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Re: We dont need vitamin supplements
Reply #30 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 8:08am
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 5th, 2018 at 11:00am:
Grendel wrote on Aug 4th, 2018 at 7:47pm:
Some people actually do need supplements.




HooRAY !


SOMEONE'S given this a bit of thought

If you have a medical history as long as mine - you've probably had your fair share of dealing with "dieticians"

Don't get me WRONG
Lovely girls (they'll all women, for some reason) for the most part - but they're the people responsible for the "quality" of hospital food menus

Dieticians are NOT scientists, endocrinologists, medical specialists, general practitioners - or nurses
It might sound a bit harsh, but I see most "dieticians" as holding corn-flake packet qualifications

They are full of text-book responses - and "one-size-fits-all" solutions
I'm now confident - through experience - I can read my own body and know its needs better than any "qualified dietician" can




But I digress - and back to Grendal's point

I am short of a liver enzyme that stops me from storing vitamins B1 and B12
I was once injected with what should have been 30 years supply of B12
I became deficient, on a pathology test, after three weeks
My medical team have PRESCRIBED a daily "mega-dose" of vitamins B1 and B12

To the other extreme - I carry a dangerous overload of vitamin B6 (inability to metabolise)
I cannot touch a multi-vitamin - or any B group mixture
I even have to avoid B6 rich foods, such as spinach

Australian's have obeyed all those warnings on exposure to the sun
Like myself, around half of Australians are D3 deficient

https://www.webmd.com/diet/guide/vitamin-d-deficiency#1

I am ALSO on twice daily PRESCRIBED doses of D3


So it's the best specialist medical advice, I follow
Above "dieticians" and internet "wellness bloggers"




People without obvious health problems/medically treated conditions requiring it ...DO NOT NEED VITAMIN SUPPLEMENTS.

My GP told me years ago that we lead lives of "excess" not deficiency. That all vitamins do is change the colour & smell of your urine & cost your a fortune.

You get all you need from a reasonable diet.
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Re: We dont need vitamin supplements
Reply #31 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 9:36am
 
obviously from what's been written here the topic title is incorrect and what I wrote is.
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Re: We dont need vitamin supplements
Reply #32 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 9:39am
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 6th, 2018 at 6:19am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 5th, 2018 at 1:18pm:
Grendel wrote on Aug 5th, 2018 at 11:49am:
The topic says we don't need vitamin supplements.

But some of us do.

If you are a shift worker and do rotating shifts 24x7 it is very likely you are vitamin D deficient.  Especially if you've done it for a long time, 12 hour shifts may mean you never see the Sun for any length of time.

Water soluble vitamins cannot be stored in the body and we "pee" them away.  These need constant replenishment.

There is no guarantee that anyone eats a balanced enough diet to ensure all required vitamins are supplied to the body in the required quantities.  Supplementation helps this to be achieved.


We don't need vitamin supplements if we eat a healthy, balanced diet.


It's that simple.





If it were that "simple" , greggerypeccary - to access a "healthy, balanced diet" - we wouldn't be looking down the barrel of these figures






% Overweight/obese by state/territory


South Australia
65.8%

Western Australia
60.3%

Queensland
63.6%


Tasmania
67.5%

Australian Capital Territory
63.5%

Northern Territory
64.3%

New South Wales
63.2%

Victoria
63.3%


https://www.heartfoundation.org.au/about-us/what-we-do/heart-disease-in-australi...




It is that simple.

People just don't want to do it, that's all.

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Re: We dont need vitamin supplements
Reply #33 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 9:42am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 5th, 2018 at 4:39pm:
Grendel wrote on Aug 5th, 2018 at 3:31pm:
Run away TROLL and stop crossing out real facts people write moron.


We don't need vitamin supplements if we eat a healthy, balanced diet.


It's that simple.

Simple YES, well that would be YOU...
Run away TROLL and stop crossing out real facts people write moron.


No one said all people need supplements you dope. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Re: We dont need vitamin supplements
Reply #34 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 9:45am
 
Grendel wrote on Aug 6th, 2018 at 9:42am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 5th, 2018 at 4:39pm:
Grendel wrote on Aug 5th, 2018 at 3:31pm:
Run away TROLL and stop crossing out real facts people write moron.


We don't need vitamin supplements if we eat a healthy, balanced diet.


It's that simple.

Simple YES, well that would be YOU...
Run away TROLL and stop crossing out real facts people write moron.


No one said all people need supplements you dope. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


We don't need vitamin supplements if we eat a healthy, balanced diet.


It's that simple.
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Re: We dont need vitamin supplements
Reply #35 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 9:47am
 
FROM THE OP...

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“People needn’t worry about vitamins in general,” says Professor Amanda Lee, who chaired the group of experts who wrote Australia’s dietary guidelines and is now based at the Australian Prevention Partnership Centre.


Oh dear even Professor Lee agrees with me.

People needn’t worry about vitamins in general,
but some people do need them.  D and Magnesium are commonly in shortage due to diet and lifestyle.  Some women can especially be short on D, Iron and Calcium. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Don't believe me?
https://www.healthline.com/health/vitamin-deficiency-in-women#vitamin-b
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Re: We dont need vitamin supplements
Reply #36 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 9:49am
 
Grendel wrote on Aug 6th, 2018 at 9:47am:
FROM THE OP...

Quote:
“People needn’t worry about vitamins in general,” says Professor Amanda Lee, who chaired the group of experts who wrote Australia’s dietary guidelines and is now based at the Australian Prevention Partnership Centre.


Oh dear even Professor Lee agrees with me.

People needn’t worry about vitamins in general,
but some people do need them.  D and Magnesium are commonly in shortage due to diet and lifestyle.  Some women can especially be short on D, Iron and Calcium. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


We don't need vitamin supplements if we eat a healthy, balanced diet and live a healthy lifestyle.

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Re: We dont need vitamin supplements
Reply #37 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 9:51am
 
Wassup Troll?  ignorant deaf and blind?
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Re: We dont need vitamin supplements
Reply #38 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 9:53am
 
Grendel wrote on Aug 6th, 2018 at 9:51am:
Wassup Troll?  ignorant deaf and blind?


We don't need vitamin supplements if we eat a healthy, balanced diet and live a healthy lifestyle.

If you're low on a particular vitamin, adjust your diet and lifestyle.

It's pretty simple.
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Re: We dont need vitamin supplements
Reply #39 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 10:48am
 
magnesium and calcium are not vitamins. And yes, some people do need D supplements. Dark skinned people who live in cold climates for example.
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Re: We dont need vitamin supplements
Reply #40 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 10:49am
 
Grendel wrote on Aug 6th, 2018 at 9:51am:
Wassup Troll?  ignorant deaf and blind?
I think its having its monthly cycle.
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Reply #41 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 10:54am
 
Rhino wrote on Aug 6th, 2018 at 10:48am:
magnesium and calcium are not vitamins. And yes, some people do need D supplements. Dark skinned people who live in cold climates for example.


They only "need" them if they don't have a healthy, balanced diet and live a healthy lifestyle.

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Re: We dont need vitamin supplements
Reply #42 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 11:00am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 6th, 2018 at 10:54am:
Rhino wrote on Aug 6th, 2018 at 10:48am:
magnesium and calcium are not vitamins. And yes, some people do need D supplements. Dark skinned people who live in cold climates for example.


They only "need" them if they don't have a healthy, balanced diet and live a healthy lifestyle.

Personally i think you would do better to research what supplements to take to help with your PMS issues.
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Re: We dont need vitamin supplements
Reply #43 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 11:11am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 5th, 2018 at 3:56pm:
Grendel wrote on Aug 4th, 2018 at 7:47pm:
Some people actually do need supplements.


I had to take spirulina tablets nearly every day. I then cut back my dosage of tablets when I got better to about a couple every work day (once every 4 days). The problem is that I went somewhat constipated from the dehydrating nature of the tablets. But that was quickly remedied by mixing my diluted fruit juice with chia seeds. So, I had a double dose of health combining for a good detox.

Some guy at a nutrition shop told me not to take multivitamin tablets. Said that multivitamin tablets are so packet tightly inside capsules that you are more likely to excrete most of the capsule before you are likely to get any benefit from them.




Than that guy knows poo all about digestion.
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Re: We dont need vitamin supplements
Reply #44 - Aug 6th, 2018 at 11:13am
 
Grendel wrote on Aug 6th, 2018 at 9:47am:
FROM THE OP...

Quote:
“People needn’t worry about vitamins in general,” says Professor Amanda Lee, who chaired the group of experts who wrote Australia’s dietary guidelines and is now based at the Australian Prevention Partnership Centre.


Oh dear even Professor Lee agrees with me.

People needn’t worry about vitamins in general,
but some people do need them.  D and Magnesium are commonly in shortage due to diet and lifestyle.  Some women can especially be short on D, Iron and Calcium. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Don't believe me?
https://www.healthline.com/health/vitamin-deficiency-in-women#vitamin-b



You are absolutely correct!

Some of us have medical issues eg I have Thalassemia (minor). I need to take supplements.

And I eat a very healthy diet. I have to.

Why?

I don’t enjoy B6 injections! I’m far happier with taking supplements plus maintaining a healthy diet thank you very much!

Bottom Line?

Be guided by your own medically qualified health professional.

Oh and for God’s sake....please ignore trolls like Groggy (who clearly has no idea)!






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