need vitamin supplements
Reply #49 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 11:46am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 6th, 2018 at 11:39am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 6th, 2018 at 11:38am:
Yep....like I said earlier :

Be guided by your OWN medically qualified health professional!

Why?

He/she knows YOUR medical history/issues and they have the necessary training to help you!


Indeed, they do.

And they also have the necessary kickbacks from drug companies to help themselves.



So?

All medications are subject to these ďkickbacksĒ.

Are you now seriously suggesting that people should refuse/stop taking any/all medications which are prescribed by their own fully qualified medical practitioner?

Shocked Shocked



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Re: We dont need vitamin supplements
Reply #50 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 11:49am
 
Grendel wrote on Aug 6th, 2018 at 9:47am:
FROM THE OP...

Quote:
ďPeople neednít worry about vitamins in general,Ē says Professor Amanda Lee, who chaired the group of experts who wrote Australiaís dietary guidelines and is now based at the Australian Prevention Partnership Centre.


Oh dear even Professor Lee agrees with me.

People neednít worry about vitamins in general,
but some people do need them.† D and Magnesium are commonly in shortage due to diet and lifestyle.† Some women can especially be short on D, Iron and Calcium. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Don't believe me?
https://www.healthline.com/health/vitamin-deficiency-in-women#vitamin-b

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Re: We dont need vitamin supplements
Reply #51 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 11:50am
 
Grendel wrote on Aug 6th, 2018 at 11:44am:
Back to your bridge TROLL you keep proving what an idiot you are on this issue...† lol...† just like you are on all the rest.


As you and everyone else has seen....heís only making an utter fool of himself. Iím not sure why heís bothering to hang around in here just to confirm it.

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Re: We dont need vitamin supplements
Reply #52 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 11:51am
 
Grendel wrote on Aug 6th, 2018 at 9:47am:
FROM THE OP...

Quote:
ďPeople neednít worry about vitamins in general,Ē says Professor Amanda Lee, who chaired the group of experts who wrote Australiaís dietary guidelines and is now based at the Australian Prevention Partnership Centre.


Oh dear even Professor Lee agrees with me.

People neednít worry about vitamins in general,
but some people do need them.† D and Magnesium are commonly in shortage due to diet and lifestyle.† Some women can especially be short on D, Iron and Calcium. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Don't believe me?
https://www.healthline.com/health/vitamin-deficiency-in-women#vitamin-b



You are absolutely correct!

Some of us have medical issues eg I have Thalassemia (minor). I need to take supplements.

And I eat a very healthy diet. I have to.

Why?

I donít enjoy B6 injections! Iím far happier with taking supplements plus maintaining a healthy diet thank you very much!

Bottom Line?

Be guided by your own medically qualified health professional.

Oh and for Godís sake....please ignore trolls like Groggy (who clearly has no idea)!







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Re: We dont need vitamin supplements
Reply #53 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 11:57am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 6th, 2018 at 11:33am:
Oh, you're so right dear.

Humans wouldn't have managed to be around for 200,000 years if it wasn't for those supplements.

Sure, Chemist Warehouse was a lot smaller back then, but at least our ancient ancestors still had access to an (albeit limited) range of multi-vitamins.



You just can't help yourself can you pessary......needless to say you were born an arsehole and you'll never change............we should feel sorry for you shouldn't we.........
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Re: We dont need vitamin supplements
Reply #54 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 12:05pm
 
Fuzzball wrote on Aug 6th, 2018 at 11:57am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 6th, 2018 at 11:33am:
Oh, you're so right dear.

Humans wouldn't have managed to be around for 200,000 years if it wasn't for those supplements.

Sure, Chemist Warehouse was a lot smaller back then, but at least our ancient ancestors still had access to an (albeit limited) range of multi-vitamins.



You just can't help yourself can you pessary......needless to say you were born an arsehole and you'll never change............we should feel sorry for you shouldn't we.........


They even have supplements for you:


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Re: We dont need vitamin supplements
Reply #55 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 12:06pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 6th, 2018 at 12:05pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Aug 6th, 2018 at 11:57am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 6th, 2018 at 11:33am:
Oh, you're so right dear.

Humans wouldn't have managed to be around for 200,000 years if it wasn't for those supplements.

Sure, Chemist Warehouse was a lot smaller back then, but at least our ancient ancestors still had access to an (albeit limited) range of multi-vitamins.



You just can't help yourself can you pessary......needless to say you were born an arsehole and you'll never change............we should feel sorry for you shouldn't we.........


They even have supplements for you:


https://cdn7.bigcommerce.com/s-qe2kc8/images/stencil/1280x1280/products/185/653/...


Yes, you're a sad little pervert pessary......
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Re: We dont need vitamin supplements
Reply #56 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 12:09pm
 
Fuzzball wrote on Aug 6th, 2018 at 12:06pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 6th, 2018 at 12:05pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Aug 6th, 2018 at 11:57am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 6th, 2018 at 11:33am:
Oh, you're so right dear.

Humans wouldn't have managed to be around for 200,000 years if it wasn't for those supplements.

Sure, Chemist Warehouse was a lot smaller back then, but at least our ancient ancestors still had access to an (albeit limited) range of multi-vitamins.



You just can't help yourself can you pessary......needless to say you were born an arsehole and you'll never change............we should feel sorry for you shouldn't we.........


They even have supplements for you:


https://cdn7.bigcommerce.com/s-qe2kc8/images/stencil/1280x1280/products/185/653/...


Yes, you're a sad little pervert pessary......


There's a 2-for-1 offer on:

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Re: We dont need vitamin supplements
Reply #57 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 12:19pm
 
Gnads wrote on Aug 6th, 2018 at 8:08am:
buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 5th, 2018 at 11:00am:
Grendel wrote on Aug 4th, 2018 at 7:47pm:
Some people actually do need supplements.




HooRAY !


SOMEONE'S given this a bit of thought

If you have a medical history as long as mine - you've probably had your fair share of dealing with "dieticians"

Don't get me WRONG
Lovely girls (they'll all women, for some reason) for the most part - but they're the people responsible for the "quality" of hospital food menus

Dieticians are NOT scientists, endocrinologists, medical specialists, general practitioners - or nurses
It might sound a bit harsh, but I see most "dieticians" as holding corn-flake packet qualifications

They are full of text-book responses - and "one-size-fits-all" solutions
I'm now confident - through experience - I can read my own body and know its needs better than any "qualified dietician" can




But I digress - and back to Grendal's point

I am short of a liver enzyme that stops me from storing vitamins B1 and B12
I was once injected with what should have been 30 years supply of B12
I became deficient, on a pathology test, after three weeks
My medical team have PRESCRIBED a daily "mega-dose" of vitamins B1 and B12

To the other extreme - I carry a dangerous overload of vitamin B6 (inability to metabolise)
I cannot touch a multi-vitamin - or any B group mixture
I even have to avoid B6 rich foods, such as spinach

Australian's have obeyed all those warnings on exposure to the sun
Like myself, around half of Australians are D3 deficient

https://www.webmd.com/diet/guide/vitamin-d-deficiency#1

I am ALSO on twice daily PRESCRIBED doses of D3


So it's the best specialist medical advice, I follow
Above "dieticians" and internet "wellness bloggers"




People without obvious health problems/medically treated conditions requiring it ...DO NOT NEED VITAMIN SUPPLEMENTS.

... all vitamins do is change the colour & smell of your urine ...





I'll go out on a limb, here - and wager that if you picked 100 Australians, at random, put them through pathological testing on a broad range of vitamin and mineral loadings - you'd find a rough third of them would indicate deficiencies in a number of areas

The ABS have done this regarding vitamin D3

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/4364.0.55.006Chapter2002011-12

Vitamin and mineral deficiencies do NOT necessarily show with immediate symptom
The effects of deficiencies are more long term


If you're "pissing out" vitamins - this is the body getting rid of a surplus dose your body is not needing - or absorbing
It just means you can cut back the dosage, a bit


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Re: We dont need vitamin supplements
Reply #58 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 1:30pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 6th, 2018 at 11:13am:
Grendel wrote on Aug 6th, 2018 at 9:47am:
FROM THE OP...

Quote:
ďPeople neednít worry about vitamins in general,Ē says Professor Amanda Lee, who chaired the group of experts who wrote Australiaís dietary guidelines and is now based at the Australian Prevention Partnership Centre.


Oh dear even Professor Lee agrees with me.

People neednít worry about vitamins in general,
but some people do need them.† D and Magnesium are commonly in shortage due to diet and lifestyle.† Some women can especially be short on D, Iron and Calcium. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Don't believe me?
https://www.healthline.com/health/vitamin-deficiency-in-women#vitamin-b



You are absolutely correct!

Some of us have medical issues eg I have Thalassemia (minor). I need to take supplements.

And I eat a very healthy diet. I have to.

Why?

I donít enjoy B6 injections! Iím far happier with taking supplements plus maintaining a healthy diet thank you very much!

Bottom Line?

Be guided by your own medically qualified health professional.

Oh and for Godís sake....please ignore trolls like Groggy (who clearly has no idea)!


You have a medical condition.

People who don't ... don't need to be taking them.

It's the vast majority of people without medical conditions that take them thus making certain people filthy rich.

My GP (medically qualified health professional) advised me that under normal circumstances it's a waste of money.

My wife has a medical condition post cancer treatment that requires she take VitD & Calcium.

If not for her medical condition she wouldn't be taking it.
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Re: We dont need vitamin supplements
Reply #59 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 3:06pm
 
Gnads wrote on Aug 6th, 2018 at 1:30pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 6th, 2018 at 11:13am:
Grendel wrote on Aug 6th, 2018 at 9:47am:
FROM THE OP...

Quote:
ďPeople neednít worry about vitamins in general,Ē says Professor Amanda Lee, who chaired the group of experts who wrote Australiaís dietary guidelines and is now based at the Australian Prevention Partnership Centre.


Oh dear even Professor Lee agrees with me.

People neednít worry about vitamins in general,
but some people do need them.† D and Magnesium are commonly in shortage due to diet and lifestyle.† Some women can especially be short on D, Iron and Calcium. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Don't believe me?
https://www.healthline.com/health/vitamin-deficiency-in-women#vitamin-b



You are absolutely correct!

Some of us have medical issues eg I have Thalassemia (minor). I need to take supplements.

And I eat a very healthy diet. I have to.

Why?

I donít enjoy B6 injections! Iím far happier with taking supplements plus maintaining a healthy diet thank you very much!

Bottom Line?

Be guided by your own medically qualified health professional.

Oh and for Godís sake....please ignore trolls like Groggy (who clearly has no idea)!


You have a medical condition.

People who don't ... don't need to be taking them.

It's the vast majority of people without medical conditions that take them thus making certain people filthy rich.

My GP (medically qualified health professional) advised me that under normal circumstances it's a waste of money.

My wife has a medical condition post cancer treatment that requires she take VitD & Calcium.

If not for her medical condition she wouldn't be taking it.


By the same token, I can't see why your wife wouldn't be advised to drink some milk and get out in the sun a bit.

I once believed in the benefits of vitamins, however, over the years I've come to the conclusion that they're a waste of money.
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