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Tesla is planning to build a plant in China
Jul 11^th, 2018 at 11:10am

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Tesla is planning to build a plant in China, and it expects to produce 500,000 cars a year. It comes after the company signed an agreement on the deal with Shanghai’s municipal government. Tesla has as long been trying to work out a deal with local authorities. CEO Elon Musk has said he hopes to begin producing cars in the country in 2020. The news saw shares rally more than 2%.

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/10-things-you-need-to-know-this-morning-in-au...

Well Tesla is not coming here to jobsungroth territory that is for sure. We will have to put up with Mals coffee shop and lawn mowing jobs. No EV manufacturing jobs for us unfortunately since the uptake in EV's is still 20 years behind everyone else Sad

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Re: Tesla is planning to build a plant in China
Reply #1 - Jul 11^th, 2018 at 11:59am

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 11^th, 2018 at 11:10am:

Well Tesla is not coming here to jobsungroth territory that is for sure.

Yeah. They should come and build their 500,000 cars a year here. Doesn't matter about long supply lines, we'll just ship them on one of them new fangled wind operated ships to wherever they need to go.

Doesn't matter that the most of humanity lives in the northern hemisphere and that's where the sales will be.

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"Like all types of transportation that use fossil fuels, vessels produce carbon dioxide emissions that significantly contribute to global climate change and acidification. Besides carbon dioxide ships also release a handful of other pollutants that contribute to the problem.

We support the efforts made by the International Maritime Organization (IMO), to prevent and significantly reduce marine plastic pollution from the shipping sector and in curbing greenhouse gas emissions from ships, as it implements other regulations that will mandate cleaner-burning fuels at sea."

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Re: Tesla is planning to build a plant in China
Reply #2 - Jul 11^th, 2018 at 12:04pm

lee wrote on Jul 11^th, 2018 at 11:59am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 11^th, 2018 at 11:10am:

Well Tesla is not coming here to jobsungroth territory that is for sure.

Yeah. They should come and build their 500,000 cars a year here. Doesn't matter about long supply lines, we'll just ship them on one of them new fangled wind operated ships to wherever they need to go.

Doesn't matter that the most of humanity lives in the northern hemisphere and that's where the sales will be.

/sarc

"Like all types of transportation that use fossil fuels, vessels produce carbon dioxide emissions that significantly contribute to global climate change and acidification. Besides carbon dioxide ships also release a handful of other pollutants that contribute to the problem.

We support the efforts made by the International Maritime Organization (IMO), to prevent and significantly reduce marine plastic pollution from the shipping sector and in curbing greenhouse gas emissions from ships, as it implements other regulations that will mandate cleaner-burning fuels at sea."

http://press.vatican.va/content/salastampa/it/bollettino/pubblico/2018/07/08/052...

don't worry. Before long Elon Musk will be building battery powered ships Wink

Fortunately china doesn't employ dummies like yourself to make major technical decisions for them. They'd still be dragging along rickshaws if they did !

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Re: Tesla is planning to build a plant in China
Reply #3 - Jul 11^th, 2018 at 12:08pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 11^th, 2018 at 12:04pm:

don't worry. Fortunately china doesn't employ dummies like yourself to make major technical decisions for them.

Good one. Don't address the issue at all. How much closer is China say to Europe? China to the USA?

You can't even answer simple questions. Does that make you the dummy?

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Reply #4 - Jul 11^th, 2018 at 1:05pm

lee wrote on Jul 11^th, 2018 at 12:08pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 11^th, 2018 at 12:04pm:

don't worry. Fortunately china doesn't employ dummies like yourself to make major technical decisions for them.

Good one. Don't address the issue at all. How much closer is China say to Europe? China to the USA?

You can't even answer simple questions. Does that make you the dummy?

whinge whine whinge whine. Tesla is setting up the plant in china to supply the local chinese with EV's. That's how it works in china. If you want china to buy your product you setup a factory in china and employ local chinese to build them ! Contrast that to way these sellouts here run the place where you bring in containers loads of imported manufactured goods and in exchange we will give them a bit of coal and iron ore Sad

In case you didn't know china is a huge adopter of EV's unlike boneheads like socko and yourself here which are addicted to the fossil fool bowser forever.

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Reply #5 - Jul 11^th, 2018 at 1:33pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 11^th, 2018 at 1:05pm:

Tesla is setting up the plant in china to supply the local chinese with EV's. That's how it works in china. If you want china to buy your product you setup a factory in china and employ local chinese to build them !

Yeah. Lovely OH&S, Lovely worker remuneration. What's not to like?

Oh and lots of illegally emitted CFC's. Grin

Maybe you should emigrate to this worker's utopia. Wink

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Reply #6 - Jul 11^th, 2018 at 1:39pm

lee wrote on Jul 11^th, 2018 at 1:33pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 11^th, 2018 at 1:05pm:

Tesla is setting up the plant in china to supply the local chinese with EV's. That's how it works in china. If you want china to buy your product you setup a factory in china and employ local chinese to build them !

Yeah. Lovely OH&S, Lovely worker remuneration. What's not to like?

Oh and lots of illegally emitted CFC's. Grin

Maybe you should emigrate to this worker's utopia. Wink

Bullshit. Tesla factories are all environmentally friendly no matter where they are unlike your mates in the coal industries.

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Reply #7 - Jul 11^th, 2018 at 1:42pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 11^th, 2018 at 1:39pm:

Bullshit. Tesla factories are all environmentally friendly no matter where they are unlike your mates in the coal industries.

Of course. St Elon the Just would be a positive force. Forcing the Chinese to lift their appalling standards. Grin

You do understand OH&S is not just about being environmentally friendly; don't you? Remuneration isn't about the environment either.

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Reply #8 - Jul 11^th, 2018 at 8:16pm

lee wrote on Jul 11^th, 2018 at 1:42pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 11^th, 2018 at 1:39pm:

Bullshit. Tesla factories are all environmentally friendly no matter where they are unlike your mates in the coal industries.

Of course. St Elon the Just would be a positive force. Forcing the Chinese to lift their appalling standards. Grin

You do understand OH&S is not just about being environmentally friendly; don't you? Remuneration isn't about the environment either.

Yes it's really going to look good for prospective investors when Tesla abuses its workforce.

Is there anything else you want to whinge about ? Sounds like you have run out of ammunition and just scraping the bottom of the barrel or sockos backside Cheesy

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16438 Gender:	Re: Tesla is planning to build a plant in China Reply #9 - Jul 11^th, 2018 at 8:30pm Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 11^th, 2018 at 8:16pm: Yes it's really going to look good for prospective investors when Tesla abuses its workforce. Oh you mean like those western clothes made in poor countries and how the populace reacts to criticisms of that? By buying more because they are cheaper?
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Reply #10 - Jul 11^th, 2018 at 11:24pm

lee wrote on Jul 11^th, 2018 at 8:30pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 11^th, 2018 at 8:16pm:

Yes it's really going to look good for prospective investors when Tesla abuses its workforce.

Oh you mean like those western clothes made in poor countries and how the populace reacts to criticisms of that? By buying more because they are cheaper? Grin

Tell that to all of the aussie retailing leech corporations which buy clothing from Bangladesh on the cheap. And then there are idiot aussies and their equally idiot super funds falling over themselves to buy shares in these crap non value adding companies. Note how you don't complain about their support of OHS breaches. Only complain if it's a prospective battery electric car company which has not even started yet Cheesy

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Re: Tesla is planning to build a plant in China
Reply #11 - Jul 12^th, 2018 at 11:28am

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 11^th, 2018 at 11:24pm:

Tell that to all of the aussie retailing leech corporations which buy clothing from Bangladesh on the cheap. And then there are idiot aussies and their equally idiot super funds falling over themselves to buy shares in these crap non value adding companies. Note how you don't complain about their support of OHS breaches. Only complain if it's a prospective battery electric car company which has not even started yet

And then Levis, Adidas amongst the globals. Wink

But my point exactly. They don't complain. Thanks for playing. Grin

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Reply #12 - Jul 12^th, 2018 at 2:41pm

lee wrote on Jul 12^th, 2018 at 11:28am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 11^th, 2018 at 11:24pm:

Tell that to all of the aussie retailing leech corporations which buy clothing from Bangladesh on the cheap. And then there are idiot aussies and their equally idiot super funds falling over themselves to buy shares in these crap non value adding companies. Note how you don't complain about their support of OHS breaches. Only complain if it's a prospective battery electric car company which has not even started yet

And then Levis, Adidas amongst the globals. Wink

But my point exactly. They don't complain. Thanks for playing. Grin

what are you talking about now idiot ?

Talk to socko underwater in bubbles. I'm sure he will understand you perfectly Cheesy

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Reply #13 - Jul 12^th, 2018 at 3:15pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 12^th, 2018 at 2:41pm:

what are you talking about now idiot ?

A comment about China -

lee wrote on Jul 11^th, 2018 at 1:33pm:

Yeah. Lovely OH&S, Lovely worker remuneration. What's not to like?

Oh and lots of illegally emitted CFC's

became a comment about St Elon the Just -

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 11^th, 2018 at 1:39pm:

Bullshit. Tesla factories are all environmentally friendly no matter where they are unlike your mates in the coal industries.

Then -

lee wrote on Jul 11^th, 2018 at 1:42pm:

Of course. St Elon the Just would be a positive force. Forcing the Chinese to lift their appalling standards.

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 11^th, 2018 at 8:16pm:

Yes it's really going to look good for prospective investors when Tesla abuses its workforce.

Now - I wrote nothing about St Elon the Just abusing the workforce. Wink

It is all part of doing business in China.

Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 11^th, 2018 at 11:24pm:

Tell that to all of the aussie retailing leech corporations which buy clothing from Bangladesh on the cheap. And then there are idiot aussies and their equally idiot super funds falling over themselves to buy shares in these crap non value adding companies. Note how you don't complain about their support of OHS breaches. Only complain if it's a prospective battery electric car company which has not even started yet

Are you going to tell me that St Elon the Just will do things his was way in China, or will he be constrained by Chinese policies?

China has poor OH&S. China has poor environmental policies. But according to DDH China has better Air Quality Standards than Australia. They just don't seem to have the knack of prosecuting breaches.

Make up your mind. If you do business in China you do it the Chinese way.

I'm sorry if this is too hard for you to understand.

BTW - Shanghai skyline

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Sir lastnail Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 29707 Gender:	Re: Tesla is planning to build a plant in China Reply #14 - Jul 12^th, 2018 at 9:05pm Yes I know. Pollution and particulate matter is only a problem when it's the manufacturing of electric cars and solar panels. LOL
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