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What happened to the same sex marriage boom?
Jul 7th, 2018 at 6:58pm
 
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Reply #1 - Jul 7th, 2018 at 8:51pm
 
it turned into plastic bags....  Wink
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Reply #2 - Jul 7th, 2018 at 9:26pm
 
I said over and over again that it was a minority of a minority that wanted to get married and that there was no need to change thousands of years of tradition and the meaning of marriage for such a small amount of people.

That it was being driven by LW prog radicals with a gender agenda who supported the safe schools program, but no, the truth and evidence was brushed aside by the largely LW media and stupid politicians. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #3 - Jul 7th, 2018 at 9:30pm
 
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So, there you have it, folks. The vast majority of the Australian public has been conned. The LGBTIQ community never really wanted to get married. At least, that’s what 94.3 per cent of them actually think. But that shouldn’t really surprise us, because as Marsha Gessen, the lesbian political activist, told the 2012 Sydney Writer’s Festival: “Fighting for gay marriage generally involves lying about what we are going to do with marriage when we get there. Because we lie that the institution of marriage is not going to change. And that is a lie.”
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Reply #4 - Jul 7th, 2018 at 9:59pm
 
What happened to the same sex marriage boom?

Another made up bit of fake news.

Nobody said or expected a same sex marriage boom.

On the other side of the coin the supporters could rightly argue that the world didn't end either ?
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Reply #5 - Jul 7th, 2018 at 10:17pm
 
What usually happens to same sex.

It goes nowhere (no procreation) but up **** creek.
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Reply #6 - Jul 7th, 2018 at 10:49pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Jul 7th, 2018 at 9:59pm:
What happened to the same sex marriage boom?

Another made up bit of fake news.

Nobody said or expected a same sex marriage boom.

On the other side of the coin the supporters could rightly argue that the world didn't end either ?

Rubbish read the article... or maybe go back and read some of the pro SSM garbage spouted before that is posted on this site.
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Reply #7 - Jul 7th, 2018 at 11:32pm
 
I suppose then that all those fifteen year olds who would suicide unless they got the 'right' to marry won't be doing it even though they don't 'marry'?

Big Bad Bill was so terrified of a rash of suicides unless the poor darlings got a 'right' to 'marry'...

Just fakes news I suppose... oh, well.........
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Reply #8 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 12:57am
 
What happened to the same sex marriage boom?

Probably the same thing that happened to the heterosexual marriage boom. People getting married whenever they want to.
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Reply #9 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 7:57am
 
Raven wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 12:57am:
What happened to the same sex marriage boom?

Probably the same thing that happened to the heterosexual marriage boom. People getting married whenever they want to.


So why the big waste of money?  Roll Eyes
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Reply #10 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 9:41am
 
Gnads wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 7:57am:
Raven wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 12:57am:
What happened to the same sex marriage boom?

Probably the same thing that happened to the heterosexual marriage boom. People getting married whenever they want to.


So why the big waste of money?  Roll Eyes


The point was that people in same sex relationships could not get married when they wanted too or at all.

Yes the big waste of money was only Turnbull grandstanding over a decision that he and the politicians didn't have the guts to make themselves.
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Reply #11 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:12am
 
You want to make a major change to society then you have a responsibility and duty to ask society not simply ram some idiotic change down their throat.
Pity the debate was so dishonest though eh and that the tiny minority had the useful idiots supporting them in numbers for no reason.
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Reply #12 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:42am
 
So 5.7% of 0.2 of Australia's population made these MAJOR changes.

I still dont believe the final result of 62%, although its law and I respect it, I don't believe it.

WHY.........???

Anglos majority would have said no

Europeans majority would have said no

Asians majority would have said no

Muslims majority would have said no

IMO

So where did the 62% come from....???

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Reply #13 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:08am
 
Ajax wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:42am:
So 5.7% of 0.2 of Australia's population made these MAJOR changes.

I still dont believe the final result of 62%, although its law and I respect it, I don't believe it.

WHY.........???

Anglos majority would have said no

Europeans majority would have said no

Asians majority would have said no

Muslims majority would have said no

IMO

So where did the 62% come from....???



Rational people

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Reply #14 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:10am
 
Certainly not sensible people Spot. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I have heard the rational argument...  Oh FFS these people won't go away till we give them what they want.
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Reply #15 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:21am
 
Grendel wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:10am:
Certainly not sensible people Spot. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I have heard the rational argument...  Oh FFS these people won't go away till we give them what they want.



that was pretty much what happened   I feel!  I voted NO in the end  because I was sick of being told  I had to vote YES..  thats  what I HAD TO DO....and I didnt like what was happening in the lead up to the postal....far too aggressive  for my liking...

however  my intention was to vote yes and get the bloody thing off the govt priority list.... bad attitude I know...but seriously the years and time it took up....pinged me off....I couldnt careless what they do to be honest its  none of my business......

but when the running of the country stops  to talk about it... grrrrrrrrrrrr
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Reply #16 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:29am
 
Grendel wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:12am:
You want to make a major change to society then you have a responsibility and duty to ask society not simply ram some idiotic change down their throat.
Pity the debate was so dishonest though eh and that the tiny minority had the useful idiots supporting them in numbers for no reason.


Major change to society - when did that happen?

Society is functioning just the same as it did before.

Have I missed something?


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Reply #17 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:36am
 
Similarly to cods, I was going to vote yes until the campaign got under way with all its vicious cat-fighting and bitchery and whining and complaining.... my reason originally was that it did no harm and might do some good - but seeing as the specific demographic demonstrated clearly in the lead-up to this non-binding vote that they were scarcely a responsible and adult lot - I reversed my decision, since if they were unable to sustain a reasoned argument, they were not constitutionally capable of upholding the responsibilities of marriage.

On the other hand I'm still waiting for an invitation from a reasonable gay pair I know to their marriage... maybe we should just restrict gay marriage to those capable of upholding it properly.

Nothing to do with heterosexual divorce etc - separate issue - always was and still is.
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Reply #18 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:45pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:08am:
Ajax wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:42am:
So 5.7% of 0.2 of Australia's population made these MAJOR changes.

I still dont believe the final result of 62%, although its law and I respect it, I don't believe it.

WHY.........???

Anglos majority would have said no

Europeans majority would have said no

Asians majority would have said no

Muslims majority would have said no

IMO

So where did the 62% come from....???



Rational people

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What's rational about institutionalizing sodomy?
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Reply #19 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:47pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:29am:
Grendel wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:12am:
You want to make a major change to society then you have a responsibility and duty to ask society not simply ram some idiotic change down their throat.
Pity the debate was so dishonest though eh and that the tiny minority had the useful idiots supporting them in numbers for no reason.


Major change to society - when did that happen?

Society is functioning just the same as it did before.

Have I missed something?



You missed everything but we all know you're only lying so carry on  Cheesy
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Reply #20 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:52pm
 
AnotherJourneyByTrain wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:47pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:29am:
Grendel wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:12am:
You want to make a major change to society then you have a responsibility and duty to ask society not simply ram some idiotic change down their throat.
Pity the debate was so dishonest though eh and that the tiny minority had the useful idiots supporting them in numbers for no reason.


Major change to society - when did that happen?

Society is functioning just the same as it did before.

Have I missed something?



You missed everything but we all know you're only lying so carry on  Cheesy


Where's the major change to society?

I haven't seen it.

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Reply #21 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:55pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:52pm:
AnotherJourneyByTrain wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:47pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:29am:
Grendel wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:12am:
You want to make a major change to society then you have a responsibility and duty to ask society not simply ram some idiotic change down their throat.
Pity the debate was so dishonest though eh and that the tiny minority had the useful idiots supporting them in numbers for no reason.


Major change to society - when did that happen?

Society is functioning just the same as it did before.

Have I missed something?



You missed everything but we all know you're only lying so carry on  Cheesy


Where's the major change to society?

I haven't seen it.


Roll Eyes
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Reply #22 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 4:43pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:52pm:
AnotherJourneyByTrain wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:47pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:29am:
Grendel wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:12am:
You want to make a major change to society then you have a responsibility and duty to ask society not simply ram some idiotic change down their throat.
Pity the debate was so dishonest though eh and that the tiny minority had the useful idiots supporting them in numbers for no reason.


Major change to society - when did that happen?

Society is functioning just the same as it did before.

Have I missed something?



You missed everything but we all know you're only lying so carry on  Cheesy


Where's the major change to society?

I haven't seen it.




all its done is upset the Lesbians...  Grin

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Lesbians Hijack London Gay Pride Parade – Force Mayor Khan to Walk Behind Them

transphobic
lesbians  Grin hijacked the London Gay Pride Parade on Saturday.

The lesbian group is anti-transactivism.
They believe the trans movement is a threat to lesbianism.


Sadiq Khan cut the ribbon to start this year’s parade… but was quickly pushed behind the radical lesbians.

Pink News reported:

Mayor of London Sadiq Khan has condemned protesters who hijacked the Pride in London parade and distributed anti-transgender resources.

PinkNews reported live from the Pride in London march earlier today (July 7) as a group of radical feminist campaigners forced their way into the front of the march.

After brief negotiations Pride in London organisers took the decision not to remove the protesters, who subsequently led the Pride parade across much of its route bearing the sign
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…The Mayor was initially meant to lead the march, but for much of the route was stuck behind the protesters.

The decision to allow the protesters to take the head of the Pride parade has led to strong criticism of Pride in London, with some LGBT campaigners calling on organisers to resign.

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This is a betrayal of the thousands marching. The Pride organisers should resign and offer a full apology.”


dear lord... how many times do these fruitcakes have to "Come Out" ...  Roll Eyes

Melbourne City council is going to spend another 70 Thousand Dollars on another "Coming Out" party for the queers again this year... and they want to continue it every year...

just pissing tax payers money away... ffs..  Roll Eyes
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Reply #23 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 4:54pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:29am:
Grendel wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:12am:
You want to make a major change to society then you have a responsibility and duty to ask society not simply ram some idiotic change down their throat.
Pity the debate was so dishonest though eh and that the tiny minority had the useful idiots supporting them in numbers for no reason.


Major change to society - when did that happen?

Society is functioning just the same as it did before.

Have I missed something?



oh dear
YOU get so many things wrong don't you.
I'd give you advice like THINK ABOUT IT...  but that would simply be a waste of time. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #24 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:00pm
 

It was not such a boom as a lot of little bangs
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Reply #25 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:08pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 4:54pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:29am:
Grendel wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:12am:
You want to make a major change to society then you have a responsibility and duty to ask society not simply ram some idiotic change down their throat.
Pity the debate was so dishonest though eh and that the tiny minority had the useful idiots supporting them in numbers for no reason.


Major change to society - when did that happen?

Society is functioning just the same as it did before.

Have I missed something?



oh dear
YOU get so many things wrong don't you.
I'd give you advice like THINK ABOUT IT...  but that would simply be a waste of time. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


So, no major change to society?

I thought so.
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Reply #26 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:11pm
 
miketrees wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:00pm:
It was not such a boom as a lot of little bangs



A lot of bum banging for sure.
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Reply #27 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:16pm
 
Bobby wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:11pm:
miketrees wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:00pm:
It was not such a boom as a lot of little bangs



A lot of bum banging for sure.


Booby's fascination continues.

When I think of SSM, I imagine two sexy women kissing.

Booby, on the other hand, imagines two men having anal sex.

That says a lot.

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Reply #28 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:20pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:16pm:
Bobby wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:11pm:
miketrees wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:00pm:
It was not such a boom as a lot of little bangs



A lot of bum banging for sure.


Booby's fascination continues.

When I think of SSM, I imagine two sexy women kissing.

Bobby, on the other hand, imagines two men having anal sex.

That says a lot.




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Reply #29 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:22pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:08pm:
Grendel wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 4:54pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:29am:
Grendel wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:12am:
You want to make a major change to society then you have a responsibility and duty to ask society not simply ram some idiotic change down their throat.
Pity the debate was so dishonest though eh and that the tiny minority had the useful idiots supporting them in numbers for no reason.


Major change to society - when did that happen?

Society is functioning just the same as it did before.

Have I missed something?



oh dear
YOU get so many things wrong don't you.
I'd give you advice like THINK ABOUT IT...  but that would simply be a waste of time. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


So, no major change to society?

I thought so.

Even for a TROLL you make a pretty big idiot. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #30 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:22pm
 
Ajax wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:42am:
So 5.7% of 0.2 of Australia's population made these MAJOR changes.

I still dont believe the final result of 62%, although its law and I respect it, I don't believe it.

WHY.........???

Anglos majority would have said no

Europeans majority would have said no

Asians majority would have said no

Muslims majority would have said no

IMO

So where did the 62% come from....???


Same train of thought as those that said yes to the aborigines becoming citizens of Australia. Just that there was no reason to deny someone a right to become married because of their sexuality. The only difference was that it was a 60/40 vote for gay marriage, rather than the 90/10 vote for aboriginal citizenship.
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Reply #31 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:27pm
 
Bobby wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:20pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:16pm:
Bobby wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:11pm:
miketrees wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:00pm:
It was not such a boom as a lot of little bangs



A lot of bum banging for sure.


Booby's fascination continues.

When I think of SSM, I imagine two sexy women kissing.

Bobby, on the other hand, imagines two men having anal sex.

That says a lot.




yuck


Yes.

The thought of two sexy women kissing disgusts you.

No surprises there, Booby.

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Grendel wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:22pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:08pm:
Grendel wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 4:54pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:29am:
Grendel wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:12am:
You want to make a major change to society then you have a responsibility and duty to ask society not simply ram some idiotic change down their throat.
Pity the debate was so dishonest though eh and that the tiny minority had the useful idiots supporting them in numbers for no reason.


Major change to society - when did that happen?

Society is functioning just the same as it did before.

Have I missed something?



oh dear
YOU get so many things wrong don't you.
I'd give you advice like THINK ABOUT IT...  but that would simply be a waste of time. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


So, no major change to society?

I thought so.

Even for a TROLL you make a pretty big idiot. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Are you going to explain this major change to society, or are you going to keep us all guessing?

I'm curious.
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Reply #33 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 9:13pm
 
Are you going to engage your brain in the process of intelligent thought or keep asking me stupid questions?

Cause I'm pretty sure you are the only one who is clueless on this.
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Reply #34 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 9:39pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jul 7th, 2018 at 10:49pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jul 7th, 2018 at 9:59pm:
What happened to the same sex marriage boom?

Another made up bit of fake news.

Nobody said or expected a same sex marriage boom.

On the other side of the coin the supporters could rightly argue that the world didn't end either ?

Rubbish read the article... or maybe go back and read some of the pro SSM garbage spouted before that is posted on this site.


The vast majority just said that it was the right thing to do - end of story.
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Vast majority?
I don't think so.

Many idiotic so-called Conservatives voted for it to shut you people up.
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Even the homos now realize what an utterly ridiculous and bizarre thing it is for two people of the same sex to get married, it would be just as ridiculous for one person to marry them self, the poofs got into a tiff and went flying off on a tangent as they do, being weirdos. They are now and will forever be ridiculed and mocked for their weirdness.
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Reply #37 - Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:03am
 
cods wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:21am:
Grendel wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:10am:
Certainly not sensible people Spot. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I have heard the rational argument...  Oh FFS these people won't go away till we give them what they want.



that was pretty much what happened   I feel!  I voted NO in the end  because I was sick of being told  I had to vote YES..  thats  what I HAD TO DO....and I didnt like what was happening in the lead up to the postal....far too aggressive  for my liking...

however  my intention was to vote yes and get the bloody thing off the govt priority list.... bad attitude I know...but seriously the years and time it took up....pinged me off....I couldnt careless what they do to be honest its  none of my business......

but when the running of the country stops  to talk about it... grrrrrrrrrrrr


Seriously. You voted no because you were sick of being told to vote yes? How the f.uck does that work?

"I intended to vote yes but I was told to vote yes so I'm going to vote no instead."
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Reply #38 - Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:10am
 
xeej wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 3:03am:
Even the homos now realize what an utterly ridiculous and bizarre thing it is for two people of the same sex to get married, it would be just as ridiculous for one person to marry them self, the poofs got into a tiff and went flying off on a tangent as they do, being weirdos. They are now and will forever be ridiculed and mocked for their weirdness.


Really? What makes you say that?

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Reply #39 - Jul 9th, 2018 at 8:52am
 
Ajax wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:42am:
So 5.7% of 0.2
(0.0114 %)
of Australia's population
made these
MAJOR changes.

I still dont believe the final result of 62% ...







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Gnads wrote on Jul 7th, 2018 at 6:58pm:



… and ANOTHER demented rant, from the same illiterate, far-right loon Tongue

https://www.spectator.com.au/2018/03/whats-left-to-like-at-the-abc/




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Reply #41 - Jul 9th, 2018 at 9:18am
 
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Vast majority?
I don't think so.

Many idiotic so-called Conservatives voted for it to shut you people up.


A large majority voted in favour of it.

And, there's been no "major change to society" as a result.

Life goes on, just the same as it did before.
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Reply #42 - Jul 9th, 2018 at 12:00pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:22pm:
Ajax wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:42am:
So 5.7% of 0.2 of Australia's population made these MAJOR changes.

I still dont believe the final result of 62%, although its law and I respect it, I don't believe it.

WHY.........???

Anglos majority would have said no

Europeans majority would have said no

Asians majority would have said no

Muslims majority would have said no

IMO

So where did the 62% come from....???


Same train of thought as those that said yes to the aborigines becoming citizens of Australia. Just that there was no reason to deny someone a right to become married because of their sexuality. The only difference was that it was a 60/40 vote for gay marriage, rather than the 90/10 vote for aboriginal citizenship.


Let's not go over the definition of marriage and under what circumstances it may be entered into... not again.... there is no right to become married.... it's a matter of personal choice bounded by rules...

Rules?  In a knife fight?


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Reply #43 - Jul 9th, 2018 at 12:02pm
 
Say.... what was that noise?

I think it was gay marriage breaking the sound sense barrier......
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Gay marriage is a symbolic way of getting the public to accept homosexuality.
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Reply #45 - Jul 9th, 2018 at 1:42pm
 
xeej wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 3:03am:
Even the homos now realize what an utterly ridiculous and bizarre thing it is for two people of the same sex to get married, it would be just as ridiculous for one person to marry them self, the poofs got into a tiff and went flying off on a tangent as they do, being weirdos. They are now and will forever be ridiculed and mocked for their weirdness.

This is your strongest comment ever: although I must admit I haven't read all your comments but this one I highly recommend as a very good one!

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Reply #46 - Jul 9th, 2018 at 1:43pm
 
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Gay marriage is a symbolic way of getting the public to accept homosexuality.

**** Exactly, that's the problem: it was a dodgy affair!

It reeked of hypocrisy and absolute shysterism.... no one will ever forget how dodgy it was!
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Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:10am:
xeej wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 3:03am:
Even the homos now realize what an utterly ridiculous and bizarre thing it is for two people of the same sex to get married, it would be just as ridiculous for one person to marry them self, the poofs got into a tiff and went flying off on a tangent as they do, being weirdos. They are now and will forever be ridiculed and mocked for their weirdness.


Really? What makes you say that?

Spot

The fact that they aren't all rushing out to get married.... the facts are most of them are digusted by their own sexuality and will never bother getting married out of their own shame!

Go on, tell me I'm wrong  Grin
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Dnarever wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 9:39pm:
Grendel wrote on Jul 7th, 2018 at 10:49pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jul 7th, 2018 at 9:59pm:
What happened to the same sex marriage boom?

Another made up bit of fake news.

Nobody said or expected a same sex marriage boom.

On the other side of the coin the supporters could rightly argue that the world didn't end either ?

Rubbish read the article... or maybe go back and read some of the pro SSM garbage spouted before that is posted on this site.


The vast majority just said that it was the right thing to do - end of story.

What was the percentage of people who didn't vote again?

You should double- check your numbers before you get all pretend scientific brutha  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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AnotherJourneyByTrain wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:47pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:29am:
Grendel wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:12am:
You want to make a major change to society then you have a responsibility and duty to ask society not simply ram some idiotic change down their throat.
Pity the debate was so dishonest though eh and that the tiny minority had the useful idiots supporting them in numbers for no reason.


Major change to society - when did that happen?

Society is functioning just the same as it did before.

Have I missed something?



You missed everything but we all know you're only lying so carry on  Cheesy


Where's the major change to society?

I haven't seen it.


You mentioned it and still pretend you haven't seen it: you can only trick the odd kid every now and again but that's alright for boring criminal vico park scum like you!
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Reply #50 - Jul 9th, 2018 at 2:04pm
 
AnotherJourneyByTrain wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 1:45pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:10am:
xeej wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 3:03am:
Even the homos now realize what an utterly ridiculous and bizarre thing it is for two people of the same sex to get married, it would be just as ridiculous for one person to marry them self, the poofs got into a tiff and went flying off on a tangent as they do, being weirdos. They are now and will forever be ridiculed and mocked for their weirdness.


Really? What makes you say that?

Spot

The fact that they aren't all rushing out to get married.... the facts are most of them are digusted by their own sexuality and will never bother getting married out of their own shame!

Go on, tell me I'm wrong  Grin


You are wrong.

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Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 2:04pm:
AnotherJourneyByTrain wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 1:45pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:10am:
xeej wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 3:03am:
Even the homos now realize what an utterly ridiculous and bizarre thing it is for two people of the same sex to get married, it would be just as ridiculous for one person to marry them self, the poofs got into a tiff and went flying off on a tangent as they do, being weirdos. They are now and will forever be ridiculed and mocked for their weirdness.


Really? What makes you say that?

Spot

The fact that they aren't all rushing out to get married.... the facts are most of them are digusted by their own sexuality and will never bother getting married out of their own shame!

Go on, tell me I'm wrong  Grin


You are wrong.

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No I'm not--->  Wink
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Reply #52 - Jul 9th, 2018 at 7:08pm
 
The Mechanic wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 4:43pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:52pm:
AnotherJourneyByTrain wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:47pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:29am:
Grendel wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:12am:
You want to make a major change to society then you have a responsibility and duty to ask society not simply ram some idiotic change down their throat.
Pity the debate was so dishonest though eh and that the tiny minority had the useful idiots supporting them in numbers for no reason.


Major change to society - when did that happen?

Society is functioning just the same as it did before.

Have I missed something?



You missed everything but we all know you're only lying so carry on  Cheesy


Where's the major change to society?

I haven't seen it.




all its done is upset the Lesbians...  Grin

Quote:
Lesbians Hijack London Gay Pride Parade – Force Mayor Khan to Walk Behind Them

transphobic
lesbians  Grin hijacked the London Gay Pride Parade on Saturday.

The lesbian group is anti-transactivism.
They believe the trans movement is a threat to lesbianism.


Sadiq Khan cut the ribbon to start this year’s parade… but was quickly pushed behind the radical lesbians.

Pink News reported:

Mayor of London Sadiq Khan has condemned protesters who hijacked the Pride in London parade and distributed anti-transgender resources.

PinkNews reported live from the Pride in London march earlier today (July 7) as a group of radical feminist campaigners forced their way into the front of the march.

After brief negotiations Pride in London organisers took the decision not to remove the protesters, who subsequently led the Pride parade across much of its route bearing the sign
“Transactivism erases lesbians” while distributing anti-transgender leaflets…


…The Mayor was initially meant to lead the march, but for much of the route was stuck behind the protesters.

The decision to allow the protesters to take the head of the Pride parade has led to strong criticism of Pride in London, with some LGBT campaigners calling on organisers to resign.

LGBT+ Lib Dems. Chair Jennie Rigg said “I am appalled that transphobic protesters were allowed to lead the march and the crowd asked to cheer them on.

This is a betrayal of the thousands marching. The Pride organisers should resign and offer a full apology.”


dear lord... how many times do these fruitcakes have to "Come Out" ...  Roll Eyes

Melbourne City council is going to spend another 70 Thousand Dollars on another "Coming Out" party for the queers again this year... and they want to continue it every year...

just pissing tax payers money away... ffs..  Roll Eyes


Not only a threat to Lesbianism ,,,, its' threat to womens sports & even a big threat to womens pageants .....

as they've just crowned their first transgender Miss Universe Spains Angela Ponce( Grin Grin ponce)

So despite all the whinging & whining, man bashing, diversity, equality & quotas for women .........


it turns out that men are even better at being women than women.  Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #53 - Jul 9th, 2018 at 7:13pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 9:09am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 7th, 2018 at 6:58pm:



… and ANOTHER demented rant, from the same illiterate, far-right loon Tongue

https://www.spectator.com.au/2018/03/whats-left-to-like-at-the-abc/






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Reply #54 - Jul 9th, 2018 at 7:22pm
 
There is only ONE Political (region) Nation on this planet
and that is the USA (Nth America).

The UK is nothing more than a Political 'colony' of the USA over in Europe.

...which means Australia is a Political FALSE PROPHET.
A lie. A corrupt impersonator. A fraud. Imposter.
More evil than Terrorism, Communism and more ...because it is a near exact 'reflection' of the USA (Politics).

So yes - the Same-Sex Marriage vote was 'fraudulant', but so are everything else that comes out of Australia's POLITICAL INDUSTRY.
They are not Politicians - they are 'imposters', false impersonators, who just put on a show for the Media and get paid a lot for it.

Face it.
The UK/Eire was over there in the 'West' of Europe.
Thus the true 'West' of the USA emerged 'west' of them.

Australia on the other hand is 'East' (of Eden), let alone 'south' as well.
If any part of Europe is truly reflective of Australia's future - it is the
Eastern European
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.JaSin. wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 7:22pm:
There is only ONE Political (region) Nation on this planet
and that is the USA (Nth America).

The UK is nothing more than a Political 'colony' of the USA over in Europe.

...which means Australia is a Political FALSE PROPHET.
A lie. A corrupt impersonator. A fraud. Imposter.
More evil than Terrorism, Communism and more ...because it is a near exact 'reflection' of the USA (Politics).

So yes - the Same-Sex Marriage vote was 'fraudulant', but so are everything else that comes out of Australia's POLITICAL INDUSTRY.
They are not Politicians - they are 'imposters', false impersonators, who just put on a show for the Media and get paid a lot for it.

Face it.
The UK/Eire was over there in the 'West' of Europe.
Thus the true 'West' of the USA emerged 'west' of them.

Australia on the other hand is 'East' (of Eden), let alone 'south' as well.
If any part of Europe is truly reflective of Australia's future - it is the
Eastern European
nations.  Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink

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They learnt how to be from the Yanks & Poms.

It's all a boys club you know?

They've signed us all up for globalisation.
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Reply #56 - Jul 9th, 2018 at 7:31pm
 
Gnads wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 7:25pm:
.JaSin. wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 7:22pm:
There is only ONE Political (region) Nation on this planet
and that is the USA (Nth America).

The UK is nothing more than a Political 'colony' of the USA over in Europe.

...which means Australia is a Political FALSE PROPHET.
A lie. A corrupt impersonator. A fraud. Imposter.
More evil than Terrorism, Communism and more ...because it is a near exact 'reflection' of the USA (Politics).

So yes - the Same-Sex Marriage vote was 'fraudulant', but so are everything else that comes out of Australia's POLITICAL INDUSTRY.
They are not Politicians - they are 'imposters', false impersonators, who just put on a show for the Media and get paid a lot for it.

Face it.
The UK/Eire was over there in the 'West' of Europe.
Thus the true 'West' of the USA emerged 'west' of them.

Australia on the other hand is 'East' (of Eden), let alone 'south' as well.
If any part of Europe is truly reflective of Australia's future - it is the
Eastern European
nations.  Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink

Australian Politicians are the CRIMINALSAngry


They learnt how to be from the Yanks & Poms.

It's all a boys club you know?

They've signed us all up for globalisation.


An Anglo-saxon global 'empire' would be the most RACIST OF ALL RACISMS, if that were the case.

I put my fellow Black, Yellow, Red, Green, Brown, Blue, Grey Australians before my 'white' FOREIGN versions overseas.
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Reply #57 - Jul 9th, 2018 at 10:45pm
 
Gnads wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 7:13pm:
buzzanddidj wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 9:09am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 7th, 2018 at 6:58pm:



… and ANOTHER demented rant, from the same illiterate, far-right loon Tongue

https://www.spectator.com.au/2018/03/whats-left-to-like-at-the-abc/






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I was referring  to the blogger, from the "Spectator"
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Reply #58 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 8:57am
 
Well, what happened to that hell is going to freeze over, and people is going to be turned gay en mass after legalization? 

Get over it boys.  Same sex marriage is now legal.
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tickleandrose wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 8:57am:
Well, what happened to that hell is going to freeze over, and people is going to be turned gay en mass after legalization? 

Get over it boys.  Same sex marriage is now legal. 

Yeah what happened to that... I never heard that from anyone except those supporting the SSM push.

Like I always said...  NOT EVEN THE MAJORITY OF GAYS WANT TO MARRY... guess that is being born out eh.
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Grendel wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:06am:
tickleandrose wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 8:57am:
Well, what happened to that hell is going to freeze over, and people is going to be turned gay en mass after legalization? 

Get over it boys.  Same sex marriage is now legal. 

Yeah what happened to that... I never heard that from anyone except those supporting the SSM push.

Like I always said...  NOT EVEN THE MAJORITY OF GAYS WANT TO MARRY... guess that is being born out eh.


It is not a matter of how many wants to get married.  It is a matter of the right to get married when or if they choose.  It is about freedom and equality
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Grendel wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:06am:
tickleandrose wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 8:57am:
Well, what happened to that hell is going to freeze over, and people is going to be turned gay en mass after legalization? 

Get over it boys.  Same sex marriage is now legal. 

Yeah what happened to that... I never heard that from anyone except those supporting the SSM push.

Like I always said...  NOT EVEN THE MAJORITY OF GAYS WANT TO MARRY... guess that is being born out eh.


Perhaps they like to have long engagements - like a lot of heteros? Actually how do you know gays arent getting married?

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tickleandrose wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:24am:
Grendel wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:06am:
tickleandrose wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 8:57am:
Well, what happened to that hell is going to freeze over, and people is going to be turned gay en mass after legalization? 

Get over it boys.  Same sex marriage is now legal. 

Yeah what happened to that... I never heard that from anyone except those supporting the SSM push.

Like I always said...  NOT EVEN THE MAJORITY OF GAYS WANT TO MARRY... guess that is being born out eh.


It is not a matter of how many wants to get married.  It is a matter of the right to get married when or if they choose.  It is about freedom and equality 


Yes and spouse "rights".

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tickleandrose wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:24am:
Grendel wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:06am:
tickleandrose wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 8:57am:
Well, what happened to that hell is going to freeze over, and people is going to be turned gay en mass after legalization? 

Get over it boys.  Same sex marriage is now legal. 

Yeah what happened to that... I never heard that from anyone except those supporting the SSM push.

Like I always said...  NOT EVEN THE MAJORITY OF GAYS WANT TO MARRY... guess that is being born out eh.


It is not a matter of how many wants to get married.  It is a matter of the right to get married when or if they choose.  It is about freedom and equality 


Yes and spouse "rights".

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Reply #64 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:48am
 
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:47am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:31am:
tickleandrose wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:24am:
Grendel wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:06am:
tickleandrose wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 8:57am:
Well, what happened to that hell is going to freeze over, and people is going to be turned gay en mass after legalization? 

Get over it boys.  Same sex marriage is now legal. 

Yeah what happened to that... I never heard that from anyone except those supporting the SSM push.

Like I always said...  NOT EVEN THE MAJORITY OF GAYS WANT TO MARRY... guess that is being born out eh.


It is not a matter of how many wants to get married.  It is a matter of the right to get married when or if they choose.  It is about freedom and equality 


Yes and spouse "rights".

Spot


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Business will be booming with that addition to the coffers.


Yeah, it might be.

So where's the problem?

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Was it really necessary .... really?
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So you do understand the principles that marriage between a man & woman was based on do you not?
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So you do understand the principles that marriage between a man & woman was based on do you not?


Is marriage between a man and a woman really necessary ... really?

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greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:09am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:50am:
Was it really necessary .... really?


Is marriage between a man and a woman really necessary ... really?



Not really in our modern and protected society, where children can prosper without families as long as they don't run foul of paedos and drugs and street life etc, and families can be a single parent or a mingled mangled mass with higher daily casualties - but the difference is in the way the institution of marriage was installed initially......  marriage, like such things as law and other similar things, was organised to fit a specific set of circumstances..... like law, changing it needed a clear and present reason supported, in a democracy, by the views of the masses.

The continuing argument is over the virtue of a postal non-binding survey being used as the justification for changing that established institution.  All the usual whining about teenagers threatening suicide and other mental deficiencies seems to have subsided now, and we are only left with the Usual Suspect trannie etc going the rat with an axe or similar due to hormonal, drug-related, and hysterical problems that should be treated in a different manner and arena.

The slow pace of 'gay marriage' is most likely due to their deeper-seated unwillingness to 'commit', and their preference in most cases for a free range lifestyle (and sometimes deathstyle)...... as for Bill's suicides - if they're gonna do it - they're gonna do it, and nothing will stop them.

Next round will be the same (pissy little) emotional blackmailers threatening suicide because of their serial 'unsuccessful' relationships lifestyle and 'how terribly they're treated by society and are bashed on every corner etc'... when they want to take the long jump, nothing can stop them, and the world is already full of nut cases.   Cool
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So you do understand the principles that marriage between a man & woman was based on do you not?



Yes - he does - and is unwilling to discuss the issue of any genuine compelling reason to change it.  Gays should be content to be tolerated and enjoy a far lower rate of personal direct violence than heterosexual men, who suffer the most such incidence, not least of all from their own government and its agencies set up to ensure peace and rule of law.

Jeez - they even get affirmative action, and wait until Labor gets the hot seat and forces its 50% women on us - then 3% gays, 2.6% Muslims, 3% Aboriginals... maybe the Token African here and there, as long as she isn't White and part of The Oppressor Race ....
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Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:54am:
So you do understand the principles that marriage between a man & woman was based on do you not?


Based on love for each other and a desire to spend their lives together and by doing it legally they have recourse if soemthing happens to the partner?

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Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:09am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:50am:
Was it really necessary .... really?


Is marriage between a man and a woman really necessary ... really?



Not really - but the difference is in the way the institution of marriage was installed initially......  marriage, like such things as law and other similar things, was organised to fit a specific set of circumstances..... like law, changing it needed a clear and present reason supported, in a democracy, by the views of the masses.

The continuing argument is over the virtue of a postal non-binding survey being used as the justification for changing that established institution.  All the usual whining about teenagers threatening suicide and other mental deficiencies seems to have subsided now, and we are only left with the Usual Suspect trannie etc going the rat with an axe or similar due to hormonal, drug-related, and hysterical problems that should be treated in a different manner and arena.

The slow pace of 'gay marriage' is most likely due to their deeper-seated unwillingness to 'commit', and their preference in most cases for a free range lifestyle (and sometimes deathstyle)...... as for Bill's suicides - if they're gonna do it - they're gonna do it, and nothing will stop them.

Next round will be the same (pissy little) emotional blackmailers threatening suicide because of their serial 'unsuccessful' relationships lifestyle and 'how terribly they're treated by society and are bashed on every corner etc'... when they want to take the long jump, nothing can stop them, and the world is already full of nut cases. 
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marriage has been falling out of favour over the last few years- does it cement the bonds that bind a couple- or will a good coupling just last regardless of the iron ring of nessecity
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Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:09am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:54am:
So you do understand the principles that marriage between a man & woman was based on do you not?


Based on love for each other and a desire to spend their lives together and by doing it legally they have recourse if soemthing happens to the partner?

Spot


Define love.... a desire to spend their lives together is not the reason and purpose of marriage, and recourse to accepted partner's chattels etc can be (and should be) legally protected without marriage.

None of these is a reason or justification for marriage... let's ask peccary about his full range of issues in his own marriage.. just for enlightenment...  was it purely because you wanted it, or it was it just pure 'love' (please define - like courage love has many aspects and approaches)... or were there other issues involved???
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Reply #75 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:19am
 
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:17am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:09am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:54am:
So you do understand the principles that marriage between a man & woman was based on do you not?


Based on love for each other and a desire to spend their lives together and by doing it legally they have recourse if soemthing happens to the partner?

Spot


Define love.... a desire to spend their lives together is not the reason and purpose of marriage, and recourse to accepted partner's chattels etc can be (and should be) legally protected without marriage.

None of these is a reason or justification for marriage... let's ask peccary about his full range of issues in his own marriage.. just for enlightenment...  was it purely because you wanted it, or it was it just pure 'love' (please define - like courage love has many aspects and approaches)... or were there other issues involved???




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greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:10am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:09am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:50am:
Was it really necessary .... really?


Is marriage between a man and a woman really necessary ... really?



Not really - but the difference is in the way the institution of marriage was installed initially......  marriage, like such things as law and other similar things, was organised to fit a specific set of circumstances..... like law, changing it needed a clear and present reason supported, in a democracy, by the views of the masses.

The continuing argument is over the virtue of a postal non-binding survey being used as the justification for changing that established institution.  All the usual whining about teenagers threatening suicide and other mental deficiencies seems to have subsided now, and we are only left with the Usual Suspect trannie etc going the rat with an axe or similar due to hormonal, drug-related, and hysterical problems that should be treated in a different manner and arena.

The slow pace of 'gay marriage' is most likely due to their deeper-seated unwillingness to 'commit', and their preference in most cases for a free range lifestyle (and sometimes deathstyle)...... as for Bill's suicides - if they're gonna do it - they're gonna do it, and nothing will stop them.

Next round will be the same (pissy little) emotional blackmailers threatening suicide because of their serial 'unsuccessful' relationships lifestyle and 'how terribly they're treated by society and are bashed on every corner etc'... when they want to take the long jump, nothing can stop them, and the world is already full of nut cases. 
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Why?

Dozens of pieces of legislation get passed in parliament every year.

Why is it that this particular piece of legislation needed approval by the masses?



Because it was a 180 degree change in the definition of a mainstay of civilisation for millennia.  It wasn't just a 'piece of legislation' that needed a simple change for a valid reason...

Are you advocating dictatorship of the elected body?  Some Divine Right of Elected Government?  Are you sure you wish to go down that route?
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Reply #77 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:28am
 
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:25am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:10am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:09am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:50am:
Was it really necessary .... really?


Is marriage between a man and a woman really necessary ... really?



Not really - but the difference is in the way the institution of marriage was installed initially......  marriage, like such things as law and other similar things, was organised to fit a specific set of circumstances..... like law, changing it needed a clear and present reason supported, in a democracy, by the views of the masses.

The continuing argument is over the virtue of a postal non-binding survey being used as the justification for changing that established institution.  All the usual whining about teenagers threatening suicide and other mental deficiencies seems to have subsided now, and we are only left with the Usual Suspect trannie etc going the rat with an axe or similar due to hormonal, drug-related, and hysterical problems that should be treated in a different manner and arena.

The slow pace of 'gay marriage' is most likely due to their deeper-seated unwillingness to 'commit', and their preference in most cases for a free range lifestyle (and sometimes deathstyle)...... as for Bill's suicides - if they're gonna do it - they're gonna do it, and nothing will stop them.

Next round will be the same (pissy little) emotional blackmailers threatening suicide because of their serial 'unsuccessful' relationships lifestyle and 'how terribly they're treated by society and are bashed on every corner etc'... when they want to take the long jump, nothing can stop them, and the world is already full of nut cases. 
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Why?

Dozens of pieces of legislation get passed in parliament every year.

Why is it that this particular piece of legislation needed approval by the masses?



Because it was a 180 degree change in the definition of a mainstay of civilisation for millennia.  It wasn't just a 'piece of legislation' that needed a simple change for a valid reason...

Are you advocating dictatorship of the elected body?  Some Divine Right of Elected Government?  Are you sure you wish to go down that route?


No, it wasn't.

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Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:25am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:10am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:09am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:50am:
Was it really necessary .... really?


Is marriage between a man and a woman really necessary ... really?



Not really - but the difference is in the way the institution of marriage was installed initially......  marriage, like such things as law and other similar things, was organised to fit a specific set of circumstances..... like law, changing it needed a clear and present reason supported, in a democracy, by the views of the masses.

The continuing argument is over the virtue of a postal non-binding survey being used as the justification for changing that established institution.  All the usual whining about teenagers threatening suicide and other mental deficiencies seems to have subsided now, and we are only left with the Usual Suspect trannie etc going the rat with an axe or similar due to hormonal, drug-related, and hysterical problems that should be treated in a different manner and arena.

The slow pace of 'gay marriage' is most likely due to their deeper-seated unwillingness to 'commit', and their preference in most cases for a free range lifestyle (and sometimes deathstyle)...... as for Bill's suicides - if they're gonna do it - they're gonna do it, and nothing will stop them.

Next round will be the same (pissy little) emotional blackmailers threatening suicide because of their serial 'unsuccessful' relationships lifestyle and 'how terribly they're treated by society and are bashed on every corner etc'... when they want to take the long jump, nothing can stop them, and the world is already full of nut cases. 
 Cool


Why?

Dozens of pieces of legislation get passed in parliament every year.

Why is it that this particular piece of legislation needed approval by the masses?



Because it was a 180 degree change in the definition of a mainstay of civilisation for millennia.  It wasn't just a 'piece of legislation' that needed a simple change for a valid reason...

Are you advocating dictatorship of the elected body?  Some Divine Right of Elected Government?  Are you sure you wish to go down that route?


Yes, it was.
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Reply #79 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:32am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:28am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:25am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:10am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:09am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:50am:
Was it really necessary .... really?


Is marriage between a man and a woman really necessary ... really?



Not really - but the difference is in the way the institution of marriage was installed initially......  marriage, like such things as law and other similar things, was organised to fit a specific set of circumstances..... like law, changing it needed a clear and present reason supported, in a democracy, by the views of the masses.

The continuing argument is over the virtue of a postal non-binding survey being used as the justification for changing that established institution.  All the usual whining about teenagers threatening suicide and other mental deficiencies seems to have subsided now, and we are only left with the Usual Suspect trannie etc going the rat with an axe or similar due to hormonal, drug-related, and hysterical problems that should be treated in a different manner and arena.

The slow pace of 'gay marriage' is most likely due to their deeper-seated unwillingness to 'commit', and their preference in most cases for a free range lifestyle (and sometimes deathstyle)...... as for Bill's suicides - if they're gonna do it - they're gonna do it, and nothing will stop them.

Next round will be the same (pissy little) emotional blackmailers threatening suicide because of their serial 'unsuccessful' relationships lifestyle and 'how terribly they're treated by society and are bashed on every corner etc'... when they want to take the long jump, nothing can stop them, and the world is already full of nut cases. 
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Why?

Dozens of pieces of legislation get passed in parliament every year.

Why is it that this particular piece of legislation needed approval by the masses?



Because it was a 180 degree change in the definition of a mainstay of civilisation for millennia.  It wasn't just a 'piece of legislation' that needed a simple change for a valid reason...

Are you advocating dictatorship of the elected body?  Some Divine Right of Elected Government?  Are you sure you wish to go down that route?


No, it wasn't.



In reply I will quote the great philosopher Pauline:-  Please Explain?
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Truly the slipperiness of the eel is strong in this one......
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Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:32am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:28am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:25am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:10am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:09am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:50am:
Was it really necessary .... really?


Is marriage between a man and a woman really necessary ... really?



Not really - but the difference is in the way the institution of marriage was installed initially......  marriage, like such things as law and other similar things, was organised to fit a specific set of circumstances..... like law, changing it needed a clear and present reason supported, in a democracy, by the views of the masses.

The continuing argument is over the virtue of a postal non-binding survey being used as the justification for changing that established institution.  All the usual whining about teenagers threatening suicide and other mental deficiencies seems to have subsided now, and we are only left with the Usual Suspect trannie etc going the rat with an axe or similar due to hormonal, drug-related, and hysterical problems that should be treated in a different manner and arena.

The slow pace of 'gay marriage' is most likely due to their deeper-seated unwillingness to 'commit', and their preference in most cases for a free range lifestyle (and sometimes deathstyle)...... as for Bill's suicides - if they're gonna do it - they're gonna do it, and nothing will stop them.

Next round will be the same (pissy little) emotional blackmailers threatening suicide because of their serial 'unsuccessful' relationships lifestyle and 'how terribly they're treated by society and are bashed on every corner etc'... when they want to take the long jump, nothing can stop them, and the world is already full of nut cases. 
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Why?

Dozens of pieces of legislation get passed in parliament every year.

Why is it that this particular piece of legislation needed approval by the masses?



Because it was a 180 degree change in the definition of a mainstay of civilisation for millennia.  It wasn't just a 'piece of legislation' that needed a simple change for a valid reason...

Are you advocating dictatorship of the elected body?  Some Divine Right of Elected Government?  Are you sure you wish to go down that route?


No, it wasn't.



In reply I will quote the great philosopher Pauline:-  Please Explain?


It was a very minor change.

And, as you can see, the sky hasn't fallen in as a result.

There has been no "major change to society".

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Even this strand has called 'slow down'.... typical...
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:36am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:32am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:28am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:25am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:10am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:09am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:50am:
Was it really necessary .... really?


Is marriage between a man and a woman really necessary ... really?



Not really - but the difference is in the way the institution of marriage was installed initially......  marriage, like such things as law and other similar things, was organised to fit a specific set of circumstances..... like law, changing it needed a clear and present reason supported, in a democracy, by the views of the masses.

The continuing argument is over the virtue of a postal non-binding survey being used as the justification for changing that established institution.  All the usual whining about teenagers threatening suicide and other mental deficiencies seems to have subsided now, and we are only left with the Usual Suspect trannie etc going the rat with an axe or similar due to hormonal, drug-related, and hysterical problems that should be treated in a different manner and arena.

The slow pace of 'gay marriage' is most likely due to their deeper-seated unwillingness to 'commit', and their preference in most cases for a free range lifestyle (and sometimes deathstyle)...... as for Bill's suicides - if they're gonna do it - they're gonna do it, and nothing will stop them.

Next round will be the same (pissy little) emotional blackmailers threatening suicide because of their serial 'unsuccessful' relationships lifestyle and 'how terribly they're treated by society and are bashed on every corner etc'... when they want to take the long jump, nothing can stop them, and the world is already full of nut cases. 
 Cool


Why?

Dozens of pieces of legislation get passed in parliament every year.

Why is it that this particular piece of legislation needed approval by the masses?



Because it was a 180 degree change in the definition of a mainstay of civilisation for millennia.  It wasn't just a 'piece of legislation' that needed a simple change for a valid reason...

Are you advocating dictatorship of the elected body?  Some Divine Right of Elected Government?  Are you sure you wish to go down that route?


No, it wasn't.



In reply I will quote the great philosopher Pauline:-  Please Explain?


It was a very minor change.

And, as you can see, the sky hasn't fallen in as a result.

There has been no "major change to society".




We WERE discussing the lack of a mad rush by gays to marriage... and you have yet to offer the full reasoning behind your own choice to marry... the things weighed up are not simply "I want to" and "For Love"..... each of which is an ephemeral thing...

Surely when YOU entered your heterosexual marriage there was an expectation and even anticipation of the wonder of having children..... something that does not apply to gays in their natural environment (short of a relationship with  someone of the heterosexual persuasion).. all rights could be protected under existing rules for co-habitation... it seems gays were not happy to register as 'co-habiting - perhaps for tax or social security purposes...

I mean - what 'trannie' wants to lose some Pension for DSP by declaring self as 'married' to a rich guy?  What gay couple living on the borderline of the economy (and there are quite a few - many do 'casual' such as living telegrams etc and even call person work) wants to reduce NewStart payment by declaring self as part of a duo?

https://www.oversixty.com.au/finance/money-banking/2017/12/centrelink-targeting-...

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/by%20Subject/2071.0~2016~Main%20F...
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Reply #84 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 12:39pm
 
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:33am:
Truly the slipperiness of the eel is strong in this one......

I don't think its the slipperiness of the eel in this one, it seems to be the density of the wood.

Gweggy thinks changing society and its norms is a minor thing. Roll Eyes

He apparently thinks that we should change society for a minority of a minority as a true democracy would... Cheesy
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Reply #85 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 12:39pm
 
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 12:28pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:36am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:32am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:28am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:25am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:10am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:09am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:50am:
Was it really necessary .... really?


Is marriage between a man and a woman really necessary ... really?



Not really - but the difference is in the way the institution of marriage was installed initially......  marriage, like such things as law and other similar things, was organised to fit a specific set of circumstances..... like law, changing it needed a clear and present reason supported, in a democracy, by the views of the masses.

The continuing argument is over the virtue of a postal non-binding survey being used as the justification for changing that established institution.  All the usual whining about teenagers threatening suicide and other mental deficiencies seems to have subsided now, and we are only left with the Usual Suspect trannie etc going the rat with an axe or similar due to hormonal, drug-related, and hysterical problems that should be treated in a different manner and arena.

The slow pace of 'gay marriage' is most likely due to their deeper-seated unwillingness to 'commit', and their preference in most cases for a free range lifestyle (and sometimes deathstyle)...... as for Bill's suicides - if they're gonna do it - they're gonna do it, and nothing will stop them.

Next round will be the same (pissy little) emotional blackmailers threatening suicide because of their serial 'unsuccessful' relationships lifestyle and 'how terribly they're treated by society and are bashed on every corner etc'... when they want to take the long jump, nothing can stop them, and the world is already full of nut cases. 
 Cool


Why?

Dozens of pieces of legislation get passed in parliament every year.

Why is it that this particular piece of legislation needed approval by the masses?



Because it was a 180 degree change in the definition of a mainstay of civilisation for millennia.  It wasn't just a 'piece of legislation' that needed a simple change for a valid reason...

Are you advocating dictatorship of the elected body?  Some Divine Right of Elected Government?  Are you sure you wish to go down that route?


No, it wasn't.



In reply I will quote the great philosopher Pauline:-  Please Explain?


It was a very minor change.

And, as you can see, the sky hasn't fallen in as a result.

There has been no "major change to society".




We WERE discussing the lack of a mad rush by gays to marriage... and you have yet to offer the full reasoning behind your own choice to marry... the things weighed up are not simply "I want to" and "For Love"..... each of which is an ephemeral thing...


Surely when YOU entered your heterosexual marriage there was an expectation and even anticipation of the wonder of having children..... something that does not apply to gays in their natural environment (short of a relationship with  someone of the heterosexual persuasion).. all rights could be protected under existing rules for co-habitation... it seems gays were not happy to register as 'co-habiting - perhaps for tax or social security purposes...

I mean - what 'trannie' wants to lose some Pension for DSP by declaring self as 'married' to a rich guy?  What gay couple living on the borderline of the economy (and there are quite a few - many do 'casual' such as living telegrams etc and even call person work) wants to reduce NewStart payment by declaring self as part of a duo?


https://www.oversixty.com.au/finance/money-banking/2017/12/centrelink-targeting-...

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/by%20Subject/2071.0~2016~Main%20F...


No.

It was the last thing on our minds.

It wasn't even on our minds.

We were both young, with high-paying jobs, and we went to restaurants, pubs, and nightclubs every single day of the week.

Children would not have suited our partying lifestyle.

We married for love (and maybe to keep her Mum happy).

However, after a couple of years we grew tired of our extravagant lifestyle and decided to have kids.

It certainly wasn't why we got married, though.

And, I'm pretty sure women who are not married can still conceive.

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Reply #87 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 12:43pm
 
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 12:28pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:36am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:32am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:28am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:25am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:10am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:09am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:50am:
Was it really necessary .... really?


Is marriage between a man and a woman really necessary ... really?



Not really - but the difference is in the way the institution of marriage was installed initially......  marriage, like such things as law and other similar things, was organised to fit a specific set of circumstances..... like law, changing it needed a clear and present reason supported, in a democracy, by the views of the masses.

The continuing argument is over the virtue of a postal non-binding survey being used as the justification for changing that established institution.  All the usual whining about teenagers threatening suicide and other mental deficiencies seems to have subsided now, and we are only left with the Usual Suspect trannie etc going the rat with an axe or similar due to hormonal, drug-related, and hysterical problems that should be treated in a different manner and arena.

The slow pace of 'gay marriage' is most likely due to their deeper-seated unwillingness to 'commit', and their preference in most cases for a free range lifestyle (and sometimes deathstyle)...... as for Bill's suicides - if they're gonna do it - they're gonna do it, and nothing will stop them.

Next round will be the same (pissy little) emotional blackmailers threatening suicide because of their serial 'unsuccessful' relationships lifestyle and 'how terribly they're treated by society and are bashed on every corner etc'... when they want to take the long jump, nothing can stop them, and the world is already full of nut cases. 
 Cool


Why?

Dozens of pieces of legislation get passed in parliament every year.

Why is it that this particular piece of legislation needed approval by the masses?



Because it was a 180 degree change in the definition of a mainstay of civilisation for millennia.  It wasn't just a 'piece of legislation' that needed a simple change for a valid reason...

Are you advocating dictatorship of the elected body?  Some Divine Right of Elected Government?  Are you sure you wish to go down that route?


No, it wasn't.



In reply I will quote the great philosopher Pauline:-  Please Explain?


It was a very minor change.

And, as you can see, the sky hasn't fallen in as a result.

There has been no "major change to society".




We WERE discussing the lack of a mad rush by gays to marriage... and you have yet to offer the full reasoning behind your own choice to marry... the things weighed up are not simply "I want to" and "For Love"..... each of which is an ephemeral thing...

Surely when YOU entered your heterosexual marriage there was an expectation and even anticipation of the wonder of having children..... something that does not apply to gays in their natural environment (short of a relationship with  someone of the heterosexual persuasion).. all rights could be protected under existing rules for co-habitation... it seems gays were not happy to register as 'co-habiting - perhaps for tax or social security purposes...

I mean - what 'trannie' wants to lose some Pension for DSP by declaring self as 'married' to a rich guy?  What gay couple living on the borderline of the economy (and there are quite a few - many do 'casual' such as living telegrams etc and even call person work) wants to reduce NewStart payment by declaring self as part of a duo?

https://www.oversixty.com.au/finance/money-banking/2017/12/centrelink-targeting-...

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/by%20Subject/2071.0~2016~Main%20F...


Quite a lot of people dont want children

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Reply #88 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 12:48pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 12:43pm:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 12:28pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:36am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:32am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:28am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:25am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:10am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:09am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:50am:
Was it really necessary .... really?


Is marriage between a man and a woman really necessary ... really?



Not really - but the difference is in the way the institution of marriage was installed initially......  marriage, like such things as law and other similar things, was organised to fit a specific set of circumstances..... like law, changing it needed a clear and present reason supported, in a democracy, by the views of the masses.

The continuing argument is over the virtue of a postal non-binding survey being used as the justification for changing that established institution.  All the usual whining about teenagers threatening suicide and other mental deficiencies seems to have subsided now, and we are only left with the Usual Suspect trannie etc going the rat with an axe or similar due to hormonal, drug-related, and hysterical problems that should be treated in a different manner and arena.

The slow pace of 'gay marriage' is most likely due to their deeper-seated unwillingness to 'commit', and their preference in most cases for a free range lifestyle (and sometimes deathstyle)...... as for Bill's suicides - if they're gonna do it - they're gonna do it, and nothing will stop them.

Next round will be the same (pissy little) emotional blackmailers threatening suicide because of their serial 'unsuccessful' relationships lifestyle and 'how terribly they're treated by society and are bashed on every corner etc'... when they want to take the long jump, nothing can stop them, and the world is already full of nut cases. 
 Cool


Why?

Dozens of pieces of legislation get passed in parliament every year.

Why is it that this particular piece of legislation needed approval by the masses?



Because it was a 180 degree change in the definition of a mainstay of civilisation for millennia.  It wasn't just a 'piece of legislation' that needed a simple change for a valid reason...

Are you advocating dictatorship of the elected body?  Some Divine Right of Elected Government?  Are you sure you wish to go down that route?


No, it wasn't.



In reply I will quote the great philosopher Pauline:-  Please Explain?


It was a very minor change.

And, as you can see, the sky hasn't fallen in as a result.

There has been no "major change to society".




We WERE discussing the lack of a mad rush by gays to marriage... and you have yet to offer the full reasoning behind your own choice to marry... the things weighed up are not simply "I want to" and "For Love"..... each of which is an ephemeral thing...

Surely when YOU entered your heterosexual marriage there was an expectation and even anticipation of the wonder of having children..... something that does not apply to gays in their natural environment (short of a relationship with  someone of the heterosexual persuasion).. all rights could be protected under existing rules for co-habitation... it seems gays were not happy to register as 'co-habiting - perhaps for tax or social security purposes...

I mean - what 'trannie' wants to lose some Pension for DSP by declaring self as 'married' to a rich guy?  What gay couple living on the borderline of the economy (and there are quite a few - many do 'casual' such as living telegrams etc and even call person work) wants to reduce NewStart payment by declaring self as part of a duo?

https://www.oversixty.com.au/finance/money-banking/2017/12/centrelink-targeting-...

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/by%20Subject/2071.0~2016~Main%20F...


Quite a lot of people dont want children

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Then there is no need to Marry...
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Reply #89 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 12:50pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 12:48pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 12:43pm:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 12:28pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:36am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:32am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:28am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:25am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:10am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:09am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:50am:
Was it really necessary .... really?


Is marriage between a man and a woman really necessary ... really?



Not really - but the difference is in the way the institution of marriage was installed initially......  marriage, like such things as law and other similar things, was organised to fit a specific set of circumstances..... like law, changing it needed a clear and present reason supported, in a democracy, by the views of the masses.

The continuing argument is over the virtue of a postal non-binding survey being used as the justification for changing that established institution.  All the usual whining about teenagers threatening suicide and other mental deficiencies seems to have subsided now, and we are only left with the Usual Suspect trannie etc going the rat with an axe or similar due to hormonal, drug-related, and hysterical problems that should be treated in a different manner and arena.

The slow pace of 'gay marriage' is most likely due to their deeper-seated unwillingness to 'commit', and their preference in most cases for a free range lifestyle (and sometimes deathstyle)...... as for Bill's suicides - if they're gonna do it - they're gonna do it, and nothing will stop them.

Next round will be the same (pissy little) emotional blackmailers threatening suicide because of their serial 'unsuccessful' relationships lifestyle and 'how terribly they're treated by society and are bashed on every corner etc'... when they want to take the long jump, nothing can stop them, and the world is already full of nut cases. 
 Cool


Why?

Dozens of pieces of legislation get passed in parliament every year.

Why is it that this particular piece of legislation needed approval by the masses?



Because it was a 180 degree change in the definition of a mainstay of civilisation for millennia.  It wasn't just a 'piece of legislation' that needed a simple change for a valid reason...

Are you advocating dictatorship of the elected body?  Some Divine Right of Elected Government?  Are you sure you wish to go down that route?


No, it wasn't.



In reply I will quote the great philosopher Pauline:-  Please Explain?


It was a very minor change.

And, as you can see, the sky hasn't fallen in as a result.

There has been no "major change to society".




We WERE discussing the lack of a mad rush by gays to marriage... and you have yet to offer the full reasoning behind your own choice to marry... the things weighed up are not simply "I want to" and "For Love"..... each of which is an ephemeral thing...

Surely when YOU entered your heterosexual marriage there was an expectation and even anticipation of the wonder of having children..... something that does not apply to gays in their natural environment (short of a relationship with  someone of the heterosexual persuasion).. all rights could be protected under existing rules for co-habitation... it seems gays were not happy to register as 'co-habiting - perhaps for tax or social security purposes...

I mean - what 'trannie' wants to lose some Pension for DSP by declaring self as 'married' to a rich guy?  What gay couple living on the borderline of the economy (and there are quite a few - many do 'casual' such as living telegrams etc and even call person work) wants to reduce NewStart payment by declaring self as part of a duo?

https://www.oversixty.com.au/finance/money-banking/2017/12/centrelink-targeting-...

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/by%20Subject/2071.0~2016~Main%20F...


Quite a lot of people dont want children

Spot

Then there is no need to Marry...


Marriage isn't just about children.

Never has been.
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Gay men are promiscuous. They don't want to settle down with one bumhole. They like lots of bumhole variety. Lesbians are more likely to marry than gay men. If it wasn't for women badgering men for marriage hardly any men would marry in my opinion.
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Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:02pm:
Gay men are promiscuous. They don't want to settle down with one bumhole. They like lots of bumhole variety. Lesbians are more likely to marry than gay men. If it wasn't for women badgering men for marriage hardly any men would marry in my opinion.


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Reply #92 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:27pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 12:48pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 12:43pm:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 12:28pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:36am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:32am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:28am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:25am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:10am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:09am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:50am:
Was it really necessary .... really?


Is marriage between a man and a woman really necessary ... really?



Not really - but the difference is in the way the institution of marriage was installed initially......  marriage, like such things as law and other similar things, was organised to fit a specific set of circumstances..... like law, changing it needed a clear and present reason supported, in a democracy, by the views of the masses.

The continuing argument is over the virtue of a postal non-binding survey being used as the justification for changing that established institution.  All the usual whining about teenagers threatening suicide and other mental deficiencies seems to have subsided now, and we are only left with the Usual Suspect trannie etc going the rat with an axe or similar due to hormonal, drug-related, and hysterical problems that should be treated in a different manner and arena.

The slow pace of 'gay marriage' is most likely due to their deeper-seated unwillingness to 'commit', and their preference in most cases for a free range lifestyle (and sometimes deathstyle)...... as for Bill's suicides - if they're gonna do it - they're gonna do it, and nothing will stop them.

Next round will be the same (pissy little) emotional blackmailers threatening suicide because of their serial 'unsuccessful' relationships lifestyle and 'how terribly they're treated by society and are bashed on every corner etc'... when they want to take the long jump, nothing can stop them, and the world is already full of nut cases. 
 Cool


Why?

Dozens of pieces of legislation get passed in parliament every year.

Why is it that this particular piece of legislation needed approval by the masses?



Because it was a 180 degree change in the definition of a mainstay of civilisation for millennia.  It wasn't just a 'piece of legislation' that needed a simple change for a valid reason...

Are you advocating dictatorship of the elected body?  Some Divine Right of Elected Government?  Are you sure you wish to go down that route?


No, it wasn't.



In reply I will quote the great philosopher Pauline:-  Please Explain?


It was a very minor change.

And, as you can see, the sky hasn't fallen in as a result.

There has been no "major change to society".




We WERE discussing the lack of a mad rush by gays to marriage... and you have yet to offer the full reasoning behind your own choice to marry... the things weighed up are not simply "I want to" and "For Love"..... each of which is an ephemeral thing...

Surely when YOU entered your heterosexual marriage there was an expectation and even anticipation of the wonder of having children..... something that does not apply to gays in their natural environment (short of a relationship with  someone of the heterosexual persuasion).. all rights could be protected under existing rules for co-habitation... it seems gays were not happy to register as 'co-habiting - perhaps for tax or social security purposes...

I mean - what 'trannie' wants to lose some Pension for DSP by declaring self as 'married' to a rich guy?  What gay couple living on the borderline of the economy (and there are quite a few - many do 'casual' such as living telegrams etc and even call person work) wants to reduce NewStart payment by declaring self as part of a duo?

https://www.oversixty.com.au/finance/money-banking/2017/12/centrelink-targeting-...

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/by%20Subject/2071.0~2016~Main%20F...


Quite a lot of people dont want children

Spot

Then there is no need to Marry...


Yes there is. I already said a couple reasons.

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Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:02pm:
Gay men are promiscuous. They don't want to settle down with one bumhole. They like lots of bumhole variety. Lesbians are more likely to marry than gay men. If it wasn't for women badgering men for marriage hardly any men would marry in my opinion.


Almost all men are promiscuous.

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Reply #94 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:30pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 12:39pm:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:33am:
Truly the slipperiness of the eel is strong in this one......

I don't think its the slipperiness of the eel in this one, it seems to be the density of the wood.

Gweggy thinks changing society and its norms is a minor thing. Roll Eyes

He apparently thinks that we should change society for a minority of a minority as a true democracy would... Cheesy


I know. Legalising hommers is a big step, Grendel. You don't do this lightly.

Not that there's anything wrong with it. Some of your best friends are hommers. Pillow-biters, carpet-munchers, trannies, powder-puffs.

And then there's the tinted races. Pakis, Curries, Choccos, Chows...

You have a lot of friends, no?
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Reply #95 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:35pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:02pm:
Gay men are promiscuous. They don't want to settle down with one bumhole. They like lots of bumhole variety. Lesbians are more likely to marry than gay men. If it wasn't for women badgering men for marriage hardly any men would marry in my opinion.


Almost all men are promiscuous.

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That's correct. Get a bunch of men together and you get a sperm tsunami.
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Reply #96 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:37pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:02pm:
Gay men are promiscuous. They don't want to settle down with one bumhole. They like lots of bumhole variety. Lesbians are more likely to marry than gay men. If it wasn't for women badgering men for marriage hardly any men would marry in my opinion.


Almost all men are promiscuous.

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Not true. And it is a  fact that gay men are much more promiscuous in general. Reason why the AIDS virus spread so fast.
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Reply #97 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:45pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:35pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:02pm:
Gay men are promiscuous. They don't want to settle down with one bumhole. They like lots of bumhole variety. Lesbians are more likely to marry than gay men. If it wasn't for women badgering men for marriage hardly any men would marry in my opinion.


Almost all men are promiscuous.

Spot

That's correct. Get a bunch of men together and you get a sperm tsunami.


All of which is irrelevant to this thread.

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Reply #98 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:47pm
 
Rhino wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:37pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:02pm:
Gay men are promiscuous. They don't want to settle down with one bumhole. They like lots of bumhole variety. Lesbians are more likely to marry than gay men. If it wasn't for women badgering men for marriage hardly any men would marry in my opinion.


Almost all men are promiscuous.

Spot
Not true. And it is a  fact that gay men are much more promiscuous in general. Reason why the AIDS virus spread so fast.


How do you know this?

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Reply #99 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:48pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:45pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:35pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:02pm:
Gay men are promiscuous. They don't want to settle down with one bumhole. They like lots of bumhole variety. Lesbians are more likely to marry than gay men. If it wasn't for women badgering men for marriage hardly any men would marry in my opinion.


Almost all men are promiscuous.

Spot

That's correct. Get a bunch of men together and you get a sperm tsunami.


All of which is irrelevant to this thread.

Pecca the king of thread de-railing having a go at me? It is relevent actually. The article is about low marriage rates amongst gay people. I just gave you a reason why not many gay men marry. They are men. Get it?
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Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:47pm:
Rhino wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:37pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:02pm:
Gay men are promiscuous. They don't want to settle down with one bumhole. They like lots of bumhole variety. Lesbians are more likely to marry than gay men. If it wasn't for women badgering men for marriage hardly any men would marry in my opinion.


Almost all men are promiscuous.

Spot
Not true. And it is a  fact that gay men are much more promiscuous in general. Reason why the AIDS virus spread so fast.


How do you know this?

Spot

Because it's never easy to screw a woman. Men are always up for it.
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Reply #101 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:54pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:48pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:45pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:35pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:02pm:
Gay men are promiscuous. They don't want to settle down with one bumhole. They like lots of bumhole variety. Lesbians are more likely to marry than gay men. If it wasn't for women badgering men for marriage hardly any men would marry in my opinion.


Almost all men are promiscuous.

Spot

That's correct. Get a bunch of men together and you get a sperm tsunami.


All of which is irrelevant to this thread.

Pecca the king of thread de-railing having a go at me? It is relevent actually. The article is about low marriage rates amongst gay people. I just gave you a reason why not many gay men marry. They are men. Get it?


So?

Let's say, for argument's sake, that no gay man ever gets married in Australia.

What's the problem?
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Reply #102 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:55pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:54pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:48pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:45pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:35pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:02pm:
Gay men are promiscuous. They don't want to settle down with one bumhole. They like lots of bumhole variety. Lesbians are more likely to marry than gay men. If it wasn't for women badgering men for marriage hardly any men would marry in my opinion.


Almost all men are promiscuous.

Spot

That's correct. Get a bunch of men together and you get a sperm tsunami.


All of which is irrelevant to this thread.

Pecca the king of thread de-railing having a go at me? It is relevent actually. The article is about low marriage rates amongst gay people. I just gave you a reason why not many gay men marry. They are men. Get it?


So?

Let's say, for argument's sake, that no gay man ever gets married in Australia.

What's the problem?

Don't care. Just explaining why gay men are less inclined to.
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Reply #103 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 2:22pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:47pm:
Rhino wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:37pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:02pm:
Gay men are promiscuous. They don't want to settle down with one bumhole. They like lots of bumhole variety. Lesbians are more likely to marry than gay men. If it wasn't for women badgering men for marriage hardly any men would marry in my opinion.


Almost all men are promiscuous.

Spot
Not true. And it is a  fact that gay men are much more promiscuous in general. Reason why the AIDS virus spread so fast.


How do you know this?

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Im full of factual information. Its 100 percent true.
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Why?

Dozens of pieces of legislation get passed in parliament every year.

Why is it that this particular piece of legislation needed approval by the masses?



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Because it was a 180 degree change in the definition of a mainstay of civilisation for millennia.  It wasn't just a 'piece of legislation' that needed a simple change for a valid reason...

Are you advocating dictatorship of the elected body?  Some Divine Right of Elected Government?  Are you sure you wish to go down that route?


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No, it wasn't.



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In reply I will quote the great philosopher Pauline:-  Please Explain?


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It was a very minor change.

And, as you can see, the sky hasn't fallen in as a result.

There has been no "major change to society".



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We WERE discussing the lack of a mad rush by gays to marriage... and you have yet to offer the full reasoning behind your own choice to marry... the things weighed up are not simply "I want to" and "For Love"..... each of which is an ephemeral thing...


Surely when YOU entered your heterosexual marriage there was an expectation and even anticipation of the wonder of having children..... something that does not apply to gays in their natural environment (short of a relationship with  someone of the heterosexual persuasion).. all rights could be protected under existing rules for co-habitation... it seems gays were not happy to register as 'co-habiting - perhaps for tax or social security purposes...

I mean - what 'trannie' wants to lose some Pension for DSP by declaring self as 'married' to a rich guy?  What gay couple living on the borderline of the economy (and there are quite a few - many do 'casual' such as living telegrams etc and even call person work) wants to reduce NewStart payment by declaring self as part of a duo?


https://www.oversixty.com.au/finance/money-banking/2017/12/centrelink-targeting-...

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/by%20Subject/2071.0~2016~Main%20F...


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No.

It was the last thing on our minds.

It wasn't even on our minds.

We were both young, with high-paying jobs, and we went to restaurants, pubs, and nightclubs every single day of the week.

Children would not have suited our partying lifestyle.

We married for love (and maybe to keep her Mum happy).

However, after a couple of years we grew tired of our extravagant lifestyle and decided to have kids.

It certainly wasn't why we got married, though.

And, I'm pretty sure women who are not married can still conceive.

Wink


Yes ... but many that do become that way by hetrosexual conception.

Not like our fertile Lesbian sisters that think it's their god given right to use govt backed infertility clinics/IVF to conceive. Even trans-women who are sporting shortback & sides haircuts & beards are using it to have children ... then the darlings are wanting the pregnancy, childbirth & breast feeding process statistically stated as being gone through by a man.
Grin Grin Grin No nothing is happening - only the creation of 70 genders & non gender specific language by force of legislation by erroneously classifying it's non use by individuals as "hate speech".

No nothing is happening.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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I have asked before but nobody has answered me. How exactly do any of you know they havent been getting married?

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Rhino wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:37pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:02pm:
Gay men are promiscuous. They don't want to settle down with one bumhole. They like lots of bumhole variety. Lesbians are more likely to marry than gay men. If it wasn't for women badgering men for marriage hardly any men would marry in my opinion.


Almost all men are promiscuous.

Spot
Not true. And it is a  fact that gay men are much more promiscuous in general. Reason why the AIDS virus spread so fast.


And with the new generation of gay men AIDS is making a resurgence. 
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Reply #107 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 3:32pm
 
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 2:45pm:
Rhino wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:37pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:02pm:
Gay men are promiscuous. They don't want to settle down with one bumhole. They like lots of bumhole variety. Lesbians are more likely to marry than gay men. If it wasn't for women badgering men for marriage hardly any men would marry in my opinion.


Almost all men are promiscuous.

Spot
Not true. And it is a  fact that gay men are much more promiscuous in general. Reason why the AIDS virus spread so fast.


And with the new generation of gay men AIDS is making a resurgence. 


And with the new generation of gay men AIDS is  might be making a resurgence. 

If you think it's gay men who are solely responsible for the spread of AIDS, you're even more ignorant than I thought.

I suggest you do some research on the topic.

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Reply #108 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 4:10pm
 
Regardless ... everybody, who lives together, whether married or not, has had the same legal benefits since Whitlam brought in the "no fault divorce" in 1975. That applies to "legally" married and "common" marriages (living together) as well.

I understand that the only difference with SSM was that "partners" could not access Superannuation on break down of relationship ... married can take half your Superannuation. Now everybody can.
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So 5.7% of 0.2 of Australia's population made these MAJOR changes.

I still dont believe the final result of 62%, although its law and I respect it, I don't believe it.

WHY.........???

Anglos majority would have said no

Europeans majority would have said no

Asians majority would have said no

Muslims majority would have said no

IMO

So where did the 62% come from....???



You are showing just how out of touch you are.
The majority of people were smart enough to realise that it would make not the slightest difference to the heterosexual community so if people in the gay community want to get married then good luck to them.

It was only the religious and the conservative who wanted to enforce their warped view of morality onto the rest of us. The majority of us believe in freedom, no matter what your sexuality happens to be.
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Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:35pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:02pm:
Gay men are promiscuous. They don't want to settle down with one bumhole. They like lots of bumhole variety. Lesbians are more likely to marry than gay men. If it wasn't for women badgering men for marriage hardly any men would marry in my opinion.


Almost all men are promiscuous.

Spot

That's correct. Get a bunch of men together and you get a sperm tsunami.


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Funny how booms go bust so quick, just another fad, problem is this one will linger longer than a stale fart.
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Funny how booms go bust so quick, just another fad, problem is this one will linger longer than a stale fart.


Whack a toilet duck up there, Matty.

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xeej wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:58pm:
Funny how booms go bust so quick, just another fad, problem is this one will linger longer than a stale fart.


Whack a toilet duck up there, Matty.

Fresh.

Dunno what you are talking about, hardly ever do. kamal.
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At the end of the day all we did was give a particular group of law abiding Australian citizens a right the rest of us enjoy.

Who can be against that?
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Karnal wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:04pm:
xeej wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:58pm:
Funny how booms go bust so quick, just another fad, problem is this one will linger longer than a stale fart.


Whack a toilet duck up there, Matty.

Fresh.

Dunno what you are talking about, hardly ever do. kamal.


Matty never does, dear.
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Raven wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:12pm:
At the end of the day all we did was give a particular group of law abiding Australian citizens a right the rest of us enjoy.

Who can be against that?


People who don't enjoy.
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At the end of the day all we did was give a particular group of law abiding Australian citizens a right the rest of us enjoy.

Who can be against that?

What did he do for your tax dollar, think carefully before answering, think leech.
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Raven wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:12pm:
At the end of the day all we did was give a particular group of law abiding Australian citizens a right the rest of us enjoy.

Who can be against that?

What did he do for your tax dollar, think carefully before answering, think leech.


What on earth are you talking about?
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xeej wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:18pm:
Raven wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:12pm:
At the end of the day all we did was give a particular group of law abiding Australian citizens a right the rest of us enjoy.

Who can be against that?

What did he do for your tax dollar, think carefully before answering, think leech.

Sorry Raven, wrong thread.
but while I am here, they got this wrong, it goes against nature, that's a gut feel.
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xeej wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:24pm:
xeej wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:18pm:
Raven wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:12pm:
At the end of the day all we did was give a particular group of law abiding Australian citizens a right the rest of us enjoy.

Who can be against that?

What did he do for your tax dollar, think carefully before answering, think leech.

Sorry Raven, wrong thread.
but while I am here, they got this wrong, it goes against nature, that's a gut feel.


Ok, so you are against SSM because it goes against nature? Are you against Holden? Cars are pretty unnatural. You've probably never been in a plane either, flight is certainly unnatural to humans.

"Oh but that's different." Why?

We do "unnatural" things all the time. Why is it only a problem when it involves sex between a certain group of consenting adults?
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Raven wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:38pm:
xeej wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:24pm:
xeej wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:18pm:
Raven wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:12pm:
At the end of the day all we did was give a particular group of law abiding Australian citizens a right the rest of us enjoy.

Who can be against that?

What did he do for your tax dollar, think carefully before answering, think leech.

Sorry Raven, wrong thread.
but while I am here, they got this wrong, it goes against nature, that's a gut feel.


Ok, so you are against SSM because it goes against nature? Are you against Holden? Cars are pretty unnatural. You've probably never been in a plane either, flight is certainly unnatural to humans.

"Oh but that's different." Why?

We do "unnatural" things all the time. Why is it only a problem when it involves sex between a certain group of consenting adults?

Your key word is "unnatural". how can that be good for mankind, why would you take a punt on an outcome that flies in the face of nature, have you thought about the impact on your future generations.
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Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:27pm:
Grendel wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 12:48pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 12:43pm:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 12:28pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:36am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:32am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:28am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:25am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:10am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:09am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:50am:
Was it really necessary .... really?


Is marriage between a man and a woman really necessary ... really?



Not really - but the difference is in the way the institution of marriage was installed initially......  marriage, like such things as law and other similar things, was organised to fit a specific set of circumstances..... like law, changing it needed a clear and present reason supported, in a democracy, by the views of the masses.

The continuing argument is over the virtue of a postal non-binding survey being used as the justification for changing that established institution.  All the usual whining about teenagers threatening suicide and other mental deficiencies seems to have subsided now, and we are only left with the Usual Suspect trannie etc going the rat with an axe or similar due to hormonal, drug-related, and hysterical problems that should be treated in a different manner and arena.

The slow pace of 'gay marriage' is most likely due to their deeper-seated unwillingness to 'commit', and their preference in most cases for a free range lifestyle (and sometimes deathstyle)...... as for Bill's suicides - if they're gonna do it - they're gonna do it, and nothing will stop them.

Next round will be the same (pissy little) emotional blackmailers threatening suicide because of their serial 'unsuccessful' relationships lifestyle and 'how terribly they're treated by society and are bashed on every corner etc'... when they want to take the long jump, nothing can stop them, and the world is already full of nut cases. 
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Why?

Dozens of pieces of legislation get passed in parliament every year.

Why is it that this particular piece of legislation needed approval by the masses?



Because it was a 180 degree change in the definition of a mainstay of civilisation for millennia.  It wasn't just a 'piece of legislation' that needed a simple change for a valid reason...

Are you advocating dictatorship of the elected body?  Some Divine Right of Elected Government?  Are you sure you wish to go down that route?


No, it wasn't.



In reply I will quote the great philosopher Pauline:-  Please Explain?


It was a very minor change.

And, as you can see, the sky hasn't fallen in as a result.

There has been no "major change to society".




We WERE discussing the lack of a mad rush by gays to marriage... and you have yet to offer the full reasoning behind your own choice to marry... the things weighed up are not simply "I want to" and "For Love"..... each of which is an ephemeral thing...

Surely when YOU entered your heterosexual marriage there was an expectation and even anticipation of the wonder of having children..... something that does not apply to gays in their natural environment (short of a relationship with  someone of the heterosexual persuasion).. all rights could be protected under existing rules for co-habitation... it seems gays were not happy to register as 'co-habiting - perhaps for tax or social security purposes...

I mean - what 'trannie' wants to lose some Pension for DSP by declaring self as 'married' to a rich guy?  What gay couple living on the borderline of the economy (and there are quite a few - many do 'casual' such as living telegrams etc and even call person work) wants to reduce NewStart payment by declaring self as part of a duo?

https://www.oversixty.com.au/finance/money-banking/2017/12/centrelink-targeting-...

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/by%20Subject/2071.0~2016~Main%20F...


Quite a lot of people dont want children

Spot

Then there is no need to Marry...


Yes there is. I already said a couple reasons.

Spot

Then YOU are wrong....  there is no need to Marry... Roll Eyes
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xeej wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:58pm:
Raven wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:38pm:
xeej wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:24pm:
xeej wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:18pm:
Raven wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:12pm:
At the end of the day all we did was give a particular group of law abiding Australian citizens a right the rest of us enjoy.

Who can be against that?

What did he do for your tax dollar, think carefully before answering, think leech.

Sorry Raven, wrong thread.
but while I am here, they got this wrong, it goes against nature, that's a gut feel.


Ok, so you are against SSM because it goes against nature? Are you against Holden? Cars are pretty unnatural. You've probably never been in a plane either, flight is certainly unnatural to humans.

"Oh but that's different." Why?

We do "unnatural" things all the time. Why is it only a problem when it involves sex between a certain group of consenting adults?

Your key word is "unnatural". how can that be good for mankind, why would you take a punt on an outcome that flies in the face of nature, have you thought about the impact on your future generations.


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xeej wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:58pm:
Raven wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:38pm:
xeej wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:24pm:
xeej wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:18pm:
Raven wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:12pm:
At the end of the day all we did was give a particular group of law abiding Australian citizens a right the rest of us enjoy.

Who can be against that?

What did he do for your tax dollar, think carefully before answering, think leech.

Sorry Raven, wrong thread.
but while I am here, they got this wrong, it goes against nature, that's a gut feel.


Ok, so you are against SSM because it goes against nature? Are you against Holden? Cars are pretty unnatural. You've probably never been in a plane either, flight is certainly unnatural to humans.

"Oh but that's different." Why?

We do "unnatural" things all the time. Why is it only a problem when it involves sex between a certain group of consenting adults?

Your key word is "unnatural". how can that be good for mankind, why would you take a punt on an outcome that flies in the face of nature, have you thought about the impact on your future generations.


Your key words are "goes against nature." We've been going against nature for hundreds of years. And SSM is not compulsory, we are not taking a punt on it. We are giving equal rights to a section of our community that the rest of us enjoy. We are not all going to turn gay. Heterosexuality will still be the predominant way. SSM will not be downfall of human existence.
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Reply #126 - Jul 12th, 2018 at 12:14am
 
Grendel wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:03pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:27pm:
Grendel wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 12:48pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 12:43pm:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 12:28pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:36am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:32am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:28am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:25am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:10am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:09am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:50am:
Was it really necessary .... really?


Is marriage between a man and a woman really necessary ... really?



Not really - but the difference is in the way the institution of marriage was installed initially......  marriage, like such things as law and other similar things, was organised to fit a specific set of circumstances..... like law, changing it needed a clear and present reason supported, in a democracy, by the views of the masses.

The continuing argument is over the virtue of a postal non-binding survey being used as the justification for changing that established institution.  All the usual whining about teenagers threatening suicide and other mental deficiencies seems to have subsided now, and we are only left with the Usual Suspect trannie etc going the rat with an axe or similar due to hormonal, drug-related, and hysterical problems that should be treated in a different manner and arena.

The slow pace of 'gay marriage' is most likely due to their deeper-seated unwillingness to 'commit', and their preference in most cases for a free range lifestyle (and sometimes deathstyle)...... as for Bill's suicides - if they're gonna do it - they're gonna do it, and nothing will stop them.

Next round will be the same (pissy little) emotional blackmailers threatening suicide because of their serial 'unsuccessful' relationships lifestyle and 'how terribly they're treated by society and are bashed on every corner etc'... when they want to take the long jump, nothing can stop them, and the world is already full of nut cases. 
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Why?

Dozens of pieces of legislation get passed in parliament every year.

Why is it that this particular piece of legislation needed approval by the masses?



Because it was a 180 degree change in the definition of a mainstay of civilisation for millennia.  It wasn't just a 'piece of legislation' that needed a simple change for a valid reason...

Are you advocating dictatorship of the elected body?  Some Divine Right of Elected Government?  Are you sure you wish to go down that route?


No, it wasn't.



In reply I will quote the great philosopher Pauline:-  Please Explain?


It was a very minor change.

And, as you can see, the sky hasn't fallen in as a result.

There has been no "major change to society".




We WERE discussing the lack of a mad rush by gays to marriage... and you have yet to offer the full reasoning behind your own choice to marry... the things weighed up are not simply "I want to" and "For Love"..... each of which is an ephemeral thing...

Surely when YOU entered your heterosexual marriage there was an expectation and even anticipation of the wonder of having children..... something that does not apply to gays in their natural environment (short of a relationship with  someone of the heterosexual persuasion).. all rights could be protected under existing rules for co-habitation... it seems gays were not happy to register as 'co-habiting - perhaps for tax or social security purposes...

I mean - what 'trannie' wants to lose some Pension for DSP by declaring self as 'married' to a rich guy?  What gay couple living on the borderline of the economy (and there are quite a few - many do 'casual' such as living telegrams etc and even call person work) wants to reduce NewStart payment by declaring self as part of a duo?

https://www.oversixty.com.au/finance/money-banking/2017/12/centrelink-targeting-...

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/by%20Subject/2071.0~2016~Main%20F...


Quite a lot of people dont want children

Spot

Then there is no need to Marry...


Yes there is. I already said a couple reasons.

Spot

Then YOU are wrong....  there is no need to Marry... Roll Eyes


Grendal you are right. There is no need to marry
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Reply #127 - Jul 12th, 2018 at 1:10am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 3:32pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 2:45pm:
Rhino wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:37pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:02pm:
Gay men are promiscuous. They don't want to settle down with one bumhole. They like lots of bumhole variety. Lesbians are more likely to marry than gay men. If it wasn't for women badgering men for marriage hardly any men would marry in my opinion.


Almost all men are promiscuous.

Spot
Not true. And it is a  fact that gay men are much more promiscuous in general. Reason why the AIDS virus spread so fast.


And with the new generation of gay men AIDS is making a resurgence. 


And with the new generation of gay men AIDS is  might be making a resurgence. 

If you think it's gay men who are solely responsible for the spread of AIDS, you're even more ignorant than I thought.

I suggest you do some research on the topic.

AIDS initally was spread so rapidly by the gay community, it was spread to heterosexuals  by bisexual males. One of the main causes of infection now is anal intercourse, thats the main reason it has spread out of control in Africa, through the practise of anal intercourse. So gays and people who practise unnatural sex are the main cause.
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Reply #128 - Jul 12th, 2018 at 1:42am
 
Rhino wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 1:10am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 3:32pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 2:45pm:
Rhino wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:37pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:02pm:
Gay men are promiscuous. They don't want to settle down with one bumhole. They like lots of bumhole variety. Lesbians are more likely to marry than gay men. If it wasn't for women badgering men for marriage hardly any men would marry in my opinion.


Almost all men are promiscuous.

Spot
Not true. And it is a  fact that gay men are much more promiscuous in general. Reason why the AIDS virus spread so fast.


And with the new generation of gay men AIDS is making a resurgence. 


And with the new generation of gay men AIDS is  might be making a resurgence. 

If you think it's gay men who are solely responsible for the spread of AIDS, you're even more ignorant than I thought.

I suggest you do some research on the topic.

AIDS initally was spread so rapidly by the gay community, it was spread to heterosexuals  by bisexual males. One of the main causes of infection now is anal intercourse, thats the main reason it has spread out of control in Africa, through the practise of anal intercourse. So gays and people who practise unnatural sex are the main cause.


Is AIDS the reason for your objection to SSM? What about the clap, gonnorhera or chlamydia? Do you blame homos for those?

Wouldn't SSM contribute to lower STD rates over time?

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I dont object to SSM. And Im on record as saying that we did not need a referendum on it, they should have just legislated it in.
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I dont object to SSM. And Im on record as saying that we did not need a referendum on it, they should have just legislated it in.


You and Raven are in agreement.
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Raven wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 12:14am:
Grendel wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:03pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:27pm:
Grendel wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 12:48pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 12:43pm:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 12:28pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:36am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:32am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:28am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:25am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:10am:
Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:09am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:50am:
Was it really necessary .... really?


Is marriage between a man and a woman really necessary ... really?



Not really - but the difference is in the way the institution of marriage was installed initially......  marriage, like such things as law and other similar things, was organised to fit a specific set of circumstances..... like law, changing it needed a clear and present reason supported, in a democracy, by the views of the masses.

The continuing argument is over the virtue of a postal non-binding survey being used as the justification for changing that established institution.  All the usual whining about teenagers threatening suicide and other mental deficiencies seems to have subsided now, and we are only left with the Usual Suspect trannie etc going the rat with an axe or similar due to hormonal, drug-related, and hysterical problems that should be treated in a different manner and arena.

The slow pace of 'gay marriage' is most likely due to their deeper-seated unwillingness to 'commit', and their preference in most cases for a free range lifestyle (and sometimes deathstyle)...... as for Bill's suicides - if they're gonna do it - they're gonna do it, and nothing will stop them.

Next round will be the same (pissy little) emotional blackmailers threatening suicide because of their serial 'unsuccessful' relationships lifestyle and 'how terribly they're treated by society and are bashed on every corner etc'... when they want to take the long jump, nothing can stop them, and the world is already full of nut cases. 
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Why?

Dozens of pieces of legislation get passed in parliament every year.

Why is it that this particular piece of legislation needed approval by the masses?



Because it was a 180 degree change in the definition of a mainstay of civilisation for millennia.  It wasn't just a 'piece of legislation' that needed a simple change for a valid reason...

Are you advocating dictatorship of the elected body?  Some Divine Right of Elected Government?  Are you sure you wish to go down that route?


No, it wasn't.



In reply I will quote the great philosopher Pauline:-  Please Explain?


It was a very minor change.

And, as you can see, the sky hasn't fallen in as a result.

There has been no "major change to society".




We WERE discussing the lack of a mad rush by gays to marriage... and you have yet to offer the full reasoning behind your own choice to marry... the things weighed up are not simply "I want to" and "For Love"..... each of which is an ephemeral thing...

Surely when YOU entered your heterosexual marriage there was an expectation and even anticipation of the wonder of having children..... something that does not apply to gays in their natural environment (short of a relationship with  someone of the heterosexual persuasion).. all rights could be protected under existing rules for co-habitation... it seems gays were not happy to register as 'co-habiting - perhaps for tax or social security purposes...

I mean - what 'trannie' wants to lose some Pension for DSP by declaring self as 'married' to a rich guy?  What gay couple living on the borderline of the economy (and there are quite a few - many do 'casual' such as living telegrams etc and even call person work) wants to reduce NewStart payment by declaring self as part of a duo?

https://www.oversixty.com.au/finance/money-banking/2017/12/centrelink-targeting-...

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/by%20Subject/2071.0~2016~Main%20F...


Quite a lot of people dont want children

Spot

Then there is no need to Marry...


Yes there is. I already said a couple reasons.

Spot

Then YOU are wrong....  there is no need to Marry... Roll Eyes


Grendal you are right. There is no need to marry


There is for some. They want to make that commitment to each other.

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Reply #132 - Jul 12th, 2018 at 7:51am
 
Raven wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 1:42am:
Rhino wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 1:10am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 3:32pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 2:45pm:
Rhino wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:37pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:02pm:
Gay men are promiscuous. They don't want to settle down with one bumhole. They like lots of bumhole variety. Lesbians are more likely to marry than gay men. If it wasn't for women badgering men for marriage hardly any men would marry in my opinion.


Almost all men are promiscuous.

Spot
Not true. And it is a  fact that gay men are much more promiscuous in general. Reason why the AIDS virus spread so fast.


And with the new generation of gay men AIDS is making a resurgence. 


And with the new generation of gay men AIDS is  might be making a resurgence. 

If you think it's gay men who are solely responsible for the spread of AIDS, you're even more ignorant than I thought.

I suggest you do some research on the topic.

AIDS initally was spread so rapidly by the gay community, it was spread to heterosexuals  by bisexual males. One of the main causes of infection now is anal intercourse, thats the main reason it has spread out of control in Africa, through the practise of anal intercourse. So gays and people who practise unnatural sex are the main cause.


Is AIDS the reason for your objection to SSM? What about the clap, gonnorhera or chlamydia? Do you blame homos for those?

Wouldn't SSM contribute to lower STD rates over time?



Citing the spread of AIDS is by far the most ridiculous argument against SSM.

It's based on the assumption that gay men don't have anal sex out of wedlock.

It also assumes that gay men are solely responsible for the spread of AIDS.

Truly, truly stupid.

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^^^ the only thing stupider is the belief that the AIDS virus was "created by the government" ...
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^^^ the only thing stupider is the belief that the AIDS virus was "created by the government" ...


Indeed.

The conservatives' ignorance in regards to AIDS is almost as bad as their ignorance on the subject of asylum seekers.

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Really?
For someone who prattles on endlessly defending Muslims as not all being terrorists you slip into that mode as a hypocrite quite quickly when it comes to others like Conservatives don't you Gweggy.
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Really?
For someone who prattles on endlessly defending Muslims as not all being terrorists you slip into that mode as a hypocrite quite quickly when it comes to others like Conservatives don't you Gweggy.


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greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 3:32pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 2:45pm:
Rhino wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:37pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:02pm:
Gay men are promiscuous. They don't want to settle down with one bumhole. They like lots of bumhole variety. Lesbians are more likely to marry than gay men. If it wasn't for women badgering men for marriage hardly any men would marry in my opinion.


Almost all men are promiscuous.

Spot
Not true. And it is a  fact that gay men are much more promiscuous in general. Reason why the AIDS virus spread so fast.


And with the new generation of gay men AIDS is making a resurgence. 


And with the new generation of gay men AIDS is  might be making a resurgence. 

If you think it's gay men who are solely responsible for the spread of AIDS, you're even more ignorant than I thought.

I suggest you do some research on the topic.




On the ol assumption trail again ey Peccar?

I'm well aware of most aspects of the the spread of AIDS ...... and in our world .. a new generation of young gay men are causing a resurgence because they are gungho & don't practise safe sex.

So naff off you knowall.
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Raven wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:12pm:
At the end of the day all we did was give a particular group of law abiding Australian citizens a right the rest of us enjoy.

Who can be against that?


You go on believing it was simply that Raven. Wink
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Gnads wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 7:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 3:32pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 2:45pm:
Rhino wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:37pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:02pm:
Gay men are promiscuous. They don't want to settle down with one bumhole. They like lots of bumhole variety. Lesbians are more likely to marry than gay men. If it wasn't for women badgering men for marriage hardly any men would marry in my opinion.


Almost all men are promiscuous.

Spot
Not true. And it is a  fact that gay men are much more promiscuous in general. Reason why the AIDS virus spread so fast.


And with the new generation of gay men AIDS is making a resurgence. 


And with the new generation of gay men AIDS is  might be making a resurgence. 

If you think it's gay men who are solely responsible for the spread of AIDS, you're even more ignorant than I thought.

I suggest you do some research on the topic.




On the ol assumption trail again ey Peccar?

I'm well aware of most aspects of the the spread of AIDS ...... and in our world .. a new generation of young gay men are causing a resurgence because they are gungho & don't practise safe sex.

So naff off you knowall.


How do you know?

Spot
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Reply #140 - Jul 12th, 2018 at 8:23pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 7:52pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 7:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 3:32pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 2:45pm:
Rhino wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:37pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:02pm:
Gay men are promiscuous. They don't want to settle down with one bumhole. They like lots of bumhole variety. Lesbians are more likely to marry than gay men. If it wasn't for women badgering men for marriage hardly any men would marry in my opinion.


Almost all men are promiscuous.

Spot
Not true. And it is a  fact that gay men are much more promiscuous in general. Reason why the AIDS virus spread so fast.


And with the new generation of gay men AIDS is making a resurgence. 


And with the new generation of gay men AIDS is  might be making a resurgence. 

If you think it's gay men who are solely responsible for the spread of AIDS, you're even more ignorant than I thought.

I suggest you do some research on the topic.




On the ol assumption trail again ey Peccar?

I'm well aware of most aspects of the the spread of AIDS ...... and in our world .. a new generation of young gay men are causing a resurgence because they are gungho & don't practise safe sex.

So naff off you knowall.


How do you know?

Spot


He doesn't know, because it's not true.

"Current Global Snapshot

"According to the latest estimates from UNAIDS:

"Most infections are transmitted heterosexually ..."

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I said over and over again that it was a minority of a minority that wanted to get married and that there was no need to change thousands of years of tradition and the meaning of marriage for such a small amount of people.

That it was being driven by LW prog radicals with a gender agenda who supported the safe schools program, but no, the truth and evidence was brushed aside by the largely LW media and stupid politicians. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



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I said over and over again that it was a minority of a minority that wanted to get married and that there was no need to change thousands of years... bla... bla.. bla.... bla.....


Yes it has been acceptable to persecute minorities for thousands of years.
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... it died in the arse....  Wink
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Dnarever wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 9:00pm:
Grendel wrote on Jul 7th, 2018 at 9:26pm:
I said over and over again that it was a minority of a minority that wanted to get married and that there was no need to change thousands of years of tradition and the meaning of marriage for such a small amount of people.

That it was being driven by LW prog radicals with a gender agenda who supported the safe schools program, but no, the truth and evidence was brushed aside by the largely LW media and stupid politicians. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



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I said over and over again that it was a minority of a minority that wanted to get married and that there was no need to change thousands of years... bla... bla.. bla.... bla.....


Yes it has been acceptable to persecute minorities for thousands of years.


So not entering the definition of 'marriagable' is now persecution?  Jeez - ten year olds are persecuted.....

Sounds a lot like the way Muslims are 'persecuted' here in Oz.... if they want real persecution they can always go back 'home'.......
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So gay actors, and musicians are all persecuted these days are they?

Gay tv shows and characters don't exist or are persecuted eh.

Modern Family, Instinct, Will and Grace, Dr Who, Please Like Me, Arrow, Orange is the New Black, Grey's Anatomy, Game of Thrones, Glee, The Handmaid's Tale, The 100, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Wentworth, South Park, True Blood..... in prime time too eh.... Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Carol, Brokeback Mountain, My Beautiful Laundrette, My Own Private Idaho, Orlando, Victim, Mulholland Drive, Dog Day Afternoon, Death in Venice, Sunday Bloody Sunday, The Adventures of Priscilla Queen of the Desert, Cabaret, Harvey Milk, The Crying Game, Heavenly Creatures, The Rocky Horror Picture Show, Victor/Victoria, The Birdcage, Philadelphia, American Beauty, Boys Don't Cry, Billy Elliot, V for Vendetta, Dallas Buyers Club, The Imitation Game, Moonlight, Beauty and The Beast, The Shape of Water, etc, etc, etc....

Neil Patrick Harris, John Mahoney, Jane Lynch, Jim Parsons, Sara Gilbert, Rickey Martin, Alan Cumming,  Jodie Foster, Zachary Quinto, Richard Chamberlain, Portia De Rossi, Matt Bomer, Robert Reed, Peter Allen, George Michael, Elton John,  Liberace, Sam Sparro, Darren Hayes, Marc Almond, Jake Shears, Jimmy Somerville, Adam Lambert, Neil Tennant, Boy George, "The Village People", Freddy Mercury, K.D. Lang, Melissa Etheridge, Ruby Rose, the list goes on and on and on.....

all a persecuted minority of course. Roll Eyes



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Reply #145 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:15am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 8:23pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 7:52pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 7:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 3:32pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 2:45pm:
Rhino wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:37pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:28pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 1:02pm:
Gay men are promiscuous. They don't want to settle down with one bumhole. They like lots of bumhole variety. Lesbians are more likely to marry than gay men. If it wasn't for women badgering men for marriage hardly any men would marry in my opinion.


Almost all men are promiscuous.

Spot
Not true. And it is a  fact that gay men are much more promiscuous in general. Reason why the AIDS virus spread so fast.


And with the new generation of gay men AIDS is making a resurgence. 


And with the new generation of gay men AIDS is  might be making a resurgence. 

If you think it's gay men who are solely responsible for the spread of AIDS, you're even more ignorant than I thought.

I suggest you do some research on the topic.




On the ol assumption trail again ey Peccar?

I'm well aware of most aspects of the the spread of AIDS ...... and in our world .. a new generation of young gay men are causing a resurgence because they are gungho & don't practise safe sex.

So naff off you knowall.


How do you know?

Spot


He doesn't know, because it's not true.

"Current Global Snapshot

"According to the latest estimates from UNAIDS:

"Most infections are transmitted heterosexually ..."

The Global HIV/AIDS Epidemic



Listen Peccar how about you read what I said properly instead of making up BS to grandstand.

I made no claim that AIDS was spread in totality or just by homosexual men.

I said there has been an upsurge in the number of gay men presenting with AIDS because of young men not practising safe sex.

I am well aware of the the stats that point the majority spread of AIDS by hetrosexual men ...

and you know darned well that number is buoyed by the stats coming out of 3rd world countries like Africa with huge populations & poor education & superstitious belief.

In the western world AIDS was a predominantly disease of gay men, then bisexual men who spread it to women, then intravenous drug users of all persuasions.

Bite me.

As for quoting the UN on anything ... I take them with a grain of salt. Their troops have raped more women & spread more disease across the globe than any modern day defence forces.
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Reply #146 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:24am
 
What happened to OzPol is more the question - falc the gays....  (wait a minute).....
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Reply #147 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:31am
 
Grendel wrote on Jul 13th, 2018 at 12:36am:
So gay actors, and musicians are all persecuted these days are they?

Gay tv shows and characters don't exist or are persecuted eh.

Modern Family, Instinct, Will and Grace, Dr Who, Please Like Me, Arrow, Orange is the New Black, Grey's Anatomy, Game of Thrones, Glee, The Handmaid's Tale, The 100, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Wentworth, South Park, True Blood..... in prime time too eh.... Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Carol, Brokeback Mountain, My Beautiful Laundrette, My Own Private Idaho, Orlando, Victim, Mulholland Drive, Dog Day Afternoon, Death in Venice, Sunday Bloody Sunday, The Adventures of Priscilla Queen of the Desert, Cabaret, Harvey Milk, The Crying Game, Heavenly Creatures, The Rocky Horror Picture Show, Victor/Victoria, The Birdcage, Philadelphia, American Beauty, Boys Don't Cry, Billy Elliot, V for Vendetta, Dallas Buyers Club, The Imitation Game, Moonlight, Beauty and The Beast, The Shape of Water, etc, etc, etc....

Neil Patrick Harris, John Mahoney, Jane Lynch, Jim Parsons, Sara Gilbert, Rickey Martin, Alan Cumming,  Jodie Foster, Zachary Quinto, Richard Chamberlain, Portia De Rossi, Matt Bomer, Robert Reed, Peter Allen, George Michael, Elton John,  Liberace, Sam Sparro, Darren Hayes, Marc Almond, Jake Shears, Jimmy Somerville, Adam Lambert, Neil Tennant, Boy George, "The Village People", Freddy Mercury, K.D. Lang, Melissa Etheridge, Ruby Rose, the list goes on and on and on.....

all a persecuted minority of course. Roll Eyes





Yes - 'persecution' has become another of those over-used buzz-words in the endless game of taking the false horizon of some mythical high moral ground, and thus being entitled to label anyone with an even remotely dissenting view as an oppressor, violent, and abusive.

Very much like the position of Jews in NAZI Germany, where by simply existing they were viewed as enemies of the state and thus it was the right and duty of every German to remove any rights they held... in that situation no German citizen could perpetrate an offence against a Jew because a Jew was that enemy of the state.

Sound familiar to anyone?  SS-DD.   Feminism 101 and one reason I've been against feminism from Day One.  They lead the way with the screeching about persecution and oppression .... and how the 'oppressor' had no rights...... now we look set for another Labor government controlled by the SOWS (Society Of Whining Sheilas), and a new round of violence as a result with assaults on men and on basic legal and civil rights, all backed by the power of the state.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #148 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:36am
 
Gnads wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:15am:
Listen Peccar how about you read what I said properly instead of making up BS to grandstand.

I made no claim that AIDS was spread in totality or just by homosexual men.

I said there has been an upsurge in the number of gay men presenting with AIDS because of young men not practising safe sex.

I am well aware of the the stats that point the majority spread of AIDS by hetrosexual men ...

and you know darned well that number is buoyed by the stats coming out of 3rd world countries like Africa with huge populations & poor education & superstitious belief.

In the western world AIDS was a predominantly disease of gay men, then bisexual men who spread it to women, then intravenous drug users of all persuasions.

Bite me.

As for quoting the UN on anything ... I take them with a grain of salt. Their troops have raped more women & spread more disease across the globe than any modern day defence forces.   



'allegedly heterosexual men'
- the kind who predominantly in Africa and Asia will shag anything that moves.....

In the Civilised World, AIDS is primarily the disease of gays and those who are part-timers in the Game Of Bones In The Ass.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/8920482/World-Aids-Day-the-disease-that-...

Might help......

Let's just call a spade a spade....... that would help.
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Reply #149 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:46am
 
Everyone is so over this subject

You've got the green light to get  married, good for you

But can we all just get over it. The media has
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Reply #150 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 11:28am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 3:32pm:
Grendel wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 3:12pm:
Really?
For someone who prattles on endlessly defending Muslims as not all being terrorists you slip into that mode as a hypocrite quite quickly when it comes to others like Conservatives don't you Gweggy.


Not all conservatives are terrorists either, Grendel.


So true...

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Reply #151 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 11:30am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 3:32pm:
Grendel wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 3:12pm:
Really?
For someone who prattles on endlessly defending Muslims as not all being terrorists you slip into that mode as a hypocrite quite quickly when it comes to others like Conservatives don't you Gweggy.


Not all conservatives are terrorists either, Grendel.


So true...

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Reply #152 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 6:52pm
 
red baron wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:46am:
Everyone is so over this subject

You've got the green light to get  married, good for you

But can we all just get over it. The media has


Coudn't agree more.  Looks to me like the losers are the ones who refuse to accept that the Australian people decided that Marriage Equality was a good idea.  Tsk, tsk, next we'll have them complaining about counting Indigenous Australians in the Census and giving them the right to carry an Australian Passport (or vote in elections, except I note, South Australia where they always had the responsibility).   Roll Eyes
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Reply #153 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 7:13pm
 
Gays were probably only interested in the marriage issue so they could create a fuss. Now it's time to move on to something else like modifying Christianity to suit their interests. Attacking  Christianity was what they've always had their sights on.
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We don't like them kind around here.
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Gays were probably only interested in the marriage issue so they could create a fuss. Now it's time to move on to something else like modifying Christianity to suit their interests. Attacking  Christianity was what they've always had their sights on.


Can you provide me with an argument against same-sex marriage, one that is secular (not religious).
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Reply #156 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:04pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 11:28am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 3:32pm:
Grendel wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 3:12pm:
Really?
For someone who prattles on endlessly defending Muslims as not all being terrorists you slip into that mode as a hypocrite quite quickly when it comes to others like Conservatives don't you Gweggy.


Not all conservatives are terrorists either, Grendel.


So true...

But thank you for confirming you are both a
HYPOCRITE AND A TROLL...


Why is that - he is right after all ?
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Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 7:13pm:
Gays were probably only interested in the marriage issue so they could create a fuss. Now it's time to move on to something else like modifying Christianity to suit their interests. Attacking  Christianity was what they've always had their sights on.


There is enough material on this site to create a reference for pre-prepared stupid statements ?
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Reply #158 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:07pm
 
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:02pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 7:13pm:
Gays were probably only interested in the marriage issue so they could create a fuss. Now it's time to move on to something else like modifying Christianity to suit their interests. Attacking  Christianity was what they've always had their sights on.


Can you provide me with an argument against same-sex marriage, one that is secular (not religious).

My only problem with gay marriage is when they want it done in a church. I still believe in religious freedom.
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What happened to the same sex marriage boom?

It is likely to boom over the next decade.

Very likely an increase in volume as facilities and gear up to support the industry.

I know of 3 same sex marriages to take place in the next few months, they say that the main reason for delay is the lack of suitable facilities and preparation time.
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Reply #160 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:11pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:09pm:
What happened to the same sex marriage boom?

It is likely to boom over the next decade.

Very likely an increase in volume as facilities and gear up to support the industry.

I know of 3 same sex marriages to take place in the next few months, they say that the main reason for delay is the lack of suitable facilities and preparation time.

suitable facilities?

what does that mean?
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Reply #161 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:14pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:07pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:02pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 7:13pm:
Gays were probably only interested in the marriage issue so they could create a fuss. Now it's time to move on to something else like modifying Christianity to suit their interests. Attacking  Christianity was what they've always had their sights on.


Can you provide me with an argument against same-sex marriage, one that is secular (not religious).

My only problem with gay marriage is when they want it done in a church. I still believe in religious freedom.


What if the church accepts it? Is that Ok?
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Apparently the Uniting Church has accepted it now.
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Reply #163 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:17pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:04pm:
Grendel wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 11:28am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 3:32pm:
Grendel wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 3:12pm:
Really?
For someone who prattles on endlessly defending Muslims as not all being terrorists you slip into that mode as a hypocrite quite quickly when it comes to others like Conservatives don't you Gweggy.


Not all conservatives are terrorists either, Grendel.


So true...

But thank you for confirming you are both a
HYPOCRITE AND A TROLL...


Why is that - he is right after all ?

No he's a hypocrite and a TROLL.
perhaps you should stay out of other people's posts unless you know what they are talking about. Roll Eyes
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Reply #164 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:17pm
 
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:14pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:07pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:02pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 7:13pm:
Gays were probably only interested in the marriage issue so they could create a fuss. Now it's time to move on to something else like modifying Christianity to suit their interests. Attacking  Christianity was what they've always had their sights on.


Can you provide me with an argument against same-sex marriage, one that is secular (not religious).

My only problem with gay marriage is when they want it done in a church. I still believe in religious freedom.


What if the church accepts it? Is that Ok?

I suppose it's up to them. If the congregation agrees I suppose. It shouldn't be forced on to them though. Somebody shouldn't have to have their freedom taken away from  another so their freedom is met. It defeats itself.
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Reply #165 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:19pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:17pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:14pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:07pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:02pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 7:13pm:
Gays were probably only interested in the marriage issue so they could create a fuss. Now it's time to move on to something else like modifying Christianity to suit their interests. Attacking  Christianity was what they've always had their sights on.


Can you provide me with an argument against same-sex marriage, one that is secular (not religious).

My only problem with gay marriage is when they want it done in a church. I still believe in religious freedom.


What if the church accepts it? Is that Ok?

I suppose it's up to them. If the congregation agrees I suppose. It shouldn't be forced on to them though. Somebody shouldn't have to have their freedom taken away from  another so their freedom is met. It defeats itself.


And no one is forcing them. So there goes your argument up in smoke.

Next!
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Reply #166 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:26pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:06pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 7:13pm:
Gays were probably only interested in the marriage issue so they could create a fuss. Now it's time to move on to something else like modifying Christianity to suit their interests. Attacking  Christianity was what they've always had their sights on.


There is enough material on this site to create a reference for pre-prepared stupid statements ?

it's not stupid at all muppet. gays know a load of their discrimination comes from religion.
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Reply #168 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:28pm
 
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:19pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:17pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:14pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:07pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:02pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 7:13pm:
Gays were probably only interested in the marriage issue so they could create a fuss. Now it's time to move on to something else like modifying Christianity to suit their interests. Attacking  Christianity was what they've always had their sights on.


Can you provide me with an argument against same-sex marriage, one that is secular (not religious).

My only problem with gay marriage is when they want it done in a church. I still believe in religious freedom.


What if the church accepts it? Is that Ok?

I suppose it's up to them. If the congregation agrees I suppose. It shouldn't be forced on to them though. Somebody shouldn't have to have their freedom taken away from  another so their freedom is met. It defeats itself.


And no one is forcing them. So there goes your argument up in smoke.

Next!
Gays have demanded to be married in a church muppet. look it up.
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Reply #169 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:31pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:11pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:09pm:
What happened to the same sex marriage boom?

It is likely to boom over the next decade.

Very likely an increase in volume as facilities and gear up to support the industry.

I know of 3 same sex marriages to take place in the next few months, they say that the main reason for delay is the lack of suitable facilities and preparation time.

suitable facilities?

what does that mean?


You understand that there are a limited amount of wedding facilities available that gays can be a tad fussy and that not all facilities are available to them.

Then there is the period of engagement following a proposal. This started about 4 months ago.

How many Hetro marriages are organised in under 4 months of the engagement and why should same sex marriages be any different ?

You will find than many facilities are booked well over 6 months in advance.
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For muppet man auggie.

London, England, Aug 3, 2013 / 06:03 am (CNA/EWTN News).- Following legislation that permits same-sex marriage in the U.K. yet prohibits the Church of England from performing the ceremony, a gay couple are planning to sue to be able to marry in their church.
“We are happy for gay marriage to be recognized – in that sense it is a big step. But it is actually a small step because it is something we still cannot actually do,” Barrie Drewitt-Barlow told the Essex Chronicle Aug. 1.
“We need to convince the church that it is the right thing for our community for them to recognize as practicing Christians.”

There's loads of them.
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Reply #171 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:32pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:28pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:19pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:17pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:14pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:07pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:02pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 7:13pm:
Gays were probably only interested in the marriage issue so they could create a fuss. Now it's time to move on to something else like modifying Christianity to suit their interests. Attacking  Christianity was what they've always had their sights on.


Can you provide me with an argument against same-sex marriage, one that is secular (not religious).

My only problem with gay marriage is when they want it done in a church. I still believe in religious freedom.


What if the church accepts it? Is that Ok?

I suppose it's up to them. If the congregation agrees I suppose. It shouldn't be forced on to them though. Somebody shouldn't have to have their freedom taken away from  another so their freedom is met. It defeats itself.


And no one is forcing them. So there goes your argument up in smoke.

Next!
Gays have demanded to be married in a church muppet. look it up.


Cite me a legal case where a court has actually ruled in favour of this, otherwise this is just bullshit.
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Reply #172 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:33pm
 
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For muppet man auggie.

London, England, Aug 3, 2013 / 06:03 am (CNA/EWTN News).- Following legislation that permits same-sex marriage in the U.K. yet prohibits the Church of England from performing the ceremony, a gay couple are planning to sue to be able to marry in their church.
“We are happy for gay marriage to be recognized – in that sense it is a big step. But it is actually a small step because it is something we still cannot actually do,” Barrie Drewitt-Barlow told the Essex Chronicle Aug. 1.
“We need to convince the church that it is the right thing for our community for them to recognize as practicing Christians.”

There's loads of them.


Did they sue? Did they win?

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Dnarever wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:31pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:11pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:09pm:
What happened to the same sex marriage boom?

It is likely to boom over the next decade.

Very likely an increase in volume as facilities and gear up to support the industry.

I know of 3 same sex marriages to take place in the next few months, they say that the main reason for delay is the lack of suitable facilities and preparation time.

suitable facilities?

what does that mean?


You understand that there are a limited amount of wedding facilities available that gays can be a tad fussy and that not all facilities are available to them.

Then there is the period of engagement following a proposal. This started about 4 months ago.

How many Hetro marriages are organised in under 4 months of the engagement and why should same sex marriages be any different ?

You will find than many facilities are booked well over 6 months in advance.

Bullshit. Anybody can rent out a hall. That's what many people do. Absolute rubbish.
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Reply #174 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:33pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:16pm:
Apparently the Uniting Church has excepted it now.


Well - if they've excepted it, that means they don't accept it....
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For muppet man auggie.

London, England, Aug 3, 2013 / 06:03 am (CNA/EWTN News).- Following legislation that permits same-sex marriage in the U.K. yet prohibits the Church of England from performing the ceremony, a gay couple are planning to sue to be able to marry in their church.
“We are happy for gay marriage to be recognized – in that sense it is a big step. But it is actually a small step because it is something we still cannot actually do,” Barrie Drewitt-Barlow told the Essex Chronicle Aug. 1.
“We need to convince the church that it is the right thing for our community for them to recognize as practicing Christians.”

There's loads of them.


Did they sue? Did they win?


I hope not.
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Ye Grappler wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:33pm:
Grendel wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:16pm:
Apparently the Uniting Church has excepted it now.


Well - if they've excepted it, that means they don't accept it....


What poo are you talking now, Grap?
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Reply #177 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:35pm
 
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What happened to the same sex marriage boom?

It is likely to boom over the next decade.

Very likely an increase in volume as facilities and gear up to support the industry.

I know of 3 same sex marriages to take place in the next few months, they say that the main reason for delay is the lack of suitable facilities and preparation time.


Well - many will have to sever their live-in ties so that Centrelink etc won't catch up with them.... you know - double dipping for First Home Owners grants and such...

For every silver lining there's a clod who'll fall for the dark cloud inside....
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Reply #178 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:36pm
 
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:32pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:28pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:19pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:17pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:14pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:07pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:02pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 7:13pm:
Gays were probably only interested in the marriage issue so they could create a fuss. Now it's time to move on to something else like modifying Christianity to suit their interests. Attacking  Christianity was what they've always had their sights on.


Can you provide me with an argument against same-sex marriage, one that is secular (not religious).

My only problem with gay marriage is when they want it done in a church. I still believe in religious freedom.


What if the church accepts it? Is that Ok?

I suppose it's up to them. If the congregation agrees I suppose. It shouldn't be forced on to them though. Somebody shouldn't have to have their freedom taken away from  another so their freedom is met. It defeats itself.


And no one is forcing them. So there goes your argument up in smoke.

Next!
Gays have demanded to be married in a church muppet. look it up.


Cite me a legal case where a court has actually ruled in favour of this, otherwise this is just bullshit.
Just citing that cases have come up. You asked for it.
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Reply #179 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:36pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:36pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:32pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:28pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:19pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:17pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:14pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:07pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:02pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 7:13pm:
Gays were probably only interested in the marriage issue so they could create a fuss. Now it's time to move on to something else like modifying Christianity to suit their interests. Attacking  Christianity was what they've always had their sights on.


Can you provide me with an argument against same-sex marriage, one that is secular (not religious).

My only problem with gay marriage is when they want it done in a church. I still believe in religious freedom.


What if the church accepts it? Is that Ok?

I suppose it's up to them. If the congregation agrees I suppose. It shouldn't be forced on to them though. Somebody shouldn't have to have their freedom taken away from  another so their freedom is met. It defeats itself.


And no one is forcing them. So there goes your argument up in smoke.

Next!
Gays have demanded to be married in a church muppet. look it up.


Cite me a legal case where a court has actually ruled in favour of this, otherwise this is just bullshit.
Just citing that cases have come up. You asked for it.


I asked where they have been ruled in favour of. Any one can sue for a frivolous case.
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Reply #180 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:38pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:33pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:31pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:11pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:09pm:
What happened to the same sex marriage boom?

It is likely to boom over the next decade.

Very likely an increase in volume as facilities and gear up to support the industry.

I know of 3 same sex marriages to take place in the next few months, they say that the main reason for delay is the lack of suitable facilities and preparation time.

suitable facilities?

what does that mean?


You understand that there are a limited amount of wedding facilities available that gays can be a tad fussy and that not all facilities are available to them.

Then there is the period of engagement following a proposal. This started about 4 months ago.

How many Hetro marriages are organised in under 4 months of the engagement and why should same sex marriages be any different ?

You will find than many facilities are booked well over 6 months in advance.

Bullshit. Anybody can rent out a hall. That's what many people do. Absolute rubbish.


Not the perfect high profile hall with all the supporting stuff.

Your talking about the wedding with Aunt Mildred manning the punch bowl and a nice platter of tomato sangers.
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Reply #181 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:40pm
 
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:36pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:36pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:32pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:28pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:19pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:17pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:14pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:07pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:02pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 7:13pm:
Gays were probably only interested in the marriage issue so they could create a fuss. Now it's time to move on to something else like modifying Christianity to suit their interests. Attacking  Christianity was what they've always had their sights on.


Can you provide me with an argument against same-sex marriage, one that is secular (not religious).

My only problem with gay marriage is when they want it done in a church. I still believe in religious freedom.


What if the church accepts it? Is that Ok?

I suppose it's up to them. If the congregation agrees I suppose. It shouldn't be forced on to them though. Somebody shouldn't have to have their freedom taken away from  another so their freedom is met. It defeats itself.


And no one is forcing them. So there goes your argument up in smoke.

Next!
Gays have demanded to be married in a church muppet. look it up.


Cite me a legal case where a court has actually ruled in favour of this, otherwise this is just bullshit.
Just citing that cases have come up. You asked for it.


I asked where they have been ruled in favour of. Any one can sue for a frivolous case.

I'm just saying that gays are going to push this as far as they can get until homosexuality is seen as normal mainstream behaviour. That's what all this is about. It's like Brian Ross's abbo civilisation posts. It's all geared to a treaty. Activists that belong to certain groups take things a step at a time until they get what they want and it won't stop. Blacks, abos, gays, trannies etc etc.
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Reply #182 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:41pm
 
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:36pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:36pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:32pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:28pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:19pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:17pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:14pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:07pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:02pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 7:13pm:
Gays were probably only interested in the marriage issue so they could create a fuss. Now it's time to move on to something else like modifying Christianity to suit their interests. Attacking  Christianity was what they've always had their sights on.


Can you provide me with an argument against same-sex marriage, one that is secular (not religious).

My only problem with gay marriage is when they want it done in a church. I still believe in religious freedom.


What if the church accepts it? Is that Ok?

I suppose it's up to them. If the congregation agrees I suppose. It shouldn't be forced on to them though. Somebody shouldn't have to have their freedom taken away from  another so their freedom is met. It defeats itself.


And no one is forcing them. So there goes your argument up in smoke.

Next!
Gays have demanded to be married in a church muppet. look it up.


Cite me a legal case where a court has actually ruled in favour of this, otherwise this is just bullshit.
Just citing that cases have come up. You asked for it.


I asked where they have been ruled in favour of. Any one can sue for a frivolous case.

Those couple of po ofs in the states won their first sitting against that god bothering cake maker. They've almost one a couple of times.
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Reply #183 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:42pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:31pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:11pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:09pm:
What happened to the same sex marriage boom?

It is likely to boom over the next decade.

Very likely an increase in volume as facilities and gear up to support the industry.

I know of 3 same sex marriages to take place in the next few months, they say that the main reason for delay is the lack of suitable facilities and preparation time.

suitable facilities?

what does that mean?


You understand that there are a limited amount of wedding facilities available that gays can be a tad fussy and that not all facilities are available to them.

Then there is the period of engagement following a proposal. This started about 4 months ago.

How many Hetro marriages are organised in under 4 months of the engagement and why should same sex marriages be any different ?

You will find than many facilities are booked well over 6 months in advance.


I know of one, I met my wife in Oct '83, she proposed in Dec '83, we were married in Apr '84.
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Reply #184 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:44pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:38pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:33pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:31pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:11pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:09pm:
What happened to the same sex marriage boom?

It is likely to boom over the next decade.

Very likely an increase in volume as facilities and gear up to support the industry.

I know of 3 same sex marriages to take place in the next few months, they say that the main reason for delay is the lack of suitable facilities and preparation time.

suitable facilities?

what does that mean?


You understand that there are a limited amount of wedding facilities available that gays can be a tad fussy and that not all facilities are available to them.

Then there is the period of engagement following a proposal. This started about 4 months ago.

How many Hetro marriages are organised in under 4 months of the engagement and why should same sex marriages be any different ?

You will find than many facilities are booked well over 6 months in advance.

Bullshit. Anybody can rent out a hall. That's what many people do. Absolute rubbish.


Not the perfect high profile hall with all the supporting stuff.

Your talking about the wedding with Aunt Mildred manning the punch bowl and a nice platter of tomato sangers.

If you have the doe anybody can rent out a nice hall. Just book it and wait. If it's a religious place then they won't get in. People who rent out halls don't care if they are p oofs and lezzos.
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Reply #185 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:45pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:40pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:36pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:36pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:32pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:28pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:19pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:17pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:14pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:07pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:02pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 7:13pm:
Gays were probably only interested in the marriage issue so they could create a fuss. Now it's time to move on to something else like modifying Christianity to suit their interests. Attacking  Christianity was what they've always had their sights on.


Can you provide me with an argument against same-sex marriage, one that is secular (not religious).

My only problem with gay marriage is when they want it done in a church. I still believe in religious freedom.


What if the church accepts it? Is that Ok?

I suppose it's up to them. If the congregation agrees I suppose. It shouldn't be forced on to them though. Somebody shouldn't have to have their freedom taken away from  another so their freedom is met. It defeats itself.


And no one is forcing them. So there goes your argument up in smoke.

Next!
Gays have demanded to be married in a church muppet. look it up.


Cite me a legal case where a court has actually ruled in favour of this, otherwise this is just bullshit.
Just citing that cases have come up. You asked for it.


I asked where they have been ruled in favour of. Any one can sue for a frivolous case.

I'm just saying that gays are going to push this as far as they can get until homosexuality is seen as normal mainstream behaviour. That's what all this is about. It's like Brian Ross's abbo civilisation posts. It's all geared to a treaty. Activists that belong to certain groups take things a step at a time until they get what they want and it won't stop. Blacks, abos, gays, trannies etc etc.


Homosexuality is normal, you twit.
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Reply #186 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:47pm
 
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:45pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:40pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:36pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:36pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:32pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:28pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:19pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:17pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:14pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:07pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:02pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 7:13pm:
Gays were probably only interested in the marriage issue so they could create a fuss. Now it's time to move on to something else like modifying Christianity to suit their interests. Attacking  Christianity was what they've always had their sights on.


Can you provide me with an argument against same-sex marriage, one that is secular (not religious).

My only problem with gay marriage is when they want it done in a church. I still believe in religious freedom.


What if the church accepts it? Is that Ok?

I suppose it's up to them. If the congregation agrees I suppose. It shouldn't be forced on to them though. Somebody shouldn't have to have their freedom taken away from  another so their freedom is met. It defeats itself.


And no one is forcing them. So there goes your argument up in smoke.

Next!
Gays have demanded to be married in a church muppet. look it up.


Cite me a legal case where a court has actually ruled in favour of this, otherwise this is just bullshit.
Just citing that cases have come up. You asked for it.


I asked where they have been ruled in favour of. Any one can sue for a frivolous case.

I'm just saying that gays are going to push this as far as they can get until homosexuality is seen as normal mainstreambehaviour. That's what all this is about. It's like Brian Ross's abbo civilisation posts. It's all geared to a treaty. Activists that belong to certain groups take things a step at a time until they get what they want and it won't stop. Blacks, abos, gays, trannies etc etc.


Homosexuality is normal, you twit.

Sex without any possibility of creating life is not normal muppet. It's a anomaly. You don't see lions buggering one another hey?
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Re: What happened to the same sex marriage boom?
Reply #187 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:48pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:42pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:31pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:11pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:09pm:
What happened to the same sex marriage boom?

It is likely to boom over the next decade.

Very likely an increase in volume as facilities and gear up to support the industry.

I know of 3 same sex marriages to take place in the next few months, they say that the main reason for delay is the lack of suitable facilities and preparation time.

suitable facilities?

what does that mean?


You understand that there are a limited amount of wedding facilities available that gays can be a tad fussy and that not all facilities are available to them.

Then there is the period of engagement following a proposal. This started about 4 months ago.

How many Hetro marriages are organised in under 4 months of the engagement and why should same sex marriages be any different ?

You will find than many facilities are booked well over 6 months in advance.


I know of one, I met my wife in Oct '83, she proposed in Dec '83, we were married in Apr '84.


poo! That was quick! How'd you pull that off?
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Homosexuality is normal, you twit.


Not in my sexual relationships it hasn't been. Wink
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Reply #189 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:49pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:48pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:45pm:
Homosexuality is normal, you twit.


Not in my sexual relationships it hasn't been. Wink


That's because you're not gay, Set.
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Auggie thinks homosexuality is normal when only a small percentage of the world population do it. It's just not standard mainstream behaviour.
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Reply #191 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:50pm
 
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:48pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:42pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:31pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:11pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:09pm:
What happened to the same sex marriage boom?

It is likely to boom over the next decade.

Very likely an increase in volume as facilities and gear up to support the industry.

I know of 3 same sex marriages to take place in the next few months, they say that the main reason for delay is the lack of suitable facilities and preparation time.

suitable facilities?

what does that mean?


You understand that there are a limited amount of wedding facilities available that gays can be a tad fussy and that not all facilities are available to them.

Then there is the period of engagement following a proposal. This started about 4 months ago.

How many Hetro marriages are organised in under 4 months of the engagement and why should same sex marriages be any different ?

You will find than many facilities are booked well over 6 months in advance.


I know of one, I met my wife in Oct '83, she proposed in Dec '83, we were married in Apr '84.


poo! That was quick! How'd you pull that off?


Might have been the blowjob she was giving me as we were driving down to the south west of WA for Christmas holidays. But what can I say, she asked, I said yes and here we are 34 years on.
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Reply #192 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:51pm
 
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:49pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:48pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:45pm:
Homosexuality is normal, you twit.


Not in my sexual relationships it hasn't been. Wink


That's because you're not gay, Set.


I'm sure my wife will be comforted with that knowledge. Grin

edit: Seeing as the absolute majority of relationships are not gay, I'd say it's not really "normal". I don't care what people do in their own homes but some of the things people do are not "normal".
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Reply #193 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:54pm
 
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Auggie thinks homosexuality is normal when only a small percentage of the world population do it. It's just not standard mainstream behaviour.


It's normal because it's natural, you twit. Is everything that is in a minority an aberration?
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Reply #194 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:56pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:50pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:48pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:42pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:31pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:11pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:09pm:
What happened to the same sex marriage boom?

It is likely to boom over the next decade.

Very likely an increase in volume as facilities and gear up to support the industry.

I know of 3 same sex marriages to take place in the next few months, they say that the main reason for delay is the lack of suitable facilities and preparation time.

suitable facilities?

what does that mean?


You understand that there are a limited amount of wedding facilities available that gays can be a tad fussy and that not all facilities are available to them.

Then there is the period of engagement following a proposal. This started about 4 months ago.

How many Hetro marriages are organised in under 4 months of the engagement and why should same sex marriages be any different ?

You will find than many facilities are booked well over 6 months in advance.


I know of one, I met my wife in Oct '83, she proposed in Dec '83, we were married in Apr '84.


poo! That was quick! How'd you pull that off?


Might have been the blowjob she was giving me as we were driving down to the south west of WA for Christmas holidays. But what can I say, she asked, I said yes and here we are 34 years on.


Jesus, Set!
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Reply #195 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:56pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:50pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:48pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:42pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:31pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:11pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:09pm:
What happened to the same sex marriage boom?

It is likely to boom over the next decade.

Very likely an increase in volume as facilities and gear up to support the industry.

I know of 3 same sex marriages to take place in the next few months, they say that the main reason for delay is the lack of suitable facilities and preparation time.

suitable facilities?

what does that mean?


You understand that there are a limited amount of wedding facilities available that gays can be a tad fussy and that not all facilities are available to them.

Then there is the period of engagement following a proposal. This started about 4 months ago.

How many Hetro marriages are organised in under 4 months of the engagement and why should same sex marriages be any different ?

You will find than many facilities are booked well over 6 months in advance.


I know of one, I met my wife in Oct '83, she proposed in Dec '83, we were married in Apr '84.


poo! That was quick! How'd you pull that off?


Might have been the blowjob she was giving me as we were driving down to the south west of WA for Christmas holidays. But what can I say, she asked, I said yes and here we are 34 years on.

What a woman. That made me think if that part in The World According To Garp where Garp's wife is giving one of her students a bj in the driveway of their home. Robbin Williams comes home tearing up the driveway and hits the back end of their car. His wife bites her students dick off and busts her jaw. Driving and getting BJed could be a dangerous thing  setanta. My mates and I used to pull cones while driving. We called it having a mobile. Grin
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Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:54pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:50pm:
Auggie thinks homosexuality is normal when only a small percentage of the world population do it. It's just not standard mainstream behaviour.


It's normal because it's natural, you twit. Is everything that is in a minority an aberration?


Probably, if it's an aberration, a small minority, I would consider it not "normal". I don't care that they do what they do though.
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Reply #197 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:57pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:51pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:49pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:48pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:45pm:
Homosexuality is normal, you twit.


Not in my sexual relationships it hasn't been. Wink


That's because you're not gay, Set.


I'm sure my wife will be comforted with that knowledge. Grin

edit: Seeing as the absolute majority of relationships are not gay, I'd say it's not really "normal". I don't care what people do in their own homes but some of the things people do are not "normal".


I think there's confusion over the meaning of the word 'normal'. When you say normal, you mean that it's not practised by the majority; when Hammer says normal he means it's an aberration as if there's something deviant about it.

Minority behaviour is not an aberration.
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Re: What happened to the same sex marriage boom?
Reply #198 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:57pm
 
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:54pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:50pm:
Auggie thinks homosexuality is normal when only a small percentage of the world population do it. It's just not standard mainstream behaviour.


It's normal because it's natural, you twit. Is everything that is in a minority an aberration?

Nope. Only things that don't make biological sense. Men coupling and women coupling just doesn't work.
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Reply #199 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:58pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:57pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:54pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:50pm:
Auggie thinks homosexuality is normal when only a small percentage of the world population do it. It's just not standard mainstream behaviour.


It's normal because it's natural, you twit. Is everything that is in a minority an aberration?


Probably, if it's an aberration, a small minority, I would consider it not "normal". I don't care that they do what they do though.


Why would it be an aberration?
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Reply #200 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:58pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:57pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:54pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:50pm:
Auggie thinks homosexuality is normal when only a small percentage of the world population do it. It's just not standard mainstream behaviour.


It's normal because it's natural, you twit. Is everything that is in a minority an aberration?

Nope. Only things that don't make biological sense. Men coupling and women coupling just doesn't work.


Says who?

God?
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Reply #201 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:58pm
 
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:56pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:50pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:48pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:42pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:31pm:
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Dnarever wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:09pm:
What happened to the same sex marriage boom?

It is likely to boom over the next decade.

Very likely an increase in volume as facilities and gear up to support the industry.

I know of 3 same sex marriages to take place in the next few months, they say that the main reason for delay is the lack of suitable facilities and preparation time.

suitable facilities?

what does that mean?


You understand that there are a limited amount of wedding facilities available that gays can be a tad fussy and that not all facilities are available to them.

Then there is the period of engagement following a proposal. This started about 4 months ago.

How many Hetro marriages are organised in under 4 months of the engagement and why should same sex marriages be any different ?

You will find than many facilities are booked well over 6 months in advance.


I know of one, I met my wife in Oct '83, she proposed in Dec '83, we were married in Apr '84.


poo! That was quick! How'd you pull that off?


Might have been the blowjob she was giving me as we were driving down to the south west of WA for Christmas holidays. But what can I say, she asked, I said yes and here we are 34 years on.


Jesus, Set!


No, he was on the dashboard.


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Re: What happened to the same sex marriage boom?
Reply #202 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:59pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:42pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:31pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:11pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:09pm:
What happened to the same sex marriage boom?

It is likely to boom over the next decade.

Very likely an increase in volume as facilities and gear up to support the industry.

I know of 3 same sex marriages to take place in the next few months, they say that the main reason for delay is the lack of suitable facilities and preparation time.

suitable facilities?

what does that mean?


You understand that there are a limited amount of wedding facilities available that gays can be a tad fussy and that not all facilities are available to them.

Then there is the period of engagement following a proposal. This started about 4 months ago.

How many Hetro marriages are organised in under 4 months of the engagement and why should same sex marriages be any different ?

You will find than many facilities are booked well over 6 months in advance.


I know of one, I met my wife in Oct '83, she proposed in Dec '83, we were married in Apr '84.


Yes it does happen but this topic is about high volume - why have there not been 20,000 same sex marriages in the last 4 months - i.e a boom ???

How do you think you would go rocking up to organise 10,000 last minute venues in the same 4 month period ?
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Reply #203 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 9:00pm
 
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:58pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:57pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:54pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:50pm:
Auggie thinks homosexuality is normal when only a small percentage of the world population do it. It's just not standard mainstream behaviour.


It's normal because it's natural, you twit. Is everything that is in a minority an aberration?


Probably, if it's an aberration, a small minority, I would consider it not "normal". I don't care that they do what they do though.


Why would it be an aberration?


aberration
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Reply #204 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 9:00pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:58pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:56pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:50pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:48pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:42pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:31pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:11pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:09pm:
What happened to the same sex marriage boom?

It is likely to boom over the next decade.

Very likely an increase in volume as facilities and gear up to support the industry.

I know of 3 same sex marriages to take place in the next few months, they say that the main reason for delay is the lack of suitable facilities and preparation time.

suitable facilities?

what does that mean?


You understand that there are a limited amount of wedding facilities available that gays can be a tad fussy and that not all facilities are available to them.

Then there is the period of engagement following a proposal. This started about 4 months ago.

How many Hetro marriages are organised in under 4 months of the engagement and why should same sex marriages be any different ?

You will find than many facilities are booked well over 6 months in advance.


I know of one, I met my wife in Oct '83, she proposed in Dec '83, we were married in Apr '84.


poo! That was quick! How'd you pull that off?


Might have been the blowjob she was giving me as we were driving down to the south west of WA for Christmas holidays. But what can I say, she asked, I said yes and here we are 34 years on.


Jesus, Set!


No, he was on the dashboard.




I personally find oral sex disgusting.
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Reply #205 - Jul 16th, 2018 at 9:01pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 9:00pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:58pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:57pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:54pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 8:50pm:
Auggie thinks homosexuality is normal when only a small percentage of the world population do it. It's just not standard mainstream behaviour.


It's normal because it's natural, you twit. Is everything that is in a minority an aberration?


Probably, if it's an aberration, a small minority, I would consider it not "normal". I don't care that they do what they do though.


Why would it be an aberration?


aberration
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a departure from what is normal, usual


a departure from what is normal, usual, or expected, typically an unwelcome one.
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