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Jul 21st, 2018 at 10:35am
 
Farmer jailed over fatal shooting of man after 'tripping on eggplant'


A Victorian farmer who said he tripped on an eggplant and accidentally shot and killed a man has been sentenced to five years' jail.

Angelo Russo, 55, pleaded guilty to manslaughter over the February 2017 death of David Calandro, 43, who was shot in front of his two young sons while sitting in his ute.

The shooting happened shortly after Mr Calandro's vehicle had hit and badly injured Russo's dog Harry at the latter's Tatura farm.

Both men knew each other and Mr Calandro had been at Russo's farm with his sons to pick some vegetables.

Russo had just put Harry out of his misery using a shotgun and was holding the firearm as he approached Mr Calandro's vehicle.

But he stumbled and hit the barrel of the gun on the driver's window.

The gun was faulty and unknown to Russo it could fire when bumped, which it did that day, fatally shooting Mr Calandro in the head.

Russo pleaded guilty to manslaughter and was sentenced in the Supreme Court on Friday to five years' jail with a minimum term of two-and-a-half years.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/farmer-who-fatally-shot-man-after-tripping-on-eggpla...

The judge was satisfied that the shooting was purely accidental, but this is another argument for tighter gun control.
The fewer people with guns the safer we all will be.
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Reply #1 - Jul 21st, 2018 at 11:22am
 
If it was accidental, why did he get 5 years?
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Reply #2 - Jul 21st, 2018 at 11:38am
 
freediver wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 11:22am:
If it was accidental, why did he get 5 years?


Because it was negligent
He was walking towards someone with a loaded gun pointed at them
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Reply #3 - Jul 21st, 2018 at 2:18pm
 
freediver wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 11:22am:
If it was accidental, why did he get 5 years?


Well, killing people is illegal in a lot of places these days.

Remember, though: aubergines don't kill people, people do.

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Reply #4 - Jul 21st, 2018 at 3:20pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 11:38am:
freediver wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 11:22am:
If it was accidental, why did he get 5 years?


Because it was negligent
He was walking towards someone with a loaded gun pointed at them


That is not stated in the Link.  This makes no sense.  If it was an accident......not guilty.  But, he entered a 'guilty' plea.  On the bare facts known from the Link, I say the Judge ought to have rejected that plea.
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Reply #5 - Jul 21st, 2018 at 3:42pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 10:35am:
Farmer jailed over fatal shooting of man after 'tripping on eggplant'


A Victorian farmer who said he tripped on an eggplant and accidentally shot and killed a man has been sentenced to five years' jail.

Angelo Russo, 55, pleaded guilty to manslaughter over the February 2017 death of David Calandro, 43, who was shot in front of his two young sons while sitting in his ute.

The shooting happened shortly after Mr Calandro's vehicle had hit and badly injured Russo's dog Harry at the latter's Tatura farm.

Both men knew each other and Mr Calandro had been at Russo's farm with his sons to pick some vegetables.

Russo had just put Harry out of his misery using a shotgun and was holding the firearm as he approached Mr Calandro's vehicle.

But he stumbled and hit the barrel of the gun on the driver's window.

The gun was faulty and unknown to Russo it could fire when bumped, which it did that day, fatally shooting Mr Calandro in the head.

Russo pleaded guilty to manslaughter and was sentenced in the Supreme Court on Friday to five years' jail with a minimum term of two-and-a-half years.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/farmer-who-fatally-shot-man-after-tripping-on-eggpla...

The judge was satisfied that the shooting was purely accidental, but this is another argument for tighter gun control.
The fewer people with guns the safer we all will be.



Sounds like he had a double barrel shotgun wasn't pointing it at anyone tripped and the gun discharged without the trigger being pulled.


It's not unprecedented for guns to accidentally fire the most common hunting rifle the Remington 700 was notorious for doing that.

Quote:
Popular Remington 700 rifle linked to potentially deadly defect

Thousands of gun owners claim Remington 700 rifles have fired without the trigger being pulled.

Now, with a class-action lawsuit and recall, why do most gun owners still have the controversial trigger?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/popular-remington-700-rifle-linked-to-potentially-d...



As for your Hoplophobic fearmongering there is no evidence to suggest having less guns makes us safer, our gun numbers have nearly doubled since 1996 while firearm deaths have declined.


New Zealand would have the closest culture to us they still allow all the guns we restricted in 1996, they have lower firearm homicide rate compared to us despite having over double the rate of firearm ownership

Quote:
Firearm homicide rate
Australia- 0.18 per 100K
New Zealand- 0.11 per 100K

Firearm ownership
Australia - 13.7 per 100 people
New Zealand- 30 per 100 people

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

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Reply #6 - Jul 22nd, 2018 at 11:38am
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 3:42pm:
Sounds like he had a double barrel shotgun wasn't pointing it at anyone tripped and the gun discharged without the trigger being pulled.

It's not unprecedented for guns to accidentally fire the most common hunting rifle the Remington 700 was notorious for doing that.



Well unless guns can shoot around corners it must have been held in the general direction of the victim otherwise he wouldn't have been shot.

I am aware that guns can accidentally discharge. In the US about 500 people are killed every year by unintentional shootings. Fortunately in Australia these figures are much lower (even on a per capita basis) due to our better gun laws and lack of a gun culture.
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Reply #7 - Jul 22nd, 2018 at 11:52am
 
Why wasn't the barrels of the shotgun open and pointing to the ground, why was it loaded....???

Accidental my arse, or did the neighbour disturb him while he was in the process of shooting...??
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Reply #8 - Jul 22nd, 2018 at 11:01pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Jul 22nd, 2018 at 11:38am:
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 3:42pm:
Sounds like he had a double barrel shotgun wasn't pointing it at anyone tripped and the gun discharged without the trigger being pulled.

It's not unprecedented for guns to accidentally fire the most common hunting rifle the Remington 700 was notorious for doing that.



Well unless guns can shoot around corners it must have been held in the general direction of the victim otherwise he wouldn't have been shot.

I am aware that guns can accidentally discharge. In the US about 500 people are killed every year by unintentional shootings. Fortunately in Australia these figures are much lower (even on a per capita basis) due to our better gun laws and lack of a gun culture.


There is a claim he tripped and fell so there is no evidence the shotgun was pointed at the victim until the offender tripped and fell.

If he had a pump action shotgun this might not have happened, after firing a shot the empty cartridge is still in the chamber until the pump action is cycled so much safer than a double or triple barrel shotgun.

For some reason we can have pump action rifles with 10 times the effective range of a shotgun that have 10 round magazines yet the bedwetters are frightened of low velocity short range pump action shotguns.
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Reply #9 - Jul 22nd, 2018 at 11:17pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 11:38am:
freediver wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 11:22am:
If it was accidental, why did he get 5 years?


Because it was negligent
He was walking towards someone with a loaded gun pointed at them


... and he 'accidentally' stuck it through the car window and shot a man.

Everybody knows you don't point a gun at anyone unless you mean to use it.

The trial was a farce.
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