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Question: DO YOU WANT DEATH TAXES?
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YES    
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NO    
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Total votes: 12
« Created by: President Elect, The Mechanic on: Jul 23rd, 2018 at 12:07pm »

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Jul 23rd, 2018 at 10:54am
 
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Pauline Hanson's Please Explain

It makes my blood boil when I hear Bill Shorten say he cares about workers. It's nothing but a lie!


Yesterday,
Union bosses with Bill Shorten's blessing told us Labor would like to reimplement a "Death Tax" or "Inheritance Tax" if Labor win the next election
.

I can't tell you how terrible this idea is!

Queensland was the first state to abolish 'Death Duties' under Joh Bjelke-Petersen when he was Premier. Since then, all states have followed and we haven't seen 'Death Duties' in Australia since 1979.

I'd be keen to hear from Union members on this.

Do you support a tax on whatever you leave behind for your family when you die?

How does everyone feel about losing half of their nett worth to Labor's Death Tax when they die?


Bill Shorten is like a scavenger picking from the carcass of society at the worse time in a families life with this idea
.


Don't Trust Labor and Bull Shitten...

Don't vote Labor and Bull Shitten...

Labor can't manage an economy and is the reason we have a massive debt...

the reason we still have massive debt is because Labor BLOCK any savings move...

The ordinary Australian can't make ends meat... they have NO MORE MONEY to give...

and now they want to empty our pockets from beyond our graves...  Angry

its sick...  Sad
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Re: Death Taxes...
Reply #1 - Jul 23rd, 2018 at 11:10am
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 23rd, 2018 at 10:54am:
Quote:

Pauline Hanson's Please Explain

It makes my blood boil when I hear Bill Shorten say he cares about workers. It's nothing but a lie!


Yesterday,
Union bosses with Bill Shorten's blessing told us Labor would like to reimplement a "Death Tax" or "Inheritance Tax" if Labor win the next election
.

I can't tell you how terrible this idea is!

Queensland was the first state to abolish 'Death Duties' under Joh Bjelke-Petersen when he was Premier. Since then, all states have followed and we haven't seen 'Death Duties' in Australia since 1979.

I'd be keen to hear from Union members on this.

Do you support a tax on whatever you leave behind for your family when you die?

How does everyone feel about losing half of their nett worth to Labor's Death Tax when they die?


Bill Shorten is like a scavenger picking from the carcass of society at the worse time in a families life with this idea
.


Don't Trust Labor and Bull Shitten...

Don't vote Labor and Bull Shitten...

Labor can't manage an economy and is the reason we have a massive debt...

the reason we still have massive debt is because Labor BLOCK any savings move...

The ordinary Australian can't make ends meat... they have NO MORE MONEY to give...

and now they want to empty our pockets from beyond our graves...  Angry

its sick...  Sad


They can't spell, either.

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Reply #2 - Jul 23rd, 2018 at 11:11am
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 23rd, 2018 at 10:54am:
The ordinary Australian can't make ends meat... they have NO MORE MONEY to give...

and now they want to empty our pockets from beyond our graves...  Angry

its sick...  Sad




Maybe if the ordinary Aussie could learn to recognise when to use meat and when to use meet.
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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Reply #3 - Jul 23rd, 2018 at 11:11am
 
who in the HELL would trust shortarse... hes an arsehole   even sold out the members of the union that paid his wages.... Angry Angry Angry Angry
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Reply #4 - Jul 23rd, 2018 at 11:12am
 
cods wrote on Jul 23rd, 2018 at 11:11am:
who in the HELL would trust shortarse... hes an arsehole   even sold out the members of the union that paid his wages.... Angry Angry Angry Angry


How did he do that?

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Reply #5 - Jul 23rd, 2018 at 11:12am
 
Most of the massive debt is due to the totally incompetent abbott & turdfull governments—and THEY did not have a GFC to cope with.
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Reply #6 - Jul 23rd, 2018 at 11:21am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 23rd, 2018 at 11:12am:
cods wrote on Jul 23rd, 2018 at 11:11am:
who in the HELL would trust shortarse... hes an arsehole   even sold out the members of the union that paid his wages.... Angry Angry Angry Angry


How did he do that?



https://www.facebook.com/PaulineHansonAu/videos/815000365370944/

When Bull Shitted was National Leader of the Australian Workers Union..

Target Workers lost over $55 in Penalty Rates...
David Jones Workers lost over $57
McDonalds Workers lost over $61

Good Work Bull Shitten - You couldn't give a stuff about the Australian workers...

a Vote for Bull Shitten is a vote for Slave Labor...

and now he wants to rob you from the Grave..

what a sick Bastard...  Angry
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Reply #7 - Jul 23rd, 2018 at 11:38am
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 23rd, 2018 at 11:21am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 23rd, 2018 at 11:12am:
cods wrote on Jul 23rd, 2018 at 11:11am:
who in the HELL would trust shortarse... hes an arsehole   even sold out the members of the union that paid his wages.... Angry Angry Angry Angry


How did he do that?



https://www.facebook.com/PaulineHansonAu/videos/815000365370944/

When Bull Shitted was National Leader of the Australian Workers Union..

Target Workers lost over $55 in Penalty Rates...
David Jones Workers lost over $57
McDonalds Workers lost over $61

Good Work Bull Shitten - You couldn't give a stuff about the Australian workers...

a Vote for Bull Shitten is a vote for Slave Labor...

and now he wants to rob you from the Grave..

what a sick Bastard...  Angry


Okay, time for a little lesson for The Mechanic.

Target and David Jones are retails stores.

As such, their Agreements are negotiated by the SDA Union, not the AWU.

And, Bill shorten has never worked for the SDA Union.

Secondly, McDonald's is a fast food outlet.

As such, their Agreements are negotiated by the SDA Union, not the AWU.

And, as you now know, Bill Shorten has never worked for the SDA Union.

And finally, Agreements can only be approved if they receive a successful "yes" vote from the employees it will cover (including non-union members).

Union Secretaries don't get to vote for the Agreements - only the employees do.

So, as you can see, you and cods were more than a little confused.

Hopefully my little lesson has cleared things up for you, though.
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Reply #8 - Jul 23rd, 2018 at 11:41am
 
Bill Shorten has been challenged to reveal any connection to allegations besetting his former union of fraudulent transactions and scams that boosted its political power by signing up phantom members. The Opposition Leader came under pressure in parliament for the second day running to reveal any knowledge of claims before the trade union royal commission that the Australian Workers Union was involved in sweetheart deals, ghost memberships and fraudulent accounting. Mr Shorten has refused to comment on events before the commission, saying he will not “provide a running commentary’’. Yesterday the commission heard fresh claims that Mr Shorten’s former union, led at the time by his political and industrial ally Cesar Melhem, doctored invoices to help conceal the fact that $225,000 was used to bolster memberships and the AWU’s influence on Labor’s conference... The pressure comes amid evidence in the commission that Mr Shorten had a relationship with the boss of a builder, Winslow Constructions, that had a long-time practice of paying union dues to the AWU on its workers’ behalf... Mr Shorten was a signatory to the 2004 enterprise bargaining agreement with Winslow Constructors... Mr Shorten testified at the Cole royal commission into unions in 2002 that the AWU did not receive money from ­employers to be deployed on memberships... The commission also heard the AWU had engaged in issuing more than $225,000 of sham invoices­ to Winslow, where Winslow was charged for “OH&S training” when in fact the charges had been membership fees for its employees... The commission heard evidence that Mr Melhem had direct­ly requested staff members to doctor invoices provided to Winslow. It heard that AWU financial controller Mei Lin received an email from AWU administration support officer Angela Leo requesting false entries be made to Winslow invoices. “Can you please organise an invoice for Winslow as per Cesar’ (sic) request below,” an email tendered said. “The amount is to be for $45,396.00 being 12 months membership for 97 members. Invoices are to be made out for Training/Red Card/OHS etc not Membership.”
Melhem is now a Victorian Labor MP. And this bit really stinks:
The Australian Worker's Union agreed to trade away casual workers' penalty rates in return for $75,000, in a deal that saved a subsidiary of the cleaning giant, Spotless Group, $2 million. Counsel assisting the trade union royal commission Jeremy Stoljar, SC, said the AWU's Victorian branch did a deal with Cleanevent in 2010, which meant the cleaner's largely casual workforce missed out on a large increase in penalty rates. "The short point is this: the benefit to Cleanevent from the [memorandum of understanding"> is that it saved a great deal of money it would otherwise have paid its employees, especially by way of penalty rates," Mr Stoljar told the inquiry on Thursday. In return, the AWU received $25,000 a year, for three years under a memorandum of understanding that was "doubtful" legally, and Cleanevent supplied lists of names of cleaners, who unknown to them, were entered into the union's membership roll. The deal saved the company an estimated $2 million a year in penalty rates in return for giving the union names of causal employees, which would artifically inflate membership numbers. Victorian MP Cesar Melhem was the then-AWU state secretary and was involved in the negotiations, in which Mr Stoljar alledges breached the Fair Work Act.



penalty rates are only the tip of ,the iceberg. Angry Angry
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Reply #9 - Jul 23rd, 2018 at 11:42am
 
nothing confused here sir!
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Reply #10 - Jul 23rd, 2018 at 11:43am
 
cods wrote on Jul 23rd, 2018 at 11:41am:
Bill Shorten has been challenged to reveal any connection to allegations besetting his former union of fraudulent transactions and scams that boosted its political power by signing up phantom members. The Opposition Leader came under pressure in parliament for the second day running to reveal any knowledge of claims before the trade union royal commission that the Australian Workers Union was involved in sweetheart deals, ghost memberships and fraudulent accounting. Mr Shorten has refused to comment on events before the commission, saying he will not “provide a running commentary’’. Yesterday the commission heard fresh claims that Mr Shorten’s former union, led at the time by his political and industrial ally Cesar Melhem, doctored invoices to help conceal the fact that $225,000 was used to bolster memberships and the AWU’s influence on Labor’s conference... The pressure comes amid evidence in the commission that Mr Shorten had a relationship with the boss of a builder, Winslow Constructions, that had a long-time practice of paying union dues to the AWU on its workers’ behalf... Mr Shorten was a signatory to the 2004 enterprise bargaining agreement with Winslow Constructors... Mr Shorten testified at the Cole royal commission into unions in 2002 that the AWU did not receive money from ­employers to be deployed on memberships... The commission also heard the AWU had engaged in issuing more than $225,000 of sham invoices­ to Winslow, where Winslow was charged for “OH&S training” when in fact the charges had been membership fees for its employees... The commission heard evidence that Mr Melhem had direct­ly requested staff members to doctor invoices provided to Winslow. It heard that AWU financial controller Mei Lin received an email from AWU administration support officer Angela Leo requesting false entries be made to Winslow invoices. “Can you please organise an invoice for Winslow as per Cesar’ (sic) request below,” an email tendered said. “The amount is to be for $45,396.00 being 12 months membership for 97 members. Invoices are to be made out for Training/Red Card/OHS etc not Membership.”
Melhem is now a Victorian Labor MP. And this bit really stinks:
The Australian Worker's Union agreed to trade away casual workers' penalty rates in return for $75,000, in a deal that saved a subsidiary of the cleaning giant, Spotless Group, $2 million. Counsel assisting the trade union royal commission Jeremy Stoljar, SC, said the AWU's Victorian branch did a deal with Cleanevent in 2010, which meant the cleaner's largely casual workforce missed out on a large increase in penalty rates. "The short point is this: the benefit to Cleanevent from the [memorandum of understanding"> is that it saved a great deal of money it would otherwise have paid its employees, especially by way of penalty rates," Mr Stoljar told the inquiry on Thursday. In return, the AWU received $25,000 a year, for three years under a memorandum of understanding that was "doubtful" legally, and Cleanevent supplied lists of names of cleaners, who unknown to them, were entered into the union's membership roll. The deal saved the company an estimated $2 million a year in penalty rates in return for giving the union names of causal employees, which would artifically inflate membership numbers. Victorian MP Cesar Melhem was the then-AWU state secretary and was involved in the negotiations, in which Mr Stoljar alledges breached the Fair Work Act.



penalty rates are only the tip of ,the iceberg. Angry Angry


Please pay attention.

Agreements can only be approved if they receive a successful "yes" vote from the employees it will cover (including non-union members).

Union Secretaries do NOT get to vote for the Agreements - only the employees do.
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Reply #11 - Jul 23rd, 2018 at 11:44am
 
Blah blah blah bill shorten blah. Seriously do we really want the death taxes back? Now the idea is out there anyone who gets in power is going to do it.

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Reply #12 - Jul 23rd, 2018 at 11:45am
 
cods wrote on Jul 23rd, 2018 at 11:42am:
nothing confused here sir!


Actually, you're very confused.

Target and David Jones are retails stores.

As such, their Agreements are negotiated by the SDA Union, not the AWU.

And, Bill shorten has never worked for the SDA Union.

Secondly, McDonald's is a fast food outlet.

As such, their Agreements are negotiated by the SDA Union, not the AWU.

And, as you now know, Bill Shorten has never worked for the SDA Union.

And finally, Agreements can only be approved if they receive a successful "yes" vote from the employees it will cover (including non-union members).

Union Secretaries do NOT get to vote for the Agreements - only the employees do.
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Reply #13 - Jul 23rd, 2018 at 11:45am
 
I dont thats for sure....   and I dont know anyone that does..

I expect this wont win him any votes... Smiley Smiley good!
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Reply #14 - Jul 23rd, 2018 at 11:48am
 
Cods, do you know who Stoljar was and what his then function was.  Did he prove his allegations?  Did the Royal Commission make any adverse findings again Shorten?
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