Gnads wrote on Jul 20^th, 2018 at 6:18pm:



We're all ANZACs mate - you know Gaylipoli.

We all know this card is directed at the abbos, why is it that they are the way they are, one theory suggests that they are a direct descendant of the Neanderthal which would explain it.

Setanta wrote on Jul 21^st, 2018 at 12:09am:

True, but they were Neanderthals breeding with Neanderthals for 60,000yrs, or part thereof.

Setanta wrote on Jul 21^st, 2018 at 12:19am:

Yeah, they do look Neanderthal like though, something going on there.

Setanta wrote on Jul 21^st, 2018 at 12:19am:
Yes, it is. Aboriginal have a large component of Denisovian while Europeans and Asians have Neanderthal. Aboriginals have a much smaller amount of Neanderthal or none at all.

rhino wrote on Jul 21^st, 2018 at 12:43am:

Ah, so its a lack of Neanderthal which is the problem.

Johnnie wrote on Jul 21^st, 2018 at 12:46am:


I would say it's cultural rather than genetic. Their culture and ours do not mesh. One of them will lose out in the end. History says the hunter/gatherer will lose.

rhino wrote on Jul 21^st, 2018 at 12:43am:


I believe Asians are the ones the one with the Denisovian DNA. Europeans skipped this DNA as it was in Asia, aboriginals coming through that part of the world getting here got some. I'm not a geneticist but that is what I understand from reading. Everyone that is not African has Neanderthal DNA. Those that travelled through Asia picked up Denisovan DNA.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Spread_and_evolution_o...

Tests comparing the Denisova hominin genome with those of six modern humans – a ǃKung from South Africa, a Nigerian, a Frenchman, a Papua New Guinean, a Bougainville Islander and a Han Chinese – showed that between 4% and 6% of the genome of Melanesians (represented by the Papua New Guinean and Bougainville Islander) derives from a Denisovan population; a later study puts the amount at 1.11% (with an additional contribution from some different and yet unknown ancestor).[38] This DNA was possibly introduced during the early migration to Melanesia. These findings are in concordance with the results of other comparison tests which show a relative increase in allele sharing between the Denisovan and the Aboriginal Australian genome, compared to other Eurasians and African populations; however, it has been observed that Papuans, the population of Papua New Guinea, have more allele sharing than Aboriginal Australians.[39]

Melanesians are not the only modern-day descendants of Denisovans. David Reich of Harvard University, in collaboration with Mark Stoneking of the Planck Institute team, found genetic evidence that Denisovan ancestry is shared also by Australian Aborigines, and smaller scattered groups of people in South-East Asia, such as the Mamanwa, a Negrito people in the Philippines though not all Negritos were found to possess Denisovan genes; Onge Andaman Islanders and Malaysian Jehai, for example, were found to have no significant Denisovan inheritance. These data place the interbreeding event in mainland South-East Asia, and suggest that Denisovans once ranged widely over eastern Asia.[40][41][42] Based on the modern distribution of Denisova DNA, Denisovans may have crossed the Wallace Line, with Wallacea serving as their last refugium.[43][44] A paper by Kay Prüfer in 2013 said that mainland Asians and Native Americans had around 0.2% Denisovan ancestry.[45]