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Re: Correct version of Australia’s history
Reply #195 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 5:30pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 5:21pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 1:01pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 12:53pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 12:49pm:
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Brian Ross wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 7:09pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 6:59pm:
People like you piss on Australian white history when the pioneers  died like flies carving out of a life for themselves. It was a fight for survival and pure nature. Don't bring some 21st century leftist morality into the realities of existence. It's just dividing our country up. People feel enough guilt as it is. We don't need it.


You have evidence to back this assertion, Hammer?  Or are you merely hitting out because you don't like the message?   I have never "pissed on" any history based on factual evidence.   White Colonists were ill equipped to survive in the Australian Bush - that is a fact.   Indigenous Australians often helped them to survive.  They showed them where water was, what bush foods to eat, how to marshal their stock, how to look after themselves.   You appear to have problems with accepting that truth.  Why?  Does it hurt?   Roll Eyes


Please explain that one?


Without Black stockmen there wouldn't be a white stock industry.   Roll Eyes

Australians run stock all over the country Brian. So every district was assisted by aborigines? Why didn't aborigines learn to make metal from visiting asian peoples?


Oh, dear, you really are being very tiresome, Hammer.  You take a simple statement and try and blow it into some general insult.  Australia is a large continent.  In the Top End and the NW, Indigenous Australians were instrumental in the creation of the stock industry.   In northern South Australia they were also important.   Roll Eyes

Without Black stockmen there wouldn't be a white stock industry

Don't make general statements then.


You should think about that, Hammer.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #196 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 7:07pm
 
14 pages in, and none of his supporters have any idea what he means by houses and sheds, and not one of them are willing to defend his use of the term farming.

Lying about history doesn't fix anything.
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Reply #197 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 7:10pm
 
It's sad to think that their civilization reached its peak and still couldn't fend off invaders.

And all this pre-stone age
Because they couldn't work out to attach a stone to a stick.
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Reply #198 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 7:17pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 5:30pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 5:21pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 1:01pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 12:53pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 12:49pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 7:20pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 7:09pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 6:59pm:
People like you piss on Australian white history when the pioneers  died like flies carving out of a life for themselves. It was a fight for survival and pure nature. Don't bring some 21st century leftist morality into the realities of existence. It's just dividing our country up. People feel enough guilt as it is. We don't need it.


You have evidence to back this assertion, Hammer?  Or are you merely hitting out because you don't like the message?   I have never "pissed on" any history based on factual evidence.   White Colonists were ill equipped to survive in the Australian Bush - that is a fact.   Indigenous Australians often helped them to survive.  They showed them where water was, what bush foods to eat, how to marshal their stock, how to look after themselves.   You appear to have problems with accepting that truth.  Why?  Does it hurt?   Roll Eyes


Please explain that one?


Without Black stockmen there wouldn't be a white stock industry.   Roll Eyes

Australians run stock all over the country Brian. So every district was assisted by aborigines? Why didn't aborigines learn to make metal from visiting asian peoples?


Oh, dear, you really are being very tiresome, Hammer.  You take a simple statement and try and blow it into some general insult.  Australia is a large continent.  In the Top End and the NW, Indigenous Australians were instrumental in the creation of the stock industry.   In northern South Australia they were also important.   Roll Eyes

Without Black stockmen there wouldn't be a white stock industry

Don't make general statements then.


You should think about that, Hammer.   Roll Eyes

Well next time say-  aborigines helped peg out properties and aided in finding water for the whiteman IN SOME CASES Brian. The whiteman  was running cattle a few years after the first fleet. One of the big things that established the grazing industry in OZ was bringing out types of grazing animals that could handle our conditions like the Merino. And that had nothing to do with the aborigines.
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Reply #199 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 7:17pm
 
oh dear looks like bwian has runaway from his STOCKMEN lie....tsk, tsk, tsk bwian... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #200 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 7:21pm
 
Valkie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 7:10pm:
It's sad to think that their civilization reached its peak and still couldn't fend off invaders.

And all this pre-stone age
Because they couldn't work out to attach a stone to a stick.

Neither could the civilisations in North and South America, Africa and big parts of Asia.
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Reply #201 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 7:23pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 7:21pm:
Valkie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 7:10pm:
It's sad to think that their civilization reached its peak and still couldn't fend off invaders.

And all this pre-stone age
Because they couldn't work out to attach a stone to a stick.

Neither could the civilisations in North and South America, Africa and big parts of Asia.

We are smarter than them. That's the reason.
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Re: Correct version of Australia’s history
Reply #202 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 7:26pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 5:29pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 3:34pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 2:48pm:
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They were employed by whitemen until they "reliably" went on walkabout........"Instrumental" my arse.......they made a fvvken stick, that's all they did.....oh, and made some bloody dots and called it art......


'Funny' watching these idiots trying to put schit on a people and culture which had survived for thousands of years before whitey farked it all for them.


Yeah - apart from the roads, and health standards, and public order, and the wine - don't forget the wine - clean streets, mean streets, any streets at all, education, free money, reliable food source....what else - I ask you... WHAT ELSE HAS THE WHITE MAN DONE FOR US, EH??

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Of course, we can ignore the white land owners' habits of paying the Black fellas in some minor goods - some beef, some flour and some sugar.  Nor should we ignore the substandard "housing" they provided for the Stockmen and their families - a few sheets of corrugated iron for a humpy.  Oh, and then there was the non-existent health care they provided.  Indeed, when the Army arrived in the Northern Territory durng WWII and employed Indigenous people at decent wages, with decent accommodation and and health care, the landowners protested, realising that the Indigenous people would get, "ideas". 

The Army personnel were shocked at the conditions they found, with good reason.   Effectively the Indigenous people were treated like slaves.  They worked, were paid a pittance and suffered as a consequence from white greed and greed was what drove it.  As much as you attempt to make fun of concern about the working conditions of Indigenous workers in the 1930s-40s-50s-60s-70s they were abhominable.


Historically, Brian - that happened with all kinds of people who lived on the 'boss' property and worked for the boss, and who received a few paltry goods and a place to live in exchange for their work and servitude. 

This was particularly prevalent in WA, that notorious non-convict colony which spawns paedos and serial killers and such with gay abandon - due to its rather haughty 'English' approach to the "master/servant relationship".

It wasn't only the position of Black Fellahs... and while I sympathise with your stance, it does no good to live in the past, but it does do good to work for a better future for all.

Let the dead bury the dead - my concern is the living..... surely you've heard that somewhere.....


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Re: Correct version of Australia’s history
Reply #203 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 7:28pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 7:21pm:
Valkie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 7:10pm:
It's sad to think that their civilization reached its peak and still couldn't fend off invaders.

And all this pre-stone age
Because they couldn't work out to attach a stone to a stick.

Neither could the civilisations in North and South America, Africa and big parts of Asia.


Yeah, but you don't hear them lying about building cities, architectural marvels and modern farming techniques do you?
But we are supposed to believe this garbage.

It's like the joke about telephone wires
They couldn't find any no matter how deep they dogged.
So it's obvious they had wireless technology.
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Reply #204 - Jul 17th, 2018 at 12:27am
 
Grendel wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 3:37pm:
I may have missed something but weren't Aborigines taught to be STOCKMEN by bwian's reviled "white men".


Nah... NAH - they were terrific horsemen long before...... (lets that hang in the air)....
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Reply #205 - Jul 17th, 2018 at 9:57am
 
Yeah I was wonderin' about that.

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Reply #206 - Jul 17th, 2018 at 11:50am
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 7:23pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 7:21pm:
Valkie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 7:10pm:
It's sad to think that their civilization reached its peak and still couldn't fend off invaders.

And all this pre-stone age
Because they couldn't work out to attach a stone to a stick.

Neither could the civilisations in North and South America, Africa and big parts of Asia.

We are smarter than them. That's the reason.
New research is vindicating the theory of different human races and subspecies.
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Re: Correct version of Australia’s history
Reply #207 - Jul 17th, 2018 at 12:30pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 7:23pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 7:21pm:
Valkie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 7:10pm:
It's sad to think that their civilization reached its peak and still couldn't fend off invaders.

And all this pre-stone age
Because they couldn't work out to attach a stone to a stick.

Neither could the civilisations in North and South America, Africa and big parts of Asia.

We are smarter than them. That's the reason.


What's this, "we", white man?   Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, Hammer.   Roll Eyes
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Re: Correct version of Australia’s history
Reply #208 - Jul 17th, 2018 at 12:33pm
 
rhino wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 11:50am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 7:23pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 7:21pm:
Valkie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 7:10pm:
It's sad to think that their civilization reached its peak and still couldn't fend off invaders.

And all this pre-stone age
Because they couldn't work out to attach a stone to a stick.

Neither could the civilisations in North and South America, Africa and big parts of Asia.

We are smarter than them. That's the reason.
New research is vindicating the theory of different human races and subspecies.


Really?  Genetics doesn't validate that viewpoint at all.   There is effectively only one "race", the human one.   "Race" as commonly used as a concept is a social construct based purely on external evolutionary characteristics.   Humans are all (virtually) Genetically identical.  It is what allows us to interbreed, no matter what the colour of our skin/shape of our eyes/thickness of our lips/etc.   There are no "different human races and subspecies".     Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: Correct version of Australia’s history
Reply #209 - Jul 17th, 2018 at 12:34pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 12:33pm:
rhino wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 11:50am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 7:23pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 7:21pm:
Valkie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 7:10pm:
It's sad to think that their civilization reached its peak and still couldn't fend off invaders.

And all this pre-stone age
Because they couldn't work out to attach a stone to a stick.

Neither could the civilisations in North and South America, Africa and big parts of Asia.

We are smarter than them. That's the reason.
New research is vindicating the theory of different human races and subspecies.


Really?  Genetics doesn't validate that viewpoint at all.   There is effectively only one "race", the human one.   "Race" as commonly used as a concept is a social construct based purely on external evolutionary characteristics.   Humans are all (virtually) Genetically identical.  It is what allows us to interbreed, no matter what the colour of our skin/shape of our eyes/thickness of our lips/etc.   There are no "different human races and subspecies".     Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
completley wrong. DNA research proves it.
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