Anyway...

Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 14^th, 2018 at 11:45pm:


Yes. That’s right. How is it that you don’t encourage yourself to follow Christ?

When one follows Christ, one follows His teachings.

to follow christ is to "voluntarily pick up ones cross and carry it with nobility and without complaint".

thats a tough gig.

most people could never do that.

one look at the palestinians would reveal a people who cannot accept "suffering with nobility".
one look at the philosophy behind socialism would reveal that socialism is all about complaining and being 'upset that other people have it better then you".

christ says (and he said it often ),  from those who have nothing, even that will be taken, to those who have much, even more will be given.  he also spoke a lot about "cup runneth over".

there isnt one successful muslim democracy on the planet
and there isnt one successful socialist country on the planet.

because they dont understand this basic principle of how the world functions.

you have to be noble, you have to accept suffering, you have to keep grinding away up that hill.

and if you do that, you will transcend the suffering and the universe will reward you as a sentient being worthy of being rewarded.

now some muslims and socialists act in accordance with the hero mythology of christ
and some christians are counterfeit christains and seek to complain and whine when things dont go their way.

the bible was very specific on this.
when the israelites were in the desert and they kept complaining to moses , god deserted them
when you complain, you lose.
the bible and the koran were also very specific on the "call to adventure'.
all thru the bible old men are told to get out of their houses and grow the hell up.
and the call to haj is a call to "expand your personal envelope".

Moses, study christ as a mythological hero.
karnal and bwian are like the devil trying to tempt you the way the devil tried to engage with jesus when he was in the desert for 40 days.
they are trying to throw you off your game.
they are telling you to be weak and get into a silly pissing competition online.

the glory of being noble and of continuing to grind it out despite the distractions is the course you should follow.

dont engage with people who are malevolent
there is a warning not to cast "pearl before swine".

continue up the "narrow road to success" and forget the petty people who would see you fall onto the slippery slope to the bottom

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 14^th, 2018 at 11:53pm:


That's right, dear. One practices His teachings.

aquascoot wrote on Aug 15^th, 2018 at 6:14am:


I think Moses is struggling to study Christ at all. Aquascoot. Throughout this thread, Moses has indicated that Christ is an example of spineless apologism, resulting in the death of little girls like the photo in the OP.

Tellingly, Moses has declined to speculate on whether he would allow such a girl to take refuge on our Christian soil.

Would you?

Frank wrote on Aug 15^th, 2018 at 7:12pm:


I am a humanist, Soren.  I had my belief in Christ beaten out of me decades ago by the Brothers.  What about you?  What religion do you follow?  The Old Gods perhaps?  You know, Odin All Father, Thor, Loki, all the fun crowd in Valhalla?   

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 15^th, 2018 at 10:40pm:



Ah, the Judeo-Christian ethos without Christ and the Church.