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Jul 3rd, 2018 at 8:31pm
 
Nice to have a good news story for a change .

They'll be in there for a while longer but glad they've been found.
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Reply #1 - Jul 3rd, 2018 at 8:35pm
 
Did they see some aboriginal 'hand-work' on the walls.
That's where all Aboriginal men went to do some 'sacred' hand work.  Grin
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Reply #2 - Jul 3rd, 2018 at 9:04pm
 

An incredible story.

I'm glad they found them.

We'll see a movie within 18 months.
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More soccer teams should be left in caves
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Reply #4 - Jul 3rd, 2018 at 9:42pm
 
Gordon wrote on Jul 3rd, 2018 at 8:31pm:
Nice to have a good news story for a change .

They'll be in there for a while longer but glad they've been found.


Found alive!  The whole dirty dozen plus the idiot who got too excited to read the weather forecast, but Chiang Rai has other virtues. I am sure it was just human error manifested in some vulcanic warning sign regarding bipedal hubris ...

I have had the pleasure of writing some happy letters today, so that just proves to me that God is good.  Allah Akbah!
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Reply #5 - Jul 3rd, 2018 at 9:55pm
 
Ee-gad, a bunch of 13 year old boys stuck down a deep dark cave. I wonder what they were doing down there.

Bobby?
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Reply #6 - Jul 3rd, 2018 at 9:57pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jul 3rd, 2018 at 9:55pm:
Ee-gad, a bunch of 13 year old boys stuck down a deep dark cave. I wonder what they were doing down there.

Bobby?

No SBS.  Their ages ranged from 11 to 16 and there were twelve of them plus one authority.

What the fruck is wrong with you, Karnal?  Are you deaf or blind?

Or just stupid?
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Reply #7 - Jul 3rd, 2018 at 10:09pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jul 3rd, 2018 at 9:55pm:
Ee-gad, a bunch of 13 year old boys stuck down a deep dark cave. I wonder what they were doing down there.

Bobby?


I bet you had a few thais in your cave last time you where over there.
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Gordon wrote on Jul 3rd, 2018 at 10:09pm:
Karnal wrote on Jul 3rd, 2018 at 9:55pm:
Ee-gad, a bunch of 13 year old boys stuck down a deep dark cave. I wonder what they were doing down there.

Bobby?


I bet you had a few thais in your cave last time you where over there.

RSI bothering you, is it Gordy.  You know that if you have a good imagination, you can use the other wrist and find happiness again.  Think of Vietnamese girls if you must, because they know how to cure your sore wrists in your imagination if you only open your cursed mind!
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Reply #9 - Jul 3rd, 2018 at 11:19pm
 
I have wondered why anyone would be able to get lost going into a cave to the point that simply turning around and going back would be the right thing to do. But then, at age 13, I did get a bit lost in the orientation of my new high school.
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Reply #10 - Jul 4th, 2018 at 12:10am
 
Karnal wrote on Jul 3rd, 2018 at 9:55pm:
Ee-gad, a bunch of 13 year old boys stuck down a deep dark cave. I wonder what they were doing down there.

Bobby?



The person who led them there at a time of possible heavy rain is an idiot.
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https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/world/thailand-cave-rescue-reports-divers...

NEW footage released by the Royal Thai Navy has revealed the state of the cave-tapped Thai soccer team and their coach.

The teenagers appeared to be in good spirits in the video captured yesterday, which showed the 12 boys wrapped in blankets talking to Thai Navy SEAL divers.

“After eating, they have more energy,” the Navy wrote as the caption.
Two doctors have volunteered to stay with the boys as rescuers fret about volatile weather conditions.

Heavy rainfall could add to the flooding in the Thamg Luang cave network, according to the New Zealand Herald. It means the boys, who can’t swim, might be stuck there until monsoon seasons ends in October.

But in what is being described as a “huge sacrifice”, two of Thailand’s navy doctors have agreed to stay with the young boys and their coach for as long as it takes to free them.

It is understood rescue teams have been pumping 10,000 litres of water out of the caves every hour, but there are concerns more rain could threaten the air pocket where the team has taken refuge

Top Thai Navy officer Commander Rear Adm. Arpakorn Yookongkaew said there was “no need to hurry”, and the soccer team would be brought out when they were physically and mentally ready, the Bangkok Post reported.

“It may be four months, one month or one week. There’s no need to hurry,” he said.

“The first plan is to reduce the water level and get them out but if we can’t, we will have a backup plan.

“Anyone who is ready first will be brought out. They will be brought out gradually,” he added. Safety is the priority.”

But the weather forecast alarmed others, according to the Bangkok Post, including Thailand’s Interior Minister Anupong Paojinda, who said the mission was a race against time.

“As rain is forecast in the next few days, the evacuation must be sped up. Diving gear will be used. If the water rises, the task will be difficult. We must bring the kids out before then,” Gen Anupong said.

The water and food-starved soccer team have had four days of worth of food supplies delivered to them, according to the Bankgok Post, as well as rejuvenating mineral salts and 70 oxygen tanks.

And after having no contact with the outside world for 10 days, the young boys are now able to contact their parents after phone cables were brought into the area.



when I heard they had found the boys... I thought "yippee"   that was it...

but apparently not.....this will be another mighty rescue for the record books....I pray it all ends well..
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Indeed....amazing.

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oh trust you... I will ask a gmod to move it for YOU..
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please Mr gmod   would you move this thread to the link  Mr Winger has put up.....

as you can see he is not in the least bit interested in the subject  matter.....he just cant stand the thought of more than one thread about the same topic...

NOW    if it was about a sewer  that he delights in talking about..... I am sure he would in fact say the more threads the merrier... Smiley Smiley

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Reply #15 - Jul 4th, 2018 at 3:35pm
 

This really is an amazing story.

Hollywood is sure to make a movie out of it.

These boys will be men when they come out (in terms of maturity).

Something I do wonder about though, is what are they doing about toilets?

It must be getting a bit smelly down there    Sad

Sure, they can have a wee in the water, but ...
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Reply #16 - Jul 4th, 2018 at 9:12pm
 
The last 5 Posts were moved here from General Board by Setanta.
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Reply #17 - Jul 4th, 2018 at 9:21pm
 
They are swimming them out of there tomorrow come hell or high water.
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Reply #18 - Jul 5th, 2018 at 9:10am
 
Easy as pie - team of divers and spare tanks... kids'll all be celebs on Survivor - Deep Underground... and there'll be a movie...

The last 5 Posts were moved here from General Board by Setanta.

That quietened the joint down somewhat... sometimes, monsieur, il faut faire un demonstration!
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Reply #19 - Jul 5th, 2018 at 11:21am
 
Today's news - the kids have heard dogs barking. There may be another way out.
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Its Lassie.
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Reply #21 - Jul 5th, 2018 at 11:57am
 
Rhino wrote on Jul 5th, 2018 at 11:42am:
Its Lassie.


It's dinner.

Seriously though, they can hear dogs, children playing, and a rooster.

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It will be the first F##king soccer ever team that ever needed diver training
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Reply #23 - Jul 5th, 2018 at 6:28pm
 
they cant swim  any of them....so getting them out with scuba gear wont be that simple....there is quite a long way underwater... scary stuff for 12 yr olds...

looking at their brave smiles  is just amazing well done boys   you will be heros when you surface on the other side...their coach must be some guy as well.....very brave.
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What about goggles and a garden hose?

It was good enough for Pearl Fishers.
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mozzaok wrote on Jul 5th, 2018 at 8:48pm:
What about goggles and a garden hose?

It was good enough for Pearl Fishers.


Is that some sort of reference to ice users?  Makes no sense to me.  Anyone else?
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Reply #26 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 7:10am
 
It's not over by a long chalk ......

there are narrow openings that require the divers to remove their scuba tanks to get through .....

it's pitch black and there is no visibility in the muddy water.....

and the forecast is for more rain ....

it's their monsoon season ......

yesterday it said the next 24 hrs would determine if they would survive or not.

The adult who took them in there must be mentally deficient.
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Reply #27 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 7:18am
 
No need to broadcast your retardation fekwit, your lack of intellectual ability is perfectly well established.
Now fek off imbo.
Think of it like life, all the bits too tricky for you to comprehend, put down to gosh darned confounded anti "Clive-ians", trying to lay word mines to challenge your adversarial mind, such as it is.(I am so kind I put in a hyphen, so even he should work it out. It is difficult when you are stuck with a 1978 Gregorys, in a GPS World.)This'll be twice, now fek off.
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mozzaok wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 7:18am:
No need to broadcast your retardation fekwit, your lack of intellectual ability is perfectly well established.
Now fek off imbo.
Think of it like life, all the bits too tricky for you to comprehend, put down to gosh darned confounded anti "Clive-ians", trying to lay word mines to challenge your adversarial mind, such as it is.(I am so kind I put in a hyphen, so even he should work it out. It is difficult when you are stuck with a 1978 Gregorys, in a GPS World.)This'll be twice, now fek off.


You directing that at me?  Angry
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Reply #29 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 7:35am
 
Gnads wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 7:25am:
mozzaok wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 7:18am:
No need to broadcast your retardation fekwit, your lack of intellectual ability is perfectly well established.
Now fek off imbo.
Think of it like life, all the bits too tricky for you to comprehend, put down to gosh darned confounded anti "Clive-ians", trying to lay word mines to challenge your adversarial mind, such as it is.(I am so kind I put in a hyphen, so even he should work it out. It is difficult when you are stuck with a 1978 Gregorys, in a GPS World.)This'll be twice, now fek off.


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gnads, whilst your post was a tad insensitive it was probably correct.
this could end in a total catastrophe .
i have done a bit of diving and my first dive scared the crap out of me and i am a good swimmer and it was clear water and sunny.
i would think you would be better off intubating and anesthetising these kids and then bringing them out in an unconscious state. god only know how you can do that.

and water is incredibly powerful stuff.
if it rains and they get big currents, no one will be going back in there for a long time.

all in all, this is a disastrous situation
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Gnads wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 7:25am:
mozzaok wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 7:18am:
No need to broadcast your retardation fekwit, your lack of intellectual ability is perfectly well established.
Now fek off imbo.
Think of it like life, all the bits too tricky for you to comprehend, put down to gosh darned confounded anti "Clive-ians", trying to lay word mines to challenge your adversarial mind, such as it is.(I am so kind I put in a hyphen, so even he should work it out. It is difficult when you are stuck with a 1978 Gregorys, in a GPS World.)This'll be twice, now fek off.


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LMAO, NO, I was not. Sorry Gnads, I went and bunged on a pot of coffee, after I hit reply, but before I actually wrote the post.
It was directed at the retarded self proclaimed expander, of tropical briefs, that giant dick of the legal eagles, Aussie.
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mozzaok wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 7:49am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 7:25am:
mozzaok wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 7:18am:
No need to broadcast your retardation fekwit, your lack of intellectual ability is perfectly well established.
Now fek off imbo.
Think of it like life, all the bits too tricky for you to comprehend, put down to gosh darned confounded anti "Clive-ians", trying to lay word mines to challenge your adversarial mind, such as it is.(I am so kind I put in a hyphen, so even he should work it out. It is difficult when you are stuck with a 1978 Gregorys, in a GPS World.)This'll be twice, now fek off.


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LMAO, NO, I was not. Sorry Gnads, I went and bunged on a pot of coffee, after I hit reply, but before I actually wrote the post.
It was directed at the retarded self proclaimed expander, of tropical briefs, that giant dick of the legal eagles, Aussie.


Despite your many personality flaws mozzaok, you are often spot on.

Ever wonder why so many SE Asians die in floods? Answer: They can't swim. These Thai boys are the perfect example.
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aquascoot wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 7:35am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 7:25am:
mozzaok wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 7:18am:
No need to broadcast your retardation fekwit, your lack of intellectual ability is perfectly well established.
Now fek off imbo.
Think of it like life, all the bits too tricky for you to comprehend, put down to gosh darned confounded anti "Clive-ians", trying to lay word mines to challenge your adversarial mind, such as it is.(I am so kind I put in a hyphen, so even he should work it out. It is difficult when you are stuck with a 1978 Gregorys, in a GPS World.)This'll be twice, now fek off.


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gnads, whilst your post was a tad insensitive it was probably correct.
this could end in a total catastrophe .
i have done a bit of diving and my first dive scared the crap out of me and i am a good swimmer and it was clear water and sunny.
i would think you would be better off intubating and anesthetising these kids and then bringing them out in an unconscious state. god only know how you can do that.

and water is incredibly powerful stuff.
if it rains and they get big currents, no one will be going back in there for a long time.

all in all, this is a disastrous situation



totally agree   these boys were almost starved for 10 days...god love them  they are so brave......we have watched so many miraculous rescues   who will ever forget Stuart Diver or Bullimore....never ever give up..

so much credit must go to the rescuers as well.....

lets hope the man making the decisions  makes the right one..
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Bad news.

One of the rescuers has died.

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"Thai authorities say a Navy SEAL working to rescue the boys and their soccer coach trapped in a cave has died from lack of oxygen."

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mozzaok wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 7:49am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 7:25am:
mozzaok wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 7:18am:
No need to broadcast your retardation fekwit, your lack of intellectual ability is perfectly well established.
Now fek off imbo.
Think of it like life, all the bits too tricky for you to comprehend, put down to gosh darned confounded anti "Clive-ians", trying to lay word mines to challenge your adversarial mind, such as it is.(I am so kind I put in a hyphen, so even he should work it out. It is difficult when you are stuck with a 1978 Gregorys, in a GPS World.)This'll be twice, now fek off.


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LMAO, NO, I was not. Sorry Gnads, I went and bunged on a pot of coffee, after I hit reply, but before I actually wrote the post.
It was directed at the retarded self proclaimed expander, of tropical briefs, that giant dick of the legal eagles, Aussie.


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greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 1:38pm:
"Thai authorities say a Navy SEAL working to rescue the boys and their soccer coach trapped in a cave has died from lack of oxygen."

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Yes read that this afternoon.

Makes you wonder about the boys chances when one of the experts dies.
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Gnads wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 8:43pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 1:38pm:
"Thai authorities say a Navy SEAL working to rescue the boys and their soccer coach trapped in a cave has died from lack of oxygen."

Cry


Yes read that this afternoon.

Makes you wonder about the boys chances when one of the experts dies.


Yeah.

I'm really worried for them.

I wish they could drill down and lift them up through a chimney.

The diving option just doesn't sound good.

Someone mentioned drugging them, and then dragging them out.

That might not be such a bad idea.

If they start to panic when going under water - and wouldn't we all - things could go south real quick.

Fingers crossed they all get out safe.
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They were going on about how many million litres of water they have pumped.

It did not sound like that much water to me.

Bigger pumps I say.
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They were going on about how many million litres of water they have pumped.

It did not sound like that much water to me.

Bigger pumps I say.


For a while there, they were actually pumping the water back into the caves.

It was an honest mistake, but it set them back quite a bit.

I don't think they have enough resources.

Has the US sent anyone in?

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Reply #40 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:13pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:02pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 8:43pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 1:38pm:
"Thai authorities say a Navy SEAL working to rescue the boys and their soccer coach trapped in a cave has died from lack of oxygen."

Cry


Yes read that this afternoon.

Makes you wonder about the boys chances when one of the experts dies.


Yeah.

I'm really worried for them.

I wish they could drill down and lift them up through a chimney.

The diving option just doesn't sound good.

Someone mentioned drugging them, and then dragging them out.

That might not be such a bad idea.

If they start to panic when going under water - and wouldn't we all - things could go south real quick.

Fingers crossed they all get out safe.


I'm thinking full face masks so voice intercom can be used, plus a low dose of valium.


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Gordon wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:13pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:02pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 8:43pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 1:38pm:
"Thai authorities say a Navy SEAL working to rescue the boys and their soccer coach trapped in a cave has died from lack of oxygen."

Cry


Yes read that this afternoon.

Makes you wonder about the boys chances when one of the experts dies.


Yeah.

I'm really worried for them.

I wish they could drill down and lift them up through a chimney.

The diving option just doesn't sound good.

Someone mentioned drugging them, and then dragging them out.

That might not be such a bad idea.

If they start to panic when going under water - and wouldn't we all - things could go south real quick.

Fingers crossed they all get out safe.


I'm thinking full face masks so voice intercom can be used, plus a low dose of valium.




Yep.

I think drugs need to play a part.

If it was me, I'd be freaking out.

I can't imagine what it would be like for a kid who can't even swim.


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Reply #42 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:39pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:18pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:13pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:02pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 8:43pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 1:38pm:
"Thai authorities say a Navy SEAL working to rescue the boys and their soccer coach trapped in a cave has died from lack of oxygen."

Cry


Yes read that this afternoon.

Makes you wonder about the boys chances when one of the experts dies.


Yeah.

I'm really worried for them.

I wish they could drill down and lift them up through a chimney.

The diving option just doesn't sound good.

Someone mentioned drugging them, and then dragging them out.

That might not be such a bad idea.

If they start to panic when going under water - and wouldn't we all - things could go south real quick.

Fingers crossed they all get out safe.


I'm thinking full face masks so voice intercom can be used, plus a low dose of valium.




Yep.

I think drugs need to play a part.

If it was me, I'd be freaking out.

I can't imagine what it would be like for a kid who can't even swim.




If they could be in there until November, there's plenty of time to teach them not to fear the water. Bring them out as they accomplish what is needed.

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Reply #43 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:44pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:39pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:18pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:13pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:02pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 8:43pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 1:38pm:
"Thai authorities say a Navy SEAL working to rescue the boys and their soccer coach trapped in a cave has died from lack of oxygen."

Cry


Yes read that this afternoon.

Makes you wonder about the boys chances when one of the experts dies.


Yeah.

I'm really worried for them.

I wish they could drill down and lift them up through a chimney.

The diving option just doesn't sound good.

Someone mentioned drugging them, and then dragging them out.

That might not be such a bad idea.

If they start to panic when going under water - and wouldn't we all - things could go south real quick.

Fingers crossed they all get out safe.


I'm thinking full face masks so voice intercom can be used, plus a low dose of valium.




Yep.

I think drugs need to play a part.

If it was me, I'd be freaking out.

I can't imagine what it would be like for a kid who can't even swim.




If they could be in there until November, there's plenty of time to teach them not to fear the water. Bring them out as they accomplish what is needed.



Can the chamber they're in become totally submerged?


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Reply #44 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:47pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:18pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:13pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:02pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 8:43pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 1:38pm:
"Thai authorities say a Navy SEAL working to rescue the boys and their soccer coach trapped in a cave has died from lack of oxygen."

Cry


Yes read that this afternoon.

Makes you wonder about the boys chances when one of the experts dies.


Yeah.

I'm really worried for them.

I wish they could drill down and lift them up through a chimney.

The diving option just doesn't sound good.

Someone mentioned drugging them, and then dragging them out.

That might not be such a bad idea.

If they start to panic when going under water - and wouldn't we all - things could go south real quick.

Fingers crossed they all get out safe.


I'm thinking full face masks so voice intercom can be used, plus a low dose of valium.




Yep.

I think drugs need to play a part.

If it was me, I'd be freaking out.

I can't imagine what it would be like for a kid who can't even swim.




Are they Muslims?
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Reply #45 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:48pm
 
Yes Setanta.....they can easily enough get air to where the boys are (flexible pipes going through the water etc to where they are holed up) and wait it out.

Or maybe said pipes can be large enough to escape/wriggle through......Great Escape like?

Nagging question in the back of my mind.......how did they get to where they are if they did not go through water?

Did the water only get there after they got to where they are?
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Reply #46 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:49pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:47pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:18pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:13pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:02pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 8:43pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 1:38pm:
"Thai authorities say a Navy SEAL working to rescue the boys and their soccer coach trapped in a cave has died from lack of oxygen."

Cry


Yes read that this afternoon.

Makes you wonder about the boys chances when one of the experts dies.


Yeah.

I'm really worried for them.

I wish they could drill down and lift them up through a chimney.

The diving option just doesn't sound good.

Someone mentioned drugging them, and then dragging them out.

That might not be such a bad idea.

If they start to panic when going under water - and wouldn't we all - things could go south real quick.

Fingers crossed they all get out safe.


I'm thinking full face masks so voice intercom can be used, plus a low dose of valium.




Yep.

I think drugs need to play a part.

If it was me, I'd be freaking out.

I can't imagine what it would be like for a kid who can't even swim.




Are they Muslims?


Not many muztards up north
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Reply #47 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:50pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:48pm:
Yes Setanta.....they can easily enough get air to where the boys are (flexible pipes going through the water etc to where they are holed up) and wait it out.

Or maybe said pipes can be large enough to escape/wriggle through......Great Escape like?

Nagging question in the back of my mind.......how did they get to where they are if they did not go through water?

Did the water only get there after they got to where they are?


Yes, Aussie. It's the monsoon. There was a landslide.
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Reply #48 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:52pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:48pm:
Yes Setanta.....they can easily enough get air to where the boys are (flexible pipes going through the water etc to where they are holed up) and wait it out.

Or maybe said pipes can be large enough to escape/wriggle through......Great Escape like?

Nagging question in the back of my mind.......how did they get to where they are if they did not go through water?

Did the water only get there after they got to where they are?


Ever heard of something called rain,  flooding.

For you,  aussie


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Reply #49 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:58pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:50pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:48pm:
Yes Setanta.....they can easily enough get air to where the boys are (flexible pipes going through the water etc to where they are holed up) and wait it out.

Or maybe said pipes can be large enough to escape/wriggle through......Great Escape like?

Nagging question in the back of my mind.......how did they get to where they are if they did not go through water?

Did the water only get there after they got to where they are?


Yes, Aussie. It's the monsoon. There was a landslide.


A landslide......in a cave?
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Reply #50 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:02pm
 
Gordon wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:49pm:
Karnal wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:47pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:18pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:13pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:02pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 8:43pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 1:38pm:
"Thai authorities say a Navy SEAL working to rescue the boys and their soccer coach trapped in a cave has died from lack of oxygen."

Cry


Yes read that this afternoon.

Makes you wonder about the boys chances when one of the experts dies.


Yeah.

I'm really worried for them.

I wish they could drill down and lift them up through a chimney.

The diving option just doesn't sound good.

Someone mentioned drugging them, and then dragging them out.

That might not be such a bad idea.

If they start to panic when going under water - and wouldn't we all - things could go south real quick.

Fingers crossed they all get out safe.


I'm thinking full face masks so voice intercom can be used, plus a low dose of valium.




Yep.

I think drugs need to play a part.

If it was me, I'd be freaking out.

I can't imagine what it would be like for a kid who can't even swim.




Are they Muslims?


Not many muztards up north


They breed, they spread. Chiang Rai is full of the cockroaches. They sell rotis in the street if you please.

Imagine all this fuss for a few Muselman. More Rohingas get wiped out each hour.
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Reply #51 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:04pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:48pm:
Yes Setanta.....they can easily enough get air to where the boys are (flexible pipes going through the water etc to where they are holed up) and wait it out.

Or maybe said pipes can be large enough to escape/wriggle through......Great Escape like?

Nagging question in the back of my mind.......how did they get to where they are if they did not go through water?

Did the water only get there after they got to where they are?


Yes.
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Reply #52 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:04pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:04pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:48pm:
Yes Setanta.....they can easily enough get air to where the boys are (flexible pipes going through the water etc to where they are holed up) and wait it out.

Or maybe said pipes can be large enough to escape/wriggle through......Great Escape like?

Nagging question in the back of my mind.......how did they get to where they are if they did not go through water?

Did the water only get there after they got to where they are?


Yes.


In just two weeks?
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Reply #53 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:05pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:58pm:
Karnal wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:50pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:48pm:
Yes Setanta.....they can easily enough get air to where the boys are (flexible pipes going through the water etc to where they are holed up) and wait it out.

Or maybe said pipes can be large enough to escape/wriggle through......Great Escape like?

Nagging question in the back of my mind.......how did they get to where they are if they did not go through water?

Did the water only get there after they got to where they are?


Yes, Aussie. It's the monsoon. There was a landslide.


A landslide......in a cave?


But of course. The rain came down and wiped poor Incie out.

Gordon's trying to figure out a way to blame Islam, but we know who to blame.

I blame Allah, but that's just me.
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Reply #54 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:05pm
 
Gordon wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:44pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:39pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:18pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:13pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:02pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 8:43pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 1:38pm:
"Thai authorities say a Navy SEAL working to rescue the boys and their soccer coach trapped in a cave has died from lack of oxygen."

Cry


Yes read that this afternoon.

Makes you wonder about the boys chances when one of the experts dies.


Yeah.

I'm really worried for them.

I wish they could drill down and lift them up through a chimney.

The diving option just doesn't sound good.

Someone mentioned drugging them, and then dragging them out.

That might not be such a bad idea.

If they start to panic when going under water - and wouldn't we all - things could go south real quick.

Fingers crossed they all get out safe.


I'm thinking full face masks so voice intercom can be used, plus a low dose of valium.




Yep.

I think drugs need to play a part.

If it was me, I'd be freaking out.

I can't imagine what it would be like for a kid who can't even swim.




If they could be in there until November, there's plenty of time to teach them not to fear the water. Bring them out as they accomplish what is needed.



Can the chamber they're in become totally submerged?




No idea. Has that been put forward at a scenario if heavy rain continues?
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Reply #55 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:06pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:04pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:04pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:48pm:
Yes Setanta.....they can easily enough get air to where the boys are (flexible pipes going through the water etc to where they are holed up) and wait it out.

Or maybe said pipes can be large enough to escape/wriggle through......Great Escape like?

Nagging question in the back of my mind.......how did they get to where they are if they did not go through water?

Did the water only get there after they got to where they are?


Yes.


In just two weeks?


In a few hours.
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Reply #56 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:08pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:04pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:04pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:48pm:
Yes Setanta.....they can easily enough get air to where the boys are (flexible pipes going through the water etc to where they are holed up) and wait it out.

Or maybe said pipes can be large enough to escape/wriggle through......Great Escape like?

Nagging question in the back of my mind.......how did they get to where they are if they did not go through water?

Did the water only get there after they got to where they are?


Yes.


In just two weeks?


Less I imagine as they were trapped after heavy rain. It seems obvious that they walked in before the rain started if you read the story. It's unfortunate the coach did not check weather forecasts.
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I am not trying to re-invent the wheel here. 

I am quite sure all this stuff has been dealt with on site.  So water came in......bloody good pumps can make water go out.

Water does not go up hill.
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Reply #58 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:09pm
 
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But of course. The rain came down and wiped poor Incie out.

Gordon's trying to figure out a way to blame Islam, but we know who to blame.

I blame Allah, but that's just me.


Well Allah is the only god and all things are his doing.
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How does water in those caves drain naturally?  Can't be evaporation.
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Reply #60 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:10pm
 
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I am not trying to re-invent the wheel here. 

I am quite sure all this stuff has been dealt with on site.  So water came in......bloody good pumps can make water go out.

Water does not go up hill.


They have bloody good pumps if you read the story. They are not bloody well good enough.
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Reply #61 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:11pm
 
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How does water in those caves drain naturally?  Can't be evaporation.


Slow process is my guess which is why they may be stuck there until November.
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Reply #62 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:18pm
 
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How does water in those caves drain naturally?  Can't be evaporation.


Slow process is my guess which is why they may be stuck there until November.


Nah....water drains downhill.

I'm sure those experts on site know that.  There has to be some unknown to us, on site fact.
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Reply #63 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:20pm
 
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Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:11pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:09pm:
How does water in those caves drain naturally?  Can't be evaporation.


Slow process is my guess which is why they may be stuck there until November.


Nah....water drains downhill.

I'm sure those experts on site know that.  There has to be some unknown to us, on site fact.


Nah f'in' what? You think it's just a scam? They are in a cave, a cave is under the ground, down hill. We have people over there helping them.
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Reply #64 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:23pm
 
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Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:09pm:
How does water in those caves drain naturally?  Can't be evaporation.


Slow process is my guess which is why they may be stuck there until November.


I'd imagine the cave floors would be fairly porous and drain as soon as the flow stops
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Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:20pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:18pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:11pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:09pm:
How does water in those caves drain naturally?  Can't be evaporation.


Slow process is my guess which is why they may be stuck there until November.


Nah....water drains downhill.

I'm sure those experts on site know that.  There has to be some unknown to us, on site fact.


Nah f'in' what? You think it's just a scam? They are in a cave, a cave is under the ground, down hill. We have people over there helping them.


Yes, I know.  How does that water drain?  It must drain after monsoons, yes?
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Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:08pm:
I am not trying to re-invent the wheel here. 

I am quite sure all this stuff has been dealt with on site.  So water came in......bloody good pumps can make water go out.

Water does not go up hill.


They have bloody good pumps if you read the story. They are not bloody well good enough.


1.  Ensure air supply.
2.  "Yer gonna need a bigger pump."
3.  Get the bigger pump.
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Reply #67 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:29pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:25pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:10pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:08pm:
I am not trying to re-invent the wheel here. 

I am quite sure all this stuff has been dealt with on site.  So water came in......bloody good pumps can make water go out.

Water does not go up hill.


They have bloody good pumps if you read the story. They are not bloody well good enough.


1.  Ensure air supply.
2.  "Yer gonna need a bigger pump."
3.  Get the bigger pump.


Perhaps you should lead this rescue mission, they have expertise from multiple countries trying to get them out and you know better. Jump on a plane and tell them how to do it Aussie.
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Reply #68 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:36pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:25pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:10pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:08pm:
I am not trying to re-invent the wheel here. 

I am quite sure all this stuff has been dealt with on site.  So water came in......bloody good pumps can make water go out.

Water does not go up hill.


They have bloody good pumps if you read the story. They are not bloody well good enough.


1.  Ensure air supply.
2.  "Yer gonna need a bigger pump."
3.  Get the bigger pump.


Yeah,  80s Australian soft rock will make all the difference.

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Reply #69 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:38pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:29pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:25pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:10pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:08pm:
I am not trying to re-invent the wheel here. 

I am quite sure all this stuff has been dealt with on site.  So water came in......bloody good pumps can make water go out.

Water does not go up hill.


They have bloody good pumps if you read the story. They are not bloody well good enough.


1.  Ensure air supply.
2.  "Yer gonna need a bigger pump."
3.  Get the bigger pump.


Perhaps you should lead this rescue mission, they have expertise from multiple countries trying to get them out and you know better. Jump on a plane and tell them how to do it Aussie.


Maybe there's a strawberry picker with his finger in a bung hole.
Take it out and the water will drain right out
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Reply #70 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:42pm
 
Gordon wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:38pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:29pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:25pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:10pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:08pm:
I am not trying to re-invent the wheel here. 

I am quite sure all this stuff has been dealt with on site.  So water came in......bloody good pumps can make water go out.

Water does not go up hill.


They have bloody good pumps if you read the story. They are not bloody well good enough.


1.  Ensure air supply.
2.  "Yer gonna need a bigger pump."
3.  Get the bigger pump.


Perhaps you should lead this rescue mission, they have expertise from multiple countries trying to get them out and you know better. Jump on a plane and tell them how to do it Aussie.


Maybe there's a strawberry picker with his finger in a bung hole.
Take it out and the water will drain right out


Are you saying she was a dyke?
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Reply #71 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:44pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:29pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:25pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:10pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:08pm:
I am not trying to re-invent the wheel here. 

I am quite sure all this stuff has been dealt with on site.  So water came in......bloody good pumps can make water go out.

Water does not go up hill.


They have bloody good pumps if you read the story. They are not bloody well good enough.


1.  Ensure air supply.
2.  "Yer gonna need a bigger pump."
3.  Get the bigger pump.


Perhaps you should lead this rescue mission, they have expertise from multiple countries trying to get them out and you know better. Jump on a plane and tell them how to do it Aussie.



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Reply #72 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 11:07pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:42pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:38pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:29pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:25pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:10pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:08pm:
I am not trying to re-invent the wheel here. 

I am quite sure all this stuff has been dealt with on site.  So water came in......bloody good pumps can make water go out.

Water does not go up hill.


They have bloody good pumps if you read the story. They are not bloody well good enough.


1.  Ensure air supply.
2.  "Yer gonna need a bigger pump."
3.  Get the bigger pump.


Perhaps you should lead this rescue mission, they have expertise from multiple countries trying to get them out and you know better. Jump on a plane and tell them how to do it Aussie.


Maybe there's a strawberry picker with his finger in a bung hole.
Take it out and the water will drain right out


Are you saying she was a dyke?


How would you tell from that position?
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Reply #73 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 11:09pm
 
Bobby wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:44pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:29pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:25pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:10pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:08pm:
I am not trying to re-invent the wheel here. 

I am quite sure all this stuff has been dealt with on site.  So water came in......bloody good pumps can make water go out.

Water does not go up hill.


They have bloody good pumps if you read the story. They are not bloody well good enough.


1.  Ensure air supply.
2.  "Yer gonna need a bigger pump."
3.  Get the bigger pump.


Perhaps you should lead this rescue mission, they have expertise from multiple countries trying to get them out and you know better. Jump on a plane and tell them how to do it Aussie.



Aussie couldn't escape from a wet paper bag.  Smiley


I'm surprised the Thai Government hasn't put out a call for Indian cabbie to come offer their expert opinion. Maybe roll them out on beaded seat covers?
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Reply #74 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 11:11pm
 
Gordon wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:36pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:25pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:10pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:08pm:
I am not trying to re-invent the wheel here. 

I am quite sure all this stuff has been dealt with on site.  So water came in......bloody good pumps can make water go out.

Water does not go up hill.


They have bloody good pumps if you read the story. They are not bloody well good enough.


1.  Ensure air supply.
2.  "Yer gonna need a bigger pump."
3.  Get the bigger pump.


Yeah,  80s Australian soft rock will make all the difference.

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Gordon wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:36pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:25pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:10pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:08pm:
I am not trying to re-invent the wheel here. 

I am quite sure all this stuff has been dealt with on site.  So water came in......bloody good pumps can make water go out.

Water does not go up hill.


They have bloody good pumps if you read the story. They are not bloody well good enough.


1.  Ensure air supply.
2.  "Yer gonna need a bigger pump."
3.  Get the bigger pump.


Yeah,  80s Australian soft rock will make all the difference.

I'm all out of love


Perhaps they should pour sugar and fruit flavour in the water and call in Salt and Peppa?
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Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:29pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:25pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:10pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:08pm:
I am not trying to re-invent the wheel here. 

I am quite sure all this stuff has been dealt with on site.  So water came in......bloody good pumps can make water go out.

Water does not go up hill.


They have bloody good pumps if you read the story. They are not bloody well good enough.


1.  Ensure air supply.
2.  "Yer gonna need a bigger pump."
3.  Get the bigger pump.


Perhaps you should lead this rescue mission, they have expertise from multiple countries trying to get them out and you know better. Jump on a plane and tell them how to do it Aussie.


Far cough.

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I am not trying to re-invent the wheel here. 

I am quite sure all this stuff has been dealt with on site.



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I am just glad we havent got someone claiming this is FAKE news already..

its bad enough some appear to not have the ability to see everything that is being done  if for the safety of those boys... and for no other reason...

I am so thankful they have been found and they are no longer alone and in the dark...... some are not well at all...just think they may rescue some and not others....whatever and however they do it .. THERE WILL BE MASSIVE RISK......who would be in the shoes of those making those calls????>..

come on guys   pray this ends well for everyone.....
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Karnal wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:47pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:18pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:13pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:02pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 8:43pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 1:38pm:
"Thai authorities say a Navy SEAL working to rescue the boys and their soccer coach trapped in a cave has died from lack of oxygen."

Cry


Yes read that this afternoon.

Makes you wonder about the boys chances when one of the experts dies.


Yeah.

I'm really worried for them.

I wish they could drill down and lift them up through a chimney.

The diving option just doesn't sound good.

Someone mentioned drugging them, and then dragging them out.

That might not be such a bad idea.

If they start to panic when going under water - and wouldn't we all - things could go south real quick.

Fingers crossed they all get out safe.


I'm thinking full face masks so voice intercom can be used, plus a low dose of valium.




Yep.

I think drugs need to play a part.

If it was me, I'd be freaking out.

I can't imagine what it would be like for a kid who can't even swim.




Are they Muslims?


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Looks like the rescue is under way.


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The rescue attempt is expected to get under way later today. Journalists were asked to leave the site this morning with a new media centre set up 3km away. Thai authorities confirmed the decision was made so that a rescue operation can take place.

It will be a nervous wait when emergency workers make the descent into the caves. Without a reliable source of communication we may not know if the operation has been a success until the divers re-emerge about 12 hours later.

US and Australian divers have reportedly joined the Thai Navy as workers prepare for the rescue attempt. Among them is Adelaide anaethetist and diving expert Dr Richard Harris.

The plight of the trapped group has made news around the world since they became stranded in a cramped chamber of the Tham Luang cave complex on June 23.

Earlier, billionaire entrepreneur Elon Musk tweeted he was flying a “tiny, kid-sized submarine” over to Thailand after mulling over a number of different ideas to help the rescue effort.

“Primary path is basically a tiny, kid-size submarine using the liquid oxygen transfer tube of Falcon rocket as hull. Light enough to be carried by 2 divers, small enough to get through narrow gaps. Extremely robust,” he wrote.

Previously, Musk and his tech team were discussing an “escape pod design” or “inflatable tube” to get the boys and their coach out

“Now and in the next three or four days, the conditions are perfect (for evacuation) in terms of the water, the weather and the boys’ health,” rescue operation chief Narongsak Osottanakorn said.

“We have to make a clear decision on what we can do.”

Mr Osottanakorn said officials are “still at the state of war against the water” and that no plans are perfect.

“All the plans must not have any holes in them,” he said, noting that “hundreds of people have vetted this” and “there will always be margins for error.”

He said authorities are waiting for two big groups of volunteer divers to arrive later today, after which they’ll be ready to begin the operation of bringing them out.

He says: “The plan that I’ve held on to from the beginning is that we have to bring the kids out and the determining factor of this plan is to have as little water as possible.”

He said floodwaters have been drained as much as possible, “but if it rains and adds to it again, we don’t know what other risk factors we will have to face.”

He also warned about higher carbon dioxide levels in the cave.

The young soccer coach who has been trapped for two weeks inside a partially flooded Thai cave with his team of 12 boys has apologised to the parents of the boys in a scrawled note released by the Thai Navy.

“To the parents of all the kids, right now the kids are all fine, the crew are taking good care,” Ekapol Chanthawong wrote. “I promise I will care for the kids as best as possible. I want to say thanks for all the support and I want to apologise to the parents.”

A total of seven pages were posted on the Thai Navy SEALs Facebook page, with messages apparently from each of the boys — aged 11 to 16 — and their 25-year-old coach.

Their brief notes express gratitude, love as well as dreams of food. “I want to eat pan-fried pork,” one of the boys writes.

“Don’t worry, everyone is strong”, one letter read. “When we get out of here, we want to eat many things. We want to go home as soon as possible,” adds the message.

The group has been trapped more than 4km inside the cave in northern Thailand since June 23.






well done everyone   its now or never....

what these kids have been through  this swim could be a walk in the park for them.......I pray it is.. Kiss Kiss Kisslove and kisses  from Australia,..
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how many Billionaires do we have in the world??

and yet its only Elon Musk that ever puts his hand up to help...
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The Mechanic wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:26pm:
how many Billionaires do we have in the world??

and yet its only Elon Musk that ever puts his hand up to help...


Well, there are plenty of foreign volunteers there.

One English guy who owns a diving company in Ko Tao has moved every last piece of diving equipment there.

I'm not saying Musk isn't genuine in his offers for to help, but remember everything he does incorporates an element of show business.
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The Mechanic wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:26pm:
how many Billionaires do we have in the world??

and yet its only Elon Musk that ever puts his hand up to help...


Not everything is reported in the 6 o'clock "news", and not all philanthropists like to go public.

In fact, most don't.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:36pm:
The Mechanic wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:26pm:
how many Billionaires do we have in the world??

and yet its only Elon Musk that ever puts his hand up to help...


Not everything is reported in the 6 o'clock "news", and not all philanthropists like to go public.

In fact, most don't.



that is so true......what have you done mechanic???...other than make cracks like that?..

money actually wouldnt change much.....the heros are all there risking their lives for no payment...all they want is 12 kids and their coach back home.....

Elon Musk is in fact sending engineers well done to him
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The Mechanic wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:26pm:
how many Billionaires do we have in the world??

and yet its only Elon Musk that ever puts his hand up to help...


No, I think Mr Trump offered to send some golf course developers in, Mechanic.

His thoughts and his prayers are with the families, you see.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:36pm:
The Mechanic wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:26pm:
how many Billionaires do we have in the world??

and yet its only Elon Musk that ever puts his hand up to help...


Not everything is reported in the 6 o'clock "news", and not all philanthropists like to go public.

In fact, most don't.



that is so true......what have you done mechanic???...other than make cracks like that  


Now now, dear, the Mechanic has lobbied extensively to keep people like that out of America.

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Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:36pm:
The Mechanic wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:26pm:
how many Billionaires do we have in the world??

and yet its only Elon Musk that ever puts his hand up to help...


Well, there are plenty of foreign volunteers there.

One English guy who owns a diving company in Ko Tao has moved every last piece of diving equipment there.

I'm not saying Musk isn't genuine in his offers for to help, but remember everything he does incorporates an element of show business.


yeah I realise that theres a massive effort on the part of cave Divers around the world... including australia... they are hero's...

but sometimes we need someone who has got a great idea and money to back it... like Musk's mini sub.... if it works sounds like a great idea...

if he gets publicity who cares ... as long as they get the kids out...

in the mean time... what other Billionaire has put his hand up to actually do something useful to help in this crisis??

im betting they are sending thoughts and prayers...

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Elon Musk is sending a team of SpaceX and Boring Company engineers to Thailand to help rescue efforts for the twelve boys and their soccer coach trapped in a cave.

Several of Musk's companies could potentially be put to use rescuing the boys,
including the radar location technology from the Boring Co. and SpaceX, plus drills and pumps to drain water and high-power Tesla Powerwall battery packs.


Boring Co. is a venture that is building tunnels for high-speed urban transportation.

The Thai government released a statement Friday on Facebook confirming that Musk's team will arrive in Chiang Rai on Saturday. Tesla confirmed that he is in talks with Thailand officials.

A soccer team of twelve boys and their coach went missing late last month, only to be found on Monday trapped in a cave flooded by heavy rains. Many of the passageways leading into the cave are narrow, and most of the boys do not know how to swim.

And the situation is growing more desperate: A former Thai Navy SEAL died from lack of oxygen on Friday while attempting to replace oxygen canisters for the boys.

The Tesla and SpaceX CEO tweeted on Wednesday that he was "happy to help" the Thai government's rescue efforts, and by Thursday he was pitching ideas over Twitter with James Yenbamroong, CEO of Thai space startup mu Space Corp, about potential strategies that could work.

"Maybe worth trying: insert a 1m diameter nylon tube (or shorter set of tubes for most difficult sections) through cave network & inflate with air like a bouncy castle," Musk tweeted Thursday. "Should create an air tunnel underwater against cave roof & auto-conform to odd shapes like the 70cm hole."


Great idea... run a liner through the tunnel and pump it clear of water... kids walk out...
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The Mechanic wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 4:34pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:36pm:
The Mechanic wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:26pm:
how many Billionaires do we have in the world??

and yet its only Elon Musk that ever puts his hand up to help...


Well, there are plenty of foreign volunteers there.

One English guy who owns a diving company in Ko Tao has moved every last piece of diving equipment there.

I'm not saying Musk isn't genuine in his offers for to help, but remember everything he does incorporates an element of show business.


yeah I realise that theres a massive effort on the part of cave Divers around the world... including australia... they are hero's...

but sometimes we need someone who has got a great idea and money to back it... like Musk's mini sub.... if it works sounds like a great idea...

if he gets publicity who cares ... as long as they get the kids out...

in the mean time... what other Billionaire has put his hand up to actually do something useful to help in this crisis??

im betting they are sending thoughts and prayers...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWCCiSQVMAA8lB_.jpg




we seriously have no idea how bad it all is... 4 kl is a long way to be under rock and water....on paper I am sure everything looks easy peasy....I have faith in what they are doing   is the best way.....
for the safety of everyone    having lost one diver   it makes it even more  daunting...

they couldnt pay me enough money to go in there...I am in awe!!!!!
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How did they get stuck in the cave to a point where they could not get out? Did they do a visit, it started raining, and they could not go back?
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How did they get stuck in the cave to a point where they could not get out? Did they do a visit, it started raining, and they could not go back?


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How did they get stuck in the cave to a point where they could not get out? Did they do a visit, it started raining, and they could not go back?




where have you been????????

we will find out more when they are rescued......lets wait till then    get them out first..
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UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:30pm:
How did they get stuck in the cave to a point where they could not get out? Did they do a visit, it started raining, and they could not go back?




where have you been????????

we will find out more when they are rescued......lets wait till then    get them out first..


Unsub hasn't heard any news as he's been stuck in a cave.
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The Mechanic wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 4:34pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:36pm:
The Mechanic wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:26pm:
how many Billionaires do we have in the world??

and yet its only Elon Musk that ever puts his hand up to help...


Well, there are plenty of foreign volunteers there.

One English guy who owns a diving company in Ko Tao has moved every last piece of diving equipment there.

I'm not saying Musk isn't genuine in his offers for to help, but remember everything he does incorporates an element of show business.


yeah I realise that theres a massive effort on the part of cave Divers around the world... including australia... they are hero's...

but sometimes we need someone who has got a great idea and money to back it... like Musk's mini sub.... if it works sounds like a great idea...

if he gets publicity who cares ... as long as they get the kids out...

in the mean time... what other Billionaire has put his hand up to actually do something useful to help in this crisis??

im betting they are sending thoughts and prayers...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWCCiSQVMAA8lB_.jpg


They are, Mechanic, but not money. Remember what Mr Trump just said about donating and volunteering in his recent campaign speech?

He said he gets make Amerika great again, he gets build a big beautiful wall, but thousand points of light?

What's that about?
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UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:30pm:
How did they get stuck in the cave to a point where they could not get out? Did they do a visit, it started raining, and they could not go back?


Yes.



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UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:30pm:
How did they get stuck in the cave to a point where they could not get out? Did they do a visit, it started raining, and they could not go back?


Yes.



BUILD THE WALL.


I wonder if they'll have any muhammadan cave style revelations?
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Reply #97 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:54pm
 
Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:51pm:
Karnal wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:47pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:31pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:30pm:
How did they get stuck in the cave to a point where they could not get out? Did they do a visit, it started raining, and they could not go back?


Yes.



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I wonder if they'll have any muhammadan cave style revelations?


Not if they keep thinking about fried pork.

If they wanted Massaman curry, maybe.
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Bobby wrote on Jul 4th, 2018 at 12:10am:
Karnal wrote on Jul 3rd, 2018 at 9:55pm:
Ee-gad, a bunch of 13 year old boys stuck down a deep dark cave. I wonder what they were doing down there.

Bobby?



The person who led them there at a time of possible heavy rain is an idiot.


Yep just like these idiots. Makes me cringe just watching it Sad These caves should be sealed up to stop idiots from getting the darwin award for stupidity !

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Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:57pm:
Bobby wrote on Jul 4th, 2018 at 12:10am:
Karnal wrote on Jul 3rd, 2018 at 9:55pm:
Ee-gad, a bunch of 13 year old boys stuck down a deep dark cave. I wonder what they were doing down there.

Bobby?



The person who led them there at a time of possible heavy rain is an idiot.


Yep just like these idiots. Makes me cringe just watching it Sad These caves should be sealed up to stop idiots from getting the darwin award for stupidity !



Gordon says they're Muslims, Nail, so it's not surprising.
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sarah hansen young says all men are rapists.
the childcare loons wish to ban little boys playing with toy guns or plastic swords.

"toxic masculinity" is what the left see.

and yet here we see the true "noble masculinity".

a thai seal already has "laid down his life".

and, it would appear every person going into the cave to do this noble work is of the masculine persuasion.

we can also look at these noble boys and their coach showing stoicism, courage and perseverence.

masculinity isnt about rape culture and destruction.

it is about bearing the burden without complaint.

i doubt these seals are in some seal union, whining about getting penalty rates for working overtime.

they are acting in a spirit of contribution and moving forward with nobility.

people like SHY and her millions of virtue signalling , bed wetting, white knights and associated man hating leftie intellectuals would do well to watch theses noble men going about their work.

hope theses brave men get these brave boys out.

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Reply #101 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 6:57pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:57pm:
Bobby wrote on Jul 4th, 2018 at 12:10am:
Karnal wrote on Jul 3rd, 2018 at 9:55pm:
Ee-gad, a bunch of 13 year old boys stuck down a deep dark cave. I wonder what they were doing down there.

Bobby?



The person who led them there at a time of possible heavy rain is an idiot.


Yep just like these idiots. Makes me cringe just watching it Sad These caves should be sealed up to stop idiots from getting the darwin award for stupidity !




Yes Nail,
caves should be closed off.
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Dunno how accurate this is:

...

Assuming accuracy......I still dunno how the managed to get where they are.  Rescuers have had to manually 'mine' to enlarge small crevices/holes....so how they initially got through them is yet to be explained.
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Dunno how accurate this is:

https://media.kesq.com/npg-global-us-east-1/photo/2018/07/04/thai%20cave%20map.j...

Assuming accuracy......I still dunno how the managed to get where they are.  Rescuers have had to manually 'mine' to enlarge small crevices/holes....so how they initially got through them is yet to be explained.


Are you senile?

What do they need to use to get out that they didn't need to get in? You're as thick as the day is long.
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aquascoot wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 6:37pm:
sarah hansen young says all men are rapists.
the childcare loons wish to ban little boys playing with toy guns or plastic swords.

"toxic masculinity" is what the left see.

and yet here we see the true "noble masculinity".

a thai seal already has "laid down his life".

and, it would appear every person going into the cave to do this noble work is of the masculine persuasion.

we can also look at these noble boys and their coach showing stoicism, courage and perseverence.

masculinity isnt about rape culture and destruction.

it is about bearing the burden without complaint.

i doubt these seals are in some seal union, whining about getting penalty rates for working overtime.

they are acting in a spirit of contribution and moving forward with nobility.

people like SHY and her millions of virtue signalling , bed wetting, white knights and associated man hating leftie intellectuals would do well to watch theses noble men going about their work.

hope theses brave men get these brave boys out.

life is harsh
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move forward with nobility


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aquascoot wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 6:37pm:
sarah hansen young says all men are rapists.
the childcare loons wish to ban little boys playing with toy guns or plastic swords.

"toxic masculinity" is what the left see.

and yet here we see the true "noble masculinity".

a thai seal already has "laid down his life".

and, it would appear every person going into the cave to do this noble work is of the masculine persuasion.

we can also look at these noble boys and their coach showing stoicism, courage and perseverence.

masculinity isnt about rape culture and destruction.

it is about bearing the burden without complaint.

i doubt these seals are in some seal union, whining about getting penalty rates for working overtime.

they are acting in a spirit of contribution and moving forward with nobility.

people like SHY and her millions of virtue signalling , bed wetting, white knights and associated man hating leftie intellectuals would do well to watch theses noble men going about their work.

hope theses brave men get these brave boys out.

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No, she doesn't.

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I thought they were stuck in a rut, but it seems they are privileged school boys...  (humph) we never got to go on cave trips when I was at school...

Yes - all the rescuers are, as usual, men .... same as combat troops for real and not the occasional accidental tourist who gets into a firefight by mistake.

Can't wait to see the results from 50% women Infantry and other hard yard services.... Navy is one thing... they live on a boat and get fed very well without doing too much physical work - Air Force is a skate.. they send their officers out to fight sitting in comfy seats and have a massive tail-to-tooth ratio that suits women admirably...

When The Next Big One breaks out..... the nation will be so appalled by the casualties that it will ban women from frontline service...

As the man said about the US decision to build only 400 A-10s - it's good to know your political leadership don't seriously think there'll be any real war soon...

Bet their sons and daughters don't pay for it, though.. nothing new there....
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aquascoot wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 6:37pm:
sarah hansen young says all men are rapists.
the childcare loons wish to ban little boys playing with toy guns or plastic swords.

"toxic masculinity" is what the left see.

and yet here we see the true "noble masculinity".

a thai seal already has "laid down his life".

and, it would appear every person going into the cave to do this noble work is of the masculine persuasion.

we can also look at these noble boys and their coach showing stoicism, courage and perseverence.

masculinity isnt about rape culture and destruction.

it is about bearing the burden without complaint.

i doubt these seals are in some seal union, whining about getting penalty rates for working overtime.

they are acting in a spirit of contribution and moving forward with nobility.

people like SHY and her millions of virtue signalling , bed wetting, white knights and associated man hating leftie intellectuals would do well to watch theses noble men going about their work.

hope theses brave men get these brave boys out.

life is harsh
nature is relentless.

move forward with nobility


I wonder how many women are there helping...  Undecided

do we need to get a quota system running??

Equal pay of course... but only if they do EQUAL work....
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Caving can be a dangerous business...

dropping down into one cavern to another can be easy... but then try to get UP... and OUT ... of that same cavern ... that same small Hole ... and see how easy it is..

Try entering a HUGE Cavern from a small hole.. continuing on and then later coming back to that HUGE Cavern... in dim light.. and remember that you came there through a small hole at one dark end of the cavern that you cannot see...

i recollect 4 of us Military personal, could not find a way out for around 15 minutes.. which seemed like an hour... you had to go to one end of the cavern which got smaller and smaller like a wedge.. darker and darker with your small helmet light... and then once you were at the end of the wedge... look directly to the right to see the small hole of which you entered....

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its on... !

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Unconfirmed Thai media reports say two to three boys are on the brink of emerging from the cave system after successfully negotiating the difficult channels.

It is anticipated they will remain at a medical station near the entrance for health assessment and for their eyes to adjust to the light after some two weeks underground.
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its on... !

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Unconfirmed Thai media reports say two to three boys are on the brink of emerging from the cave system after successfully negotiating the difficult channels.

It is anticipated they will remain at a medical station near the entrance for health assessment and for their eyes to adjust to the light after some two weeks underground.


Of course it is unconfirmed.  The schmedia have been told to piss off.  They are now several kilometers away from the site.  Good.  They can far cough.
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2 are out and a 3rd on his way- they are receiving medical treatment now  (( confirmed))

ABC live 24
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they have had ambulances rushing away from the place  so I think its safe to say the media have it right.....at least 3 boys out 2 on the way to the helicopter...they are 60 ks from the hospital...

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2 out and a 3rd on his way- ((confirmed ))

https://iview.abc.net.au/show/abc-news-24

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I am sure the ABC smedia wouldnt make it up to get a headline... even in a case like this..
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2 are out and a 3rd on his way- they are receiving medical treatment now  (( confirmed))

ABC live 24


Yes, ABC 24 report that......odd they are now reporting on another topic.

Not confirmed.

Why the anxiety to report what is not yet known.  Just wait ferfuxsake.
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The Mechanic wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 9:52pm:
its on... !

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Unconfirmed Thai media reports say two to three boys are on the brink of emerging from the cave system after successfully negotiating the difficult channels.

It is anticipated they will remain at a medical station near the entrance for health assessment and for their eyes to adjust to the light after some two weeks underground.


Of course it is unconfirmed.  The schmedia have been told to piss off.  They are now several kilometers away from the site.  Good.  They can far cough.

its confirmed Aussie- to say anyone would make it up= WTH- 2 confirmed out and a 3rd still coming
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Agnes wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:17pm:
2 are out and a 3rd on his way- they are receiving medical treatment now  (( confirmed))

ABC live 24


Yes, ABC 24 report that......odd they are now reporting on another topic.

Not confirmed.

Why the anxiety to report what is not yet known.  Just wait ferfuxsake.

Its Confirmed - stop being stupid !!!!!!!!!
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aquascoot wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 6:37pm:
sarah hansen young says all men are rapists.


No, she doesn't.



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Confirmed by whom?  Where are the pics?  Why the rush?

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Confirmed by whom?  Where are the pics?  Why the rush?

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Liam Cochrane is not 'there.'  He is three kilometers away from the site.
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Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:26pm:
Confirmed by whom?  Where are the pics?  Why the rush?

Wait.


You are wrong and im not hanging around here argueing with your dementia


Good.  Far cough.

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...and now ABC 24 is showing a repeat of One on One.  Yes.  They are right on top of this.  Totally up to the minute.


Why the need to post here in some sort of rush that some kids are out?

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wait or far cough make up your mind

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Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:26pm:
Confirmed by whom?  Where are the pics?  Why the rush?

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Pics or it didn't happen!?

not you too- ? dont follow aussie he has known to be wrong many times- they are receiving medical treatment and read that lnk- i have seen them in the 24 news footage- put the cans down and concentrate
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Reply #128 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:36pm
 
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Read the language.....'reported.'

Why do you feel some urge to tell us something we are all well on top off.

It is yet.....unconfirmed.

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Reply #129 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:36pm
 
Confirmed 3 out.

Stick to being a turd sorter, cabbie

https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/live-preparations-for-thailand-cave-rescue-begin-20180708-p4zq7a.html
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Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:36pm:
Confirmed 3 out.

Stick to being a turd sorter, cabbie

https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/live-preparations-for-thailand-cave-rescue-begin-20180708-p4zq7a.html

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Reply #131 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:40pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:31pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:26pm:
Confirmed by whom?  Where are the pics?  Why the rush?

Wait.


Pics or it didn't happen!?





the have their own media at the site.. and why not?....

its their country they can do what they like...

the last thing they need is microphones being stuck in the face of a 12 year old who has been in a cave for 15 days.. and asked  how does it feel to be rescued...

which is likely what someone for NBC would do...

I think the Governor has done a terrific job.....the world is waiting for the news... and they are getting it all in good time...
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Reply #132 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:42pm
 
Agnes wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:38pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:36pm:
Confirmed 3 out.

Stick to being a turd sorter, cabbie

https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/live-preparations-for-thailand-cave-rescue-begin-20180708-p4zq7a.html

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Funny how turdo hates the media, yet he's a lawyer AND a cabbie. That's basically like a bucket of schit with some more schit thrown on top.
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Reply #133 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:42pm
 
Agnes wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:38pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:36pm:
Confirmed 3 out.

Stick to being a turd sorter, cabbie

https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/live-preparations-for-thailand-cave-rescue-begin-20180708-p4zq7a.html

LOL thanks Gordon- !!!!!!


Oh yeas.  As if the SMH has a reporter closer than three kilometres away from the scene.  Do you have no idea how schmedia works?  They all trip over themselves for the scoop......truth is irrelevant.  Near enough is good enough. 

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Reply #134 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:43pm
 
Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:42pm:
Agnes wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:38pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:36pm:
Confirmed 3 out.

Stick to being a turd sorter, cabbie

https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/live-preparations-for-thailand-cave-rescue-begin-20180708-p4zq7a.html

LOL thanks Gordon- !!!!!!


Funny how turdo hates the media, yet he's a lawyer AND a cabbie. That's basically like a bucket of schit with some more schit thrown on top.



Be nice Gordy  Grin
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No.  It is 'reported' there is ONE camera on site.  I applaud that.  Fuq the schmedia.  This is not about them or us.

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Reply #136 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:48pm
 
Stupid turdo. Best you stick to strawberry picking.

Two kids are out. They are currently at the field hospital near the cave," Tossathep Boonthong, chief of the health department in Chiang Rai in northern Thailand, told Reuters


http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-08/first-boys-rescued-from-thai-cave/99560...
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Reply #137 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:49pm
 
Agnes wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:36pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:31pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:26pm:
Confirmed by whom?  Where are the pics?  Why the rush?

Wait.


Pics or it didn't happen!?

not you too- ? dont follow aussie he has known to be wrong many times- they are receiving medical treatment and read that lnk- i have seen them in the 24 news footage- put the cans down and concentrate


I was questioning his "pics or it didn't happen" stance. Notice the "?" at the end of it?
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Reply #138 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:54pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:49pm:
Agnes wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:36pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:31pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:26pm:
Confirmed by whom?  Where are the pics?  Why the rush?

Wait.


Pics or it didn't happen!?

not you too- ? dont follow aussie he has known to be wrong many times- they are receiving medical treatment and read that lnk- i have seen them in the 24 news footage- put the cans down and concentrate


I was questioning his "pics or it didn't happen" stance.


I know you were.

But this is typical of schmedia snake oil the gullible and willing swallow:

Quote:
chief of the health department in Chiang Rai in northern Thailand, told Reuters


An un-named person occupying a generalised 'chief' position somewhere 'told' Reuters.

In other words... hearsay and not confirmed.

Wait.
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Reply #139 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:59pm
 
Just give up, turdo

“Two kids are out. They are currently at the field hospital near the cave,” Tossathep Boonthong, chief of the health department in Chiang Rai in northern Thailand, told Reuters. “We are giving them a physical examination.”

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-thailand-accident-cave/first-two-thai-schoolboys-rescued-from-flooded-cave-idUSKBN1JY02N
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Reply #140 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:03pm
 
For a 'soccer' team.
Those Thai kids sure don't know how to 'dive'.

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Reply #141 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:08pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:54pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:49pm:
Agnes wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:36pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:31pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:26pm:
Confirmed by whom?  Where are the pics?  Why the rush?

Wait.


Pics or it didn't happen!?

not you too- ? dont follow aussie he has known to be wrong many times- they are receiving medical treatment and read that lnk- i have seen them in the 24 news footage- put the cans down and concentrate


I was questioning his "pics or it didn't happen" stance.


I know you were.

But this is typical of schmedia snake oil the gullible and willing swallow:

Quote:
chief of the health department in Chiang Rai in northern Thailand, told Reuters


An un-named person occupying a generalised 'chief' position somewhere 'told' Reuters.

In other words... hearsay and not confirmed.

Wait.


Seeing as the information is coming from the Thai govt it's safe to assume what they say is true. The world is watching, the world has sent help, I doubt they are fibbing. No need to wait, some are coming out.
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Reply #142 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:12pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:08pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:54pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:49pm:
Agnes wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:36pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:31pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:26pm:
Confirmed by whom?  Where are the pics?  Why the rush?

Wait.


Pics or it didn't happen!?

not you too- ? dont follow aussie he has known to be wrong many times- they are receiving medical treatment and read that lnk- i have seen them in the 24 news footage- put the cans down and concentrate


I was questioning his "pics or it didn't happen" stance.


I know you were.

But this is typical of schmedia snake oil the gullible and willing swallow:

Quote:
chief of the health department in Chiang Rai in northern Thailand, told Reuters


An un-named person occupying a generalised 'chief' position somewhere 'told' Reuters.

In other words... hearsay and not confirmed.

Wait.


Seeing as the information is coming from the Thai govt it's safe to assume what they say is true. The world is watching, the world has sent help, I doubt they are fibbing. No need to wait, some are coming out.


Did you notice how aussie altered my quote, deleted the name of the Thai official then went on to say the official was un named?  Wonder why he did that?
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Reply #143 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:12pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:08pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:54pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:49pm:
Agnes wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:36pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:31pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:26pm:
Confirmed by whom?  Where are the pics?  Why the rush?

Wait.


Pics or it didn't happen!?

not you too- ? dont follow aussie he has known to be wrong many times- they are receiving medical treatment and read that lnk- i have seen them in the 24 news footage- put the cans down and concentrate


I was questioning his "pics or it didn't happen" stance.


I know you were.

But this is typical of schmedia snake oil the gullible and willing swallow:

Quote:
chief of the health department in Chiang Rai in northern Thailand, told Reuters


An un-named person occupying a generalised 'chief' position somewhere 'told' Reuters.

In other words... hearsay and not confirmed.

Wait.


Seeing as the information is coming from the Thai govt it's safe to assume what they say is true. The world is watching, the world has sent help, I doubt they are fibbing. No need to wait, some are coming out.

YAY

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Reply #144 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:15pm
 
Agnes wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:12pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:08pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:54pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:49pm:
Agnes wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:36pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:31pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:26pm:
Confirmed by whom?  Where are the pics?  Why the rush?

Wait.


Pics or it didn't happen!?

not you too- ? dont follow aussie he has known to be wrong many times- they are receiving medical treatment and read that lnk- i have seen them in the 24 news footage- put the cans down and concentrate


I was questioning his "pics or it didn't happen" stance.


I know you were.

But this is typical of schmedia snake oil the gullible and willing swallow:

Quote:
chief of the health department in Chiang Rai in northern Thailand, told Reuters


An un-named person occupying a generalised 'chief' position somewhere 'told' Reuters.

In other words... hearsay and not confirmed.

Wait.


Seeing as the information is coming from the Thai govt it's safe to assume what they say is true. The world is watching, the world has sent help, I doubt they are fibbing. No need to wait, some are coming out.

YAY

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Can you imagine the international embarrassment for Thailand if they "fake newsed" this? I can't see that being the case.

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Reply #145 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:18pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:15pm:
Agnes wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:12pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:08pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:54pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:49pm:
Agnes wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:36pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:31pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:26pm:
Confirmed by whom?  Where are the pics?  Why the rush?

Wait.


Pics or it didn't happen!?

not you too- ? dont follow aussie he has known to be wrong many times- they are receiving medical treatment and read that lnk- i have seen them in the 24 news footage- put the cans down and concentrate


I was questioning his "pics or it didn't happen" stance.


I know you were.

But this is typical of schmedia snake oil the gullible and willing swallow:

Quote:
chief of the health department in Chiang Rai in northern Thailand, told Reuters


An un-named person occupying a generalised 'chief' position somewhere 'told' Reuters.

In other words... hearsay and not confirmed.

Wait.


Seeing as the information is coming from the Thai govt it's safe to assume what they say is true. The world is watching, the world has sent help, I doubt they are fibbing. No need to wait, some are coming out.

YAY

Smiley   Smiley


Can you imagine the international embarrassment for Thailand if they "fake newsed" this? I can't see that being the case.


Yes indeed but still a long way to go- must be horrible down there- amazing aussie divers/rescuers-  great stories to tell the kids one day
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Reply #146 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:20pm
 
Aussie, why did you alter my quote?

This is what I posted which included the name of the thai official.  You deleted it then said the official was un named.

Are you a compulsive liar?

Two kids are out. They are currently at the field hospital near the cave," Tossathep Boonthong, chief of the health department in Chiang Rai in northern Thailand, told Reuters
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Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:20pm:
Aussie, why did you alter my quote?

This is what I posted which included the name of the thai official.  You deleted it then said the official was un named.

Are you a compulsive liar?

Two kids are out. They are currently at the field hospital near the cave," Tossathep Boonthong, chief of the health department in Chiang Rai in northern Thailand, told Reuters


You'll have to point it out, I can't see it.
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Reply #148 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:26pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:23pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:20pm:
Aussie, why did you alter my quote?

This is what I posted which included the name of the thai official.  You deleted it then said the official was un named.

Are you a compulsive liar?

Two kids are out. They are currently at the field hospital near the cave," Tossathep Boonthong, chief of the health department in Chiang Rai in northern Thailand, told Reuters


You'll have to point it out, I can't see it.



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Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:26pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:23pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:20pm:
Aussie, why did you alter my quote?

This is what I posted which included the name of the thai official.  You deleted it then said the official was un named.

Are you a compulsive liar?

Two kids are out. They are currently at the field hospital near the cave," Tossathep Boonthong, chief of the health department in Chiang Rai in northern Thailand, told Reuters


You'll have to point it out, I can't see it.



Wink



I see, cutting you sentence to misrepresent which is against the rules? What say you in your defence Aussie? You now it's a "win a free holiday" thing.
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Reply #150 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:31pm
 
From here

I posted this, Aussie deleted the section highlighted and then said the source was unamed

Two kids are out. They are currently at the field hospital near the cave," Tossathep Boonthong, chief of the health department in Chiang Rai in northern Thailand, told Reuters


http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1530613863/136#136
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Rueters reports at least 6 boys have left the cave
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Agnes wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:36pm:
Rueters report 6 boys have left the cave


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Rueters report 6 boys have left the cave


Schmedia   Smiley  Smiley

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From here

I posted this, Aussie deleted the section highlighted and then said the source was unamed

Two kids are out. They are currently at the field hospital near the cave," Tossathep Boonthong, chief of the health department in Chiang Rai in northern Thailand, told Reuters


http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1530613863/136#136

a very oily snakey thing to do
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Reply #155 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:39pm
 
Agnes wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:38pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:37pm:
Agnes wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:36pm:
Rueters report 6 boys have left the cave


Schmedia   Smiley  Smiley

yes filthy snake oil salesmen


You need to wait!

CHIANG RAI, Thailand (Reuters) - Six of 12 schoolboys have been rescued so far from a flooded Thai cave after divers launched a daring and dangerous mission to free the children and their soccer coach, who were trapped underground for more than two weeks, Thai officials said.
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Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:39pm:
Agnes wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:38pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:37pm:
Agnes wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:36pm:
Rueters report 6 boys have left the cave


Schmedia   Smiley  Smiley

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CHIANG RAI, Thailand (Reuters) - Six of 12 schoolboys have been rescued so far from a flooded Thai cave after divers launched a daring and dangerous mission to free the children and their soccer coach, who were trapped underground for more than two weeks, Thai officials said.


Fake news, there were no children in there. They were holidaying in Hawaii.

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at least 6 have left the cave

https://iview.abc.net.au/show/abc-news-24


but we have to wait !!!!
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Reply #158 - Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:12am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 7:30pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 6:37pm:
sarah hansen young says all men are rapists.
the childcare loons wish to ban little boys playing with toy guns or plastic swords.

"toxic masculinity" is what the left see.

and yet here we see the true "noble masculinity".

a thai seal already has "laid down his life".

and, it would appear every person going into the cave to do this noble work is of the masculine persuasion.

we can also look at these noble boys and their coach showing stoicism, courage and perseverence.

masculinity isnt about rape culture and destruction.

it is about bearing the burden without complaint.

i doubt these seals are in some seal union, whining about getting penalty rates for working overtime.

they are acting in a spirit of contribution and moving forward with nobility.

people like SHY and her millions of virtue signalling , bed wetting, white knights and associated man hating leftie intellectuals would do well to watch theses noble men going about their work.

hope theses brave men get these brave boys out.

life is harsh
nature is relentless.

move forward with nobility


No, she doesn't.




LOL.

sarah is raw emotional energy.
if she had a good man in her life, these emotional winds would dissipate as they blew against his rock solid core confidence.
but alas, she is surrounded by more erratic emotional energy...uncalibrated weepers and virtue signallers.

but this thailand tale is an "archethypal story" (look up carl jung if you want to know about archetypal stories.

Jung said that archetypal stories "grip us" because they are deeply rooted in the narrative (oral tradition) that is at our core.

and , it is quite obvious that the world is "gripped by this story".

it is steeped in hero mythology.
the hero,(the rescuers and to some extent the boys) goes deep into the cave (where the reptiles and dragons are).
he goes in with his calm assertive energy.
he overcomes his fears and in doing so , he expands himself as a person.
the boys too , suffered but without squealing and without complaint.
they didnt play the victim (the leftie game)
when they got on the phone, they didnt tell their paretns to contact "gordon and slater lawyers" (the leftie game).  they looked after each other. they remained calm. they mastered their emotions (something a green senator will never do)

these mythological stories are what enabled humans to "move forward" and "conquer chaos".
they are the remedy for chaos.


the modern left want to create a utopia where fat steve and fat janeen can sit around and be looked after because, because...well just because.
the lefts story is doomed to failure.
if you dont rise to the evolutionary pressure, then you cannot move forward as an individual and the society cannot move forward as a collective.

as the left have tried , at every turn , to get rid of this pressure, they have made people weak soft selfish and entitled. they have made them emotionally labile and prone to negative emotions.

it is time for the hero mythology of the noble man to be made front and centre again.

we have inklings of this in our political system.
it appears society is waking up to the pox that is the weak , virtue signalling , weak man

and not  a moment too soon.

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Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:26pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:23pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:20pm:
Aussie, why did you alter my quote?

This is what I posted which included the name of the thai official.  You deleted it then said the official was un named.

Are you a compulsive liar?

Two kids are out. They are currently at the field hospital near the cave," Tossathep Boonthong, chief of the health department in Chiang Rai in northern Thailand, told Reuters


You'll have to point it out, I can't see it.



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I can't find a story that has any more that
4
out from within the last hour of latest news...  Undecided
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I can't find a story that has any more that
4
out from within the last hour of latest news...  Undecided



thats what I am getting as well....only 4....I seem to have been holding my breath forever.....not a lot of news coming out of there.....we can only pray the rain holds off.......

remember Diver?  how they would all have to stand back in silence while the water poured down.........excruciating  !!!!
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The Mechanic wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 8:10am:
Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:26pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:23pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:20pm:
Aussie, why did you alter my quote?

This is what I posted which included the name of the thai official.  You deleted it then said the official was un named.

Are you a compulsive liar?

Two kids are out. They are currently at the field hospital near the cave," Tossathep Boonthong, chief of the health department in Chiang Rai in northern Thailand, told Reuters


You'll have to point it out, I can't see it.



Wink



aussie would have had you banned by now... thats how he rolls...

who's Turdo btw?



why do you bother with someone like that?

someone who thinks a thread like this is a time to bellyache  against a media he dislikes... .. he wants all the attention instead of giving it too these boys.....

lets all focus on aussie    Cheesy Angry Angry Angry

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I heard one report that 6 boys had been moved.

Four made it all the way out, and two were at the half-way point.

Only heard it once, and it was about 5:30 this morning.

Can't remember what "news" service it was.

It might have been a mistake, or they might be keeping something from us.

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Rueters reports at least 6 boys have left the cave

they at first said  6 then revised it down to 4- so 4 out safely and a navy seal diver lost his life as well-
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the Navy Seal died before the rescue started agnes...his air supply  failed...... maybe they have to take a break  as they need two divers for each child...and it takes 5 hours to reach the cave,.....a magnificent job they are doing....
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cods wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 9:46am:
the Navy Seal died before the rescue started agnes...his air supply  failed...... maybe they have to take a break  as they need two divers for each child...and it takes 5 hours to reach the cave,.....a magnificent job they are doing....

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They are coming out with all of the back stories now...

One of the boys and his 14 yo girlfriend had a couple of massive blues before he went into the caves..

She said it was too dangerous due to the monsoon 🌧 season ... 🤔
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They are coming out with all of the back stories now...

One of the boys and his 14 yo girlfriend had a couple of massive blues before he went into the caves..

She said it was too dangerous due to the monsoon 🌧 season ... 🤔


That coach should be charged with endangering the lives of others !
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Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 11:17am:
The Mechanic wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 11:04am:
They are coming out with all of the back stories now...

One of the boys and his 14 yo girlfriend had a couple of massive blues before he went into the caves..

She said it was too dangerous due to the monsoon 🌧 season ... 🤔


That coach should be charged with endangering the lives of others !

at the very least- but he is only young (( 25))- but that isn't an excuse for abandoning commonsense
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any more news???....please say there is some good news..
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cods wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:33pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:30pm:
How did they get stuck in the cave to a point where they could not get out? Did they do a visit, it started raining, and they could not go back?




where have you been????????

we will find out more when they are rescued......lets wait till then    get them out first..


Unsub hasn't heard any news as he's been stuck in a cave.


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everyone resting up atm- but here is an article on the 53 yr old aussie Doctor who joined the divers in the rescue-  very nice

https://au.news.yahoo.com/aussie-doctor-made-call-boys-leave-thai-cave-022953718...
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thats so cool   so brave.....the rescue will recommence soon  [our time.] .. they have to refill the bottles  and probably check every bit of gear.....its an amazing effort all round......

havent heard how the weather is....
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 7:30pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 6:37pm:
sarah hansen young says all men are rapists.
the childcare loons wish to ban little boys playing with toy guns or plastic swords.

"toxic masculinity" is what the left see.

and yet here we see the true "noble masculinity".

a thai seal already has "laid down his life".

and, it would appear every person going into the cave to do this noble work is of the masculine persuasion.

we can also look at these noble boys and their coach showing stoicism, courage and perseverence.

masculinity isnt about rape culture and destruction.

it is about bearing the burden without complaint.

i doubt these seals are in some seal union, whining about getting penalty rates for working overtime.

they are acting in a spirit of contribution and moving forward with nobility.

people like SHY and her millions of virtue signalling , bed wetting, white knights and associated man hating leftie intellectuals would do well to watch theses noble men going about their work.

hope theses brave men get these brave boys out.

life is harsh
nature is relentless.

move forward with nobility


No, she doesn't.



Yes she did.

She called men pigs & morons who should stop raping & murdering women.

She got taken to task for her misandry & then didn't like it ... eyeballed the person & got told to f*#k off.

So she should of been told .... she is an idiot.

All you do sticking up for her stupidity is put yourself in the same category.

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Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:12pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:08pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:54pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:49pm:
Agnes wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:36pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:31pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:26pm:
Confirmed by whom?  Where are the pics?  Why the rush?

Wait.


Pics or it didn't happen!?

not you too- ? dont follow aussie he has known to be wrong many times- they are receiving medical treatment and read that lnk- i have seen them in the 24 news footage- put the cans down and concentrate


I was questioning his "pics or it didn't happen" stance.


I know you were.

But this is typical of schmedia snake oil the gullible and willing swallow:

Quote:
chief of the health department in Chiang Rai in northern Thailand, told Reuters


An un-named person occupying a generalised 'chief' position somewhere 'told' Reuters.

In other words... hearsay and not confirmed.

Wait.


Seeing as the information is coming from the Thai govt it's safe to assume what they say is true. The world is watching, the world has sent help, I doubt they are fibbing. No need to wait, some are coming out.


Did you notice how aussie altered my quote, deleted the name of the Thai official then went on to say the official was un named?  Wonder why he did that?


There's someone else in here that has a propensity for that sort of behaviour.

Oink Oink ring a bell  Grin
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Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:20pm:
Aussie, why did you alter my quote?

This is what I posted which included the name of the thai official.  You deleted it then said the official was un named.

Are you a compulsive liar?

Two kids are out. They are currently at the field hospital near the cave," Tossathep Boonthong, chief of the health department in Chiang Rai in northern Thailand, told Reuters


You'll have to point it out, I can't see it.


I saw the alteration .. guilty as charged your honour.
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this is about 8 more kids and their coach stuck underground for more than two weeks..

can you people take your infighting elsewhere thank you...

we have heard it all before  and I for one am sick of it..

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Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:26pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:23pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:20pm:
Aussie, why did you alter my quote?

This is what I posted which included the name of the thai official.  You deleted it then said the official was un named.

Are you a compulsive liar?

Two kids are out. They are currently at the field hospital near the cave," Tossathep Boonthong, chief of the health department in Chiang Rai in northern Thailand, told Reuters


You'll have to point it out, I can't see it.



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this is about 8 more kids and their coach stuck underground for more than two weeks..

can you people take your infighting elsewhere thank you...

we have heard it all before  and I for one am sick of it..

relationships is a good place for it...


I'm well aware of the intent of this post .. & I didn't start the rot

& if he posts that bs here I will respond as I see fit.

Thanks for the reprimand Grandma.  Tongue
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Gnads wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:16pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 7:30pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 6:37pm:
sarah hansen young says all men are rapists.
the childcare loons wish to ban little boys playing with toy guns or plastic swords.

"toxic masculinity" is what the left see.

and yet here we see the true "noble masculinity".

a thai seal already has "laid down his life".

and, it would appear every person going into the cave to do this noble work is of the masculine persuasion.

we can also look at these noble boys and their coach showing stoicism, courage and perseverence.

masculinity isnt about rape culture and destruction.

it is about bearing the burden without complaint.

i doubt these seals are in some seal union, whining about getting penalty rates for working overtime.

they are acting in a spirit of contribution and moving forward with nobility.

people like SHY and her millions of virtue signalling , bed wetting, white knights and associated man hating leftie intellectuals would do well to watch theses noble men going about their work.

hope theses brave men get these brave boys out.

life is harsh
nature is relentless.

move forward with nobility


No, she doesn't.



Yes she did.

She called men pigs & morons who should stop raping & murdering women.

She got taken to task for her misandry & then didn't like it ... eyeballed the person & got told to f*#k off.

So she should of been told .... she is an idiot.

All you do sticking up for her stupidity is put yourself in the same category.

Pull you head out Peccar.



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Yep I was right ... you're the same type of individual.

And stop altering my posts.

You should be in line to get a holiday with Aussie.
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everyone resting up atm- but here is an article on the 53 yr old aussie Doctor who joined the divers in the rescue-  very nice

https://au.news.yahoo.com/aussie-doctor-made-call-boys-leave-thai-cave-022953718...

This is Dr Harris from  Adelaide SA- he has been included again in the 2nd round of rescue attempts today- they hope to have the rest of the boys out in 8 hours or tonight at least- so- hopefully tonight- the wait is slooow and frustrating - keep everything crossed- so proud of the efforts of all Aussies involved


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any more news???....please say there is some good news..

  Yes cods another one out- thats five now- most will come out tonight-
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yes... Groggy now has over 77,000 posts and he's still the same arsehole as he was in post Number one...

and still trashing thread after thread after thread...

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The Mechanic wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 8:40pm:
yes... Groggy now has over 77,000 posts and he's still the same arsehole as he was in post Number one...

and still trashing thread after thread after thread...

what kind of sick bastard does that???

why do the admins tolerate it???

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cods wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 12:40pm:
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  Yes cods another one out- thats five now- most will come out tonight-



Even after getting out they're still not safe -
there are deadly diseases in the caves that
can get into their lungs & kill them.

They might need special antibiotics.
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as long as they get out- the Drs can sort out the rest
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Bobby wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 8:59pm:
Agnes wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 8:30pm:
cods wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 12:40pm:
any more news???....please say there is some good news..

  Yes cods another one out- thats five now- most will come out tonight-



Even after getting out they're still not safe -
there are deadly diseases in the caves that
can get into their lungs & kill them.

They might need special antibiotics.


I hate caves. Yuck.
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Agnes wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 9:07pm:
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But they would have breathed in bat droppings that can contain many deadly diseases.
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Agnes wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 9:07pm:
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But they would have breathed in bat droppings that can contain many deadly diseases.


That's terrible! They should have left them in there!
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Total 8 rescued to date
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as long as they get out- the Drs can sort out the rest



But they would have breathed in bat droppings that can contain many deadly diseases.


That's terrible! They should have left them in there!



That's why they are being held in isolation.
Maybe they could have infectious diseases including a deadly virus.
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But they would have breathed in bat droppings that can contain many deadly diseases.


That's terrible! They should have left them in there!


If the schmedia hadn't reported it the volunteer divers would never have responded and they'd still be there today.

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Bobby wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 11:10pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 9:44pm:
Bobby wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 9:11pm:
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But they would have breathed in bat droppings that can contain many deadly diseases.


That's terrible! They should have left them in there!



That's why they are being held in isolation.
Maybe they could have infectious diseases including a deadly virus.






https://edition.cnn.com/2018/07/08/health/thai-soccer-team-health-impact/index.h...


The hospital also issued a statement, saying the "next step is to make sure those kids and their families are safe because living in a cave has a different environment, which might contain animals that could transmit any disease."
"Anyone that has had contact with the boys, including their close family, will be closely monitored to make sure they are disease free," the hospital said. "They have been informed to call the disease control hot line ... if they have symptoms such as headaches, nausea, muscle plain, or difficulties breathing."
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a wonderful story of "hero mythology".
this is why it taps into something deep in our pysche.

now watch the post modern intellectuals

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2  have a small army of psychologists ready to make the boys feel 'weak and vulnerable", when they should be paraded before the adoring masses and given medals to make them feel "strong and powerful"
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aquascoot wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 7:33am:
a wonderful story of "hero mythology".
this is why it taps into something deep in our pysche.

now watch the post modern intellectuals

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2  have a small army of psychologists ready to make the boys feel 'weak and vulnerable", when they should be paraded before the adoring masses and given medals to make them feel "strong and powerful"


whats happened has happened.. let it be a warning to others..

Celebrate the successes and move on..

did the diving team have to have a 50% Female ratio in the group with people employed to make sure they get equal pay?  Undecided

was there even one female volunteer that helped in the rescue apart from the ones sending truckloads of thoughts and prayers?
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yes thank you spot   its very enlightening...

shows me how brave those little boys are.....no way could I do that....to think they cant swim  are weak as hell....... all credit to those divers...I am in awe!!!

I watched the diver and Bullimore rescues  on the edge of my seat......this is up  there..

I think I even saw sunlight yesterday... may the gods keep smiling..
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aquascoot wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 7:33am:
a wonderful story of "hero mythology".
this is why it taps into something deep in our pysche.

now watch the post modern intellectuals

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2  have a small army of psychologists ready to make the boys feel 'weak and vulnerable", when they should be paraded before the adoring masses and given medals to make them feel "strong and powerful"



I trust with all my heart you are so wrong..

we dont need people like that at a time like this.

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aquascoot wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 7:33am:
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now watch the post modern intellectuals

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First thing you have ever posted that I agree with. 

Reading this Thread has been a bit of a revelation.  It seems some people reckon that we all do not have access to the same schmedia reports they do, and there is a race to be the first to post about it here, even using the 'breaking' introduction.

For some, their posts suggest there is some sort of vicarious voyerurism involved.

Is this about observers getting some sort of personal vindication/gratification/justification by coat tailing on the lives and efforts of others?

I still have not got a good grip on what they are doing to make themselves the best most worthy clappers.

It might well be me. I have never been into heroes.....people who simply do their job, or something they love doing for their own satisfaction.

Is this truly 'trauma porn,' and we all are supposed to get off because the 7th Cavalry arrives to do its job?

It's as though they cannot wait to either beat their breasts if there is a death, or to claim personal ownership of any success.

There is something to this, beyond 'trauma porn,' or 'train wreck' gawking. There are people who make this very personal to them, when in fact....nothing they say or do will have any impact whatsoever on success or otherwise, yet they rabbit on desperately wanting some recognition for their personal cheerleading and emotional outpouring.

I do not get it. Might be just a quirk in me, but is how I see it.

I, just like everyone, hope it all turns out well for those trapped and those who are rescuing. That's it. End of emotional commitment.

Some bugger has died.....and he is now not now even mentioned.

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How imagery and media coverage influence our empathy for strangers

Footage of 12 boys trapped in a cave system in Thailand has inundated our screens in recent days.

An international rescue effort is under way, which includes a team of specialists sent by the Australian government to assist with the safe recovery of the young soccer team. Highlighting the gravity of the situation, a former Thai Navy diver has died after running out of oxygen during rescue efforts.

This is without doubt a frightening situation for the boys and their families. It’s no surprise the situation has received global media attention. Though it does raise some interesting questions about how we extend empathy and concern to people we don’t know.

Why does this tragedy capture the world’s attention, when more long-term issues such as children in detention don’t to the same extent? Research from moral psychology can help us to understand this.

A picture is worth a thousand words

A key reason is simply that we can see the Thai soccer team. We’re watching the rescue effort play out, and we can see the emotions of the boys and their families.

We have seen this kind of viral, blanket coverage of tragic incidents recently. For example, the horrific scenes of children fighting for their lives after the 2017 chemical weapon attacks in Syria. Or the striking image that emerged in June of a small Honduran girl crying as her mother is detained by officials at the US-Mexico border.

By contrast, issues that are arguably no less frightening don’t always generate the same outpouring of concern and sympathy. For example, the more than 200 children held in detention on Nauru and throughout the Australian mainland.

This isn’t to suggest the Australian government shouldn’t aid in international rescue efforts, but we should be equally concerned about the far greater number of children being held indefinitely in Australian detention.

The fact is we have very little access to images of children in detention, as media access to Manus Island and Nauru is heavily restricted. For example, journalists face substantial obstacles if they want to visit our offshore detention centres, and in 2016 the Australian government threatened health-care workers with jail time if they spoke about the conditions they encountered on Nauru and Manus.

We simply aren’t permitted to view the plight of child refugees, and we’re much less likely to experience an empathic response if we can’t see them.

The recent outcry caused by the dramatic footage aboard an Australian live export ship illustrates this perfectly. Most of us would be aware to some extent live export is a cruel practice. But it isn’t until the footage forces us to confront the realities that we create enough momentum to discuss meaningful change.

Time and perspective matters

The perspective we take also makes a huge difference. If we can easily draw comparisons between ourselves and those in need we’re more likely to extend concern and empathy.

Given Australia’s geography and climate, it’s not too difficult for us to imagine our children caught up in a natural disaster. It’s much more difficult for us to imagine our children fleeing their homeland and seeking asylum in a foreign country.

And it’s far easier to extend sympathy to a situation that, one way or another, will reach an end.

Ongoing humanitarian issues such as asylum seekers or food shortages on the African continent feel like immense challenges often placed in the too hard basket. Therefore, these issues fade away in the face of what we consider more pressing matters with more straightforward resolutions.

Language is crucial

The labels we attach are also crucial in determining our response.

For example, in 2016, then prime minister, Tony Abbott referred to asylum seekers as an invading force.

This sort of language is incredibly damaging, because when trying to make sense of a moral injustice we immediately look to identify both a victim and a villain. Suffering without a villain doesn’t always make sense to us – though the villains we choose are often subjective.

There is some fascinating research demonstrating this. For example, throughout the US, belief in God is highest in states where citizens experience the greatest amount of suffering – infant mortality, cancer deaths, natural disasters. This relationship holds after controlling for a range of alternative explanations, such as income and education. God is perceived to be the “villain” responsible for all this senseless suffering.

It’s impossible to label those suffering at the hands of a chemical attack as anything but victims. However, if we perceive asylum seekers as wrongdoers trying to steal some sort of unfair advantage, we’re far less likely to think of them as victims requiring our compassion, meaning it’s far easier to cast them out of our moral circle.

Do we have a moral responsibility to think differently?

Of course we should have sympathy for the soccer team trapped in the cave. But no matter the outcome, the story will disappear from our screens as the next pressing crisis arises.

We should ensure the reality of longer-term problems doesn’t also disappear, having fallen victim to the failings of our moral cognition.

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ah, see gweg, thats where the left and myself differ.

i see these boys as heroic figures.
its not really about compassion , so much as pride in what humans can endure.'its an inspirational story.

the leftist media (and i presume" the conversation " is part of the leftist ABC) see this story not as one of inspiration and heroic endeavour. they see it more as one of compassion and hand wringing.

and then they ask (quite wrongly in my mind), why australians arent as gripped by the stories of the kids in detention on Naru.

because thats a sad weepie sooky butt hurt cry baby story and these boys are a strong inspirational brave courageous story.

they are totally different and the fact that one draws in the world and one does not is evidence that we NEED inspirational heroic stories to make us brave enough to "move forward".
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aquascoot wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:48am:
ah, see gweg, thats where the left and myself differ.

i see these boys as heroic figures.
its not really about compassion , so much as pride in what humans can endure.'its an inspirational story.

the leftist media (and i presume" the conversation " is part of the leftist ABC) see this story not as one of inspiration and heroic endeavour. they see it more as one of compassion and hand wringing.

and then they ask (quite wrongly in my mind), why australians arent as gripped by the stories of the kids in detention on Naru.

because thats a sad weepie sooky butt hurt cry baby story and these boys are a strong inspirational brave courageous story.

they are totally different and the fact that one draws in the world and one does not is evidence that we NEED inspirational heroic stories to make us brave enough to "move forward".


Also the kids and their parents can leave Naru anytime they like.


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Well I am not the only person who thinks it is all too beautiful, like Itchycoo Park.

Those haters that harp on about how many thousands and thousands of starving kids could have been saved with a fraction of the money that has been spent on this story are stupid.
Everybody knows that it means NOTHING to just care for people in extremis.
It means everything to be SEEN caring.
If those other kids are too stupid to starve without TV coverage, well firk them, they're just third rate losers. Well, third world corpses by now.

But forget that, on to more important things,  THE MOVIE!!!!, and WHO???? is going to play the lead diver whp dies, and WHO??? plays his heart broken wife? Brad and Jen??? (it could lead to a reunion, GOLD) It is gonna be
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aquascoot wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:48am:
ah, see gweg, thats where the left and myself differ.

i see these boys as heroic figures.
its not really about compassion , so much as pride in what humans can endure.'its an inspirational story.

the leftist media (and i presume" the conversation " is part of the leftist ABC) see this story not as one of inspiration and heroic endeavour. they see it more as one of compassion and hand wringing.

and then they ask (quite wrongly in my mind), why australians arent as gripped by the stories of the kids in detention on Naru.

because thats a sad weepie sooky butt hurt cry baby story and these boys are a strong inspirational brave courageous story.

they are totally different and the fact that one draws in the world and one does not is evidence that we NEED inspirational heroic stories to make us brave enough to "move forward".


What do you think of the "inspirational heroes" fighting without a spotlight for the safety and welfare of children in detention?


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Reply #210 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 11:16am
 
Aussie wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:09am:
aquascoot wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 7:33am:
a wonderful story of "hero mythology".
this is why it taps into something deep in our pysche.

now watch the post modern intellectuals

1  call for the coach to be charged
2  have a small army of psychologists ready to make the boys feel 'weak and vulnerable", when they should be paraded before the adoring masses and given medals to make them feel "strong and powerful"


First thing you have ever posted that I agree with. 

Reading this Thread has been a bit of a revelation.  It seems some people reckon that we all do not have access to the same schmedia reports they do, and there is a race to be the first to post about it here, even using the 'breaking' introduction.

For some, their posts suggest there is some sort of vicarious voyerurism involved.

Is this about observers getting some sort of personal vindication/gratification/justification by coat tailing on the lives and efforts of others?

I still have not got a good grip on what they are doing to make themselves the best most worthy clappers.

It might well be me. I have never been into heroes.....people who simply do their job, or something they love doing for their own satisfaction.

Is this truly 'trauma porn,' and we all are supposed to get off because the 7th Cavalry arrives to do its job?

It's as though they cannot wait to either beat their breasts if there is a death, or to claim personal ownership of any success.

There is something to this, beyond 'trauma porn,' or 'train wreck' gawking. There are people who make this very personal to them, when in fact....nothing they say or do will have any impact whatsoever on success or otherwise, yet they rabbit on desperately wanting some recognition for their personal cheerleading and emotional outpouring.

I do not get it. Might be just a quirk in me, but is how I see it.

I, just like everyone, hope it all turns out well for those trapped and those who are rescuing. That's it. End of emotional commitment.

Some bugger has died.....and he is now not now even mentioned.



I have been reminded of another possible aspect of this.  Is it true that some people are only able to get behind something that has an immediate resolution? The backing of safe horses, as it were?
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Reply #211 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 12:54pm
 
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ah, see gweg, thats where the left and myself differ.

i see these boys as heroic figures.
its not really about compassion , so much as pride in what humans can endure.'its an inspirational story.

the leftist media (and i presume" the conversation " is part of the leftist ABC) see this story not as one of inspiration and heroic endeavour. they see it more as one of compassion and hand wringing.

and then they ask (quite wrongly in my mind), why australians arent as gripped by the stories of the kids in detention on Naru.

because thats a sad weepie sooky butt hurt cry baby story and these boys are a strong inspirational brave courageous story.

they are totally different and the fact that one draws in the world and one does not is evidence that we NEED inspirational heroic stories to make us brave enough to "move forward".


Also the kids and their parents can leave Naru anytime they like.




Naru?  Nauru.

Where will they go if they leave?

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Reply #212 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 12:58pm
 
Where can they go if they were allowed off.  How do they get there, assuming there is a place they can go to?
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Reply #213 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 1:09pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 12:58pm:
Where can they go if they were allowed off.  How do they get there, assuming there is a place they can go to?


I think Gordon is just gathering the information now.

Gordon?

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Reply #215 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 1:41pm
 
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Let me get this straight: you're suggesting that asylum seekers go home?

Just out of curiosity, do you know what an asylum seeker is?

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Okay, why is Julie Bishop giving interviews regarding the boys in the cave?

WTF does it have to do with her?    Undecided
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Reply #217 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:06pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:03pm:
Okay, why is Julie Bishop giving interviews regarding the boys in the cave?

WTF does it have to do with her?    Undecided

everytime I see her face- it makes me sick- was wondering the same-  grr cant stand her
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Reply #218 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:09pm
 
Agnes wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:06pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:03pm:
Okay, why is Julie Bishop giving interviews regarding the boys in the cave?

WTF does it have to do with her?    Undecided

everytime I see her face- it makes me sick- was wondering the same-  grr cant stand her


I thought I was hearing things yesterday when I heard her voice on the "news" discussing the boys (I was making dinner, and wasn't actually watching the TV).

However, I just looked now and there she is again, talking about the boys' rescue.

WTF does this have to do with Julie smacking Bishop?   Angry
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yes I agree- 








TEN boys out now
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Reply #220 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:13pm
 
Agnes wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:10pm:
yes I agree-  TEN boys out now


Yep, just two to go, and the coach - great news!

I'm really scratching my head here, though, trying to figure out how Julie Bishop got involved in this.


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11 out.

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greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:20pm:
11 out.



It will be nicely symbolic if the last man out is the Coach.
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Reply #223 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:29pm
 
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11 out.


Yes saw that - -
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Reply #224 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:33pm
 
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11 out.


Yes saw that - -


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greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:20pm:
11 out.



It will be nicely symbolic if the last man out is the Coach.


The doctor will be the last one out.

It would be nice if they could put Julie Bishop in there, in his place.

Seriously - why is she giving interviews about this on TV?

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Reply #226 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:44pm
 
Just turn it off greg. Best thing to do.

I have not followed this anywhere except here.
Great story but I get my info from this thread. I hate all the media crap in these situations. People coming out of the woodwork to "add their 2 bob". People who are so far detached from the real world they have no idea what they're on about.
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Reply #227 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:47pm
 
Captain Caveman wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:44pm:
Just turn it off greg. Best thing to do.

I have not followed this anywhere except here.
Great story but I get my info from this thread. I hate all the media crap in these situations. People coming out of the woodwork to "add their 2 bob". People who are so far detached from the real world they have no idea what they're on about.


Agreed.

And I've done just that.

Bishop was the last straw for me.



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greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:39pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:29pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:20pm:
11 out.



It will be nicely symbolic if the last man out is the Coach.


The doctor will be the last one out.

It would be nice if they could put Julie Bishop in there, in his place.

Seriously - why is she giving interviews about this on TV?



I had that typed....and then decided....nah.  Captain is last man off the sinking ship.  That is what the Thais will go for.....not some grandstandiong for a Doctor who did what he loves doing and has been doing for 30 years.  I reckon even the Doctor would reject the idea as wrong.  He is no hero, and neither is the Coach.  Captain last off the ship, is my bet, especially given the Captain is Thai.

Hope so anyway.

We'll crucify him later.
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Thai cave rescue: 11th boy emerges, reports say boys were sedated...

Thai English-language news site Khaosod English is citing a source as saying that doctors administered anti-anxiety medication before the boys began their dive and that the reason why it is taking time for them to emerge from the cave is because they need to revive them fully.


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The Mechanic wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:59pm:
Thai cave rescue: 11th boy emerges, reports say boys were sedated...

would have  been terrifying ordeal for young boys so would have been needed-
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Aussie wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:50pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:39pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:29pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:20pm:
11 out.



It will be nicely symbolic if the last man out is the Coach.


The doctor will be the last one out.

It would be nice if they could put Julie Bishop in there, in his place.

Seriously - why is she giving interviews about this on TV?



I had that typed....and then decided....nah.  Captain is last man off the sinking ship.  That is what the Thais will go for.....not some grandstandiong for a Doctor who did what he loves doing and has been doing for 30 years.  I reckon even the Doctor would reject the idea as wrong.  He is no hero, and neither is the Coach.  Captain last off the ship, is my bet, especially given the Captain is Thai.

Hope so anyway.

We'll crucify him later.

  The doctor did an amazing job and 30 years experience or not and wether he loved diving for the last 30 years or not- he is now a hero and deservedly so- I am immensley proud of him
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Thai English-language news site Khaosod English is citing a source as saying that doctors administered anti-anxiety medication before the boys began their dive and that the reason why it is taking time for them to emerge from the cave is because they need to revive them fully.


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Yep.

I said from the beginning that drugs would be a good idea.

Someone else suggested it first, though - can't remember who.

I would have needed 4 Valium to get through that ordeal.

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The Mechanic wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:59pm:
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Thai cave rescue: 11th boy emerges, reports say boys were sedated...

Thai English-language news site Khaosod English is citing a source as saying that doctors administered anti-anxiety medication before the boys began their dive and that the reason why it is taking time for them to emerge from the cave is because they need to revive them fully.


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Should have just told a few Catholic priests if they get tjem out they can keep them. They'd all be out days ago.
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