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Welfare card not working
Jul 18th, 2018 at 8:56pm
 
Surprise surprise, the boongs are hopeless.
Anyone seen these lot in places like Ceduna or
or Pt Augusta and alike, I have, round em up and
send them Yalata to fend for themselves, bloody
hopeless lot.
A few of them are ok.
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Reply #1 - Jul 18th, 2018 at 9:26pm
 
Nobody really expected it to - it was just a neat little cash cow for a few insider mates... as usual... and in that sense was a spectacular success ....

Politicians are adept at devising ways of sucking away a few lazy billions from the treasury to feed their mates... plenty more where that came from......
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Reply #2 - Jul 18th, 2018 at 10:05pm
 
"The Federal Government is standing by its $18 million cashless welfare card trial, despite a report finding the evidence about its effectiveness is unreliable.

The Australian National Audit Office (ANAO) said although the trial was well implemented, there were major flaws in the data collection used to evaluate the scheme. "

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-18/cashless-welfare-audit-finds-monitoring-se...

So not a statement to say it isn't working.The results are unreliable.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 18th, 2018 at 9:26pm:
Nobody really expected it to - it was just a neat little cash cow for a few insider mates... as usual... and in that sense was a spectacular success ....



Of course it was. Who was it this time? Andrew Forrest again? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #3 - Jul 18th, 2018 at 10:12pm
 
Abbo husbands would wait for their wives to get the social security
money & then steal if from them to buy booze, drugs & ciggys.
Then their wife & kids would starve.

Then while drunk they would rape children.
Something had to be done.
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Reply #4 - Jul 18th, 2018 at 11:17pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 18th, 2018 at 10:12pm:
Abbo husbands would wait for their wives to get the social security
money & then steal if from them to buy booze, drugs & ciggys.
Then their wife & kids would starve.

Then while drunk they would rape children.
Something had to be done.

The muppets in Canberra could abolish involuntary unemployment and create enough jobs for everyone. It's not even that hard. They won't do this because giving everyone the means to support themselves through useful work doesn't suit the capitalist class. The capitalists prefer the status quo of artificially-maintained job scarcity and anti-unemployment propaganda to keep everyone else living in fear.
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We simply have to accept the facts that some species of the human race will never contribute, never amount to anything, will never be anything but parasites and just live with it.

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Valkie wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 6:11am:
We simply have to accept the facts that some species of the human race will never contribute, never amount to anything, will never be anything but parasites and just live with it.

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Reply #7 - Jul 19th, 2018 at 5:42pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 6:34am:
Valkie wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 6:11am:
We simply have to accept the facts that some species of the human race will never contribute, never amount to anything, will never be anything but parasites and just live with it.

You all know who I mean.
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Reply #8 - Jul 19th, 2018 at 5:51pm
 
Bam wrote on Jul 18th, 2018 at 11:17pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 18th, 2018 at 10:12pm:
Abbo husbands would wait for their wives to get the social security
money & then steal if from them to buy booze, drugs & ciggys.
Then their wife & kids would starve.

Then while drunk they would rape children.
Something had to be done.

The muppets in Canberra could abolish involuntary unemployment and create enough jobs for everyone. It's not even that hard. They won't do this because giving everyone the means to support themselves through useful work doesn't suit the capitalist class. The capitalists prefer the status quo of artificially-maintained job scarcity and anti-unemployment propaganda to keep everyone else living in fear.




I guess you have not seen the number of govt job advertisements directed at Aboriginal or Torres Straight Islanders ONLY   bam...

oh yes they have v=been doing that for a long time.....inn fact a friend of min worked VOLUNTARY in Perth  to train aboriginals  so they could apply for these "positions"..... like using the phone for instance...using a computer  it was nothing hard..

but she could only volunteer as the paid jobs went to .... you guessed it!   aboriginals....

there is an awful lot done for this minority group...yet somehow its always the govts fault.... Sad Sad

why doesnt anyone ask.. WHOS FAULT IS IT IT FAILED??... lets blame them instead....

unless of course you approve of a cripple being made and even bigger cripple.... Angry
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Reply #9 - Jul 19th, 2018 at 5:55pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 6:34am:
Valkie wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 6:11am:
We simply have to accept the facts that some species of the human race will never contribute, never amount to anything, will never be anything but parasites and just live with it.

You all know who I mean.
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people who group anything or anyone   all under the one umbrella are the most IGNORANT amongst us bobby....


shame they dont take a good look at that... Angry



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Reply #10 - Jul 19th, 2018 at 6:26pm
 
cods wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 5:55pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 6:34am:
Valkie wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 6:11am:
We simply have to accept the facts that some species of the human race will never contribute, never amount to anything, will never be anything but parasites and just live with it.

You all know who I mean.
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people who group anything or anyone   all under the one umbrella are the most IGNORANT amongst us bobby....


shame they dont take a good look at that... Angry




Go out to the places where the welfare card has been introduced and see with your own eyes which group of no hopers are the trouble makers, if you are game, nah, just remain in your cotton wool cocoon where you can criticize and feel all warm and fuzzy.
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Go out to the places where the welfare card has been introduced and see with your own eyes which group of no hopers are the trouble makers, if you are game, nah, just remain in your cotton wool cocoon where you can criticize and feel all warm and fuzzy.


You seem to be saying you are familiar with an area where this Card has been introduced.  You also seem to be saying that the Card does not work at all.
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Aussie wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 6:35pm:
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Go out to the places where the welfare card has been introduced and see with your own eyes which group of no hopers are the trouble makers, if you are game, nah, just remain in your cotton wool cocoon where you can criticize and feel all warm and fuzzy.


You seem to be saying you are familiar with an area where this Card has been introduced.  You also seem to be saying that the Card does not work at all. 

Yes I am familiar with an area and how can you help those who cannot help themselves.
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Reply #13 - Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:21pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:19pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 6:35pm:
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Go out to the places where the welfare card has been introduced and see with your own eyes which group of no hopers are the trouble makers, if you are game, nah, just remain in your cotton wool cocoon where you can criticize and feel all warm and fuzzy.


You seem to be saying you are familiar with an area where this Card has been introduced.  You also seem to be saying that the Card does not work at all. 

Yes I am familiar with an area and how can you help those who cannot help themselves.


Is the Card working (as intended) in that area?
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Reply #14 - Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:24pm
 
Valkie wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 5:42pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 6:34am:
Valkie wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 6:11am:
We simply have to accept the facts that some species of the human race will never contribute, never amount to anything, will never be anything but parasites and just live with it.

You all know who I mean.
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And a great many more are criminals, on the dole or in gaol.



I think you'll find that most of those Kiwis who are criminals are of Maori descent.
The jails over there are overflowing with Maoris.
Most Kiwis think of Australians as loud mouthed criminals.
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cods wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 5:55pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 6:34am:
Valkie wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 6:11am:
We simply have to accept the facts that some species of the human race will never contribute, never amount to anything, will never be anything but parasites and just live with it.

You all know who I mean.
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people who group anything or anyone   all under the one umbrella are the most IGNORANT amongst us bobby....
shame they dont take a good look at that... Angry



Valkie just needs to be educated.


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Valkie wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 5:42pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 6:34am:
Valkie wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 6:11am:
We simply have to accept the facts that some species of the human race will never contribute, never amount to anything, will never be anything but parasites and just live with it.

You all know who I mean.
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And a great many more are criminals, on the dole or in gaol.



I think you'll find that most of those Kiwis who are criminals are of Maori descent.
The jails over there are overflowing with Maoris.
Most Kiwis think of Australians as loud mouthed criminals.
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Reply #17 - Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:29pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:25pm:
cods wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 5:55pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 6:34am:
Valkie wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 6:11am:
We simply have to accept the facts that some species of the human race will never contribute, never amount to anything, will never be anything but parasites and just live with it.

You all know who I mean.
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people who group anything or anyone   all under the one umbrella are the most IGNORANT amongst us bobby....
shame they dont take a good look at that... Angry



Valkie just needs to be educated.



most of the nastiest comments in here come from ignorance and lack of education
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Agnes wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:29pm:
most of the nastiest comments in here come from ignorance and lack of education



Valkie needs to get out a bit more and meet some real New Zealanders.
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Aussie wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:21pm:
Johnnie wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:19pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 6:35pm:
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Go out to the places where the welfare card has been introduced and see with your own eyes which group of no hopers are the trouble makers, if you are game, nah, just remain in your cotton wool cocoon where you can criticize and feel all warm and fuzzy.


You seem to be saying you are familiar with an area where this Card has been introduced.  You also seem to be saying that the Card does not work at all. 

Yes I am familiar with an area and how can you help those who cannot help themselves.


Is the Card working (as intended) in that area?

Of course its not working, you think all the abbos have suddenly stopped drinking and have all gotten a job?
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Agnes wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:29pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:25pm:
cods wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 5:55pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 6:34am:
Valkie wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 6:11am:
We simply have to accept the facts that some species of the human race will never contribute, never amount to anything, will never be anything but parasites and just live with it.

You all know who I mean.
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people who group anything or anyone   all under the one umbrella are the most IGNORANT amongst us bobby....
shame they dont take a good look at that... Angry



Valkie just needs to be educated.



most of the nastiest comments in here come from ignorance and lack of education

What group of people cause the most problems in your neck of the woods Agnes? hmmm
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Bobby. wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:35pm:
Agnes wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:29pm:
most of the nastiest comments in here come from ignorance and lack of education



Valkie needs to get out a bit more and meet some real New Zealanders.


Ah, so you are a Kiwi bru?


Over here and beached iz, bru?
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Johnnie wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:47pm:
Agnes wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:29pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:25pm:
cods wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 5:55pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 6:34am:
Valkie wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 6:11am:
We simply have to accept the facts that some species of the human race will never contribute, never amount to anything, will never be anything but parasites and just live with it.

You all know who I mean.
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people who group anything or anyone   all under the one umbrella are the most IGNORANT amongst us bobby....
shame they dont take a good look at that... Angry



Valkie just needs to be educated.



most of the nastiest comments in here come from ignorance and lack of education

What group of people cause the most problems in your neck of the woods Agnes? hmmm




where I live its mostly AUSTRALIANS>.. Cheesy Cheesy the white ones.....I dont think they are all members of the same group/tribe though  just happen to have the  same skin tones......

a local
white
lunatic managed to get hold of a Policemans gun yesterday in our local hospitals triage ....4 shots were fired while they wrestled on the ground  they were in a room full of people!!!!! by sheer lucky no one was hurt by a bullet...... this person   already has a fair record  hes 26...thanks to bikies being allowed into ACT  we now have drive by shootings and the odd murder.. Sad Sad
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Setanta wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 10:45pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:35pm:
Agnes wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:29pm:
most of the nastiest comments in here come from ignorance and lack of education



Valkie needs to get out a bit more and meet some real New Zealanders.


Ah, so you are a Kiwi bru?


Over here and beached iz, bru?



I'm more like sir Les:



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Bobby. wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 11:50pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 10:45pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:35pm:
Agnes wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:29pm:
most of the nastiest comments in here come from ignorance and lack of education



Valkie needs to get out a bit more and meet some real New Zealanders.


Ah, so you are a Kiwi bru?


Over here and beached iz, bru?



I'm more like sir Les:





Bad suit, bad teeth, bad manners, no decorum and on his way to the Philippines, you know what I mean? Bobby! You wouldn't want to give the Turks the wrong idea, too close to Greece and you have a shaved face that would engender lustful thoughts in the wrong kind of men that would not know where Tassie is.

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Bobby. wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:26pm:
Valkie wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 5:42pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 6:34am:
Valkie wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 6:11am:
We simply have to accept the facts that some species of the human race will never contribute, never amount to anything, will never be anything but parasites and just live with it.

You all know who I mean.
Abbos
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And a great many more are criminals, on the dole or in gaol.



I think you'll find that most of those Kiwis who are criminals are of Maori descent.
The jails over there are overflowing with Maoris.
Not just there, here as well. High proportion of Maoris in prisons. Its an unfortunate fact that if Australia banned specifically Maori immigrants then the Australian crime rate would drop like a stone.

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Most Kiwis think of Australians as loud mouthed criminals.

Ironic isnt it?
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Setanta wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 12:02am:
Bad suit, bad teeth, bad manners, no decorum and on his way to the Philippines, you know what I mean? Bobby! You wouldn't want to give the Turks the wrong idea, too close to Greece and you have a shaved face that would engender lustful thoughts in the wrong kind of men that would not know where Tassie is.




But it lets you see how other people from distant countries view Australians.   Grin
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rhino wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 12:59am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:26pm:
Valkie wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 5:42pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 6:34am:
Valkie wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 6:11am:
We simply have to accept the facts that some species of the human race will never contribute, never amount to anything, will never be anything but parasites and just live with it.

You all know who I mean.
Abbos
Muzzos
New Zealanders
Politicians and a good percentage of public servants.



Many New Zealanders are highly educated &
work in top jobs in Australia.


And a great many more are criminals, on the dole or in gaol.



I think you'll find that most of those Kiwis who are criminals are of Maori descent.
The jails over there are overflowing with Maoris.
Not just there, here as well. High proportion of Maoris in prisons. Its an unfortunate fact that if Australia banned specifically Maori immigrants then the Australian crime rate would drop like a stone.

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Most Kiwis think of Australians as loud mouthed criminals.

Ironic isnt it?



It is ironic.
Unfortunately - political correctness would prevent Maoris from being
banned from coming here.
All Kiwis get tarred with the same brush.
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Reply #28 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 6:18pm
 
rhino wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 12:59am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:26pm:
Valkie wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 5:42pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 6:34am:
Valkie wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 6:11am:
We simply have to accept the facts that some species of the human race will never contribute, never amount to anything, will never be anything but parasites and just live with it.

You all know who I mean.
Abbos
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Politicians and a good percentage of public servants.



Many New Zealanders are highly educated &
work in top jobs in Australia.


And a great many more are criminals, on the dole or in gaol.



I think you'll find that most of those Kiwis who are criminals are of Maori descent.
The jails over there are overflowing with Maoris.
Not just there, here as well. High proportion of Maoris in prisons. Its an unfortunate fact that if Australia banned specifically Maori immigrants then the Australian crime rate would drop like a stone.

Quote:
Most Kiwis think of Australians as loud mouthed criminals.

Ironic isnt it?


And most Aussies wish all the Kiwi criminals in Australia were deported.

Plenty of loudmouthed Kiwis in the mix.
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Reply #29 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 7:31pm
 
Gnads wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 6:18pm:
rhino wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 12:59am:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:26pm:
Valkie wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 5:42pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 6:34am:
Valkie wrote on Jul 19th, 2018 at 6:11am:
We simply have to accept the facts that some species of the human race will never contribute, never amount to anything, will never be anything but parasites and just live with it.

You all know who I mean.
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Many New Zealanders are highly educated &
work in top jobs in Australia.


And a great many more are criminals, on the dole or in gaol.



I think you'll find that most of those Kiwis who are criminals are of Maori descent.
The jails over there are overflowing with Maoris.
Not just there, here as well. High proportion of Maoris in prisons. Its an unfortunate fact that if Australia banned specifically Maori immigrants then the Australian crime rate would drop like a stone.

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Most Kiwis think of Australians as loud mouthed criminals.

Ironic isnt it?


And most Aussies wish all the Kiwi criminals in Australia were deported.

Plenty of loudmouthed Kiwis in the mix.



We're all ANZACs mate - you know Gaylipoli.

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Bobby. wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 7:31pm:
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We simply have to accept the facts that some species of the human race will never contribute, never amount to anything, will never be anything but parasites and just live with it.

You all know who I mean.
Abbos
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Politicians and a good percentage of public servants.



Many New Zealanders are highly educated &
work in top jobs in Australia.


And a great many more are criminals, on the dole or in gaol.



I think you'll find that most of those Kiwis who are criminals are of Maori descent.
The jails over there are overflowing with Maoris.
Not just there, here as well. High proportion of Maoris in prisons. Its an unfortunate fact that if Australia banned specifically Maori immigrants then the Australian crime rate would drop like a stone.

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Most Kiwis think of Australians as loud mouthed criminals.

Ironic isnt it?


And most Aussies wish all the Kiwi criminals in Australia were deported.

Plenty of loudmouthed Kiwis in the mix.



We're all ANZACs mate - you know Gaylipoli.





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We all know this card is directed at the abbos, why is it that they are the way they are, one theory suggests that they are a direct descendant of the Neanderthal which would explain it.

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Johnnie wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:02am:
We all know this card is directed at the abbos, why is it that they are the way they are, one theory suggests that they are a direct descendant of the Neanderthal which would explain it.



Everyone out of Africa has up to 3% Neanderthal DNA, that includes you unless you are confessing to be a Bantu or something. Neanderthals were a very successful species, 200,000 years until others came along. They had bigger brains than us too.


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Setanta wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:09am:
Johnnie wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:02am:
We all know this card is directed at the abbos, why is it that they are the way they are, one theory suggests that they are a direct descendant of the Neanderthal which would explain it.



Everyone out of Africa has up to 3% Neanderthal DNA, that includes you unless you are confessing to be a Bantu or something. Neanderthals were a very successful species, 200,000 years until others came along.


True, but they were Neanderthals breeding with Neanderthals for 60,000yrs, or part thereof.
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Reply #34 - Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:19am
 
Johnnie wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:14am:
Setanta wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:09am:
Johnnie wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:02am:
We all know this card is directed at the abbos, why is it that they are the way they are, one theory suggests that they are a direct descendant of the Neanderthal which would explain it.



Everyone out of Africa has up to 3% Neanderthal DNA, that includes you unless you are confessing to be a Bantu or something. Neanderthals were a very successful species, 200,000 years until others came along.


True, but they were Neanderthals breeding with Neanderthals for 60,000yrs, or part thereof.


Their Neanderthal DNA component is no different to yours.
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Setanta wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:19am:
Johnnie wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:14am:
Setanta wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:09am:
Johnnie wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:02am:
We all know this card is directed at the abbos, why is it that they are the way they are, one theory suggests that they are a direct descendant of the Neanderthal which would explain it.



Everyone out of Africa has up to 3% Neanderthal DNA, that includes you unless you are confessing to be a Bantu or something. Neanderthals were a very successful species, 200,000 years until others came along.


True, but they were Neanderthals breeding with Neanderthals for 60,000yrs, or part thereof.


Their Neanderthal DNA component is no different to yours.

Yeah, they do look Neanderthal like though, something going on there.
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Reply #36 - Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:23am
 
Johnnie wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:22am:
Setanta wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:19am:
Johnnie wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:14am:
Setanta wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:09am:
Johnnie wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:02am:
We all know this card is directed at the abbos, why is it that they are the way they are, one theory suggests that they are a direct descendant of the Neanderthal which would explain it.



Everyone out of Africa has up to 3% Neanderthal DNA, that includes you unless you are confessing to be a Bantu or something. Neanderthals were a very successful species, 200,000 years until others came along.


True, but they were Neanderthals breeding with Neanderthals for 60,000yrs, or part thereof.


Their Neanderthal DNA component is no different to yours.

Yeah, they do look Neanderthal like though, something going on there.


I can see this is going nowhere.
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Setanta wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:19am:
Johnnie wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:14am:
Setanta wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:09am:
Johnnie wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:02am:
We all know this card is directed at the abbos, why is it that they are the way they are, one theory suggests that they are a direct descendant of the Neanderthal which would explain it.



Everyone out of Africa has up to 3% Neanderthal DNA, that includes you unless you are confessing to be a Bantu or something. Neanderthals were a very successful species, 200,000 years until others came along.


True, but they were Neanderthals breeding with Neanderthals for 60,000yrs, or part thereof.


Their Neanderthal DNA component is no different to yours.
Yes, it is. Aboriginal have a large component of Denisovian while Europeans and Asians have Neanderthal. Aboriginals have a much smaller amount of Neanderthal or none at all.
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rhino wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:43am:
Setanta wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:19am:
Johnnie wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:14am:
Setanta wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:09am:
Johnnie wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:02am:
We all know this card is directed at the abbos, why is it that they are the way they are, one theory suggests that they are a direct descendant of the Neanderthal which would explain it.



Everyone out of Africa has up to 3% Neanderthal DNA, that includes you unless you are confessing to be a Bantu or something. Neanderthals were a very successful species, 200,000 years until others came along.


True, but they were Neanderthals breeding with Neanderthals for 60,000yrs, or part thereof.


Their Neanderthal DNA component is no different to yours.
Yes, it is. Aboriginal have a large component of Denisovian while Europeans and Asians have Neanderthal. Aboriginals have a much smaller amount of Neanderthal or none at all.

Ah, so its a lack of Neanderthal which is the problem.
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rhino wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:43am:
Setanta wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:19am:
Johnnie wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:14am:
Setanta wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:09am:
Johnnie wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:02am:
We all know this card is directed at the abbos, why is it that they are the way they are, one theory suggests that they are a direct descendant of the Neanderthal which would explain it.



Everyone out of Africa has up to 3% Neanderthal DNA, that includes you unless you are confessing to be a Bantu or something. Neanderthals were a very successful species, 200,000 years until others came along.


True, but they were Neanderthals breeding with Neanderthals for 60,000yrs, or part thereof.


Their Neanderthal DNA component is no different to yours.
Yes, it is. Aboriginal have a large component of Denisovian while Europeans and Asians have Neanderthal. Aboriginals have a much smaller amount of Neanderthal or none at all.


I believe Asians are the ones the one with the Denisovian DNA. Europeans skipped this DNA as it was in Asia, aboriginals coming through that part of the world getting here got some. I'm not a geneticist but that is what I understand from reading. Everyone that is not African has Neanderthal DNA. Those that travelled through Asia picked up Denisovan DNA.

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Reply #40 - Jul 21st, 2018 at 1:33am
 
Johnnie wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:46am:
rhino wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:43am:
Setanta wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:19am:
Johnnie wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:14am:
Setanta wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:09am:
Johnnie wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:02am:
We all know this card is directed at the abbos, why is it that they are the way they are, one theory suggests that they are a direct descendant of the Neanderthal which would explain it.



Everyone out of Africa has up to 3% Neanderthal DNA, that includes you unless you are confessing to be a Bantu or something. Neanderthals were a very successful species, 200,000 years until others came along.


True, but they were Neanderthals breeding with Neanderthals for 60,000yrs, or part thereof.


Their Neanderthal DNA component is no different to yours.
Yes, it is. Aboriginal have a large component of Denisovian while Europeans and Asians have Neanderthal. Aboriginals have a much smaller amount of Neanderthal or none at all.

Ah, so its a lack of Neanderthal which is the problem.


I would say it's cultural rather than genetic. Their culture and ours do not mesh. One of them will lose out in the end. History says the hunter/gatherer will lose.

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Reply #41 - Jul 21st, 2018 at 1:47am
 
Setanta wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 1:33am:
Johnnie wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:46am:
rhino wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:43am:
Setanta wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:19am:
Johnnie wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:14am:
Setanta wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:09am:
Johnnie wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:02am:
We all know this card is directed at the abbos, why is it that they are the way they are, one theory suggests that they are a direct descendant of the Neanderthal which would explain it.



Everyone out of Africa has up to 3% Neanderthal DNA, that includes you unless you are confessing to be a Bantu or something. Neanderthals were a very successful species, 200,000 years until others came along.


True, but they were Neanderthals breeding with Neanderthals for 60,000yrs, or part thereof.


Their Neanderthal DNA component is no different to yours.
Yes, it is. Aboriginal have a large component of Denisovian while Europeans and Asians have Neanderthal. Aboriginals have a much smaller amount of Neanderthal or none at all.

Ah, so its a lack of Neanderthal which is the problem.


I would say it's cultural rather than genetic. Their culture and ours do not mesh. One of them will lose out in the end. History says the hunter/gatherer will lose.


They still look primitive, its the forehead jaw nose etc, so why are they the ones the welfare cards are directed at, don't give me that culture bs, are they able to adapt any time soon or will it take millennium.
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Setanta wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 1:33am:
Johnnie wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:46am:
rhino wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:43am:
Setanta wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:19am:
Johnnie wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:14am:
Setanta wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:09am:
Johnnie wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:02am:
We all know this card is directed at the abbos, why is it that they are the way they are, one theory suggests that they are a direct descendant of the Neanderthal which would explain it.



Everyone out of Africa has up to 3% Neanderthal DNA, that includes you unless you are confessing to be a Bantu or something. Neanderthals were a very successful species, 200,000 years until others came along.


True, but they were Neanderthals breeding with Neanderthals for 60,000yrs, or part thereof.


Their Neanderthal DNA component is no different to yours.
Yes, it is. Aboriginal have a large component of Denisovian while Europeans and Asians have Neanderthal. Aboriginals have a much smaller amount of Neanderthal or none at all.

Ah, so its a lack of Neanderthal which is the problem.


I would say it's cultural rather than genetic. Their culture and ours do not mesh. One of them will lose out in the end. History says the hunter/gatherer will lose.



Inferior subspecies, innit.
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Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 7:35am:
Setanta wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 1:33am:
Johnnie wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:46am:
rhino wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:43am:
Setanta wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:19am:
Johnnie wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:14am:
Setanta wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:09am:
Johnnie wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:02am:
We all know this card is directed at the abbos, why is it that they are the way they are, one theory suggests that they are a direct descendant of the Neanderthal which would explain it.



Everyone out of Africa has up to 3% Neanderthal DNA, that includes you unless you are confessing to be a Bantu or something. Neanderthals were a very successful species, 200,000 years until others came along.


True, but they were Neanderthals breeding with Neanderthals for 60,000yrs, or part thereof.


Their Neanderthal DNA component is no different to yours.
Yes, it is. Aboriginal have a large component of Denisovian while Europeans and Asians have Neanderthal. Aboriginals have a much smaller amount of Neanderthal or none at all.

Ah, so its a lack of Neanderthal which is the problem.


I would say it's cultural rather than genetic. Their culture and ours do not mesh. One of them will lose out in the end. History says the hunter/gatherer will lose.



Inferior subspecies, innit.


Yeah - I noticed Sam Thaiday couldn't hold up his end of the game last night.... but then Sam is very white for a blackfella... and chasing a commentator spot after he retires... so he's gotta be pretty white... forget about Stan The Man and the Phantom Suntan...
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Setanta wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:53am:
rhino wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:43am:
Setanta wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:19am:
Johnnie wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:14am:
Setanta wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:09am:
Johnnie wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:02am:
We all know this card is directed at the abbos, why is it that they are the way they are, one theory suggests that they are a direct descendant of the Neanderthal which would explain it.



Everyone out of Africa has up to 3% Neanderthal DNA, that includes you unless you are confessing to be a Bantu or something. Neanderthals were a very successful species, 200,000 years until others came along.


True, but they were Neanderthals breeding with Neanderthals for 60,000yrs, or part thereof.


Their Neanderthal DNA component is no different to yours.
Yes, it is. Aboriginal have a large component of Denisovian while Europeans and Asians have Neanderthal. Aboriginals have a much smaller amount of Neanderthal or none at all.


I believe Asians are the ones the one with the Denisovian DNA. Europeans skipped this DNA as it was in Asia, aboriginals coming through that part of the world getting here got some. I'm not a geneticist but that is what I understand from reading. Everyone that is not African has Neanderthal DNA. Those that travelled through Asia picked up Denisovan DNA.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Spread_and_evolution_o...
These are the groups with Denisovan genetics, aisans have the lowest amount, 0.2. Aboriginals can have up to 6.0
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Tests comparing the Denisova hominin genome with those of six modern humans – a ǃKung from South Africa, a Nigerian, a Frenchman, a Papua New Guinean, a Bougainville Islander and a Han Chinese – showed that between 4% and 6% of the genome of Melanesians (represented by the Papua New Guinean and Bougainville Islander) derives from a Denisovan population; a later study puts the amount at 1.11% (with an additional contribution from some different and yet unknown ancestor).[38] This DNA was possibly introduced during the early migration to Melanesia. These findings are in concordance with the results of other comparison tests which show a relative increase in allele sharing between the Denisovan and the Aboriginal Australian genome, compared to other Eurasians and African populations; however, it has been observed that Papuans, the population of Papua New Guinea, have more allele sharing than Aboriginal Australians.[39]

Melanesians are not the only modern-day descendants of Denisovans. David Reich of Harvard University, in collaboration with Mark Stoneking of the Planck Institute team, found genetic evidence that Denisovan ancestry is shared also by Australian Aborigines, and smaller scattered groups of people in South-East Asia, such as the Mamanwa, a Negrito people in the Philippines though not all Negritos were found to possess Denisovan genes; Onge Andaman Islanders and Malaysian Jehai, for example, were found to have no significant Denisovan inheritance. These data place the interbreeding event in mainland South-East Asia, and suggest that Denisovans once ranged widely over eastern Asia.[40][41][42] Based on the modern distribution of Denisova DNA, Denisovans may have crossed the Wallace Line, with Wallacea serving as their last refugium.[43][44] A paper by Kay Prüfer in 2013 said that mainland Asians and Native Americans had around 0.2% Denisovan ancestry.[45]


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Setanta wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 1:33am:
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Setanta wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:19am:
Johnnie wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:14am:
Setanta wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:09am:
Johnnie wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:02am:
We all know this card is directed at the abbos, why is it that they are the way they are, one theory suggests that they are a direct descendant of the Neanderthal which would explain it.



Everyone out of Africa has up to 3% Neanderthal DNA, that includes you unless you are confessing to be a Bantu or something. Neanderthals were a very successful species, 200,000 years until others came along.


True, but they were Neanderthals breeding with Neanderthals for 60,000yrs, or part thereof.


Their Neanderthal DNA component is no different to yours.
Yes, it is. Aboriginal have a large component of Denisovian while Europeans and Asians have Neanderthal. Aboriginals have a much smaller amount of Neanderthal or none at all.

Ah, so its a lack of Neanderthal which is the problem.


I would say it's cultural rather than genetic. Their culture and ours do not mesh. One of them will lose out in the end. History says the hunter/gatherer will lose.



Inferior subspecies, innit.


Yeah - I noticed Sam Thaiday couldn't hold up his end of the game last night.... but then Sam is very white for a blackfella... and chasing a commentator spot after he retires... so he's gotta be pretty white... forget about Stan The Man and the Phantom Suntan...


Sam is a Melanesian (Torres Strait Islander) ... he's about 4 times blacker than Stan Grant.  Grin
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Gnads wrote on Jul 24th, 2018 at 7:27am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 6:43pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 7:35am:
Setanta wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 1:33am:
Johnnie wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:46am:
rhino wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:43am:
Setanta wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:19am:
Johnnie wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:14am:
Setanta wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:09am:
Johnnie wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 12:02am:
We all know this card is directed at the abbos, why is it that they are the way they are, one theory suggests that they are a direct descendant of the Neanderthal which would explain it.



Everyone out of Africa has up to 3% Neanderthal DNA, that includes you unless you are confessing to be a Bantu or something. Neanderthals were a very successful species, 200,000 years until others came along.


True, but they were Neanderthals breeding with Neanderthals for 60,000yrs, or part thereof.


Their Neanderthal DNA component is no different to yours.
Yes, it is. Aboriginal have a large component of Denisovian while Europeans and Asians have Neanderthal. Aboriginals have a much smaller amount of Neanderthal or none at all.

Ah, so its a lack of Neanderthal which is the problem.


I would say it's cultural rather than genetic. Their culture and ours do not mesh. One of them will lose out in the end. History says the hunter/gatherer will lose.



Inferior subspecies, innit.


Yeah - I noticed Sam Thaiday couldn't hold up his end of the game last night.... but then Sam is very white for a blackfella... and chasing a commentator spot after he retires... so he's gotta be pretty white... forget about Stan The Man and the Phantom Suntan...


Sam is a Melanesian (Torres Strait Islander) ... he's about 4 times blacker than Stan Grant.  Grin


About right...
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