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Reply #15 - Jul 29^th, 2018 at 11:26am

Unforgiven wrote on Jul 29^th, 2018 at 12:20am:

rhino wrote on Jul 29^th, 2018 at 12:00am:

Thats strange. Youve made an enormous amount of posts condemning all coppers as thugs now you are supporting their actions.

No right-wing extremists were harmed because the police stopped them fomenting conflict.

Yeah, because if a girl asks the 'vast majority peaceful Muslims' some questions who knows what violence those Muslims might feel compelled to do to her. The cops' fears are obviously based on long experience about just how little it takes for the 'vast majority etc' Muslims to go apeshite just by being spoken to by kuffar dogs. And so SHE is cautioned not the Musjms who are liable to disturb the peace by behaving violently.

So don't question muslims about Islam if you want peace. Shut up, keep away, accommodate. Thats how Islam is 'the religion of peace'. Its the peace of shut up or else.

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Reply #16 - Jul 29^th, 2018 at 11:27am

Unforgiven wrote on Jul 29^th, 2018 at 11:14am:

Lauren Southern is making money by being an instigator and provocateur of bigotry.

While she rakes it in the community is paying massive costs for police presence to prevent violence.

Lauren Southern should be made to pay the police costs.

https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/lauren-southerns-provocative-personality-has-always-been-there/news-story/50f1de0841f14f6837dada0c57a66ff1

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... Activists spread the word about the protest against the alt-right YouTube star through social media, encouraging people to “go and yell” at “rodents” Southern and fellow speaker Stefan Molyneux on their “hate speech tour” of Australia.

It comes after hundreds protested against Southern in Melbourne on Friday, with several protesters infiltrating the event and one rushing on stage to “attack” the speaker, screaming, “I love Muslims.”

Victoria Police said they had spent $68,000 on security and were “disappointed” the provocative event was taking officers away from their usual duties. ...

Participants at her shows paid between $79 and $740 to attend — the latter cost includes an “intimate dinner”.

What did the police need to do?

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Re: 100% proof that we don't have free speech
Reply #17 - Jul 29^th, 2018 at 12:26pm

stunspore wrote on Jul 29^th, 2018 at 8:33am:

Does free speech applies to using profanities with children?
Or saying provocative things to people with strong suicidal tendencies (like someone who is on top of the roof)?

It isn't a matter of someone saying something and we "choose" not to listen. It still gets into our ears, same as passive smoking. We have laws against pollution to our noses - we also should have laws against pollution to our ears. Do it in your backyard.

The right wing like to be selective with their free speech
For instance radical muslim clerics don't get the same rights

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The Right Wing only believe in free speech when they agree with what is being said.

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 114638 Melbourne Gender:	Re: 100% proof that we don't have free speech Reply #18 - Jul 29^th, 2018 at 12:34pm So there you have it - I didn't know that. We have Sharia law upheld by the police in Lakemba.
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Re: 100% proof that we don't have free speech
Reply #19 - Jul 29^th, 2018 at 12:40pm

Frank wrote on Jul 29^th, 2018 at 11:27am:

Unforgiven wrote on Jul 29^th, 2018 at 11:14am:

Lauren Southern is making money by being an instigator and provocateur of bigotry.

While she rakes it in the community is paying massive costs for police presence to prevent violence.

Lauren Southern should be made to pay the police costs.

https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/lauren-southerns-provocative-personality-has-always-been-there/news-story/50f1de0841f14f6837dada0c57a66ff1

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... Activists spread the word about the protest against the alt-right YouTube star through social media, encouraging people to “go and yell” at “rodents” Southern and fellow speaker Stefan Molyneux on their “hate speech tour” of Australia.

It comes after hundreds protested against Southern in Melbourne on Friday, with several protesters infiltrating the event and one rushing on stage to “attack” the speaker, screaming, “I love Muslims.”

Victoria Police said they had spent $68,000 on security and were “disappointed” the provocative event was taking officers away from their usual duties. ...

Participants at her shows paid between $79 and $740 to attend — the latter cost includes an “intimate dinner”.

What did the police need to do?

Prevent right wing cretins and knuckle draggers from fomenting violence.

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Re: 100% proof that we don't have free speech
Reply #20 - Jul 29^th, 2018 at 12:42pm

stunspore wrote on Jul 29^th, 2018 at 8:33am:

Does free speech applies to using profanities with children?
Or saying provocative things to people with strong suicidal tendencies (like someone who is on top of the roof)?

It isn't a matter of someone saying something and we "choose" not to listen. It still gets into our ears, same as passive smoking. We have laws against pollution to our noses - we also should have laws against pollution to our ears. Do it in your backyard.

Well then you don't support freedom of speech, it is as clear as that. All those things are (perhaps unfortunate) by-products of freedom of speech.

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Re: 100% proof that we don't have free speech
Reply #21 - Jul 29^th, 2018 at 12:43pm

Unforgiven wrote on Jul 29^th, 2018 at 12:40pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 29^th, 2018 at 11:27am:

Unforgiven wrote on Jul 29^th, 2018 at 11:14am:

Lauren Southern is making money by being an instigator and provocateur of bigotry.

While she rakes it in the community is paying massive costs for police presence to prevent violence.

Lauren Southern should be made to pay the police costs.

https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/lauren-southerns-provocative-personality-has-always-been-there/news-story/50f1de0841f14f6837dada0c57a66ff1

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... Activists spread the word about the protest against the alt-right YouTube star through social media, encouraging people to “go and yell” at “rodents” Southern and fellow speaker Stefan Molyneux on their “hate speech tour” of Australia.

It comes after hundreds protested against Southern in Melbourne on Friday, with several protesters infiltrating the event and one rushing on stage to “attack” the speaker, screaming, “I love Muslims.”

Victoria Police said they had spent $68,000 on security and were “disappointed” the provocative event was taking officers away from their usual duties. ...

Participants at her shows paid between $79 and $740 to attend — the latter cost includes an “intimate dinner”.

What did the police need to do?

Prevent right wing cretins and knuckle draggers from fomenting violence.

Rubbish - you're not even allowed to walk down the street in Lakemba unless you're a Muslim.

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Re: 100% proof that we don't have free speech
Reply #22 - Jul 29^th, 2018 at 12:43pm

Ajax wrote on Jul 29^th, 2018 at 10:56am:

matty wrote on Jul 28^th, 2018 at 11:06pm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqY4Z1fTrMc&feature=youtu.be

This here is literally unbelievable. Lauren Southern is forced by the police to not walk and exercise her right to freedom of speech in a suburb of Sydney. She is right, much of Sydney has indeed become Muslim land where Sharia law is practised. Much of Sydney's southwest and west has become like mini Middle East, and both the Coalition and Labor are allowing it.

Poke a stick at the faith and beliefs of any group and you'll get a bite.

I'ld like to see Lauren walk into a gay parade and tell them all their ways are a highway to hell.

I'm sure she would be hospitalized.

In fact poke a stick at Lauren Southern tell her she should be pregnant and bare foot in the kitchen I'm sure she would lock jaw.

She needs a lesson in respecting other people, so go back to your own country dear and stir up sh!t there, let the rest of the world get on with it.

Ditto what I said to stunspore.

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Reply #23 - Jul 29^th, 2018 at 12:44pm

Unforgiven wrote on Jul 29^th, 2018 at 11:14am:

Lauren Southern is making money by being an instigator and provocateur of bigotry.

While she rakes it in the community is paying massive costs for police presence to prevent violence.

Lauren Southern should be made to pay the police costs.

https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/lauren-southerns-provocative-personality-has-always-been-there/news-story/50f1de0841f14f6837dada0c57a66ff1

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... Activists spread the word about the protest against the alt-right YouTube star through social media, encouraging people to “go and yell” at “rodents” Southern and fellow speaker Stefan Molyneux on their “hate speech tour” of Australia.

It comes after hundreds protested against Southern in Melbourne on Friday, with several protesters infiltrating the event and one rushing on stage to “attack” the speaker, screaming, “I love Muslims.”

Victoria Police said they had spent $68,000 on security and were “disappointed” the provocative event was taking officers away from their usual duties. ...

Participants at her shows paid between $79 and $740 to attend — the latter cost includes an “intimate dinner”.

Wait, so those people who are causing the violence shouldn't pay the cost for their own violence? Huh

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Re: 100% proof that we don't have free speech
Reply #24 - Jul 29^th, 2018 at 12:45pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Jul 29^th, 2018 at 12:26pm:

stunspore wrote on Jul 29^th, 2018 at 8:33am:

Does free speech applies to using profanities with children?
Or saying provocative things to people with strong suicidal tendencies (like someone who is on top of the roof)?

It isn't a matter of someone saying something and we "choose" not to listen. It still gets into our ears, same as passive smoking. We have laws against pollution to our noses - we also should have laws against pollution to our ears. Do it in your backyard.

The right wing like to be selective with their free speech
For instance radical muslim clerics don't get the same rights

Who said that?

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Reply #25 - Jul 29^th, 2018 at 12:46pm

matty wrote on Jul 29^th, 2018 at 12:44pm:

Unforgiven wrote on Jul 29^th, 2018 at 11:14am:

Lauren Southern is making money by being an instigator and provocateur of bigotry.

While she rakes it in the community is paying massive costs for police presence to prevent violence.

Lauren Southern should be made to pay the police costs.

https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/lauren-southerns-provocative-personality-has-always-been-there/news-story/50f1de0841f14f6837dada0c57a66ff1

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... Activists spread the word about the protest against the alt-right YouTube star through social media, encouraging people to “go and yell” at “rodents” Southern and fellow speaker Stefan Molyneux on their “hate speech tour” of Australia.

It comes after hundreds protested against Southern in Melbourne on Friday, with several protesters infiltrating the event and one rushing on stage to “attack” the speaker, screaming, “I love Muslims.”

Victoria Police said they had spent $68,000 on security and were “disappointed” the provocative event was taking officers away from their usual duties. ...

Participants at her shows paid between $79 and $740 to attend — the latter cost includes an “intimate dinner”.

Wait, so those people who are causing the violence shouldn't pay the cost for their own violence? Huh

Nazis and right-wing terrorists?

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matty Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11055 East Sydney Gender:	Re: 100% proof that we don't have free speech Reply #26 - Jul 29^th, 2018 at 12:47pm Bobby. wrote on Jul 29^th, 2018 at 12:34pm: So there you have it - I didn't know that. We have Sharia law upheld by the police in Lakemba. And that is why we need to vote against Labor, the Coalition and the Greens, as all three are supporting or at least condoning it.
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Reply #27 - Jul 29^th, 2018 at 12:47pm

Unforgiven wrote on Jul 29^th, 2018 at 12:40pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 29^th, 2018 at 11:27am:

Unforgiven wrote on Jul 29^th, 2018 at 11:14am:

Lauren Southern is making money by being an instigator and provocateur of bigotry.

While she rakes it in the community is paying massive costs for police presence to prevent violence.

Lauren Southern should be made to pay the police costs.

https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/lauren-southerns-provocative-personality-has-always-been-there/news-story/50f1de0841f14f6837dada0c57a66ff1

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... Activists spread the word about the protest against the alt-right YouTube star through social media, encouraging people to “go and yell” at “rodents” Southern and fellow speaker Stefan Molyneux on their “hate speech tour” of Australia.

It comes after hundreds protested against Southern in Melbourne on Friday, with several protesters infiltrating the event and one rushing on stage to “attack” the speaker, screaming, “I love Muslims.”

Victoria Police said they had spent $68,000 on security and were “disappointed” the provocative event was taking officers away from their usual duties. ...

Participants at her shows paid between $79 and $740 to attend — the latter cost includes an “intimate dinner”.

What did the police need to do?

Prevent right wing cretins and knuckle draggers from fomenting violence.

Or stop left-wing bigots from actually causing violence.

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Reply #28 - Jul 29^th, 2018 at 12:48pm

matty wrote on Jul 29^th, 2018 at 12:47pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 29^th, 2018 at 12:34pm:

So there you have it - I didn't know that.

We have Sharia law upheld by the police in Lakemba.

And that is why we need to vote against Labor, the Coalition and the Greens, as all three are supporting or at least condoning it.

Perhaps Hitler could be resurrected or cloned to fill your needs.

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Reply #29 - Jul 29^th, 2018 at 12:49pm

Unforgiven wrote on Jul 29^th, 2018 at 12:46pm:

matty wrote on Jul 29^th, 2018 at 12:44pm:

Unforgiven wrote on Jul 29^th, 2018 at 11:14am:

Lauren Southern is making money by being an instigator and provocateur of bigotry.

While she rakes it in the community is paying massive costs for police presence to prevent violence.

Lauren Southern should be made to pay the police costs.

https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/lauren-southerns-provocative-personality-has-always-been-there/news-story/50f1de0841f14f6837dada0c57a66ff1

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... Activists spread the word about the protest against the alt-right YouTube star through social media, encouraging people to “go and yell” at “rodents” Southern and fellow speaker Stefan Molyneux on their “hate speech tour” of Australia.

It comes after hundreds protested against Southern in Melbourne on Friday, with several protesters infiltrating the event and one rushing on stage to “attack” the speaker, screaming, “I love Muslims.”

Victoria Police said they had spent $68,000 on security and were “disappointed” the provocative event was taking officers away from their usual duties. ...

Participants at her shows paid between $79 and $740 to attend — the latter cost includes an “intimate dinner”.

Wait, so those people who are causing the violence shouldn't pay the cost for their own violence? Huh

Nazis and right-wing terrorists?

Why is it that when someone from the right has rallies and talks, there a bunch of left-wing protesters who turn up to cause mayhem? Milo and Lauren are recent examples. Show me a left-wing rally where the same happens? At the so-called women's march, and all the other allies against Trump, for example, there were no right-wing protesters trying to disturb it.

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