buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 10:11am:



And yet it was the LABOR appointed Commissioners who cut penalty rates.  Bizarre Eh?

So who was responsible for this emasculation? Labor who appointed them or the Coalition which just accepted the decision?

Bill is the one saying he will restore penalty rates yes?That means he has to override the FWC. If he overrides the FWC then it is no longer independent.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 4:13pm:



What are the penalty rates NOW?

What will the proposed penalty rates be?

If the proposed penalty rates are higher than the current  penalty rates then they will indeed be "higher penalty rates".

There I predicted that would stir the uncorked gecko troll up and he/she would start ILLEGALLY MISQUOTING OTHER POSTERS. What a troll. Now to really stir the uncorked troll up by giving him/her a bit of the same.

The sad sack's "arguments" are as weak as water and are just simple minded parroting of union propaganda.


greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 4:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 4:25pm:

The blatant lying hypocrisy of Bulldust Billy


Bill Shorten has declared war on business and job creation with his promises outlined today to attack small business on a range of fronts.

While the Turnbull Government is delivering for Australian businesses - having secured a tax cut for 3.2 million small and medium businesses that employ over half of Australia’s workforce - Bill Shorten is proudly outlining his plan to wreck the Australian economy and kill jobs.

His contempt for small business is now out of control.

Mr Shorten does not have a single policy to grow the economy, generate jobs or increase wages. He says one thing but does another. He opposes reform after reform, including those that he once supported, because he would rather play politics than deliver anything for Australians.

He said he supported a reduction in the company tax rate, now he opposes it - even though millions of small and medium businesses are already benefiting from the lower taxes delivered by the Turnbull Government.

When it comes to Sunday penalty rates, Mr Shorten has no credibility.

For years, local small businesses have been competing on an uneven playing field against big businesses like Woolworths, McDonalds and KFC, as big businesses have done deals with big unions to slash Sunday penalty rates.



When he was National Secretary of the AWU, it did deals covering workers at Target, Big W and Just Jeans, which cut Sunday penalty rates to the same level as the independent Fair Work Commission’s recent decision.

It defies belief that Mr Shorten can maintain his scare campaign, when as a union leader, he himself did deals to reduce penalty rates.

Bill Shorten cannot be trusted on penalty rates.

As Minister for Workplace Relations, he established the Fair Work Commission review that has led to its penalty rates decision – he specifically amended the Fair Work Act to allow penalty rates to be cut. Bill Shorten owns this decision. He set the rules and appointed the umpire. He has repeatedly said he would respect the Commission’s decision on penalty rates.

Bill Shorten and Labor want small business to pay higher taxes, higher electricity bills and uncompetitive penalty rates that big businesses don’t have to pay. That’s unfair for small business and will be disastrous for the economy and jobs.

Bruiser Billy is gunna stick the boot into small business - that is AFTER he has RESTARTED the BOATS and finished STEALING MONEY from the PENSIONERS and then he has pledged to quadruple the price of electricity with his 50% renewable rubbish!!!



LABOR HITS 1 MILLION SMALL AND MEDIUM BUSINESSES, 4.8 MILLION WORKERS WITH HIGHER TAXES

Labor has committed to hit Australian small and medium businesses with higher taxes, in a decision that will undermine economic growth and cost jobs.

In its latest assault on business and the economy, Labor will increase taxes on 1 million small and medium businesses employing 4.8 million Australians by a staggering 10 per cent.

After repeatedly refusing to outline their position on the Turnbull Government’s legislated tax cuts for businesses under $50 million, it took a disastrous captain’s call from Bill Shorten and a bizarre attempted backflip from the Labor leader for the truth to finally come out – that under Labor, small and medium businesses will pay more.

This is a kick in the teeth for business investment, employment and higher wages. Around one in two Australian workers are employed in a business that has a turnover below $50 million.

It doesn’t matter whether it’s a fish and chip shop with a turnover of below $2 million, a manufacturer with a turnover of between $2 million and $10 million or a medium sized business with a turnover up to $50 million, Labor is coming after these businesses and their employees.

Yet again Labor want to roll back jobs and roll back economic growth.

The chaos of the last week under Bill Shorten and Labor will once again remind Australians of the risk they pose for our economy. If this is the way they conduct economic policy in opposition, imagine what they would do to our economy in government.

While Labor remains dazed and confused on taxes, the Turnbull Government is continuing to implement our plan for a stronger economy, with record jobs growth delivered in 2017 and economic growth running at over 3 per cent, back at the top of the major advanced economies leaderboard.

Our legislated tax cuts back Australian businesses to succeed, invest and employ more Australians, because we understand that stronger businesses create a stronger economy that can guarantee the essential services Australians rely on.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 19^th, 2018 at 4:22pm:



Hm Bill promises to REVERSE penalty rates CUTS.

"Bill Shorten promises to reverse penalty rates cuts if Labor wins election"

"But Mr Shorten has stopped short of offering affected workers compensation, or forcing businesses to back-pay them."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-27/bill-shorten-vows-to-reverse-penalty-rates...

So he is going to reverse penalty rates cuts, which would not impact on penalty rates currently paid? He really is a magician.