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What happened to the same sex marriage boom? (Read 21018 times)
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Re: What happened to the same sex marriage boom?
Reply #75 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:19am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:17am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:09am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:54am:
So you do understand the principles that marriage between a man & woman was based on do you not?


Based on love for each other and a desire to spend their lives together and by doing it legally they have recourse if soemthing happens to the partner?

Spot


Define love.... a desire to spend their lives together is not the reason and purpose of marriage, and recourse to accepted partner's chattels etc can be (and should be) legally protected without marriage.

None of these is a reason or justification for marriage... let's ask peccary about his full range of issues in his own marriage.. just for enlightenment...  was it purely because you wanted it, or it was it just pure 'love' (please define - like courage love has many aspects and approaches)... or were there other issues involved???




What is, then?

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Re: What happened to the same sex marriage boom?
Reply #76 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:25am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:10am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:09am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:50am:
Was it really necessary .... really?


Is marriage between a man and a woman really necessary ... really?



Not really - but the difference is in the way the institution of marriage was installed initially......  marriage, like such things as law and other similar things, was organised to fit a specific set of circumstances..... like law, changing it needed a clear and present reason supported, in a democracy, by the views of the masses.

The continuing argument is over the virtue of a postal non-binding survey being used as the justification for changing that established institution.  All the usual whining about teenagers threatening suicide and other mental deficiencies seems to have subsided now, and we are only left with the Usual Suspect trannie etc going the rat with an axe or similar due to hormonal, drug-related, and hysterical problems that should be treated in a different manner and arena.

The slow pace of 'gay marriage' is most likely due to their deeper-seated unwillingness to 'commit', and their preference in most cases for a free range lifestyle (and sometimes deathstyle)...... as for Bill's suicides - if they're gonna do it - they're gonna do it, and nothing will stop them.

Next round will be the same (pissy little) emotional blackmailers threatening suicide because of their serial 'unsuccessful' relationships lifestyle and 'how terribly they're treated by society and are bashed on every corner etc'... when they want to take the long jump, nothing can stop them, and the world is already full of nut cases. 
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Why?

Dozens of pieces of legislation get passed in parliament every year.

Why is it that this particular piece of legislation needed approval by the masses?



Because it was a 180 degree change in the definition of a mainstay of civilisation for millennia.  It wasn't just a 'piece of legislation' that needed a simple change for a valid reason...

Are you advocating dictatorship of the elected body?  Some Divine Right of Elected Government?  Are you sure you wish to go down that route?
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Re: What happened to the same sex marriage boom?
Reply #77 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:28am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:25am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:10am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:09am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:50am:
Was it really necessary .... really?


Is marriage between a man and a woman really necessary ... really?



Not really - but the difference is in the way the institution of marriage was installed initially......  marriage, like such things as law and other similar things, was organised to fit a specific set of circumstances..... like law, changing it needed a clear and present reason supported, in a democracy, by the views of the masses.

The continuing argument is over the virtue of a postal non-binding survey being used as the justification for changing that established institution.  All the usual whining about teenagers threatening suicide and other mental deficiencies seems to have subsided now, and we are only left with the Usual Suspect trannie etc going the rat with an axe or similar due to hormonal, drug-related, and hysterical problems that should be treated in a different manner and arena.

The slow pace of 'gay marriage' is most likely due to their deeper-seated unwillingness to 'commit', and their preference in most cases for a free range lifestyle (and sometimes deathstyle)...... as for Bill's suicides - if they're gonna do it - they're gonna do it, and nothing will stop them.

Next round will be the same (pissy little) emotional blackmailers threatening suicide because of their serial 'unsuccessful' relationships lifestyle and 'how terribly they're treated by society and are bashed on every corner etc'... when they want to take the long jump, nothing can stop them, and the world is already full of nut cases. 
 Cool


Why?

Dozens of pieces of legislation get passed in parliament every year.

Why is it that this particular piece of legislation needed approval by the masses?



Because it was a 180 degree change in the definition of a mainstay of civilisation for millennia.  It wasn't just a 'piece of legislation' that needed a simple change for a valid reason...

Are you advocating dictatorship of the elected body?  Some Divine Right of Elected Government?  Are you sure you wish to go down that route?


No, it wasn't.

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Re: What happened to the same sex marriage boom?
Reply #78 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:28am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:25am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:10am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:09am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:50am:
Was it really necessary .... really?


Is marriage between a man and a woman really necessary ... really?



Not really - but the difference is in the way the institution of marriage was installed initially......  marriage, like such things as law and other similar things, was organised to fit a specific set of circumstances..... like law, changing it needed a clear and present reason supported, in a democracy, by the views of the masses.

The continuing argument is over the virtue of a postal non-binding survey being used as the justification for changing that established institution.  All the usual whining about teenagers threatening suicide and other mental deficiencies seems to have subsided now, and we are only left with the Usual Suspect trannie etc going the rat with an axe or similar due to hormonal, drug-related, and hysterical problems that should be treated in a different manner and arena.

The slow pace of 'gay marriage' is most likely due to their deeper-seated unwillingness to 'commit', and their preference in most cases for a free range lifestyle (and sometimes deathstyle)...... as for Bill's suicides - if they're gonna do it - they're gonna do it, and nothing will stop them.

Next round will be the same (pissy little) emotional blackmailers threatening suicide because of their serial 'unsuccessful' relationships lifestyle and 'how terribly they're treated by society and are bashed on every corner etc'... when they want to take the long jump, nothing can stop them, and the world is already full of nut cases. 
 Cool


Why?

Dozens of pieces of legislation get passed in parliament every year.

Why is it that this particular piece of legislation needed approval by the masses?



Because it was a 180 degree change in the definition of a mainstay of civilisation for millennia.  It wasn't just a 'piece of legislation' that needed a simple change for a valid reason...

Are you advocating dictatorship of the elected body?  Some Divine Right of Elected Government?  Are you sure you wish to go down that route?


Yes, it was.
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Re: What happened to the same sex marriage boom?
Reply #79 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:32am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:28am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:25am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:10am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:09am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:50am:
Was it really necessary .... really?


Is marriage between a man and a woman really necessary ... really?



Not really - but the difference is in the way the institution of marriage was installed initially......  marriage, like such things as law and other similar things, was organised to fit a specific set of circumstances..... like law, changing it needed a clear and present reason supported, in a democracy, by the views of the masses.

The continuing argument is over the virtue of a postal non-binding survey being used as the justification for changing that established institution.  All the usual whining about teenagers threatening suicide and other mental deficiencies seems to have subsided now, and we are only left with the Usual Suspect trannie etc going the rat with an axe or similar due to hormonal, drug-related, and hysterical problems that should be treated in a different manner and arena.

The slow pace of 'gay marriage' is most likely due to their deeper-seated unwillingness to 'commit', and their preference in most cases for a free range lifestyle (and sometimes deathstyle)...... as for Bill's suicides - if they're gonna do it - they're gonna do it, and nothing will stop them.

Next round will be the same (pissy little) emotional blackmailers threatening suicide because of their serial 'unsuccessful' relationships lifestyle and 'how terribly they're treated by society and are bashed on every corner etc'... when they want to take the long jump, nothing can stop them, and the world is already full of nut cases. 
 Cool


Why?

Dozens of pieces of legislation get passed in parliament every year.

Why is it that this particular piece of legislation needed approval by the masses?



Because it was a 180 degree change in the definition of a mainstay of civilisation for millennia.  It wasn't just a 'piece of legislation' that needed a simple change for a valid reason...

Are you advocating dictatorship of the elected body?  Some Divine Right of Elected Government?  Are you sure you wish to go down that route?


No, it wasn't.



In reply I will quote the great philosopher Pauline:-  Please Explain?
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Re: What happened to the same sex marriage boom?
Reply #80 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:33am
 
Truly the slipperiness of the eel is strong in this one......
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Re: What happened to the same sex marriage boom?
Reply #81 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:36am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:32am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:28am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:25am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:10am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:09am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:50am:
Was it really necessary .... really?


Is marriage between a man and a woman really necessary ... really?



Not really - but the difference is in the way the institution of marriage was installed initially......  marriage, like such things as law and other similar things, was organised to fit a specific set of circumstances..... like law, changing it needed a clear and present reason supported, in a democracy, by the views of the masses.

The continuing argument is over the virtue of a postal non-binding survey being used as the justification for changing that established institution.  All the usual whining about teenagers threatening suicide and other mental deficiencies seems to have subsided now, and we are only left with the Usual Suspect trannie etc going the rat with an axe or similar due to hormonal, drug-related, and hysterical problems that should be treated in a different manner and arena.

The slow pace of 'gay marriage' is most likely due to their deeper-seated unwillingness to 'commit', and their preference in most cases for a free range lifestyle (and sometimes deathstyle)...... as for Bill's suicides - if they're gonna do it - they're gonna do it, and nothing will stop them.

Next round will be the same (pissy little) emotional blackmailers threatening suicide because of their serial 'unsuccessful' relationships lifestyle and 'how terribly they're treated by society and are bashed on every corner etc'... when they want to take the long jump, nothing can stop them, and the world is already full of nut cases. 
 Cool


Why?

Dozens of pieces of legislation get passed in parliament every year.

Why is it that this particular piece of legislation needed approval by the masses?



Because it was a 180 degree change in the definition of a mainstay of civilisation for millennia.  It wasn't just a 'piece of legislation' that needed a simple change for a valid reason...

Are you advocating dictatorship of the elected body?  Some Divine Right of Elected Government?  Are you sure you wish to go down that route?


No, it wasn't.



In reply I will quote the great philosopher Pauline:-  Please Explain?


It was a very minor change.

And, as you can see, the sky hasn't fallen in as a result.

There has been no "major change to society".

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Re: What happened to the same sex marriage boom?
Reply #82 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 12:20pm
 
Even this strand has called 'slow down'.... typical...
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Re: What happened to the same sex marriage boom?
Reply #83 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 12:28pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:36am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:32am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:28am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:25am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:10am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:09am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:50am:
Was it really necessary .... really?


Is marriage between a man and a woman really necessary ... really?



Not really - but the difference is in the way the institution of marriage was installed initially......  marriage, like such things as law and other similar things, was organised to fit a specific set of circumstances..... like law, changing it needed a clear and present reason supported, in a democracy, by the views of the masses.

The continuing argument is over the virtue of a postal non-binding survey being used as the justification for changing that established institution.  All the usual whining about teenagers threatening suicide and other mental deficiencies seems to have subsided now, and we are only left with the Usual Suspect trannie etc going the rat with an axe or similar due to hormonal, drug-related, and hysterical problems that should be treated in a different manner and arena.

The slow pace of 'gay marriage' is most likely due to their deeper-seated unwillingness to 'commit', and their preference in most cases for a free range lifestyle (and sometimes deathstyle)...... as for Bill's suicides - if they're gonna do it - they're gonna do it, and nothing will stop them.

Next round will be the same (pissy little) emotional blackmailers threatening suicide because of their serial 'unsuccessful' relationships lifestyle and 'how terribly they're treated by society and are bashed on every corner etc'... when they want to take the long jump, nothing can stop them, and the world is already full of nut cases. 
 Cool


Why?

Dozens of pieces of legislation get passed in parliament every year.

Why is it that this particular piece of legislation needed approval by the masses?



Because it was a 180 degree change in the definition of a mainstay of civilisation for millennia.  It wasn't just a 'piece of legislation' that needed a simple change for a valid reason...

Are you advocating dictatorship of the elected body?  Some Divine Right of Elected Government?  Are you sure you wish to go down that route?


No, it wasn't.



In reply I will quote the great philosopher Pauline:-  Please Explain?


It was a very minor change.

And, as you can see, the sky hasn't fallen in as a result.

There has been no "major change to society".




We WERE discussing the lack of a mad rush by gays to marriage... and you have yet to offer the full reasoning behind your own choice to marry... the things weighed up are not simply "I want to" and "For Love"..... each of which is an ephemeral thing...

Surely when YOU entered your heterosexual marriage there was an expectation and even anticipation of the wonder of having children..... something that does not apply to gays in their natural environment (short of a relationship with  someone of the heterosexual persuasion).. all rights could be protected under existing rules for co-habitation... it seems gays were not happy to register as 'co-habiting - perhaps for tax or social security purposes...

I mean - what 'trannie' wants to lose some Pension for DSP by declaring self as 'married' to a rich guy?  What gay couple living on the borderline of the economy (and there are quite a few - many do 'casual' such as living telegrams etc and even call person work) wants to reduce NewStart payment by declaring self as part of a duo?

https://www.oversixty.com.au/finance/money-banking/2017/12/centrelink-targeting-...

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/by%20Subject/2071.0~2016~Main%20F...
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Re: What happened to the same sex marriage boom?
Reply #84 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 12:39pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:33am:
Truly the slipperiness of the eel is strong in this one......

I don't think its the slipperiness of the eel in this one, it seems to be the density of the wood.

Gweggy thinks changing society and its norms is a minor thing. Roll Eyes

He apparently thinks that we should change society for a minority of a minority as a true democracy would... Cheesy
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Re: What happened to the same sex marriage boom?
Reply #85 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 12:39pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 12:28pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:36am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:32am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:28am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:25am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:10am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:09am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:50am:
Was it really necessary .... really?


Is marriage between a man and a woman really necessary ... really?



Not really - but the difference is in the way the institution of marriage was installed initially......  marriage, like such things as law and other similar things, was organised to fit a specific set of circumstances..... like law, changing it needed a clear and present reason supported, in a democracy, by the views of the masses.

The continuing argument is over the virtue of a postal non-binding survey being used as the justification for changing that established institution.  All the usual whining about teenagers threatening suicide and other mental deficiencies seems to have subsided now, and we are only left with the Usual Suspect trannie etc going the rat with an axe or similar due to hormonal, drug-related, and hysterical problems that should be treated in a different manner and arena.

The slow pace of 'gay marriage' is most likely due to their deeper-seated unwillingness to 'commit', and their preference in most cases for a free range lifestyle (and sometimes deathstyle)...... as for Bill's suicides - if they're gonna do it - they're gonna do it, and nothing will stop them.

Next round will be the same (pissy little) emotional blackmailers threatening suicide because of their serial 'unsuccessful' relationships lifestyle and 'how terribly they're treated by society and are bashed on every corner etc'... when they want to take the long jump, nothing can stop them, and the world is already full of nut cases. 
 Cool


Why?

Dozens of pieces of legislation get passed in parliament every year.

Why is it that this particular piece of legislation needed approval by the masses?



Because it was a 180 degree change in the definition of a mainstay of civilisation for millennia.  It wasn't just a 'piece of legislation' that needed a simple change for a valid reason...

Are you advocating dictatorship of the elected body?  Some Divine Right of Elected Government?  Are you sure you wish to go down that route?


No, it wasn't.



In reply I will quote the great philosopher Pauline:-  Please Explain?


It was a very minor change.

And, as you can see, the sky hasn't fallen in as a result.

There has been no "major change to society".




We WERE discussing the lack of a mad rush by gays to marriage... and you have yet to offer the full reasoning behind your own choice to marry... the things weighed up are not simply "I want to" and "For Love"..... each of which is an ephemeral thing...


Surely when YOU entered your heterosexual marriage there was an expectation and even anticipation of the wonder of having children..... something that does not apply to gays in their natural environment (short of a relationship with  someone of the heterosexual persuasion).. all rights could be protected under existing rules for co-habitation... it seems gays were not happy to register as 'co-habiting - perhaps for tax or social security purposes...

I mean - what 'trannie' wants to lose some Pension for DSP by declaring self as 'married' to a rich guy?  What gay couple living on the borderline of the economy (and there are quite a few - many do 'casual' such as living telegrams etc and even call person work) wants to reduce NewStart payment by declaring self as part of a duo?


https://www.oversixty.com.au/finance/money-banking/2017/12/centrelink-targeting-...

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/by%20Subject/2071.0~2016~Main%20F...


No.

It was the last thing on our minds.

It wasn't even on our minds.

We were both young, with high-paying jobs, and we went to restaurants, pubs, and nightclubs every single day of the week.

Children would not have suited our partying lifestyle.

We married for love (and maybe to keep her Mum happy).

However, after a couple of years we grew tired of our extravagant lifestyle and decided to have kids.

It certainly wasn't why we got married, though.

And, I'm pretty sure women who are not married can still conceive.

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Reply #86 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 12:41pm
 
Wow all that dodging around the elephant in the room and still in denial.
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Reply #87 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 12:43pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 12:28pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:36am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:32am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:28am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:25am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:10am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:09am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:50am:
Was it really necessary .... really?


Is marriage between a man and a woman really necessary ... really?



Not really - but the difference is in the way the institution of marriage was installed initially......  marriage, like such things as law and other similar things, was organised to fit a specific set of circumstances..... like law, changing it needed a clear and present reason supported, in a democracy, by the views of the masses.

The continuing argument is over the virtue of a postal non-binding survey being used as the justification for changing that established institution.  All the usual whining about teenagers threatening suicide and other mental deficiencies seems to have subsided now, and we are only left with the Usual Suspect trannie etc going the rat with an axe or similar due to hormonal, drug-related, and hysterical problems that should be treated in a different manner and arena.

The slow pace of 'gay marriage' is most likely due to their deeper-seated unwillingness to 'commit', and their preference in most cases for a free range lifestyle (and sometimes deathstyle)...... as for Bill's suicides - if they're gonna do it - they're gonna do it, and nothing will stop them.

Next round will be the same (pissy little) emotional blackmailers threatening suicide because of their serial 'unsuccessful' relationships lifestyle and 'how terribly they're treated by society and are bashed on every corner etc'... when they want to take the long jump, nothing can stop them, and the world is already full of nut cases. 
 Cool


Why?

Dozens of pieces of legislation get passed in parliament every year.

Why is it that this particular piece of legislation needed approval by the masses?



Because it was a 180 degree change in the definition of a mainstay of civilisation for millennia.  It wasn't just a 'piece of legislation' that needed a simple change for a valid reason...

Are you advocating dictatorship of the elected body?  Some Divine Right of Elected Government?  Are you sure you wish to go down that route?


No, it wasn't.



In reply I will quote the great philosopher Pauline:-  Please Explain?


It was a very minor change.

And, as you can see, the sky hasn't fallen in as a result.

There has been no "major change to society".




We WERE discussing the lack of a mad rush by gays to marriage... and you have yet to offer the full reasoning behind your own choice to marry... the things weighed up are not simply "I want to" and "For Love"..... each of which is an ephemeral thing...

Surely when YOU entered your heterosexual marriage there was an expectation and even anticipation of the wonder of having children..... something that does not apply to gays in their natural environment (short of a relationship with  someone of the heterosexual persuasion).. all rights could be protected under existing rules for co-habitation... it seems gays were not happy to register as 'co-habiting - perhaps for tax or social security purposes...

I mean - what 'trannie' wants to lose some Pension for DSP by declaring self as 'married' to a rich guy?  What gay couple living on the borderline of the economy (and there are quite a few - many do 'casual' such as living telegrams etc and even call person work) wants to reduce NewStart payment by declaring self as part of a duo?

https://www.oversixty.com.au/finance/money-banking/2017/12/centrelink-targeting-...

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/by%20Subject/2071.0~2016~Main%20F...


Quite a lot of people dont want children

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Re: What happened to the same sex marriage boom?
Reply #88 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 12:48pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 12:43pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 12:28pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:36am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:32am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:28am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:25am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:10am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 11:05am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:09am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:50am:
Was it really necessary .... really?


Is marriage between a man and a woman really necessary ... really?



Not really - but the difference is in the way the institution of marriage was installed initially......  marriage, like such things as law and other similar things, was organised to fit a specific set of circumstances..... like law, changing it needed a clear and present reason supported, in a democracy, by the views of the masses.

The continuing argument is over the virtue of a postal non-binding survey being used as the justification for changing that established institution.  All the usual whining about teenagers threatening suicide and other mental deficiencies seems to have subsided now, and we are only left with the Usual Suspect trannie etc going the rat with an axe or similar due to hormonal, drug-related, and hysterical problems that should be treated in a different manner and arena.

The slow pace of 'gay marriage' is most likely due to their deeper-seated unwillingness to 'commit', and their preference in most cases for a free range lifestyle (and sometimes deathstyle)...... as for Bill's suicides - if they're gonna do it - they're gonna do it, and nothing will stop them.

Next round will be the same (pissy little) emotional blackmailers threatening suicide because of their serial 'unsuccessful' relationships lifestyle and 'how terribly they're treated by society and are bashed on every corner etc'... when they want to take the long jump, nothing can stop them, and the world is already full of nut cases. 
 Cool


Why?

Dozens of pieces of legislation get passed in parliament every year.

Why is it that this particular piece of legislation needed approval by the masses?



Because it was a 180 degree change in the definition of a mainstay of civilisation for millennia.  It wasn't just a 'piece of legislation' that needed a simple change for a valid reason...

Are you advocating dictatorship of the elected body?  Some Divine Right of Elected Government?  Are you sure you wish to go down that route?


No, it wasn't.



In reply I will quote the great philosopher Pauline:-  Please Explain?


It was a very minor change.

And, as you can see, the sky hasn't fallen in as a result.

There has been no "major change to society".




We WERE discussing the lack of a mad rush by gays to marriage... and you have yet to offer the full reasoning behind your own choice to marry... the things weighed up are not simply "I want to" and "For Love"..... each of which is an ephemeral thing...

Surely when YOU entered your heterosexual marriage there was an expectation and even anticipation of the wonder of having children..... something that does not apply to gays in their natural environment (short of a relationship with  someone of the heterosexual persuasion).. all rights could be protected under existing rules for co-habitation... it seems gays were not happy to register as 'co-habiting - perhaps for tax or social security purposes...

I mean - what 'trannie' wants to lose some Pension for DSP by declaring self as 'married' to a rich guy?  What gay couple living on the borderline of the economy (and there are quite a few - many do 'casual' such as living telegrams etc and even call person work) wants to reduce NewStart payment by declaring self as part of a duo?

https://www.oversixty.com.au/finance/money-banking/2017/12/centrelink-targeting-...

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/by%20Subject/2071.0~2016~Main%20F...


Quite a lot of people dont want children

Spot

Then there is no need to Marry...
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Re: What happened to the same sex marriage boom?
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Grendel wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 12:48pm:
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Gnads wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:50am:
Was it really necessary .... really?


Is marriage between a man and a woman really necessary ... really?



Not really - but the difference is in the way the institution of marriage was installed initially......  marriage, like such things as law and other similar things, was organised to fit a specific set of circumstances..... like law, changing it needed a clear and present reason supported, in a democracy, by the views of the masses.

The continuing argument is over the virtue of a postal non-binding survey being used as the justification for changing that established institution.  All the usual whining about teenagers threatening suicide and other mental deficiencies seems to have subsided now, and we are only left with the Usual Suspect trannie etc going the rat with an axe or similar due to hormonal, drug-related, and hysterical problems that should be treated in a different manner and arena.

The slow pace of 'gay marriage' is most likely due to their deeper-seated unwillingness to 'commit', and their preference in most cases for a free range lifestyle (and sometimes deathstyle)...... as for Bill's suicides - if they're gonna do it - they're gonna do it, and nothing will stop them.

Next round will be the same (pissy little) emotional blackmailers threatening suicide because of their serial 'unsuccessful' relationships lifestyle and 'how terribly they're treated by society and are bashed on every corner etc'... when they want to take the long jump, nothing can stop them, and the world is already full of nut cases. 
 Cool


Why?

Dozens of pieces of legislation get passed in parliament every year.

Why is it that this particular piece of legislation needed approval by the masses?



Because it was a 180 degree change in the definition of a mainstay of civilisation for millennia.  It wasn't just a 'piece of legislation' that needed a simple change for a valid reason...

Are you advocating dictatorship of the elected body?  Some Divine Right of Elected Government?  Are you sure you wish to go down that route?


No, it wasn't.



In reply I will quote the great philosopher Pauline:-  Please Explain?


It was a very minor change.

And, as you can see, the sky hasn't fallen in as a result.

There has been no "major change to society".




We WERE discussing the lack of a mad rush by gays to marriage... and you have yet to offer the full reasoning behind your own choice to marry... the things weighed up are not simply "I want to" and "For Love"..... each of which is an ephemeral thing...

Surely when YOU entered your heterosexual marriage there was an expectation and even anticipation of the wonder of having children..... something that does not apply to gays in their natural environment (short of a relationship with  someone of the heterosexual persuasion).. all rights could be protected under existing rules for co-habitation... it seems gays were not happy to register as 'co-habiting - perhaps for tax or social security purposes...

I mean - what 'trannie' wants to lose some Pension for DSP by declaring self as 'married' to a rich guy?  What gay couple living on the borderline of the economy (and there are quite a few - many do 'casual' such as living telegrams etc and even call person work) wants to reduce NewStart payment by declaring self as part of a duo?

https://www.oversixty.com.au/finance/money-banking/2017/12/centrelink-targeting-...

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/by%20Subject/2071.0~2016~Main%20F...


Quite a lot of people dont want children

Spot

Then there is no need to Marry...


Marriage isn't just about children.

Never has been.
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