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Bring back the Boats says the ACTU
Jul 20th, 2018 at 10:06am
 
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/unions-demand-bill-shorten-make-chang...

POWERFUL union leaders are set to demand Bill Shorten stops turning back people-smuggling operations at sea and ends offshore detention, putting pressure on the politician they helped elevate into the leadership.

The Daily Telegraph can reveal the final policy document of the ACTU, the unions’ peak body, voted on by all of its affiliated unions on Wednesday, calls for “an end to offshore solutions” that breach Australia’s international obligations under the UN Refugee Convention, along with stopping the practice of turning around boats full of illegal arrivals.

The ACTU confirmed this policy document will form the basis of a list of demands the unions will make on Mr Shorten at the ALP National Conference in December, ahead of the federal election.

“The offshore ‘processing’ system of asylum seekers in Nauru and Manus Island is discriminatory, and lacks transparency and independent oversight,” the ACTU congress policy document states.

SHARRI MARKSON: WHY SHORTEN IS BEHOLDEN TO UNIONS

“Congress rejects other policies of ‘deterrence’ implemented alongside offshore detention, especially intercepting and turning back boats at sea, or transferring refugees to other vessels for immediate return to their countries of origin without a proper assessment of their claims for protection.”

Mr Shorten’s alliance with several powerful unions, including the CFMMEU, Transport Workers Union, Health Services Union, Australian Workers Union and the Shoppies Union was a political strength that helped secure him the leadership.

But there are now growing concerns from Labor MPs, particularly from the Right faction, that Mr Shorten is under pressure to adopt left-wing social and economic policies to appease the unions that backed him into the leadership — and that will see him at odds with the Australian electorate.



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Reply #1 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 10:31am
 

“The offshore ‘processing’ system of asylum seekers in Nauru and Manus Island is discriminatory, and lacks transparency and independent oversight,” the ACTU congress policy document states.

Can't argue with that.

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Reply #2 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 10:49am
 
As I have been saying all along BackFlop Billy's top priorities are

RESTART the BOATS and

STEAL MONEY from the PENSIONERS and

INCREASE ELECTRICITY PRICES by 400% with his 50% renewable rubbish.

So who in their right mind would vote for the mongrel coalition of the union controlled Labor Party and the extremist Greenies ?

Should set the Lefties off.
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Reply #3 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 10:57am
 
juliar wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 10:49am:
As I have been saying all along BackFlop Billy's top priorities are

RESTART the BOATS and

STEAL MONEY from the PENSIONERS and

INCREASE ELECTRICITY PRICES by 400% with his 50% renewable rubbish.

So who in their right mind would vote for the mongrel coalition of the union controlled Labor Party and the extremist Greenies ?

Should set the Lefties off.


Yes, and we've been ignoring you all along.

Why did you say Labor is asking for "higher penalty rates", by the way?

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Reply #4 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 11:05am
 
Oh goody I have uncorked the gecko troll who is now ILLEGALLY MISQUOTING ANOTHER POSTER. Now a bit of the same.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 10:57am:
juliar wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 10:49am:
As I have been saying all along BackFlop Billy's top priorities are

RESTART the BOATS and

STEAL MONEY from the PENSIONERS and

INCREASE ELECTRICITY PRICES by 400% with his 50% renewable rubbish.

So who in their right mind would vote for the mongrel coalition of the union controlled Labor Party and the extremist Greenies ?

Should set the Lefties off.


Yes, and we've been ignoring you all along.

Why did you say Labor is asking for "higher penalty rates", by the way?



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Reply #5 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 11:10am
 
juliar wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 11:05am:
Oh goody I have uncorked the gecko troll who is now ILLEGALLY MISQUOTING ANOTHER POSTER. Now a bit of the same.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 10:57am:
juliar wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 10:49am:
As I have been saying all along BackFlop Billy's top priorities are

RESTART the BOATS and

STEAL MONEY from the PENSIONERS and

INCREASE ELECTRICITY PRICES by 400% with his 50% renewable rubbish.

So who in their right mind would vote for the mongrel coalition of the union controlled Labor Party and the extremist Greenies ?

Should set the Lefties off.


Yes, and we've been ignoring you all along.

Why did you say Labor is asking for "higher penalty rates", by the way?




Why did you say Labor is asking for "higher penalty rates"?
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Reply #6 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 11:11am
 
Be in not the slightest doubt this is what you would get under the union controlled Labor Party + Greenies


...
History would repeat itself


And THIS time the Black African Terrorists would ALSO enter Australia from the SOUTH as they transit via Commo Socialist controlled New Zealand helped by the Talking Horse.
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Reply #7 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 11:16am
 
The old gecko troll is off and running with the troll stuff pumping the union propaganda and enjoying all the unaccustomed attention. Go gecko go!!! Gosh this is fun!!!


greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 11:10am:
juliar wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 11:05am:
Oh goody I have uncorked the gecko troll who is now ILLEGALLY MISQUOTING ANOTHER POSTER. Now a bit of the same.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 10:57am:
juliar wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 10:49am:
As I have been saying all along BackFlop Billy's top priorities are

RESTART the BOATS and

STEAL MONEY from the PENSIONERS and

INCREASE ELECTRICITY PRICES by 400% with his 50% renewable rubbish.

So who in their right mind would vote for the mongrel coalition of the union controlled Labor Party and the extremist Greenies ?

Should set the Lefties off.


Yes, and we've been ignoring you all along.

Why did you say Labor is asking for "higher penalty rates", by the way?





Why did you say Labor is asking for "higher penalty rates"?

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Reply #8 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 11:20am
 
juliar wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 11:16am:
The old gecko troll is off and running with the troll stuff pumping the union propaganda and enjoying all the unaccustomed attention. Go gecko go!!! Gosh this is fun!!!


greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 11:10am:
juliar wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 11:05am:
Oh goody I have uncorked the gecko troll who is now ILLEGALLY MISQUOTING ANOTHER POSTER. Now a bit of the same.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 10:57am:
juliar wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 10:49am:
As I have been saying all along BackFlop Billy's top priorities are

RESTART the BOATS and

STEAL MONEY from the PENSIONERS and

INCREASE ELECTRICITY PRICES by 400% with his 50% renewable rubbish.

So who in their right mind would vote for the mongrel coalition of the union controlled Labor Party and the extremist Greenies ?

Should set the Lefties off.


Yes, and we've been ignoring you all along.

Why did you say Labor is asking for "higher penalty rates", by the way?




Why did you say Labor is asking for "higher penalty rates"?



Why did you say Labor is asking for "higher penalty rates"?
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Reply #9 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 11:30am
 
Labor love immigrants because they end up voting for Labor. End of story.
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Reply #10 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 11:35am
 
Gotta love the TROLL's destruction of a decent topic eh.

Nothing wrong with discrimination Gweggy.  We need more of it. Roll Eyes
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Reply #11 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 11:52am
 
Well Grendel tell the gecko troll to STOP ILLEGALLY MISQUOTING ANOTHER POSTER It is so simple.

His/her "posts" clearly incorrectly state a poster posted something that has been defiled and befouled - amounts to blog defamation!!!!


Even the CFMMEU is getting cold feet on letting illegals invade Australia as they know it is a MASSIVE election loser.



Behind the CFMMEU’s rightward drift on refugees
Zane Alcorn Melbourne June 14, 2018 Issue 1184 Australia

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A refugee rights protest outside the NSW ALP conference in Sydney in 2013.

At the recent Australian Labor Party Victorian state conference the Construction, Forestry, Maritime, Mining and Energy Union (CFMMEU) delegation voted with the Australian Workers’ Union (AWU), Shop, Distributive and Allied Employees' Association (SDA) and Labor’s Right faction to finish conference early.

This meant that several progressive motions, including on the right to strike, changing the date of Australia day, gender equality in superannuation and — notably — a motion calling for a Bill Shorten government to close the Manus Island and Nauru refugee detention centres within 90 days of being elected were not heard.

Read the twisted rest here

https://www.greenleft.org.au/content/behind-cfmmeus-rightward-drift-refugees
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Reply #12 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 12:11pm
 
Do you want this to happen again ?

Then DO NOT VOTE for the Union controlled Labor Party and the Greenies.


...
Row row your boat gently across the sea. The boats are queued up just waiting for the announcement "Labor wins the election!!!!".

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Reply #13 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 12:16pm
 
juliar wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 12:11pm:
Do you want this to happen again ?

Then DO NOT VOTE for the Union controlled Labor Party and the Greenies.



http://jcccsocietyandenvironment.pbworks.com/f/1445525707/121125-liberal-party-p...
Row row your boat gently across the sea. The boats are queued up just waiting for the announcement "Labor wins the election!!!!".



There's no such thing as an illegal boat.

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Reply #14 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 12:29pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 12:16pm:
juliar wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 12:11pm:
Do you want this to happen again ?

Then DO NOT VOTE for the Union controlled Labor Party and the Greenies.



http://jcccsocietyandenvironment.pbworks.com/f/1445525707/121125-liberal-party-p...
Row row your boat gently across the sea. The boats are queued up just waiting for the announcement "Labor wins the election!!!!".



There's no such thing as an illegal boat.


Why would Labor do something that the Australian public doesn't want? Aren't politicians supposed to follow the will of the people? That's dictatorship. And Labor wonders why they are on the nose and losing long term Labor voters.
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Reply #15 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 12:34pm
 
I feel like I am playing with a child. Then only a child's mind could not understand the danger of allowing Black African Terrorists into Australia.

...
The armada of illegals that will happen if Labor+Greenies ever gets in


greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 12:16pm:
juliar wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 12:11pm:
Do you want this to happen again ?

Then DO NOT VOTE for the Union controlled Labor Party and the Greenies.


http://jcccsocietyandenvironment.pbworks.com/f/1445525707/121125-liberal-party-p...
Row row your boat gently across the sea. The boats are queued up just waiting for the announcement "Labor wins the election!!!!".


There's no such thing as an illegal boat.


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Reply #16 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 12:40pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 12:29pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 12:16pm:
juliar wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 12:11pm:
Do you want this to happen again ?

Then DO NOT VOTE for the Union controlled Labor Party and the Greenies.



http://jcccsocietyandenvironment.pbworks.com/f/1445525707/121125-liberal-party-p...
Row row your boat gently across the sea. The boats are queued up just waiting for the announcement "Labor wins the election!!!!".



There's no such thing as an illegal boat.


Why would Labor do something that the Australian public doesn't want? Aren't politicians supposed to follow the will of the people? That's dictatorship. And Labor wonders why they are on the nose and losing long term Labor voters.


What are you talking about?
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Reply #17 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 1:14pm
 
Labor's battle cry, "Let the ILLEGALS ILLEGALLY INVADE AUSTRALIA!!!".

...
And what is Labor's immigration plan for Australia - Black African Terrorists by the boat load full every day non stop.

Australia will end up just like Melbourne - terrorized by Black African Terrorists who illegally invaded Australia helped and assisted by the anti-Australian union controlled Labor Party +Greenies.

SHY is eagerly waiting to be reinstated as Commander in Chief of the People Smugglers Illegal Invasion of Australia Armada.

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Reply #18 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 1:16pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 12:40pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 12:29pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 12:16pm:
juliar wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 12:11pm:
Do you want this to happen again ?

Then DO NOT VOTE for the Union controlled Labor Party and the Greenies.



http://jcccsocietyandenvironment.pbworks.com/f/1445525707/121125-liberal-party-p...
Row row your boat gently across the sea. The boats are queued up just waiting for the announcement "Labor wins the election!!!!".



There's no such thing as an illegal boat.


Why would Labor do something that the Australian public doesn't want? Aren't politicians supposed to follow the will of the people? That's dictatorship. And Labor wonders why they are on the nose and losing long term Labor voters.


What are you talking about?

The Australian people don't want open borders. Why would the unions and Labor encourage it? Tell me?
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Reply #19 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 1:19pm
 
Mr Hammer,

thank goodness for a fair dinkum Aussie who understands the FACTS.
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Reply #20 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 2:38pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 1:16pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 12:40pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 12:29pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 12:16pm:
juliar wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 12:11pm:
Do you want this to happen again ?

Then DO NOT VOTE for the Union controlled Labor Party and the Greenies.



http://jcccsocietyandenvironment.pbworks.com/f/1445525707/121125-liberal-party-p...
Row row your boat gently across the sea. The boats are queued up just waiting for the announcement "Labor wins the election!!!!".



There's no such thing as an illegal boat.


Why would Labor do something that the Australian public doesn't want? Aren't politicians supposed to follow the will of the people? That's dictatorship. And Labor wonders why they are on the nose and losing long term Labor voters.


What are you talking about?

The Australian people don't want open borders. Why would the unions and Labor encourage it? Tell me?


The unions and Labor don't want open borders either.

If you believe otherwise, you'll need to provide some proof.

And while you're looking for that proof (proof that doesn't exist, because it's quite simply a lie made up by ignorant bigots), you might want to read this:

"The combination of offshore processing and regional resettlement together with the policy of turning back boats has stopped the flow of vessels arriving on our shores. None could have succeeded in isolation but together they have ended a human tragedy.

"To ensure that people smugglers are denied the opportunity to offer any incentive to vulnerable people to board unsafe boats to make the dangerous journey to Australia by sea. Provided it can be done so safely, a future Labor Government will retain the option of turning boats around."


https://www.alp.org.au/asylumseekers

Over to you ...
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Reply #21 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 3:16pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 2:38pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 1:16pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 12:40pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 12:29pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 12:16pm:
juliar wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 12:11pm:
Do you want this to happen again ?

Then DO NOT VOTE for the Union controlled Labor Party and the Greenies.



http://jcccsocietyandenvironment.pbworks.com/f/1445525707/121125-liberal-party-p...
Row row your boat gently across the sea. The boats are queued up just waiting for the announcement "Labor wins the election!!!!".



There's no such thing as an illegal boat.


Why would Labor do something that the Australian public doesn't want? Aren't politicians supposed to follow the will of the people? That's dictatorship. And Labor wonders why they are on the nose and losing long term Labor voters.


What are you talking about?

The Australian people don't want open borders. Why would the unions and Labor encourage it? Tell me?


The unions and Labor don't want open borders either.

If you believe otherwise, you'll need to provide some proof.

And while you're looking for that proof (proof that doesn't exist, because it's quite simply a lie made up by ignorant bigots), you might want to read this:

"The combination of offshore processing and regional resettlement together with the policy of turning back boats has stopped the flow of vessels arriving on our shores. None could have succeeded in isolation but together they have ended a human tragedy.

"To ensure that people smugglers are denied the opportunity to offer any incentive to vulnerable people to board unsafe boats to make the dangerous journey to Australia by sea. Provided it can be done so safely, a future Labor Government will retain the option of turning boats around."


https://www.alp.org.au/asylumseekers

Over to you ...


juliar and Mr Hammer have dissappeared.

Surprise, surprise.

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Reply #22 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 3:44pm
 
If the boats are allowed free rein this Country will lose its identity and become forever more known as 'that sh.thole at the end of the world'
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red baron wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 3:44pm:
If the boats are allowed free rein this Country will lose its identity and become forever more known as 'that sh.thole at the end of the world'


Mr Hammer and juliar have given up, Red.

Perhaps you can help them find something from the Labor Party and/or the unions saying that they want the boats to have free rein.

Read this first, though:

"The combination of offshore processing and regional resettlement together with the policy of turning back boats has stopped the flow of vessels arriving on our shores. None could have succeeded in isolation but together they have ended a human tragedy.

"To ensure that people smugglers are denied the opportunity to offer any incentive to vulnerable people to board unsafe boats to make the dangerous journey to Australia by sea. Provided it can be done so safely, a future Labor Government will retain the option of turning boats around."

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Reply #24 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 4:32pm
 
juliar wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 1:19pm:
Mr Hammer,

thank goodness for a fair dinkum Aussie who understands the FACTS.

Thanks my friend.  Smiley
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Reply #25 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 4:35pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 3:50pm:
red baron wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 3:44pm:
If the boats are allowed free rein this Country will lose its identity and become forever more known as 'that sh.thole at the end of the world'


Mr Hammer and juliar have given up, Red.

Perhaps you can help them find something from the Labor Party and/or the unions saying that they want the boats to have free rein.

Read this first, though:

"The combination of offshore processing and regional resettlement together with the policy of turning back boats has stopped the flow of vessels arriving on our shores. None could have succeeded in isolation but together they have ended a human tragedy.

"To ensure that people smugglers are denied the opportunity to offer any incentive to vulnerable people to board unsafe boats to make the dangerous journey to Australia by sea. Provided it can be done so safely, a future Labor Government will retain the option of turning boats around."


Article- The Daily Telegraph can reveal the final policy document of the ACTU, the unions’ peak body, voted on by all of its affiliated unions on Wednesday, calls for “an end to offshore solutions” that breach Australia’s international obligations under the UN Refugee Convention, along with stopping the practice of turning around boats full of illegal arrivals.



Not turning boats around will encourage the smuggling trade Pecca. Sure as s hit.
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Reply #26 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 5:27pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 4:35pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 3:50pm:
red baron wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 3:44pm:
If the boats are allowed free rein this Country will lose its identity and become forever more known as 'that sh.thole at the end of the world'


Mr Hammer and juliar have given up, Red.

Perhaps you can help them find something from the Labor Party and/or the unions saying that they want the boats to have free rein.

Read this first, though:

"The combination of offshore processing and regional resettlement together with the policy of turning back boats has stopped the flow of vessels arriving on our shores. None could have succeeded in isolation but together they have ended a human tragedy.

"To ensure that people smugglers are denied the opportunity to offer any incentive to vulnerable people to board unsafe boats to make the dangerous journey to Australia by sea. Provided it can be done so safely, a future Labor Government will retain the option of turning boats around."


Article- The Daily Telegraph can reveal the final policy document of the ACTU, the unions’ peak body, voted on by all of its affiliated unions on Wednesday, calls for “an end to offshore solutions” that breach Australia’s international obligations under the UN Refugee Convention, along with stopping the practice of turning around boats full of illegal arrivals.



Not turning boats around will encourage the smuggling trade Pecca. Sure as s hit.



the Navy stopped one just last week Hammer... the people smugglers never give up..

I think they may have confused our by elections with a fed election....and they believe all the ltard crap... Wink Wink that Bill will be PM... Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #27 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 5:31pm
 
Well I guess its pretty clear now why I say Unions should stay out of Government and politics.

Best they stick to work and workers. Roll Eyes
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Reply #28 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 5:52pm
 
We should help (in partnership with our regional neighbours) set up several regional processing camps in countries like Indonesia and Malaysia were we can vet and select our humanitarian quota based on merit and need....There would be no need for asylum seekers to make the hazardous ocean journey and they would still have hope....It would also be much cheaper and more humane???

Huh Huh Huh
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Reply #29 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 9:27pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 11:30am:
Labor love immigrants because they end up voting for Labor. End of story.


In fact the opposite is more likely.


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Reply #30 - Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:17am
 
Dnarever wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 9:27pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 11:30am:
Labor love immigrants because they end up voting for Labor. End of story.


In fact the opposite is more likely.



Not really.  have you ever spoken to any?
I've spoken to many on election days setting up Labor voting stations and putting up posters etc.
Quote " I vote Labor because they let me come here"

In Plumpton where the local ALP Branch was full of Filipinos married to old men...  they all gave out how to votes and encouraged all Filipinos to vote Labor.  Since they then only took Labor paraphernalia you'd have to assume that's exactly what they did.
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Reply #31 - Jul 21st, 2018 at 7:03am
 
Grendel wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:17am:
Dnarever wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 9:27pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 11:30am:
Labor love immigrants because they end up voting for Labor. End of story.


In fact the opposite is more likely.



Not really.  have you ever spoken to any?
I've spoken to many on election days setting up Labor voting stations and putting up posters etc.
Quote " I vote Labor because they let me come here"

In Plumpton where the local ALP Branch was full of Filipinos married to old men...  they all gave out how to votes and encouraged all Filipinos to vote Labor.  Since they then only took Labor paraphernalia you'd have to assume that's exactly what they did.


Is this another of your I've got Muslim and gay friends storys  Roll Eyes
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Reply #32 - Jul 21st, 2018 at 7:41am
 
Its time wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 7:03am:
Grendel wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:17am:
Dnarever wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 9:27pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 11:30am:
Labor love immigrants because they end up voting for Labor. End of story.


In fact the opposite is more likely.



Not really.  have you ever spoken to any?
I've spoken to many on election days setting up Labor voting stations and putting up posters etc.
Quote " I vote Labor because they let me come here"

In Plumpton where the local ALP Branch was full of Filipinos married to old men...  they all gave out how to votes and encouraged all Filipinos to vote Labor.  Since they then only took Labor paraphernalia you'd have to assume that's exactly what they did.


Is this another of your I've got Muslim and gay friends storys  Roll Eyes


Now now, some of Grendel's best friends are Muslims, gays and mail-order brides.
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Reply #33 - Jul 21st, 2018 at 8:21am
 
Reuters: "More than a third of the world’s population, or 2.6 billion people, live in nations and territories gripped by repression, corruption and human rights abuses."

If we have an obligation to accept these populations, we have a right to depose their governments. We don't have either. Populations running away from these regimes, effectively, acquiesce to them.

I am not familiar with details of the often quoted "UN obligations," but I would be very surprised to find that it demanded we accept illegal entry.

Australian citizens do not confer on the elected the right to make agreements with the UN that open or weaken the boundaries that define that citizenship, or indulge in other radical demographic experiments.
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Reply #34 - Jul 21st, 2018 at 9:10am
 
issuevoter wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 8:21am:
Reuters: "More than a third of the world’s population, or 2.6 billion people, live in nations and territories gripped by repression, corruption and human rights abuses."

If we have an obligation to accept these populations, we have a right to depose their governments. We don't have either. Populations running away from these regimes, effectively, acquiesce to them.

I am not familiar with details of the often quoted "UN obligations," but I would be very surprised to find that it demanded we accept illegal entry.

Australian citizens do not confer on the elected the right to make agreements with the UN that open or weaken the boundaries that define that citizenship, or indulge in other radical demographic experiments.


Statistics can be manipulated....Out of the 2.6 billion people who live in nations and territories gripped by repression, corruption and human rights abuses only a fraction would be persecuted or abused....It is the minorities in these countries that flee and seek asylum in countries all over the world....I would call your claim dog whistling and fear mongering at best!!!

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Reply #35 - Jul 21st, 2018 at 9:12am
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 4:35pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 3:50pm:
red baron wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 3:44pm:
If the boats are allowed free rein this Country will lose its identity and become forever more known as 'that sh.thole at the end of the world'


Mr Hammer and juliar have given up, Red.

Perhaps you can help them find something from the Labor Party and/or the unions saying that they want the boats to have free rein.

Read this first, though:

"The combination of offshore processing and regional resettlement together with the policy of turning back boats has stopped the flow of vessels arriving on our shores. None could have succeeded in isolation but together they have ended a human tragedy.

"To ensure that people smugglers are denied the opportunity to offer any incentive to vulnerable people to board unsafe boats to make the dangerous journey to Australia by sea. Provided it can be done so safely, a future Labor Government will retain the option of turning boats around."


Article- The Daily Telegraph can reveal the final policy document of the ACTU, the unions’ peak body, voted on by all of its affiliated unions on Wednesday, calls for “an end to offshore solutions” that breach Australia’s international obligations under the UN Refugee Convention, along with stopping the practice of turning around boats full of illegal arrivals.



Not turning boats around will encourage the smuggling trade Pecca. Sure as s hit.


Directly from the Labor Party website:

"a future Labor Government will retain the option of turning boats around."

What part of that don't you understand?

I'm curious.
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Reply #36 - Jul 21st, 2018 at 10:00am
 
Its time wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 7:03am:
Grendel wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:17am:
Dnarever wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 9:27pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 11:30am:
Labor love immigrants because they end up voting for Labor. End of story.


In fact the opposite is more likely.



Not really.  have you ever spoken to any?
I've spoken to many on election days setting up Labor voting stations and putting up posters etc.
Quote " I vote Labor because they let me come here"

In Plumpton where the local ALP Branch was full of Filipinos married to old men...  they all gave out how to votes and encouraged all Filipinos to vote Labor.  Since they then only took Labor paraphernalia you'd have to assume that's exactly what they did.


Is this another of your I've got Muslim and gay friends storys  Roll Eyes

Did I mention Muslims?  No
Did I mention gays?  No
Its just another true story people like you can deny, but that won't make it any less true. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Don't you have any gay or muslim friends CFMMEU?
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Reply #37 - Jul 21st, 2018 at 10:03am
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 7:41am:
Its time wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 7:03am:
Grendel wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:17am:
Dnarever wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 9:27pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 11:30am:
Labor love immigrants because they end up voting for Labor. End of story.


In fact the opposite is more likely.



Not really.  have you ever spoken to any?
I've spoken to many on election days setting up Labor voting stations and putting up posters etc.
Quote " I vote Labor because they let me come here"

In Plumpton where the local ALP Branch was full of Filipinos married to old men...  they all gave out how to votes and encouraged all Filipinos to vote Labor.  Since they then only took Labor paraphernalia you'd have to assume that's exactly what they did.


Is this another of your I've got Muslim and gay friends storys  Roll Eyes


Now now, some of Grendel's best friends are Muslims, gays and mail-order brides.

Thanks Klownal, but I don't personally know any mail-order brides.
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Now I wonder Klownal if SET will be upset by both you and Lwhinger flaming me like the true trolls you are.
pity a mod didn't delete your crap so I didn't have to reply to it eh.
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cods wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 10:06am:
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/unions-demand-bill-shorten-make-chang...

POWERFUL union leaders are set to demand Bill Shorten stops turning back people-smuggling operations at sea and ends offshore detention, putting pressure on the politician they helped elevate into the leadership.

The Daily Telegraph can reveal the final policy document of the ACTU, the unions’ peak body, voted on by all of its affiliated unions on Wednesday, calls for “an end to offshore solutions” that breach Australia’s international obligations under the UN Refugee Convention, along with stopping the practice of turning around boats full of illegal arrivals.

The ACTU confirmed this policy document will form the basis of a list of demands the unions will make on Mr Shorten at the ALP National Conference in December, ahead of the federal election.

“The offshore ‘processing’ system of asylum seekers in Nauru and Manus Island is discriminatory, and lacks transparency and independent oversight,” the ACTU congress policy document states.

SHARRI MARKSON: WHY SHORTEN IS BEHOLDEN TO UNIONS

“Congress rejects other policies of ‘deterrence’ implemented alongside offshore detention, especially intercepting and turning back boats at sea, or transferring refugees to other vessels for immediate return to their countries of origin without a proper assessment of their claims for protection.”

Mr Shorten’s alliance with several powerful unions, including the CFMMEU, Transport Workers Union, Health Services Union, Australian Workers Union and the Shoppies Union was a political strength that helped secure him the leadership.

But there are now growing concerns from Labor MPs, particularly from the Right faction, that Mr Shorten is under pressure to adopt left-wing social and economic policies to appease the unions that backed him into the leadership — and that will see him at odds with the Australian electorate.

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Cods could lead by example by taking a boat back to the UK.
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Reply #40 - Jul 21st, 2018 at 2:07pm
 
Unforgiven wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 11:08am:
cods wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 10:06am:
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/unions-demand-bill-shorten-make-chang...

POWERFUL union leaders are set to demand Bill Shorten stops turning back people-smuggling operations at sea and ends offshore detention, putting pressure on the politician they helped elevate into the leadership.

The Daily Telegraph can reveal the final policy document of the ACTU, the unions’ peak body, voted on by all of its affiliated unions on Wednesday, calls for “an end to offshore solutions” that breach Australia’s international obligations under the UN Refugee Convention, along with stopping the practice of turning around boats full of illegal arrivals.

The ACTU confirmed this policy document will form the basis of a list of demands the unions will make on Mr Shorten at the ALP National Conference in December, ahead of the federal election.

“The offshore ‘processing’ system of asylum seekers in Nauru and Manus Island is discriminatory, and lacks transparency and independent oversight,” the ACTU congress policy document states.

SHARRI MARKSON: WHY SHORTEN IS BEHOLDEN TO UNIONS

“Congress rejects other policies of ‘deterrence’ implemented alongside offshore detention, especially intercepting and turning back boats at sea, or transferring refugees to other vessels for immediate return to their countries of origin without a proper assessment of their claims for protection.”

Mr Shorten’s alliance with several powerful unions, including the CFMMEU, Transport Workers Union, Health Services Union, Australian Workers Union and the Shoppies Union was a political strength that helped secure him the leadership.

But there are now growing concerns from Labor MPs, particularly from the Right faction, that Mr Shorten is under pressure to adopt left-wing social and economic policies to appease the unions that backed him into the leadership — and that will see him at odds with the Australian electorate.

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Cods could lead by example by taking a boat back to the UK.


I'll donate some money towards her ticket.

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Reply #41 - Jul 21st, 2018 at 3:10pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 10:05am:
Now I wonder Klownal if SET will be upset by both you and Lwhinger flaming me like the true trolls you are.
pity a mod didn't delete your crap so I didn't have to reply to it eh.
Yep...  it happens all the time day after day. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


It is metaphoric.....satire if you like....or in simpler terms.....taking the piss out of the stuff you have posted previously about know many poofs and Muslims you know well.

Gawd.

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Reply #42 - Jul 21st, 2018 at 3:29pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 3:10pm:
Grendel wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 10:05am:
Now I wonder Klownal if SET will be upset by both you and Lwhinger flaming me like the true trolls you are.
pity a mod didn't delete your crap so I didn't have to reply to it eh.
Yep...  it happens all the time day after day. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


It is metaphoric.....satire if you like....or in simpler terms.....taking the piss out of the stuff you have posted previously about know many poofs and Muslims you know well.

Gawd.

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Typical of you to choose to write this crap Aussie instead of post on topic, you seem to like Trolls and their behaviour and hate it when others point it out.

Stop making excuses, you'd never make a good mod let alone admin... Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

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Labor's TOP Priorities

RESTART the BOATS

STEAL MONEY from the PENSIONERS

INCREASE ELECTRICITY PRICES by 4 TIMES with their 50% renewable rubbish insanity



...
Little Shorty and the CFMMEU campaigning to LOSE the LONGMAN BY-ELECTION!!!!




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Reply #44 - Jul 23rd, 2018 at 12:55pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 10:31am:
“The offshore ‘processing’ system of asylum seekers in Nauru and Manus Island is discriminatory, and lacks transparency and independent oversight,” the ACTU congress policy document states.

Can't argue with that.




Well - what TRUE humanitarian COULD ?

Rather APPALINGLY -
"the right"
of Australian politics
(not that this matter should EVER have been made a political football of)
insist that imprisonment of refugees - in foreign is necessary to
"stop the boats"


Then on the other hand -
this government
insist that those seeking refuge in Australia from civil wars in their once homelands - are NOT
"being made an example of"









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buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 23rd, 2018 at 12:55pm:
Rather APPALINGLY - "the right"
of Australian politics (not that this matter should EVER have been made a political football of)
insist that imprisonment of refugees - in foreign is necessary to "stop the boats"


"On 19 July 2013 Rudd, Burke and Papua New Guinean Prime Minister Peter O'Neill announced the policy in Brisbane.[16] Rudd declared "From now on, any asylum seeker who arrives in Australia by boat will have no chance of being settled in Australia as refugees." In his speech, he said that asylum seekers taken to Christmas Island will be sent to Manus Island or elsewhere, where their refugee status will be assessed. The announcement also outlined plans to expand the Manus Island detention facility, from 600 occupants to 3,000."

source:wiki

First I heard Rudd was of the"right".

And Julia did start the Malaysian solution; albeit to be found illegal. But another offshore facility.
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Reply #46 - Jul 23rd, 2018 at 2:07pm
 
lee wrote on Jul 23rd, 2018 at 1:16pm:
buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 23rd, 2018 at 12:55pm:
Rather APPALINGLY - "the right"
of Australian politics (not that this matter should EVER have been made a political football of)
insist that imprisonment of refugees - in foreign is necessary to "stop the boats"


"On 19 July 2013 Rudd, Burke and Papua New Guinean Prime Minister Peter O'Neill announced the policy in Brisbane.[16] Rudd declared "From now on, any asylum seeker who arrives in Australia by boat will have no chance of being settled in Australia as refugees." In his speech, he said that asylum seekers taken to Christmas Island will be sent to Manus Island or elsewhere, where their refugee status will be assessed. The announcement also outlined plans to expand the Manus Island detention facility, from 600 occupants to 3,000."

source:wiki

First I heard Rudd was of the"right".

And Julia did start the Malaysian solution; albeit to be found illegal. But another offshore facility.




I'm just glad to hear a supporter of off-shore gulags for refugees seeking asylum in Australia, FINALLY concede it was the
Rudd Government
that
"stopped the boats"
- and NOT
Tony Abbot
- who always likes to perpetuate the great MYTH that he was responsible

Have a look at boat arrivals drastically decline after
Rudd
's release of his "New Guinea Solution" policy - which I always saw as a very cynical election policy


But you're right -
"the left"
can be equally inhumane, when it comes dog-whistling populism - and trying to grab the 5% Hanson vote





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Reply #47 - Jul 23rd, 2018 at 2:26pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 23rd, 2018 at 2:07pm:
I'm just glad to hear a supporter of off-shore gulags for refugees seeking asylum in Australia, FINALLY concede it was the Rudd Government
that "stopped the boats"
- and NOT Tony Abbot
- who always likes to perpetuate the great MYTH that he was responsible


Yeah. Well obtuseness is your major enemy.

Where have I ever said I support offshore processing?

Did he stop the boats? Rudd was no longer PM after 2010. Shoudn't the glory go to Julia?


Also look at the boat arrivals after September 2013 election loss.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-25/log-of-boat-arrivals-and-other-asylum-seek...
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Reply #48 - Jul 23rd, 2018 at 3:34pm
 
lee wrote on Jul 23rd, 2018 at 2:26pm:
Rudd was no longer PM after 2010.





Really ?

A federal election to determine the members of the 44th Parliament of Australia took place on
7 September 2013
.

The centre-right Liberal/National Coalition opposition led by
then-Opposition leader Tony Abbott of the Liberal Party of Australia
and Coalition partner the National Party of Australia, led by Warren Truss, defeated the incumbent centre-left Labor Party government of
Prime Minister Kevin Rudd



Are you OPPOSED to off-shore processing ?
My political profiling tells me OTHERWISE



You MAY "get the last word in" - per usual - but I WON'T be continuing a futile argument of "ideals" with an historic right-wing racist, bigot and climate change denier
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buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 23rd, 2018 at 3:34pm:
Really ?

A federal election to determine the members of the 44th Parliament of Australia took place on 7 September 2013
.



Yep. I was wrong he got a second gig.

So did you have a look at boat arrivals after 7 September? You don't say.

"May 2- 6, 2016      12      Returned to Sri Lanka
Unknown      Two boats, number of passengers not given      Returned to country of origin
27 July, 2014      157      Nauru
14, 19 Dec 2013      167 (on two boats)      Christmas Island
6 Dec-13 Dec      3      Unknown
29 Nov-6 Dec      185 (on four boats)      Christmas Island
27 Nov      9      Christmas Island
22 Nov      35      Christmas Island
10-11 Nov      163      Christmas Island, Darwin
21 Oct      40      Christmas Island
20 Oct      126      Christmas Island
17 Oct      41      Christmas Island
12 Oct      53      Christmas Island
12 Oct      79      Christmas Island (73 returned to Sri Lanka)
30 Sept      79      Christmas Island
26 Sept      70      Christmas Island
25 Sept      7      Returned to PNG
24 Sept      18      Darwin
22 Sept, 2013      31      Christmas Island
Total      Boats      Asylum seekers
18 Sept, 2013 to 31 July, 2014      23      1263"

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-25/log-of-boat-arrivals-and-other-asylum-seek...

So did he stop the boats back in July 2013?

buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 23rd, 2018 at 3:34pm:
Are you OPPOSED to off-shore processing ?
My poLitical profiling tells me OTHERWISE


That must be why they pay you the big bucks. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


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buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 23rd, 2018 at 3:34pm:
Really ?

A federal election to determine the members of the 44th Parliament of Australia took place on 7 September 2013
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Yep. I was wrong he got a second gig.




misinterpreted

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Quote:
Bring back the Boats says the ACTU


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Bring back the Boats says the Telegraph

Bring back the lies says the Telegraph
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Utter and complete rubbish - they simply said return to onshore processing by the same standards... rather than spending billions on offshore detention centres that reek of concentration camps.
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Gosh rtard Polly Waffle is smelling the fear coming from his armpits again - phew!!!


I suspect if the Coalition win at the by elections and Labor put the wheels in motion to replace Shorten that there will be an early election to capitalize on a virtually leaderless Labor! 

As I recall it takes the ALP 6 to 8 weeks to finalize a leadership ballot thanks to Rudd who put the process in place.

A government hasn't won a byelection against a sitting opposition member in over 100 years. This is a damning indictment of Labor and an extraordinary, and uncharacteristically honest, admission by Shorten.

Shorten's 50% RET and state Labor governments adopting the same green madness is why power prices are so high.

Renewables need fossil fuel generators to compensate for their unreliability, so why the rush to a flawed technology that does not meet our basic power needs? It's utter madness!

And an election winner for coal is good Malcolm.
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