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Reply #180 - Aug 25th, 2018 at 12:46am
 
When I was 18 years old, I was overwrought with work and university. I went from being a slightly overweight/healthy range 75kg high school student, to a 60kg university student who looked more PTSD than a returned serviceman. Having worked as a delivery driver in my late teens, I made the mistake of drinking sugary drinks too often, and not enough water. My muscles had atrophied to the point that I was a candidate for an extras role as a holocaust victim in some WW2 epic. But, by the time I got the idea that my sugary drinks I was using to 'rehydrate' my body, I had done more harm to myself than I ever could undo psychologically. It took the immediate change to drinking water as the drink of choice, before I could start making a recovery.

I can probably claim that the lack of foresight as an 18 year old that probably pushed me into diabetes. Though, I was not diagnosed as one until I was in my 30s. This topic certainly rings some memory bells for me.
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Reply #181 - Aug 25th, 2018 at 9:19pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 12:38am:
I guess I should have been more clear. The cells, being subjected to a bloodstream of high glucose levels over a long period of time, would not want to absorb glucose as there is an abundance of the stuff. Therefore, the receptors are not as active, citing a wealth of glucose that can later be absorbed. So the cells shuts off receiving more than necessary glucose, ie., it has got what it needs for now. The receptors are dependant on circumstances of physical activity to re-engage the cells ability to absorb the glucose.

Further to that point, the excess glucose either gets excreted or changed to body fat for storage for later reconversion into a glucose so that the cells can get the energy it needs, during times of fasting/starvation.

If what I wrote is correct, then it is something I have known for years.



No its not correct.

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Reply #182 - Aug 25th, 2018 at 10:46pm
 
I am going to watch another video on the topic. Perhaps that will make it perfectly clear for me.
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Reply #183 - Aug 27th, 2018 at 9:57am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 10:46pm:
I am going to watch another video on the topic. Perhaps that will make it perfectly clear for me.




How about a textbook or a referenced article?
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Reply #184 - Aug 27th, 2018 at 4:47pm
 
I can go to my QBD store and buy a book on the topic, to explain things further. It has been 14 years since diabetes was explained to me in thorough detail. Even your version of the topic has not had me recall considerable information about diabetes.
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Reply #185 - Aug 27th, 2018 at 5:46pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 4:47pm:
I can go to my QBD store and buy a book on the topic, to explain things further. It has been 14 years since diabetes was explained to me in thorough detail. Even your version of the topic has not had me recall considerable information about diabetes.



Mate I meant a proper textbook. E.g. Understanding pathophysiology. You wont get that from a QBD store.
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Reply #186 - Aug 27th, 2018 at 7:39pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 10:46pm:
I am going to watch another video on the topic. Perhaps that will make it perfectly clear for me.



UnSub,

Watch this video, if you can be bothered.

I do recommend it to you.

But some here, would say that my recommendation, is no recommendation.        Tongue




How Steve Lost 68 lbs in 5 Months and Has No Symptoms of Parkinson's, Diabetes, or Bipolar Disorder

261 mb!      26 min
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klCbBUwykG4





ADDENDUM;
Oh dear!   It looks like YT have taken that video down.    TOO BAD.
It was quite informative.

[i have a copy of it on my HD,      coz i d/loaded it.]



Q.
Is what we have learnt in this life [and believe] until now, always to be accepted as correct ?


Q.
Do you always trust experts [in any particular field of endeavour] ?


Q.
Should we trust experts [in any particular field of endeavour] ?


Q.
Why so ?



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Google;
it is wholly implausible that peptic ulcers can be caused by stomach bacteria

....prevailing medical experts, once insisted




"A little learning is a dangerous thing."
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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #187 - Aug 28th, 2018 at 2:03am
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 5:46pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 4:47pm:
I can go to my QBD store and buy a book on the topic, to explain things further. It has been 14 years since diabetes was explained to me in thorough detail. Even your version of the topic has not had me recall considerable information about diabetes.



Mate I meant a proper textbook. E.g. Understanding pathophysiology. You wont get that from a QBD store.


What is your favourite website on the topic that can explain diabetes?
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Reply #188 - Aug 28th, 2018 at 8:36am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 2:03am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 5:46pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 4:47pm:
I can go to my QBD store and buy a book on the topic, to explain things further. It has been 14 years since diabetes was explained to me in thorough detail. Even your version of the topic has not had me recall considerable information about diabetes.



Mate I meant a proper textbook. E.g. Understanding pathophysiology. You wont get that from a QBD store.


What is your favourite website on the topic that can explain diabetes?



None. Try an actual book. Referenced.
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Re: We dont need vitamin supplements
Reply #189 - Aug 28th, 2018 at 12:57pm
 
Yadda wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 7:39pm:
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I will always trust experts in a field over you tube videos.
To do otherwise would be insane
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Reply #190 - Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:46pm
 
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What is your favourite website on the topic that can explain diabetes?


None. Try an actual book. Referenced.


What is your favourite book on the topic that can explain diabetes?
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Reply #191 - Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:48pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:46pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 8:36am:
What is your favourite website on the topic that can explain diabetes?


None. Try an actual book. Referenced.


What is your favourite book on the topic that can explain diabetes? [/quote]



Well I would suggest Pathophysiology by Porth and Martini. But to prepare you I would suggest Fundamentals of Anatomy and Physiology by Martini Nath and Bartholomew.

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Reply #192 - Aug 28th, 2018 at 9:48pm
 
"Essentials of Pathophysiology" by Carol Porth is on order.  "Fundamentals of Anatomy and Physiology" also on order. Both for $62 total.
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