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We dont need vitamin supplements
Aug 4th, 2018 at 1:51pm
 
Every day, consumers are bombarded with warnings about their vitamin levels.

But the surprising truth, experts say, is it's very difficult to not get enough vitamins from your diet.

Vitamins make up just 13 of the thousands of chemicals and compounds in food. For good health, the message from experts is simple: stop worrying about them.

“People needn’t worry about vitamins in general,” says Professor Amanda Lee, who chaired the group of experts who wrote Australia’s dietary guidelines and is now based at the Australian Prevention Partnership Centre.

Half a glass of orange juice contains all the vitamin C you need. Eat two eggs for breakfast and a single carrot for dinner and you’ve just knocked over A and B12 as well.

“You really don’t need to eat much,” says Dr Yasmine Probst, a nutritionist at the University of Wollongong.

What about Vitamin D, which only comes from sunlight? In fact, our bodies can store it for up to six months, meaning we usually have plenty all through the winter.

That said, studies do suggest almost a quarter of Australians may have levels of vitamin D below recommended guidelines.

But, says Professor Lee, it’s possible recommended levels are way too high – and it’s not clear 'deficiency' is harmful.

Dr Probst put together a plate of food containing everything you’d need to get 100 per cent of every vitamin for investigative documentary Vitamania, which premieres this week at National Science Week.

There wasn’t much on the plate.

A handful of pecans, a tub of yoghurt, half an apple, a single carrot, a small portion of brown rice, a small amount of spinach, a serve of fresh salmon and a mango.

Eight items containing all the vitamins you need for an entire day.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/stop-worrying-about-vitamins-you-can-get-all-...

Of course the billion dollar vitamin supplements industry would have you believe differently
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Reply #1 - Aug 4th, 2018 at 2:35pm
 
Beer - Breakfast of Champions!  Full of good things...
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Reply #2 - Aug 4th, 2018 at 4:01pm
 
But berocca gives your fluro pee pee.
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Reply #3 - Aug 4th, 2018 at 4:11pm
 
you would only need vitamins if you have a bad diet...

and if thats you and you feel you need to start paying for vitamins...

then wake the **** up and change your diet..

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1530671802/30
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Reply #4 - Aug 4th, 2018 at 6:47pm
 

We don't need vitamin supplements.



The industry is an expensive con, imo.


TO MAINTAIN GOOD HEALTH, AND A STRONG IMMUNE SYSTEM;

Eat less [and better foods], if you are overweight.
Try and avoid frozen foods and foods which are hermetically sealed in a can.
Eat real nuts, real veggies, real fruits.
Try and avoid ALL processed foods [including ALL processed meats].



Yadda asks....
Q.
What is      'a flue vaccine' ?            Cool



google
what is the cause of congestion in the body

what is the cause of phlegm in the body

what is the cause of mucus in the body




If you search for it, you may find the truth.



Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1342132571/97#97
Quote:

I don't get sick.

Each winter, when my neighbours get colds and influenza, i don't

Why not ?

Because my immune system is strong [.....i would suppose].

70%-90% of my diet is uncooked, and unprocessed foods.





    DEFINITION of Toxemia and crises of Toxemia:--
    In the process of tissue building--metabolism--there is cell building [anabolism], and cell destruction [catabolism].
    The broken down tissue is toxic and in health--when nerve energy is normal--it is eliminated from the blood as fast as evolved.
    When nerve energy is dissipated, from any cause--physical or mental excitement or bad habits--the body becomes enervated, when enervated, elimination is checked, causing a retention of toxin in the blood or Toxemia.
    This accumulation of toxin when once established will continue until nerve energy is restored by removing the causes.
    So-called disease is nature's effort at eliminating the toxin from the blood.
    All so-called diseases are crises of Toxemia.
    J.  H.  TILDEN


Google...
"TOXEMIA EXPLAINED" pdf






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Reply #5 - Aug 4th, 2018 at 7:35pm
 
whats wrong with Frozen Vegetables?
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Reply #6 - Aug 4th, 2018 at 7:47pm
 
Some people actually do need supplements.
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Reply #7 - Aug 4th, 2018 at 9:04pm
 
The Mechanic wrote on Aug 4th, 2018 at 7:35pm:

whats wrong with Frozen Vegetables?




Frozen Vegetables....

Not fresh, not real,      processed.

We don't and can't know, how frozen vegetables have been handled, by who, and in what circumstances they have been processed.



Google;

imported frozen vegetables, listeria

frozen vegetables recalled from supermarkets


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Reply #8 - Aug 5th, 2018 at 11:00am
 
Grendel wrote on Aug 4th, 2018 at 7:47pm:
Some people actually do need supplements.




HooRAY !


SOMEONE'S given this a bit of thought

If you have a medical history as long as mine - you've probably had your fair share of dealing with "dieticians"

Don't get me WRONG
Lovely girls (they'll all women, for some reason) for the most part - but they're the people responsible for the "quality" of hospital food menus

Dieticians are NOT scientists, endocrinologists, medical specialists, general practitioners - or nurses
It might sound a bit harsh, but I see most "dieticians" as holding corn-flake packet qualifications

They are full of text-book responses - and "one-size-fits-all" solutions
I'm now confident - through experience - I can read my own body and know its needs better than any "qualified dietician" can




But I digress - and back to Grendal's point

I am short of a liver enzyme that stops me from storing vitamins B1 and B12
I was once injected with what should have been 30 years supply of B12
I became deficient, on a pathology test, after three weeks
My medical team have PRESCRIBED a daily "mega-dose" of vitamins B1 and B12

To the other extreme - I carry a dangerous overload of vitamin B6 (inability to metabolise)
I cannot touch a multi-vitamin - or any B group mixture
I even have to avoid B6 rich foods, such as spinach

Australian's have obeyed all those warnings on exposure to the sun
Like myself, around half of Australians are D3 deficient

https://www.webmd.com/diet/guide/vitamin-d-deficiency#1

I am ALSO on twice daily PRESCRIBED doses of D3


So it's the best specialist medical advice, I follow
Above "dieticians" and internet "wellness bloggers"









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Reply #9 - Aug 5th, 2018 at 11:27am
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 5th, 2018 at 11:00am:
Grendel wrote on Aug 4th, 2018 at 7:47pm:
Some people actually do need supplements.




HooRAY !


SOMEONE'S given this a bit of thought

If you have a medical history as long as mine - you've probably had your fair share of dealing with "dieticians"



That's different, you've got a medical condition Buzz.
This article is aimed at your average pill popper who believes the marketing hype that additional vitamins will give them "next level" nutrition.

It is a billion dollar industry which is largely unregulated. Tests on commercially available supplements have revealed wildly varying doses of the active ingredients. This can actually do you harm.

The necessary vitamins are easy to obtain in food (as the op confirms). Supplementing these will not improve your health.
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Reply #10 - Aug 5th, 2018 at 11:49am
 
The topic says we don't need vitamin supplements.

But some of us do.

If you are a shift worker and do rotating shifts 24x7 it is very likely you are vitamin D deficient.  Especially if you've done it for a long time, 12 hour shifts may mean you never see the Sun for any length of time.

Water soluble vitamins cannot be stored in the body and we "pee" them away.  These need constant replenishment.

There is no guarantee that anyone eats a balanced enough diet to ensure all required vitamins are supplied to the body in the required quantities.  Supplementation helps this to be achieved.
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Grendel wrote on Aug 5th, 2018 at 11:49am:
The topic says we don't need vitamin supplements.

But some of us do.

If you are a shift worker and do rotating shifts 24x7 it is very likely you are vitamin D deficient.  Especially if you've done it for a long time, 12 hour shifts may mean you never see the Sun for any length of time.

Water soluble vitamins cannot be stored in the body and we "pee" them away.  These need constant replenishment.

There is no guarantee that anyone eats a balanced enough diet to ensure all required vitamins are supplied to the body in the required quantities.  Supplementation helps this to be achieved.


Maybe you should read the opening post again. It is in fact VERY EASY to get all the vitamins you need from food.

You can even get the vitamin D you need from fish, dairy, beef and egg yolks, or in summer, from 10 minutes in the sun.

If you buy supplements you are peeing money down the toilet and helping Swisse and Blackmores make their multi million dollar profits 
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Reply #12 - Aug 5th, 2018 at 12:18pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Aug 5th, 2018 at 12:03pm:
Maybe you should read the opening post again.





... from a "dietician" and internet blogger - keen to lift their profile

Not from a highly qualified medical researcher




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Reply #13 - Aug 5th, 2018 at 12:23pm
 
Grendel wrote on Aug 5th, 2018 at 11:49am:
The topic says we don't need vitamin supplements.

But some of us do.

If you are a shift worker and do rotating shifts 24x7 it is very likely you are vitamin D deficient.  Especially if you've done it for a long time, 12 hour shifts may mean you never see the Sun for any length of time.

Water soluble vitamins cannot be stored in the body and we "pee" them away.  These need constant replenishment.

There is no guarantee that anyone eats a balanced enough diet to ensure all required vitamins are supplied to the body in the required quantities.  Supplementation helps this to be achieved.






… and THERE is a good example of a flawed "one size fits all" approach




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Reply #14 - Aug 5th, 2018 at 12:41pm
 
Gordon wrote on Aug 4th, 2018 at 4:00pm:
The_Barnacle wrote on Aug 4th, 2018 at 1:55pm:
Rhino wrote on Aug 4th, 2018 at 1:44pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 4th, 2018 at 12:08pm:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-03/queensland-hospitals-to-ban-junk-food-and-...

IMO its a good idea to get rid of that junk from hospitals however isnt it going a bit far to let the govt tell ppl what they can eat or drink?

Spot
They arent telling people what they can eat and drink, they are telling hospitals what they can sell. For goodness sake, if you dont like what they sell then dont buy it, use your free will man.


Exactly.
If you don't like what the hospital is selling then bring your own food. There is nothing stopping you doing that.


Done that. For the birth of both mine, my wife took one look at the slop being dished up, and I popped out and got her a lovely pad thai from just 15 mins walk away.

The hospital food was truly appalling.






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