The Green Tax Shift Concept and the Economics of Climate Change

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The Green Tax Shift Concept and the Economics of Climate Change

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Any future course of action based on the IPCC is wrong.

The IPCC forecast to 2100 is WRONG therefore any course of action based on their papers is also WRONG.

Their forecast was way over the top, there was no hiatus in the weather the fact is their information was WRONG and it didn't warm in accordance with their computer models.

They over predicted and yet here we have people wanting taxes on misinformation FFS.......




https://www.economicsnetwork.ac.uk/sites/default/files/Brian%20Roach/The_Economi...

The_Barnacle wrote on Jul 7^th, 2018 at 12:57pm:



That's only because of different time zones. I wasn't up at 0540 (WST).

One of these days you may graduate to idiot level; but I won't hold my breath.

freediver wrote on Jul 7^th, 2018 at 5:42pm:



Isn't that what they are attempting to do with this presentation?

freediver wrote on Jul 7^th, 2018 at 5:42pm:



"Ann Pettifor I was one of the only economists who predicted the 2008 recession"

"As someone who correctly predicted the financial crisis (first in 2003 and later in a 2006 book) I support Andy Haldane’s assertion that the economics profession is “to some degree in crisis”. He is not the first to argue this.  The retiring head of the UK Treasury admitted in 2016 that economists failed to spot the build-up of risk before 2007 and were guilty of what he called “a monumental collective intellectual error”. It is a collective intellectual failure that I believe has played a key role in the rise of political populism."

https://www.independent.co.uk/author/ann-pettifor

"If They Tell You They Predicted The Financial Crisis, They're Lying"

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johntamny/2013/10/08/if-they-tell-you-they-predicte...

A good read.

freediver wrote on Jul 7^th, 2018 at 5:42pm:


So we're all doomed if we don't pay for the air we breathe.

If we do pay we're saved.

Makes a lot of sense since the tipping point according to the arch bishop Al Gore was 2006.

Show me in our history were CO2 and temperature correlate......................AND I WILL BELIEVE....

freediver wrote on Jul 8^th, 2018 at 10:04am:


Last one......!!!!

You know its BS when life on the Earth is in danger and economists are leading the charge to save us all.

Nuff said about a BS topic.........

freediver wrote on Jul 8^th, 2018 at 10:51am:


Sorry FD not trying to change the topic, but I cant debate a topic based on BS.

But since you only understand economics take a peek at this.

freediver wrote on Jul 8^th, 2018 at 11:14am:


Over the past 3 or 4 years my interest in the Anthropogenic Global Warming Hypothesis has waned but before that I spent a good 4 or 5 years looking into AGW and reading and trying to understand every free paper I could get my hands on through the internet.

Of course this doesn’t make me an expert as I have just scratched the surface and is not my field of expertise but I think I understand enough to call it out as BS.

BTW after I saw an inconvenient truth I believed what Al gore was saying, I became a foot soldier of the AGW religion overnight and joined political forums to discuss and see what is being done about this phenomenon that will destroy us all.

So I do know enough about this topic to make a comment, as for the economics to deal with this problem I have told you before in threads above.

So your failed efforts to understand the science of climate change make you now dismiss the economic considerations without any need to understand what you are dismissing?


Or perhaps the realization that Australia cant change the world, one person in Australia can do bugger all and the rest of the world is going to do nothing, while pretending to do so.

Makes you switch off somewhat.

freediver wrote on Jul 8^th, 2018 at 11:48am:


None have said it better than Professor Richard Feynman.

The Essence Of Science In 60 Seconds



If it disagrees with observations its WRONG...!

If the hypothesis is wrong why bother with the economics of fixing it......???

Doesn't make sense.

miketrees wrote on Jul 8^th, 2018 at 1:00pm:


Carbon taxes are not bound to Australia. In fact they offer a way to resolve a lot of the international quagmires.

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Are you able to speak for yourself?

miketrees wrote on Jul 8^th, 2018 at 4:53pm:

Ajax would you say that you are so sure of yourself that you don't need to go to the trouble of understanding what you are responding to?