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Reply #165 - Aug 21st, 2018 at 4:10pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 21st, 2018 at 3:37pm:
Your explanation of T2DM is similar in information to the video that I watched on the topic. There is nothing wrong with having a diet that either reinvigorates the pancreas or keeps it healthy. Whatever glucose is not used for energy in the cells gets stored as fats. Which is why during a fasting period, the breakfast would allow the body to become more alert and active as the body has a receptive nature to a new energy source needed to work for the first 6 hours of the day. It is also the reason why the body needs no sugar and not to eat a few hours before bed to have an effective sleep. Drinking water helps flush/dilute the body of higher concentrations of glucose and allows the body to digest whatever food you have consumed over the last few hours. By morning, your body starts getting into a starvation mode until that breakfast restarts the daily process again.



And yet somehow after all that you still seem focused on the pancreas. And your explanation of dilution of blood glucose and digestion is way off.


Might I suggest just eating a healthy diet and doing exercise and ignoring all the other BS.
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Reply #166 - Aug 21st, 2018 at 4:14pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 21st, 2018 at 4:10pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 21st, 2018 at 3:37pm:
Your explanation of T2DM is similar in information to the video that I watched on the topic. There is nothing wrong with having a diet that either reinvigorates the pancreas or keeps it healthy. Whatever glucose is not used for energy in the cells gets stored as fats. Which is why during a fasting period, the breakfast would allow the body to become more alert and active as the body has a receptive nature to a new energy source needed to work for the first 6 hours of the day. It is also the reason why the body needs no sugar and not to eat a few hours before bed to have an effective sleep. Drinking water helps flush/dilute the body of higher concentrations of glucose and allows the body to digest whatever food you have consumed over the last few hours. By morning, your body starts getting into a starvation mode until that breakfast restarts the daily process again.



And yet somehow after all that you still seem focused on the pancreas. And your explanation of dilution of blood glucose and digestion is way off.


Might I suggest just eating a healthy diet and doing exercise and ignoring all the other BS.


Yes!

And, with a sensible diet, there's no need for hours of exercise a day.

Just walk to the shops more, take the stairs, etc.

Cut down on red meat (especially processed meats).

Include some brown/red rice in your diet, and some lentils now and then.

Avoid sausage rolls, chips, cans of coke etc.

It's really not that hard to do.

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Reply #167 - Aug 21st, 2018 at 9:58pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 21st, 2018 at 4:14pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 21st, 2018 at 4:10pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 21st, 2018 at 3:37pm:
Your explanation of T2DM is similar in information to the video that I watched on the topic. There is nothing wrong with having a diet that either reinvigorates the pancreas or keeps it healthy. Whatever glucose is not used for energy in the cells gets stored as fats. Which is why during a fasting period, the breakfast would allow the body to become more alert and active as the body has a receptive nature to a new energy source needed to work for the first 6 hours of the day. It is also the reason why the body needs no sugar and not to eat a few hours before bed to have an effective sleep. Drinking water helps flush/dilute the body of higher concentrations of glucose and allows the body to digest whatever food you have consumed over the last few hours. By morning, your body starts getting into a starvation mode until that breakfast restarts the daily process again.



And yet somehow after all that you still seem focused on the pancreas. And your explanation of dilution of blood glucose and digestion is way off.


Might I suggest just eating a healthy diet and doing exercise and ignoring all the other BS.


Yes!

And, with a sensible diet, there's no need for hours of exercise a day.

Just walk to the shops more, take the stairs, etc.

Cut down on red meat (especially processed meats).

Include some brown/red rice in your diet, and some lentils now and then.

Avoid sausage rolls, chips, cans of coke etc.

It's really not that hard to do.


I walk 5km a night, most nights of the week. Otherwise, it comes down to the work hours I do, which is quite physical much of the time. We might eat a healthy diet. But you need to exercise often enough to keep healthy.
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Reply #168 - Aug 21st, 2018 at 10:00pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 21st, 2018 at 4:10pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 21st, 2018 at 3:37pm:
Your explanation of T2DM is similar in information to the video that I watched on the topic. There is nothing wrong with having a diet that either reinvigorates the pancreas or keeps it healthy. Whatever glucose is not used for energy in the cells gets stored as fats. Which is why during a fasting period, the breakfast would allow the body to become more alert and active as the body has a receptive nature to a new energy source needed to work for the first 6 hours of the day. It is also the reason why the body needs no sugar and not to eat a few hours before bed to have an effective sleep. Drinking water helps flush/dilute the body of higher concentrations of glucose and allows the body to digest whatever food you have consumed over the last few hours. By morning, your body starts getting into a starvation mode until that breakfast restarts the daily process again.



And yet somehow after all that you still seem focused on the pancreas. And your explanation of dilution of blood glucose and digestion is way off.


Might I suggest just eating a healthy diet and doing exercise and ignoring all the other BS.


Healthy eating and exercise will counter diabetes quite well. But keeping a healthy pancreas is important as well.
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Reply #169 - Aug 22nd, 2018 at 4:08pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 21st, 2018 at 10:00pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 21st, 2018 at 4:10pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 21st, 2018 at 3:37pm:
Your explanation of T2DM is similar in information to the video that I watched on the topic. There is nothing wrong with having a diet that either reinvigorates the pancreas or keeps it healthy. Whatever glucose is not used for energy in the cells gets stored as fats. Which is why during a fasting period, the breakfast would allow the body to become more alert and active as the body has a receptive nature to a new energy source needed to work for the first 6 hours of the day. It is also the reason why the body needs no sugar and not to eat a few hours before bed to have an effective sleep. Drinking water helps flush/dilute the body of higher concentrations of glucose and allows the body to digest whatever food you have consumed over the last few hours. By morning, your body starts getting into a starvation mode until that breakfast restarts the daily process again.



And yet somehow after all that you still seem focused on the pancreas. And your explanation of dilution of blood glucose and digestion is way off.


Might I suggest just eating a healthy diet and doing exercise and ignoring all the other BS.


Healthy eating and exercise will counter diabetes quite well. But keeping a healthy pancreas is important as well.



How so? Since a healthy pancreas will do bugger all for your receptor response, which is the issue in Type 2 DM.
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Reply #170 - Aug 22nd, 2018 at 11:46pm
 
So, the issue you are saying is having a high glucose diet will mean that the cells will not receive the glucose in relative efficiency, irrespective of how well the pancreas works?
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Reply #171 - Aug 23rd, 2018 at 12:46am
 
I believe its commonly accepted medical knowledge that type 2 diabetes can be managed effectively by diet and exercise, whether this is considered a "cure" or not is largely irrelevant.
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Reply #172 - Aug 23rd, 2018 at 1:06am
 
I have heard of people who have undergone a low sugar diet, good exercise program to the point where they are basically cured of their type 2 diabetes. They could redevelop diabetes later if they lapse into a poor diet or lazy exercise.
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Reply #173 - Aug 23rd, 2018 at 1:59am
 
if your bodys out of balance you are gonna be susceptible to a lot of illness. High blood pressure, high cholesterol, all this lifestyle illness the big pharma companies making trillions peddling their quack treatments for, all you need is good diet and exercise.
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Reply #174 - Aug 23rd, 2018 at 10:06am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 22nd, 2018 at 11:46pm:
So, the issue you are saying is having a high glucose diet will mean that the cells will not receive the glucose in relative efficiency, irrespective of how well the pancreas works?


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Yes. What I have been saying all along while you keep banging on about irrelevant stuff.
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Reply #175 - Aug 23rd, 2018 at 11:53pm
 
What irrelevant stuff?
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Reply #176 - Aug 24th, 2018 at 9:50am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 11:53pm:
What irrelevant stuff?




Like a healthy pancreas, like all the other vitamins and weird poo you're trying.
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Reply #177 - Aug 24th, 2018 at 9:51am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 1:06am:
I have heard of people who have undergone a low sugar diet, good exercise program to the point where they are basically cured of their type 2 diabetes. They could redevelop diabetes later if they lapse into a poor diet or lazy exercise.




Yes, because exercise improves receptor response.
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Reply #178 - Aug 24th, 2018 at 2:04pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 22nd, 2018 at 11:46pm:
So, the issue you are saying is having a high glucose diet will mean that the cells will not receive the glucose in relative efficiency, irrespective of how well the pancreas works?




And not quite. The pancreas releases insulin in response to a high blood sugar level. Insulin acts as a signal to open the GLUT-4 transporter channel protein allowing glucose to enter certain cells (adipose and skeletal muscle in particular). Having chronically high blood glucose (and fats as well)) forces your pancreas to make more insulin as a result, but the receptor sensitivity drops.
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Reply #179 - Aug 25th, 2018 at 12:38am
 
I guess I should have been more clear. The cells, being subjected to a bloodstream of high glucose levels over a long period of time, would not want to absorb glucose as there is an abundance of the stuff. Therefore, the receptors are not as active, citing a wealth of glucose that can later be absorbed. So the cells shuts off receiving more than necessary glucose, ie., it has got what it needs for now. The receptors are dependant on circumstances of physical activity to re-engage the cells ability to absorb the glucose.

Further to that point, the excess glucose either gets excreted or changed to body fat for storage for later reconversion into a glucose so that the cells can get the energy it needs, during times of fasting/starvation.

If what I wrote is correct, then it is something I have known for years.
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