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An Irishman's insight on Africa.....
         You can no more ignore or deny the logic in this. A must read.  It's what a lot of people think, but don't articulate.
                                       
This article is controversial but sadly, might be very close to the truth.  It has rattled my conscience somewhat.  The imponderable…… where do we go from here?
Kevin Myers (born 30 March 1947) is an Irish journalist and writer. He writes for the Irish edition of the Sunday Times, having previously been a columnist for the Irish Independent and a former contributor to The Irish Times, where he wrote the "An Irishman's Diary" opinion column several times weekly. Until 2005, he wrote for the UK Sunday Telegraph.
His articles criticize left-wing opinion and the "liberal consensus", sometimes incorporating hyperbole, sarcasm and parody.
Somalia is not a humanitarian disaster; it is an evolutionary disaster. The current drought is not the worst in 50 years, as the BBC and all the aid organizations claim.
It is nothing compared to the droughts in 1960/61 or 73/74.  And there are continuing droughts every 5 years or so.
It's just that there are now four times the population; having been kept alive by famine relief, supplied by aid organizations, over the past 50 years.
So, of course, the effects of any drought now, is a famine. They cannot even feed themselves in a normal rainfall year.

Worst yet, the effects of these droughts, and poor nutrition in the first 3 years of the a child's life, have a lasting effect on the development of the infant brain, so that if they survive, they will never achieve a normal IQ .
Consequently, they are selectively breeding a population who cannot be educated, let alone one that is not being educated; a recipe for disaster

We are seeing this impact now, and it can only exacerbate, to the detriment of their neighbors, and their environment as well. This scenario can only end in an even worse disaster; with even worse suffering, for those benighted people, and their descendants. Eventually, some mechanism will intervene, be it war, disease or starvation.

So what do we do? Let them starve?
What a dilemma for our Judeo/Christian/Islamic Ethos; as well as Hindu/Buddhist morality.  And this is beginning to happen in Kenya, Ethiopia and other countries in Asia, like Pakistan.  Is this the beginning of the end of civilization?

AFRICA is giving nothing to anyone outside Africa -- apart from AIDS and new diseases. Even as we see African states refusing to take action to restore something resembling civilization in Zimbabwe, the begging bowl for Ethiopia is being passed around to us out of Africa, yet again.
It is nearly 25 years since the famous Feed The World campaign began in Ethiopia, and in that time Ethiopia's population has grown from 33.5 million to 78+ million today.
So, why on earth should I do anything to encourage further catastrophic demographic growth in that country?
Where is the logic? There is none. Now they want to move to other countries to continue to breed and commit crime.

To be sure, there are two things saying that logic doesn't count.  One is my conscience, and the other is the picture, yet again, of another wide-eyed child, yet again, gazing,
yet again, at the camera, which yet again, captures the tragedy of children starving.

Sorry. My conscience has toured this territory on foot and financially.  Unlike most of you, I have been to Ethiopia; like most of you, I have stumped up the loot to charities to stop starvation there.  The wide-eyed boy-child we saved, 20 years or so ago, is now a low IQ, AK 47-bearing moron, siring children whenever the whim takes him and blaming the world because he is uneducated, poor and left behind.  There is no doubt a good argument why we should prolong this predatory and dysfunctional economic,  social and sexual system but I do not know what it is.  There is, on the other hand, every reason not to write a column like this.
It will win no friends and will provoke the self-righteous wrath of, well, the self-righteous hand wringing, letter writing wrathful individuals; a species which never fails to contaminate almost every debate in Irish life with its sneers and its moral superiority. It will also probably enrage some of the finest men in Irish life, like John O'Shea, of Goal; and the Finucane brothers, men whom I admire enormously.

So be it.
But, please, please, you self-righteously wrathful, spare me mention of our own Irish Famine, with this or that lazy analogy. There is no comparison!
Within 20 years of the Famine, the Irish population was down by 30%. Over the equivalent period, thanks to western food, the Mercedes 10-wheel truck and the Lockheed Hercules plane, Ethiopia's population has more than doubled.

Alas, that wretched country is not alone in its madness.
Somewhere, over the rainbow, lies Somalia, another fine land of violent, AK 47-toting, khat-chewing, girl-circumcising, permanently tumescent layabouts and housing pirates of the ocean.  Indeed, we now have almost an entire continent of sexually hyperactive, illiterate indigents, with tens of millions of people who only survive because of help from the outside world or allowances by the semi-communist Governments they voted for, money supplied by borrowing it from the World Bank!

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Reply #1 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:33am
 
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This dependency has not stimulated political prudence or common sense.
Indeed, voodoo idiocy seems to be in the ascendant, with the president of South Africa being a firm believer in the efficacy of a little tap water on the post-coital penis as a sure preventative against AIDS infection.  Needless to say, poverty, hunger and societal meltdown have not prevented idiotic wars involving Tigre, Uganda, Congo, Sudan, Somalia, Eritrea etcetera.
Broad brush-strokes, to be sure.
But broad brush-strokes are often the way that history paints its gaudier, if more decisive, chapters.
Japan, China, Russia, Korea, Poland, Germany, Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia in the 20th century have endured worse broad brush-strokes than almost any part of Africa. They are now -- one way or another -- virtually all giving aid to or investing in Africa, whereas Africa, with its vast Savannahs and its lush pastures, is giving almost nothing to anyone, apart from AIDS.

Meanwhile, Africa's peoples are outstripping their resources and causing catastrophic ecological degradation.
By 2050, the population of Ethiopia will be 177 million; the equivalent of France, Germany and Benelux today, but located on the parched and increasingly Protein-free wastelands of the Great Rift Valley.  So, how much sense does it make for us actively to increase the adult population of what is already a vastly over-populated, environmentally devastated and economically dependent country?

How much morality is there in saving an Ethiopian child from starvation today, for it to survive to a life of brutal circumcision, poverty, hunger, violence and sexual abuse, resulting in another half-dozen such wide-eyed children, with comparably jolly little lives ahead of them?

Of course, it might make you feel better, which is a prime reason for so much charity!

But that is not good enough.
For self-serving generosity has been one of the curses of Africa. It has sustained political systems which would otherwise have collapsed.
It prolonged the Eritrean-Ethiopian war by nearly a decade.
It is inspiring Bill Gates' programme to rid the continent of malaria, when, in the almost complete absence of personal self-discipline, that disease is one of the most efficacious forms of population-control now operating. If his programme is successful, tens of millions of children who would otherwise have died in infancy will survive to adulthood, he boasts.

Oh good: then what? I know, let them all come here (to Ireland). Germany and the rest of Europe is already inundated and there are literally millions queuing up who want a hand out, taking in refugees because you feel sorry for them will end in the demise of those countries taking part.
You will note that; No Gulf State is taking any refugees, and the head of the human rights commission is Saudi Arabian !?!
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Reply #2 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 12:55pm
 


Its an uncomfortable truth.
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Reply #3 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:11pm
 
Lout Of Africa?

Reminds me of Michael Marin's 'Road To Hell' - where he posited the same thing - that providing 'aid' and 'relief' will lead to population explosion, which will then create a situation where the countryside cannot sustain them.

Marin's example was digging wells and providing irrigation in Somalia or similar - soon the number of sheep/goats expands way beyond the wildest dreams of the nomadic herdsmen, and competition for the prime land develops in earnest.... then the sheep/goats eat out all the good grass now created, and have to go further and further to find forage, eventually going beyond the  'prudent limit of endurance' back to water.... thus everyone dies.

Same with sustaining an unsustainable population - cruel as it sounds....

For my final word (this time)... we of the West and particularly Lifeboat Australia should be looking very closely at what we are doing with our population and resources....... lest we end up in the same situation of needing more to sustain an unsustainable population while resources diminish (in our case in real terms due to economic forces, which in turn are due to massive mineral etc exportation without installing solid infrastructure for THIS nation first and foremost).

The warning is clear for the whole world... get with it or be without it......

Gnads - you're in Queenslund (where they do things diff'runtly... mark my words!).  You're not by any chance my distant cousin whose great-grandparents were sister and brother of my great-grandparents, are you?  Same kind of thinking....
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Reply #4 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 6:54pm
 
When you have a media that preys on emotion and fear and has been pumping this crap out for decades you are eventually left with a very fkkking stupid population of people that do some very fkkking stupid things because at the time the warm fuzzy feeling was thrilling.......and they got a front page spread.


Never donated. Never will. For the exact reasons in the article above.
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Reply #5 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 7:18pm
 
I think Malthus was the first to come up with this one.
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Reply #6 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 7:31pm
 
We must be fast approaching the time when those countries that are able to give aid to mendicant countries will no longer have the capacity to do so. You can only go to the well so many times. It will eventually run dry.

Aid is indeed killing Africa.

Dambisa Moyo and Why Western Aid is Killing Africa


Take the poorest region in the world, where 70 percent of the people live in poverty, 25 million have HIV/AIDS, a child dies every 30 seconds from Malaria, more than half the countries are run by non-democratic regimes, which has had eleven civil wars and two instances of genocide in the past 15 years, and you help it by...making it poorer??

The debate over how best to help Africa pull itself out of the debilitating poverty, corruption and disease it has been mired in for decades has been dominated — in recent years, anyway — by white, middle-aged male Westerners. Most of us are familiar with Bono’s courting of world leaders in drawing attention to the crisis, Bob Geldof’s Live Aid benefit concerts, and Bill Gates’ efforts — through The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation — to eradicate malaria, which kills more Africans every year than AIDS.

Celebrities like these have occupied center stage in the debate, and their argument has been simple and loud: send more aid! Commendable, to be sure, and commonsensical on the face of it: Africans have scraps; we have a cornucopia — let’s help them.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/jake-whitney/dambisa-moyo-and-why-west_b_180964.h...

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Reply #7 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 7:39pm
 
The countries that can will no longer be able to because they were stupid enough to sign up to some mythical global economy that is slowly destroying them all and sucking them dry to feed a relative few offshore very fat leeches.

It's a real shame that the Darwin Effect (not the heat and a few Darwin Stubbies) doesn't seem to be working with politicians.. I suppose that's because they are safely insulated from the very evils they themselves create for everyone else.

Now what was I just saying elsewhere about Trump and China .. oh... and 
North Korea and Kim Ill Dong ...??
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Reply #8 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 8:27pm
 
miketrees wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 12:55pm:
Its an uncomfortable truth.

It may be the truth, but Africa was colonised for decades or even hundreds of years, unfortunately the colonisers only exploited the people and taught them nothing.
What is surprising that our leaders of this world do not realise that it less than 200 years when the population of this planet reached 1 billion, and now it is more than 7 billion, while they still preach global growth, which also means population growth; what a sad world.
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Reply #9 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 9:41pm
 
hawil wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 8:27pm:
miketrees wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 12:55pm:
Its an uncomfortable truth.

It may be the truth, but Africa was colonised for decades or even hundreds of years, unfortunately the colonisers only exploited the people and taught them nothing.
What is surprising that our leaders of this world do not realise that it less than 200 years when the population of this planet reached 1 billion, and now it is more than 7 billion, while they still preach global growth, which also means population growth; what a sad world.


So was south east asia, how are they fairing?
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Reply #10 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 9:58pm
 
The problems in Africa are not attributable to a few centuries of colonisation. They are attributable to a millennia or more of supplying slaves for the regional and global trade, and 1400 years or Muslim rule across the north. The social and political institutions they have today were shaped during that era and are not going to change in a hurry.
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Reply #11 - Jul 9th, 2018 at 12:06pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 9:41pm:
hawil wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 8:27pm:
miketrees wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 12:55pm:
Its an uncomfortable truth.

It may be the truth, but Africa was colonised for decades or even hundreds of years, unfortunately the colonisers only exploited the people and taught them nothing.
What is surprising that our leaders of this world do not realise that it less than 200 years when the population of this planet reached 1 billion, and now it is more than 7 billion, while they still preach global growth, which also means population growth; what a sad world.


So was south east asia, how are they fairing?


Well - principally they turned inward and do not permit foreign investment unhampered... unlike this colonised failed state of San Austrador, they sought Sinn Fein after decades and even centuries of being ruled and dominated by foreign powers.

Ourselves Alone is not just an Irish concept... it's a nation concept on an international stage - and only those foolish enough to not protect and preserve their own go down in a welter of immigration and resources and job loss...
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Reply #12 - Jul 9th, 2018 at 12:28pm
 
Which African state should we aspire to be more like Grap?
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Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:11pm:
Lout Of Africa?

Reminds me of Michael Marin's 'Road To Hell' - where he posited the same thing - that providing 'aid' and 'relief' will lead to population explosion, which will then create a situation where the countryside cannot sustain them.

Marin's example was digging wells and providing irrigation in Somalia or similar - soon the number of sheep/goats expands way beyond the wildest dreams of the nomadic herdsmen, and competition for the prime land develops in earnest.... then the sheep/goats eat out all the good grass now created, and have to go further and further to find forage, eventually going beyond the  'prudent limit of endurance' back to water.... thus everyone dies.

Same with sustaining an unsustainable population - cruel as it sounds....

For my final word (this time)... we of the West and particularly Lifeboat Australia should be looking very closely at what we are doing with our population and resources....... lest we end up in the same situation of needing more to sustain an unsustainable population while resources diminish (in our case in real terms due to economic forces, which in turn are due to massive mineral etc exportation without installing solid infrastructure for THIS nation first and foremost).

The warning is clear for the whole world... get with it or be without it......

Gnads - you're in Queenslund (where they do things diff'runtly... mark my words!).  You're not by any chance my distant cousin whose great-grandparents were sister and brother of my great-grandparents, are you?  Same kind of thinking....


Grin Grin I think?  Tongue
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Reply #14 - Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:49pm
 
hawil wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 8:27pm:
miketrees wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 12:55pm:
Its an uncomfortable truth.

It may be the truth, but Africa was colonised for decades or even hundreds of years, unfortunately the colonisers only exploited the people and taught them nothing.
What is surprising that our leaders of this world do not realise that it less than 200 years when the population of this planet reached 1 billion, and now it is more than 7 billion, while they still preach global growth, which also means population growth; what a sad world.


You mean in 430 years they learnt nothing ... big difference.

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