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Jul 3rd, 2018 at 8:31pm
 
Nice to have a good news story for a change .

They'll be in there for a while longer but glad they've been found.
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Reply #1 - Jul 3rd, 2018 at 8:35pm
 
Did they see some aboriginal 'hand-work' on the walls.
That's where all Aboriginal men went to do some 'sacred' hand work.  Grin
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Reply #2 - Jul 3rd, 2018 at 9:04pm
 

An incredible story.

I'm glad they found them.

We'll see a movie within 18 months.
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More soccer teams should be left in caves
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Reply #4 - Jul 3rd, 2018 at 9:42pm
 
Gordon wrote on Jul 3rd, 2018 at 8:31pm:
Nice to have a good news story for a change .

They'll be in there for a while longer but glad they've been found.


Found alive!  The whole dirty dozen plus the idiot who got too excited to read the weather forecast, but Chiang Rai has other virtues. I am sure it was just human error manifested in some vulcanic warning sign regarding bipedal hubris ...

I have had the pleasure of writing some happy letters today, so that just proves to me that God is good.  Allah Akbah!
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Reply #5 - Jul 3rd, 2018 at 9:55pm
 
Ee-gad, a bunch of 13 year old boys stuck down a deep dark cave. I wonder what they were doing down there.

Bobby?
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Reply #6 - Jul 3rd, 2018 at 9:57pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 3rd, 2018 at 9:55pm:
Ee-gad, a bunch of 13 year old boys stuck down a deep dark cave. I wonder what they were doing down there.

Bobby?

No SBS.  Their ages ranged from 11 to 16 and there were twelve of them plus one authority.

What the fruck is wrong with you, Karnal?  Are you deaf or blind?

Or just stupid?
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Reply #7 - Jul 3rd, 2018 at 10:09pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 3rd, 2018 at 9:55pm:
Ee-gad, a bunch of 13 year old boys stuck down a deep dark cave. I wonder what they were doing down there.

Bobby?


I bet you had a few thais in your cave last time you where over there.
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Gordon wrote on Jul 3rd, 2018 at 10:09pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 3rd, 2018 at 9:55pm:
Ee-gad, a bunch of 13 year old boys stuck down a deep dark cave. I wonder what they were doing down there.

Bobby?


I bet you had a few thais in your cave last time you where over there.

RSI bothering you, is it Gordy.  You know that if you have a good imagination, you can use the other wrist and find happiness again.  Think of Vietnamese girls if you must, because they know how to cure your sore wrists in your imagination if you only open your cursed mind!
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Reply #9 - Jul 3rd, 2018 at 11:19pm
 
I have wondered why anyone would be able to get lost going into a cave to the point that simply turning around and going back would be the right thing to do. But then, at age 13, I did get a bit lost in the orientation of my new high school.
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Reply #10 - Jul 4th, 2018 at 12:10am
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 3rd, 2018 at 9:55pm:
Ee-gad, a bunch of 13 year old boys stuck down a deep dark cave. I wonder what they were doing down there.

Bobby?



The person who led them there at a time of possible heavy rain is an idiot.
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https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/world/thailand-cave-rescue-reports-divers...

NEW footage released by the Royal Thai Navy has revealed the state of the cave-tapped Thai soccer team and their coach.

The teenagers appeared to be in good spirits in the video captured yesterday, which showed the 12 boys wrapped in blankets talking to Thai Navy SEAL divers.

“After eating, they have more energy,” the Navy wrote as the caption.
Two doctors have volunteered to stay with the boys as rescuers fret about volatile weather conditions.

Heavy rainfall could add to the flooding in the Thamg Luang cave network, according to the New Zealand Herald. It means the boys, who can’t swim, might be stuck there until monsoon seasons ends in October.

But in what is being described as a “huge sacrifice”, two of Thailand’s navy doctors have agreed to stay with the young boys and their coach for as long as it takes to free them.

It is understood rescue teams have been pumping 10,000 litres of water out of the caves every hour, but there are concerns more rain could threaten the air pocket where the team has taken refuge

Top Thai Navy officer Commander Rear Adm. Arpakorn Yookongkaew said there was “no need to hurry”, and the soccer team would be brought out when they were physically and mentally ready, the Bangkok Post reported.

“It may be four months, one month or one week. There’s no need to hurry,” he said.

“The first plan is to reduce the water level and get them out but if we can’t, we will have a backup plan.

“Anyone who is ready first will be brought out. They will be brought out gradually,” he added. Safety is the priority.”

But the weather forecast alarmed others, according to the Bangkok Post, including Thailand’s Interior Minister Anupong Paojinda, who said the mission was a race against time.

“As rain is forecast in the next few days, the evacuation must be sped up. Diving gear will be used. If the water rises, the task will be difficult. We must bring the kids out before then,” Gen Anupong said.

The water and food-starved soccer team have had four days of worth of food supplies delivered to them, according to the Bankgok Post, as well as rejuvenating mineral salts and 70 oxygen tanks.

And after having no contact with the outside world for 10 days, the young boys are now able to contact their parents after phone cables were brought into the area.



when I heard they had found the boys... I thought "yippee"   that was it...

but apparently not.....this will be another mighty rescue for the record books....I pray it all ends well..
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Indeed....amazing.

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oh trust you... I will ask a gmod to move it for YOU..
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please Mr gmod   would you move this thread to the link  Mr Winger has put up.....

as you can see he is not in the least bit interested in the subject  matter.....he just cant stand the thought of more than one thread about the same topic...

NOW    if it was about a sewer  that he delights in talking about..... I am sure he would in fact say the more threads the merrier... Smiley Smiley

thankyou  Mr Gmod..
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This really is an amazing story.

Hollywood is sure to make a movie out of it.

These boys will be men when they come out (in terms of maturity).

Something I do wonder about though, is what are they doing about toilets?

It must be getting a bit smelly down there    Sad

Sure, they can have a wee in the water, but ...
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Reply #16 - Jul 4th, 2018 at 9:12pm
 
The last 5 Posts were moved here from General Board by Setanta.
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Reply #17 - Jul 4th, 2018 at 9:21pm
 
They are swimming them out of there tomorrow come hell or high water.
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Reply #18 - Jul 5th, 2018 at 9:10am
 
Easy as pie - team of divers and spare tanks... kids'll all be celebs on Survivor - Deep Underground... and there'll be a movie...

The last 5 Posts were moved here from General Board by Setanta.

That quietened the joint down somewhat... sometimes, monsieur, il faut faire un demonstration!
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Reply #19 - Jul 5th, 2018 at 11:21am
 
Today's news - the kids have heard dogs barking. There may be another way out.
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Its Lassie.
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rhino wrote on Jul 5th, 2018 at 11:42am:
Its Lassie.


It's dinner.

Seriously though, they can hear dogs, children playing, and a rooster.

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It will be the first F##king soccer ever team that ever needed diver training
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Reply #23 - Jul 5th, 2018 at 6:28pm
 
they cant swim  any of them....so getting them out with scuba gear wont be that simple....there is quite a long way underwater... scary stuff for 12 yr olds...

looking at their brave smiles  is just amazing well done boys   you will be heros when you surface on the other side...their coach must be some guy as well.....very brave.
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Reply #24 - Jul 5th, 2018 at 8:48pm
 
What about goggles and a garden hose?

It was good enough for Pearl Fishers.
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Reply #25 - Jul 5th, 2018 at 9:18pm
 
mozzaok wrote on Jul 5th, 2018 at 8:48pm:
What about goggles and a garden hose?

It was good enough for Pearl Fishers.


Is that some sort of reference to ice users?  Makes no sense to me.  Anyone else?
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Reply #26 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 7:10am
 
It's not over by a long chalk ......

there are narrow openings that require the divers to remove their scuba tanks to get through .....

it's pitch black and there is no visibility in the muddy water.....

and the forecast is for more rain ....

it's their monsoon season ......

yesterday it said the next 24 hrs would determine if they would survive or not.

The adult who took them in there must be mentally deficient.
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Reply #27 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 7:18am
 
No need to broadcast your retardation fekwit, your lack of intellectual ability is perfectly well established.
Now fek off imbo.
Think of it like life, all the bits too tricky for you to comprehend, put down to gosh darned confounded anti "Clive-ians", trying to lay word mines to challenge your adversarial mind, such as it is.(I am so kind I put in a hyphen, so even he should work it out. It is difficult when you are stuck with a 1978 Gregorys, in a GPS World.)This'll be twice, now fek off.
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mozzaok wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 7:18am:
No need to broadcast your retardation fekwit, your lack of intellectual ability is perfectly well established.
Now fek off imbo.
Think of it like life, all the bits too tricky for you to comprehend, put down to gosh darned confounded anti "Clive-ians", trying to lay word mines to challenge your adversarial mind, such as it is.(I am so kind I put in a hyphen, so even he should work it out. It is difficult when you are stuck with a 1978 Gregorys, in a GPS World.)This'll be twice, now fek off.


You directing that at me?  Angry
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Reply #29 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 7:35am
 
Gnads wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 7:25am:
mozzaok wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 7:18am:
No need to broadcast your retardation fekwit, your lack of intellectual ability is perfectly well established.
Now fek off imbo.
Think of it like life, all the bits too tricky for you to comprehend, put down to gosh darned confounded anti "Clive-ians", trying to lay word mines to challenge your adversarial mind, such as it is.(I am so kind I put in a hyphen, so even he should work it out. It is difficult when you are stuck with a 1978 Gregorys, in a GPS World.)This'll be twice, now fek off.


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gnads, whilst your post was a tad insensitive it was probably correct.
this could end in a total catastrophe .
i have done a bit of diving and my first dive scared the crap out of me and i am a good swimmer and it was clear water and sunny.
i would think you would be better off intubating and anesthetising these kids and then bringing them out in an unconscious state. god only know how you can do that.

and water is incredibly powerful stuff.
if it rains and they get big currents, no one will be going back in there for a long time.

all in all, this is a disastrous situation
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Gnads wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 7:25am:
mozzaok wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 7:18am:
No need to broadcast your retardation fekwit, your lack of intellectual ability is perfectly well established.
Now fek off imbo.
Think of it like life, all the bits too tricky for you to comprehend, put down to gosh darned confounded anti "Clive-ians", trying to lay word mines to challenge your adversarial mind, such as it is.(I am so kind I put in a hyphen, so even he should work it out. It is difficult when you are stuck with a 1978 Gregorys, in a GPS World.)This'll be twice, now fek off.


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LMAO, NO, I was not. Sorry Gnads, I went and bunged on a pot of coffee, after I hit reply, but before I actually wrote the post.
It was directed at the retarded self proclaimed expander, of tropical briefs, that giant dick of the legal eagles, Aussie.
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mozzaok wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 7:49am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 7:25am:
mozzaok wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 7:18am:
No need to broadcast your retardation fekwit, your lack of intellectual ability is perfectly well established.
Now fek off imbo.
Think of it like life, all the bits too tricky for you to comprehend, put down to gosh darned confounded anti "Clive-ians", trying to lay word mines to challenge your adversarial mind, such as it is.(I am so kind I put in a hyphen, so even he should work it out. It is difficult when you are stuck with a 1978 Gregorys, in a GPS World.)This'll be twice, now fek off.


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LMAO, NO, I was not. Sorry Gnads, I went and bunged on a pot of coffee, after I hit reply, but before I actually wrote the post.
It was directed at the retarded self proclaimed expander, of tropical briefs, that giant dick of the legal eagles, Aussie.


Despite your many personality flaws mozzaok, you are often spot on.

Ever wonder why so many SE Asians die in floods? Answer: They can't swim. These Thai boys are the perfect example.
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aquascoot wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 7:35am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 7:25am:
mozzaok wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 7:18am:
No need to broadcast your retardation fekwit, your lack of intellectual ability is perfectly well established.
Now fek off imbo.
Think of it like life, all the bits too tricky for you to comprehend, put down to gosh darned confounded anti "Clive-ians", trying to lay word mines to challenge your adversarial mind, such as it is.(I am so kind I put in a hyphen, so even he should work it out. It is difficult when you are stuck with a 1978 Gregorys, in a GPS World.)This'll be twice, now fek off.


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gnads, whilst your post was a tad insensitive it was probably correct.
this could end in a total catastrophe .
i have done a bit of diving and my first dive scared the crap out of me and i am a good swimmer and it was clear water and sunny.
i would think you would be better off intubating and anesthetising these kids and then bringing them out in an unconscious state. god only know how you can do that.

and water is incredibly powerful stuff.
if it rains and they get big currents, no one will be going back in there for a long time.

all in all, this is a disastrous situation



totally agree   these boys were almost starved for 10 days...god love them  they are so brave......we have watched so many miraculous rescues   who will ever forget Stuart Diver or Bullimore....never ever give up..

so much credit must go to the rescuers as well.....

lets hope the man making the decisions  makes the right one..
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Bad news.

One of the rescuers has died.

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"Thai authorities say a Navy SEAL working to rescue the boys and their soccer coach trapped in a cave has died from lack of oxygen."

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mozzaok wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 7:49am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 7:25am:
mozzaok wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 7:18am:
No need to broadcast your retardation fekwit, your lack of intellectual ability is perfectly well established.
Now fek off imbo.
Think of it like life, all the bits too tricky for you to comprehend, put down to gosh darned confounded anti "Clive-ians", trying to lay word mines to challenge your adversarial mind, such as it is.(I am so kind I put in a hyphen, so even he should work it out. It is difficult when you are stuck with a 1978 Gregorys, in a GPS World.)This'll be twice, now fek off.


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LMAO, NO, I was not. Sorry Gnads, I went and bunged on a pot of coffee, after I hit reply, but before I actually wrote the post.
It was directed at the retarded self proclaimed expander, of tropical briefs, that giant dick of the legal eagles, Aussie.


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greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 1:38pm:
"Thai authorities say a Navy SEAL working to rescue the boys and their soccer coach trapped in a cave has died from lack of oxygen."

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Yes read that this afternoon.

Makes you wonder about the boys chances when one of the experts dies.
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Gnads wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 8:43pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 1:38pm:
"Thai authorities say a Navy SEAL working to rescue the boys and their soccer coach trapped in a cave has died from lack of oxygen."

Cry


Yes read that this afternoon.

Makes you wonder about the boys chances when one of the experts dies.


Yeah.

I'm really worried for them.

I wish they could drill down and lift them up through a chimney.

The diving option just doesn't sound good.

Someone mentioned drugging them, and then dragging them out.

That might not be such a bad idea.

If they start to panic when going under water - and wouldn't we all - things could go south real quick.

Fingers crossed they all get out safe.
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They were going on about how many million litres of water they have pumped.

It did not sound like that much water to me.

Bigger pumps I say.
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miketrees wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:10pm:
They were going on about how many million litres of water they have pumped.

It did not sound like that much water to me.

Bigger pumps I say.


For a while there, they were actually pumping the water back into the caves.

It was an honest mistake, but it set them back quite a bit.

I don't think they have enough resources.

Has the US sent anyone in?

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Reply #40 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:13pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:02pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 8:43pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 1:38pm:
"Thai authorities say a Navy SEAL working to rescue the boys and their soccer coach trapped in a cave has died from lack of oxygen."

Cry


Yes read that this afternoon.

Makes you wonder about the boys chances when one of the experts dies.


Yeah.

I'm really worried for them.

I wish they could drill down and lift them up through a chimney.

The diving option just doesn't sound good.

Someone mentioned drugging them, and then dragging them out.

That might not be such a bad idea.

If they start to panic when going under water - and wouldn't we all - things could go south real quick.

Fingers crossed they all get out safe.


I'm thinking full face masks so voice intercom can be used, plus a low dose of valium.


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Gordon wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:13pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:02pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 8:43pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 1:38pm:
"Thai authorities say a Navy SEAL working to rescue the boys and their soccer coach trapped in a cave has died from lack of oxygen."

Cry


Yes read that this afternoon.

Makes you wonder about the boys chances when one of the experts dies.


Yeah.

I'm really worried for them.

I wish they could drill down and lift them up through a chimney.

The diving option just doesn't sound good.

Someone mentioned drugging them, and then dragging them out.

That might not be such a bad idea.

If they start to panic when going under water - and wouldn't we all - things could go south real quick.

Fingers crossed they all get out safe.


I'm thinking full face masks so voice intercom can be used, plus a low dose of valium.




Yep.

I think drugs need to play a part.

If it was me, I'd be freaking out.

I can't imagine what it would be like for a kid who can't even swim.


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Reply #42 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:39pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:18pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:13pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:02pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 8:43pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 1:38pm:
"Thai authorities say a Navy SEAL working to rescue the boys and their soccer coach trapped in a cave has died from lack of oxygen."

Cry


Yes read that this afternoon.

Makes you wonder about the boys chances when one of the experts dies.


Yeah.

I'm really worried for them.

I wish they could drill down and lift them up through a chimney.

The diving option just doesn't sound good.

Someone mentioned drugging them, and then dragging them out.

That might not be such a bad idea.

If they start to panic when going under water - and wouldn't we all - things could go south real quick.

Fingers crossed they all get out safe.


I'm thinking full face masks so voice intercom can be used, plus a low dose of valium.




Yep.

I think drugs need to play a part.

If it was me, I'd be freaking out.

I can't imagine what it would be like for a kid who can't even swim.




If they could be in there until November, there's plenty of time to teach them not to fear the water. Bring them out as they accomplish what is needed.

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Reply #43 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:44pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:39pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:18pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:13pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:02pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 8:43pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 1:38pm:
"Thai authorities say a Navy SEAL working to rescue the boys and their soccer coach trapped in a cave has died from lack of oxygen."

Cry


Yes read that this afternoon.

Makes you wonder about the boys chances when one of the experts dies.


Yeah.

I'm really worried for them.

I wish they could drill down and lift them up through a chimney.

The diving option just doesn't sound good.

Someone mentioned drugging them, and then dragging them out.

That might not be such a bad idea.

If they start to panic when going under water - and wouldn't we all - things could go south real quick.

Fingers crossed they all get out safe.


I'm thinking full face masks so voice intercom can be used, plus a low dose of valium.




Yep.

I think drugs need to play a part.

If it was me, I'd be freaking out.

I can't imagine what it would be like for a kid who can't even swim.




If they could be in there until November, there's plenty of time to teach them not to fear the water. Bring them out as they accomplish what is needed.



Can the chamber they're in become totally submerged?


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Reply #44 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:47pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:18pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:13pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:02pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 8:43pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 1:38pm:
"Thai authorities say a Navy SEAL working to rescue the boys and their soccer coach trapped in a cave has died from lack of oxygen."

Cry


Yes read that this afternoon.

Makes you wonder about the boys chances when one of the experts dies.


Yeah.

I'm really worried for them.

I wish they could drill down and lift them up through a chimney.

The diving option just doesn't sound good.

Someone mentioned drugging them, and then dragging them out.

That might not be such a bad idea.

If they start to panic when going under water - and wouldn't we all - things could go south real quick.

Fingers crossed they all get out safe.


I'm thinking full face masks so voice intercom can be used, plus a low dose of valium.




Yep.

I think drugs need to play a part.

If it was me, I'd be freaking out.

I can't imagine what it would be like for a kid who can't even swim.




Are they Muslims?
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Yes Setanta.....they can easily enough get air to where the boys are (flexible pipes going through the water etc to where they are holed up) and wait it out.

Or maybe said pipes can be large enough to escape/wriggle through......Great Escape like?

Nagging question in the back of my mind.......how did they get to where they are if they did not go through water?

Did the water only get there after they got to where they are?
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Reply #46 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:49pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:47pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:18pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:13pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:02pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 8:43pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 1:38pm:
"Thai authorities say a Navy SEAL working to rescue the boys and their soccer coach trapped in a cave has died from lack of oxygen."

Cry


Yes read that this afternoon.

Makes you wonder about the boys chances when one of the experts dies.


Yeah.

I'm really worried for them.

I wish they could drill down and lift them up through a chimney.

The diving option just doesn't sound good.

Someone mentioned drugging them, and then dragging them out.

That might not be such a bad idea.

If they start to panic when going under water - and wouldn't we all - things could go south real quick.

Fingers crossed they all get out safe.


I'm thinking full face masks so voice intercom can be used, plus a low dose of valium.




Yep.

I think drugs need to play a part.

If it was me, I'd be freaking out.

I can't imagine what it would be like for a kid who can't even swim.




Are they Muslims?


Not many muztards up north
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Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:48pm:
Yes Setanta.....they can easily enough get air to where the boys are (flexible pipes going through the water etc to where they are holed up) and wait it out.

Or maybe said pipes can be large enough to escape/wriggle through......Great Escape like?

Nagging question in the back of my mind.......how did they get to where they are if they did not go through water?

Did the water only get there after they got to where they are?


Yes, Aussie. It's the monsoon. There was a landslide.
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Reply #48 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:52pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:48pm:
Yes Setanta.....they can easily enough get air to where the boys are (flexible pipes going through the water etc to where they are holed up) and wait it out.

Or maybe said pipes can be large enough to escape/wriggle through......Great Escape like?

Nagging question in the back of my mind.......how did they get to where they are if they did not go through water?

Did the water only get there after they got to where they are?


Ever heard of something called rain,  flooding.

For you,  aussie


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Reply #49 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:58pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:50pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:48pm:
Yes Setanta.....they can easily enough get air to where the boys are (flexible pipes going through the water etc to where they are holed up) and wait it out.

Or maybe said pipes can be large enough to escape/wriggle through......Great Escape like?

Nagging question in the back of my mind.......how did they get to where they are if they did not go through water?

Did the water only get there after they got to where they are?


Yes, Aussie. It's the monsoon. There was a landslide.


A landslide......in a cave?
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Reply #50 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:02pm
 
Gordon wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:49pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:47pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:18pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:13pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:02pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 8:43pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 1:38pm:
"Thai authorities say a Navy SEAL working to rescue the boys and their soccer coach trapped in a cave has died from lack of oxygen."

Cry


Yes read that this afternoon.

Makes you wonder about the boys chances when one of the experts dies.


Yeah.

I'm really worried for them.

I wish they could drill down and lift them up through a chimney.

The diving option just doesn't sound good.

Someone mentioned drugging them, and then dragging them out.

That might not be such a bad idea.

If they start to panic when going under water - and wouldn't we all - things could go south real quick.

Fingers crossed they all get out safe.


I'm thinking full face masks so voice intercom can be used, plus a low dose of valium.




Yep.

I think drugs need to play a part.

If it was me, I'd be freaking out.

I can't imagine what it would be like for a kid who can't even swim.




Are they Muslims?


Not many muztards up north


They breed, they spread. Chiang Rai is full of the cockroaches. They sell rotis in the street if you please.

Imagine all this fuss for a few Muselman. More Rohingas get wiped out each hour.
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Reply #51 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:04pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:48pm:
Yes Setanta.....they can easily enough get air to where the boys are (flexible pipes going through the water etc to where they are holed up) and wait it out.

Or maybe said pipes can be large enough to escape/wriggle through......Great Escape like?

Nagging question in the back of my mind.......how did they get to where they are if they did not go through water?

Did the water only get there after they got to where they are?


Yes.
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Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:04pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:48pm:
Yes Setanta.....they can easily enough get air to where the boys are (flexible pipes going through the water etc to where they are holed up) and wait it out.

Or maybe said pipes can be large enough to escape/wriggle through......Great Escape like?

Nagging question in the back of my mind.......how did they get to where they are if they did not go through water?

Did the water only get there after they got to where they are?


Yes.


In just two weeks?
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Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:58pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:50pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:48pm:
Yes Setanta.....they can easily enough get air to where the boys are (flexible pipes going through the water etc to where they are holed up) and wait it out.

Or maybe said pipes can be large enough to escape/wriggle through......Great Escape like?

Nagging question in the back of my mind.......how did they get to where they are if they did not go through water?

Did the water only get there after they got to where they are?


Yes, Aussie. It's the monsoon. There was a landslide.


A landslide......in a cave?


But of course. The rain came down and wiped poor Incie out.

Gordon's trying to figure out a way to blame Islam, but we know who to blame.

I blame Allah, but that's just me.
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Reply #54 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:05pm
 
Gordon wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:44pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:39pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:18pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:13pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:02pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 8:43pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 1:38pm:
"Thai authorities say a Navy SEAL working to rescue the boys and their soccer coach trapped in a cave has died from lack of oxygen."

Cry


Yes read that this afternoon.

Makes you wonder about the boys chances when one of the experts dies.


Yeah.

I'm really worried for them.

I wish they could drill down and lift them up through a chimney.

The diving option just doesn't sound good.

Someone mentioned drugging them, and then dragging them out.

That might not be such a bad idea.

If they start to panic when going under water - and wouldn't we all - things could go south real quick.

Fingers crossed they all get out safe.


I'm thinking full face masks so voice intercom can be used, plus a low dose of valium.




Yep.

I think drugs need to play a part.

If it was me, I'd be freaking out.

I can't imagine what it would be like for a kid who can't even swim.




If they could be in there until November, there's plenty of time to teach them not to fear the water. Bring them out as they accomplish what is needed.



Can the chamber they're in become totally submerged?




No idea. Has that been put forward at a scenario if heavy rain continues?
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Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:04pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:04pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:48pm:
Yes Setanta.....they can easily enough get air to where the boys are (flexible pipes going through the water etc to where they are holed up) and wait it out.

Or maybe said pipes can be large enough to escape/wriggle through......Great Escape like?

Nagging question in the back of my mind.......how did they get to where they are if they did not go through water?

Did the water only get there after they got to where they are?


Yes.


In just two weeks?


In a few hours.
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Reply #56 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:08pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:04pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:04pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:48pm:
Yes Setanta.....they can easily enough get air to where the boys are (flexible pipes going through the water etc to where they are holed up) and wait it out.

Or maybe said pipes can be large enough to escape/wriggle through......Great Escape like?

Nagging question in the back of my mind.......how did they get to where they are if they did not go through water?

Did the water only get there after they got to where they are?


Yes.


In just two weeks?


Less I imagine as they were trapped after heavy rain. It seems obvious that they walked in before the rain started if you read the story. It's unfortunate the coach did not check weather forecasts.
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I am not trying to re-invent the wheel here. 

I am quite sure all this stuff has been dealt with on site.  So water came in......bloody good pumps can make water go out.

Water does not go up hill.
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Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:05pm:
But of course. The rain came down and wiped poor Incie out.

Gordon's trying to figure out a way to blame Islam, but we know who to blame.

I blame Allah, but that's just me.


Well Allah is the only god and all things are his doing.
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How does water in those caves drain naturally?  Can't be evaporation.
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I am not trying to re-invent the wheel here. 

I am quite sure all this stuff has been dealt with on site.  So water came in......bloody good pumps can make water go out.

Water does not go up hill.


They have bloody good pumps if you read the story. They are not bloody well good enough.
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How does water in those caves drain naturally?  Can't be evaporation.


Slow process is my guess which is why they may be stuck there until November.
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How does water in those caves drain naturally?  Can't be evaporation.


Slow process is my guess which is why they may be stuck there until November.


Nah....water drains downhill.

I'm sure those experts on site know that.  There has to be some unknown to us, on site fact.
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Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:11pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:09pm:
How does water in those caves drain naturally?  Can't be evaporation.


Slow process is my guess which is why they may be stuck there until November.


Nah....water drains downhill.

I'm sure those experts on site know that.  There has to be some unknown to us, on site fact.


Nah f'in' what? You think it's just a scam? They are in a cave, a cave is under the ground, down hill. We have people over there helping them.
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Reply #64 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:23pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:11pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:09pm:
How does water in those caves drain naturally?  Can't be evaporation.


Slow process is my guess which is why they may be stuck there until November.


I'd imagine the cave floors would be fairly porous and drain as soon as the flow stops
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Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:20pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:18pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:11pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:09pm:
How does water in those caves drain naturally?  Can't be evaporation.


Slow process is my guess which is why they may be stuck there until November.


Nah....water drains downhill.

I'm sure those experts on site know that.  There has to be some unknown to us, on site fact.


Nah f'in' what? You think it's just a scam? They are in a cave, a cave is under the ground, down hill. We have people over there helping them.


Yes, I know.  How does that water drain?  It must drain after monsoons, yes?
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Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:08pm:
I am not trying to re-invent the wheel here. 

I am quite sure all this stuff has been dealt with on site.  So water came in......bloody good pumps can make water go out.

Water does not go up hill.


They have bloody good pumps if you read the story. They are not bloody well good enough.


1.  Ensure air supply.
2.  "Yer gonna need a bigger pump."
3.  Get the bigger pump.
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Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:25pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:10pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:08pm:
I am not trying to re-invent the wheel here. 

I am quite sure all this stuff has been dealt with on site.  So water came in......bloody good pumps can make water go out.

Water does not go up hill.


They have bloody good pumps if you read the story. They are not bloody well good enough.


1.  Ensure air supply.
2.  "Yer gonna need a bigger pump."
3.  Get the bigger pump.


Perhaps you should lead this rescue mission, they have expertise from multiple countries trying to get them out and you know better. Jump on a plane and tell them how to do it Aussie.
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Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:10pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:08pm:
I am not trying to re-invent the wheel here. 

I am quite sure all this stuff has been dealt with on site.  So water came in......bloody good pumps can make water go out.

Water does not go up hill.


They have bloody good pumps if you read the story. They are not bloody well good enough.


1.  Ensure air supply.
2.  "Yer gonna need a bigger pump."
3.  Get the bigger pump.


Yeah,  80s Australian soft rock will make all the difference.

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Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:29pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:25pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:10pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:08pm:
I am not trying to re-invent the wheel here. 

I am quite sure all this stuff has been dealt with on site.  So water came in......bloody good pumps can make water go out.

Water does not go up hill.


They have bloody good pumps if you read the story. They are not bloody well good enough.


1.  Ensure air supply.
2.  "Yer gonna need a bigger pump."
3.  Get the bigger pump.


Perhaps you should lead this rescue mission, they have expertise from multiple countries trying to get them out and you know better. Jump on a plane and tell them how to do it Aussie.


Maybe there's a strawberry picker with his finger in a bung hole.
Take it out and the water will drain right out
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Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:29pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:25pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:10pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:08pm:
I am not trying to re-invent the wheel here. 

I am quite sure all this stuff has been dealt with on site.  So water came in......bloody good pumps can make water go out.

Water does not go up hill.


They have bloody good pumps if you read the story. They are not bloody well good enough.


1.  Ensure air supply.
2.  "Yer gonna need a bigger pump."
3.  Get the bigger pump.


Perhaps you should lead this rescue mission, they have expertise from multiple countries trying to get them out and you know better. Jump on a plane and tell them how to do it Aussie.


Maybe there's a strawberry picker with his finger in a bung hole.
Take it out and the water will drain right out


Are you saying she was a dyke?
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Reply #71 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:44pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:29pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:25pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:10pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:08pm:
I am not trying to re-invent the wheel here. 

I am quite sure all this stuff has been dealt with on site.  So water came in......bloody good pumps can make water go out.

Water does not go up hill.


They have bloody good pumps if you read the story. They are not bloody well good enough.


1.  Ensure air supply.
2.  "Yer gonna need a bigger pump."
3.  Get the bigger pump.


Perhaps you should lead this rescue mission, they have expertise from multiple countries trying to get them out and you know better. Jump on a plane and tell them how to do it Aussie.



Aussie couldn't escape from a wet paper bag.  Smiley
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Reply #72 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 11:07pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:42pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:38pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:29pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:25pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:10pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:08pm:
I am not trying to re-invent the wheel here. 

I am quite sure all this stuff has been dealt with on site.  So water came in......bloody good pumps can make water go out.

Water does not go up hill.


They have bloody good pumps if you read the story. They are not bloody well good enough.


1.  Ensure air supply.
2.  "Yer gonna need a bigger pump."
3.  Get the bigger pump.


Perhaps you should lead this rescue mission, they have expertise from multiple countries trying to get them out and you know better. Jump on a plane and tell them how to do it Aussie.


Maybe there's a strawberry picker with his finger in a bung hole.
Take it out and the water will drain right out


Are you saying she was a dyke?


How would you tell from that position?
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Reply #73 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 11:09pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:44pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:29pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:25pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:10pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:08pm:
I am not trying to re-invent the wheel here. 

I am quite sure all this stuff has been dealt with on site.  So water came in......bloody good pumps can make water go out.

Water does not go up hill.


They have bloody good pumps if you read the story. They are not bloody well good enough.


1.  Ensure air supply.
2.  "Yer gonna need a bigger pump."
3.  Get the bigger pump.


Perhaps you should lead this rescue mission, they have expertise from multiple countries trying to get them out and you know better. Jump on a plane and tell them how to do it Aussie.



Aussie couldn't escape from a wet paper bag.  Smiley


I'm surprised the Thai Government hasn't put out a call for Indian cabbie to come offer their expert opinion. Maybe roll them out on beaded seat covers?
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Reply #74 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 11:11pm
 
Gordon wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:36pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:25pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:10pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:08pm:
I am not trying to re-invent the wheel here. 

I am quite sure all this stuff has been dealt with on site.  So water came in......bloody good pumps can make water go out.

Water does not go up hill.


They have bloody good pumps if you read the story. They are not bloody well good enough.


1.  Ensure air supply.
2.  "Yer gonna need a bigger pump."
3.  Get the bigger pump.


Yeah,  80s Australian soft rock will make all the difference.

I'm all out of love


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Reply #75 - Jul 6th, 2018 at 11:31pm
 
Gordon wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:36pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:25pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:10pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:08pm:
I am not trying to re-invent the wheel here. 

I am quite sure all this stuff has been dealt with on site.  So water came in......bloody good pumps can make water go out.

Water does not go up hill.


They have bloody good pumps if you read the story. They are not bloody well good enough.


1.  Ensure air supply.
2.  "Yer gonna need a bigger pump."
3.  Get the bigger pump.


Yeah,  80s Australian soft rock will make all the difference.

I'm all out of love


Perhaps they should pour sugar and fruit flavour in the water and call in Salt and Peppa?
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Reply #76 - Jul 7th, 2018 at 6:56am
 
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:29pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:25pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:10pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 10:08pm:
I am not trying to re-invent the wheel here. 

I am quite sure all this stuff has been dealt with on site.  So water came in......bloody good pumps can make water go out.

Water does not go up hill.


They have bloody good pumps if you read the story. They are not bloody well good enough.


1.  Ensure air supply.
2.  "Yer gonna need a bigger pump."
3.  Get the bigger pump.


Perhaps you should lead this rescue mission, they have expertise from multiple countries trying to get them out and you know better. Jump on a plane and tell them how to do it Aussie.


Far cough.

Quote:
I am not trying to re-invent the wheel here. 

I am quite sure all this stuff has been dealt with on site.



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Reply #77 - Jul 7th, 2018 at 9:56am
 
I am just glad we havent got someone claiming this is FAKE news already..

its bad enough some appear to not have the ability to see everything that is being done  if for the safety of those boys... and for no other reason...

I am so thankful they have been found and they are no longer alone and in the dark...... some are not well at all...just think they may rescue some and not others....whatever and however they do it .. THERE WILL BE MASSIVE RISK......who would be in the shoes of those making those calls????>..

come on guys   pray this ends well for everyone.....
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Reply #78 - Jul 7th, 2018 at 6:33pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:47pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:18pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:13pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 9:02pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 8:43pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 6th, 2018 at 1:38pm:
"Thai authorities say a Navy SEAL working to rescue the boys and their soccer coach trapped in a cave has died from lack of oxygen."

Cry


Yes read that this afternoon.

Makes you wonder about the boys chances when one of the experts dies.


Yeah.

I'm really worried for them.

I wish they could drill down and lift them up through a chimney.

The diving option just doesn't sound good.

Someone mentioned drugging them, and then dragging them out.

That might not be such a bad idea.

If they start to panic when going under water - and wouldn't we all - things could go south real quick.

Fingers crossed they all get out safe.


I'm thinking full face masks so voice intercom can be used, plus a low dose of valium.




Yep.

I think drugs need to play a part.

If it was me, I'd be freaking out.

I can't imagine what it would be like for a kid who can't even swim.




Are they Muslims?


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Looks like the rescue is under way.


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The rescue attempt is expected to get under way later today. Journalists were asked to leave the site this morning with a new media centre set up 3km away. Thai authorities confirmed the decision was made so that a rescue operation can take place.

It will be a nervous wait when emergency workers make the descent into the caves. Without a reliable source of communication we may not know if the operation has been a success until the divers re-emerge about 12 hours later.

US and Australian divers have reportedly joined the Thai Navy as workers prepare for the rescue attempt. Among them is Adelaide anaethetist and diving expert Dr Richard Harris.

The plight of the trapped group has made news around the world since they became stranded in a cramped chamber of the Tham Luang cave complex on June 23.

Earlier, billionaire entrepreneur Elon Musk tweeted he was flying a “tiny, kid-sized submarine” over to Thailand after mulling over a number of different ideas to help the rescue effort.

“Primary path is basically a tiny, kid-size submarine using the liquid oxygen transfer tube of Falcon rocket as hull. Light enough to be carried by 2 divers, small enough to get through narrow gaps. Extremely robust,” he wrote.

Previously, Musk and his tech team were discussing an “escape pod design” or “inflatable tube” to get the boys and their coach out

“Now and in the next three or four days, the conditions are perfect (for evacuation) in terms of the water, the weather and the boys’ health,” rescue operation chief Narongsak Osottanakorn said.

“We have to make a clear decision on what we can do.”

Mr Osottanakorn said officials are “still at the state of war against the water” and that no plans are perfect.

“All the plans must not have any holes in them,” he said, noting that “hundreds of people have vetted this” and “there will always be margins for error.”

He said authorities are waiting for two big groups of volunteer divers to arrive later today, after which they’ll be ready to begin the operation of bringing them out.

He says: “The plan that I’ve held on to from the beginning is that we have to bring the kids out and the determining factor of this plan is to have as little water as possible.”

He said floodwaters have been drained as much as possible, “but if it rains and adds to it again, we don’t know what other risk factors we will have to face.”

He also warned about higher carbon dioxide levels in the cave.

The young soccer coach who has been trapped for two weeks inside a partially flooded Thai cave with his team of 12 boys has apologised to the parents of the boys in a scrawled note released by the Thai Navy.

“To the parents of all the kids, right now the kids are all fine, the crew are taking good care,” Ekapol Chanthawong wrote. “I promise I will care for the kids as best as possible. I want to say thanks for all the support and I want to apologise to the parents.”

A total of seven pages were posted on the Thai Navy SEALs Facebook page, with messages apparently from each of the boys — aged 11 to 16 — and their 25-year-old coach.

Their brief notes express gratitude, love as well as dreams of food. “I want to eat pan-fried pork,” one of the boys writes.

“Don’t worry, everyone is strong”, one letter read. “When we get out of here, we want to eat many things. We want to go home as soon as possible,” adds the message.

The group has been trapped more than 4km inside the cave in northern Thailand since June 23.






well done everyone   its now or never....

what these kids have been through  this swim could be a walk in the park for them.......I pray it is.. Kiss Kiss Kisslove and kisses  from Australia,..
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Reply #81 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:26pm
 
how many Billionaires do we have in the world??

and yet its only Elon Musk that ever puts his hand up to help...
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Reply #82 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:36pm
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:26pm:
how many Billionaires do we have in the world??

and yet its only Elon Musk that ever puts his hand up to help...


Well, there are plenty of foreign volunteers there.

One English guy who owns a diving company in Ko Tao has moved every last piece of diving equipment there.

I'm not saying Musk isn't genuine in his offers for to help, but remember everything he does incorporates an element of show business.
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Reply #83 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:36pm
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:26pm:
how many Billionaires do we have in the world??

and yet its only Elon Musk that ever puts his hand up to help...


Not everything is reported in the 6 o'clock "news", and not all philanthropists like to go public.

In fact, most don't.
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Reply #84 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 2:18pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:36pm:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:26pm:
how many Billionaires do we have in the world??

and yet its only Elon Musk that ever puts his hand up to help...


Not everything is reported in the 6 o'clock "news", and not all philanthropists like to go public.

In fact, most don't.



that is so true......what have you done mechanic???...other than make cracks like that?..

money actually wouldnt change much.....the heros are all there risking their lives for no payment...all they want is 12 kids and their coach back home.....

Elon Musk is in fact sending engineers well done to him
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Reply #85 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 2:51pm
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:26pm:
how many Billionaires do we have in the world??

and yet its only Elon Musk that ever puts his hand up to help...


No, I think Mr Trump offered to send some golf course developers in, Mechanic.

His thoughts and his prayers are with the families, you see.
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Reply #86 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 2:55pm
 
cods wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 2:18pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:36pm:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:26pm:
how many Billionaires do we have in the world??

and yet its only Elon Musk that ever puts his hand up to help...


Not everything is reported in the 6 o'clock "news", and not all philanthropists like to go public.

In fact, most don't.



that is so true......what have you done mechanic???...other than make cracks like that  


Now now, dear, the Mechanic has lobbied extensively to keep people like that out of America.

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Reply #87 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 4:34pm
 
Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:36pm:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:26pm:
how many Billionaires do we have in the world??

and yet its only Elon Musk that ever puts his hand up to help...


Well, there are plenty of foreign volunteers there.

One English guy who owns a diving company in Ko Tao has moved every last piece of diving equipment there.

I'm not saying Musk isn't genuine in his offers for to help, but remember everything he does incorporates an element of show business.


yeah I realise that theres a massive effort on the part of cave Divers around the world... including australia... they are hero's...

but sometimes we need someone who has got a great idea and money to back it... like Musk's mini sub.... if it works sounds like a great idea...

if he gets publicity who cares ... as long as they get the kids out...

in the mean time... what other Billionaire has put his hand up to actually do something useful to help in this crisis??

im betting they are sending thoughts and prayers...

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Elon Musk is sending a team of SpaceX and Boring Company engineers to Thailand to help rescue efforts for the twelve boys and their soccer coach trapped in a cave.

Several of Musk's companies could potentially be put to use rescuing the boys,
including the radar location technology from the Boring Co. and SpaceX, plus drills and pumps to drain water and high-power Tesla Powerwall battery packs.


Boring Co. is a venture that is building tunnels for high-speed urban transportation.

The Thai government released a statement Friday on Facebook confirming that Musk's team will arrive in Chiang Rai on Saturday. Tesla confirmed that he is in talks with Thailand officials.

A soccer team of twelve boys and their coach went missing late last month, only to be found on Monday trapped in a cave flooded by heavy rains. Many of the passageways leading into the cave are narrow, and most of the boys do not know how to swim.

And the situation is growing more desperate: A former Thai Navy SEAL died from lack of oxygen on Friday while attempting to replace oxygen canisters for the boys.

The Tesla and SpaceX CEO tweeted on Wednesday that he was "happy to help" the Thai government's rescue efforts, and by Thursday he was pitching ideas over Twitter with James Yenbamroong, CEO of Thai space startup mu Space Corp, about potential strategies that could work.

"Maybe worth trying: insert a 1m diameter nylon tube (or shorter set of tubes for most difficult sections) through cave network & inflate with air like a bouncy castle," Musk tweeted Thursday. "Should create an air tunnel underwater against cave roof & auto-conform to odd shapes like the 70cm hole."


Great idea... run a liner through the tunnel and pump it clear of water... kids walk out...
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Reply #89 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:29pm
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 4:34pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:36pm:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:26pm:
how many Billionaires do we have in the world??

and yet its only Elon Musk that ever puts his hand up to help...


Well, there are plenty of foreign volunteers there.

One English guy who owns a diving company in Ko Tao has moved every last piece of diving equipment there.

I'm not saying Musk isn't genuine in his offers for to help, but remember everything he does incorporates an element of show business.


yeah I realise that theres a massive effort on the part of cave Divers around the world... including australia... they are hero's...

but sometimes we need someone who has got a great idea and money to back it... like Musk's mini sub.... if it works sounds like a great idea...

if he gets publicity who cares ... as long as they get the kids out...

in the mean time... what other Billionaire has put his hand up to actually do something useful to help in this crisis??

im betting they are sending thoughts and prayers...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWCCiSQVMAA8lB_.jpg




we seriously have no idea how bad it all is... 4 kl is a long way to be under rock and water....on paper I am sure everything looks easy peasy....I have faith in what they are doing   is the best way.....
for the safety of everyone    having lost one diver   it makes it even more  daunting...

they couldnt pay me enough money to go in there...I am in awe!!!!!
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Reply #90 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:30pm
 
How did they get stuck in the cave to a point where they could not get out? Did they do a visit, it started raining, and they could not go back?
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UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:30pm:
How did they get stuck in the cave to a point where they could not get out? Did they do a visit, it started raining, and they could not go back?


Yes.

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UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:30pm:
How did they get stuck in the cave to a point where they could not get out? Did they do a visit, it started raining, and they could not go back?




where have you been????????

we will find out more when they are rescued......lets wait till then    get them out first..
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UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:30pm:
How did they get stuck in the cave to a point where they could not get out? Did they do a visit, it started raining, and they could not go back?




where have you been????????

we will find out more when they are rescued......lets wait till then    get them out first..


Unsub hasn't heard any news as he's been stuck in a cave.
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Reply #94 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:46pm
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 4:34pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:36pm:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 1:26pm:
how many Billionaires do we have in the world??

and yet its only Elon Musk that ever puts his hand up to help...


Well, there are plenty of foreign volunteers there.

One English guy who owns a diving company in Ko Tao has moved every last piece of diving equipment there.

I'm not saying Musk isn't genuine in his offers for to help, but remember everything he does incorporates an element of show business.


yeah I realise that theres a massive effort on the part of cave Divers around the world... including australia... they are hero's...

but sometimes we need someone who has got a great idea and money to back it... like Musk's mini sub.... if it works sounds like a great idea...

if he gets publicity who cares ... as long as they get the kids out...

in the mean time... what other Billionaire has put his hand up to actually do something useful to help in this crisis??

im betting they are sending thoughts and prayers...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWCCiSQVMAA8lB_.jpg


They are, Mechanic, but not money. Remember what Mr Trump just said about donating and volunteering in his recent campaign speech?

He said he gets make Amerika great again, he gets build a big beautiful wall, but thousand points of light?

What's that about?
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:31pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:30pm:
How did they get stuck in the cave to a point where they could not get out? Did they do a visit, it started raining, and they could not go back?


Yes.



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Reply #96 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:51pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:47pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:31pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:30pm:
How did they get stuck in the cave to a point where they could not get out? Did they do a visit, it started raining, and they could not go back?


Yes.



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I wonder if they'll have any muhammadan cave style revelations?
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Reply #97 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:54pm
 
Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:51pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:47pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:31pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:30pm:
How did they get stuck in the cave to a point where they could not get out? Did they do a visit, it started raining, and they could not go back?


Yes.



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I wonder if they'll have any muhammadan cave style revelations?


Not if they keep thinking about fried pork.

If they wanted Massaman curry, maybe.
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Bobby. wrote on Jul 4th, 2018 at 12:10am:
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 3rd, 2018 at 9:55pm:
Ee-gad, a bunch of 13 year old boys stuck down a deep dark cave. I wonder what they were doing down there.

Bobby?



The person who led them there at a time of possible heavy rain is an idiot.


Yep just like these idiots. Makes me cringe just watching it Sad These caves should be sealed up to stop idiots from getting the darwin award for stupidity !

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Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:57pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 4th, 2018 at 12:10am:
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 3rd, 2018 at 9:55pm:
Ee-gad, a bunch of 13 year old boys stuck down a deep dark cave. I wonder what they were doing down there.

Bobby?



The person who led them there at a time of possible heavy rain is an idiot.


Yep just like these idiots. Makes me cringe just watching it Sad These caves should be sealed up to stop idiots from getting the darwin award for stupidity !



Gordon says they're Muslims, Nail, so it's not surprising.
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sarah hansen young says all men are rapists.
the childcare loons wish to ban little boys playing with toy guns or plastic swords.

"toxic masculinity" is what the left see.

and yet here we see the true "noble masculinity".

a thai seal already has "laid down his life".

and, it would appear every person going into the cave to do this noble work is of the masculine persuasion.

we can also look at these noble boys and their coach showing stoicism, courage and perseverence.

masculinity isnt about rape culture and destruction.

it is about bearing the burden without complaint.

i doubt these seals are in some seal union, whining about getting penalty rates for working overtime.

they are acting in a spirit of contribution and moving forward with nobility.

people like SHY and her millions of virtue signalling , bed wetting, white knights and associated man hating leftie intellectuals would do well to watch theses noble men going about their work.

hope theses brave men get these brave boys out.

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Reply #101 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 6:57pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:57pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 4th, 2018 at 12:10am:
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 3rd, 2018 at 9:55pm:
Ee-gad, a bunch of 13 year old boys stuck down a deep dark cave. I wonder what they were doing down there.

Bobby?



The person who led them there at a time of possible heavy rain is an idiot.


Yep just like these idiots. Makes me cringe just watching it Sad These caves should be sealed up to stop idiots from getting the darwin award for stupidity !




Yes Nail,
caves should be closed off.
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Dunno how accurate this is:

...

Assuming accuracy......I still dunno how the managed to get where they are.  Rescuers have had to manually 'mine' to enlarge small crevices/holes....so how they initially got through them is yet to be explained.
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Reply #103 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 7:25pm
 
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Dunno how accurate this is:

https://media.kesq.com/npg-global-us-east-1/photo/2018/07/04/thai%20cave%20map.j...

Assuming accuracy......I still dunno how the managed to get where they are.  Rescuers have had to manually 'mine' to enlarge small crevices/holes....so how they initially got through them is yet to be explained.


Are you senile?

What do they need to use to get out that they didn't need to get in? You're as thick as the day is long.
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aquascoot wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 6:37pm:
sarah hansen young says all men are rapists.
the childcare loons wish to ban little boys playing with toy guns or plastic swords.

"toxic masculinity" is what the left see.

and yet here we see the true "noble masculinity".

a thai seal already has "laid down his life".

and, it would appear every person going into the cave to do this noble work is of the masculine persuasion.

we can also look at these noble boys and their coach showing stoicism, courage and perseverence.

masculinity isnt about rape culture and destruction.

it is about bearing the burden without complaint.

i doubt these seals are in some seal union, whining about getting penalty rates for working overtime.

they are acting in a spirit of contribution and moving forward with nobility.

people like SHY and her millions of virtue signalling , bed wetting, white knights and associated man hating leftie intellectuals would do well to watch theses noble men going about their work.

hope theses brave men get these brave boys out.

life is harsh
nature is relentless.

move forward with nobility


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aquascoot wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 6:37pm:
sarah hansen young says all men are rapists.
the childcare loons wish to ban little boys playing with toy guns or plastic swords.

"toxic masculinity" is what the left see.

and yet here we see the true "noble masculinity".

a thai seal already has "laid down his life".

and, it would appear every person going into the cave to do this noble work is of the masculine persuasion.

we can also look at these noble boys and their coach showing stoicism, courage and perseverence.

masculinity isnt about rape culture and destruction.

it is about bearing the burden without complaint.

i doubt these seals are in some seal union, whining about getting penalty rates for working overtime.

they are acting in a spirit of contribution and moving forward with nobility.

people like SHY and her millions of virtue signalling , bed wetting, white knights and associated man hating leftie intellectuals would do well to watch theses noble men going about their work.

hope theses brave men get these brave boys out.

life is harsh
nature is relentless.

move forward with nobility


No, she doesn't.

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I thought they were stuck in a rut, but it seems they are privileged school boys...  (humph) we never got to go on cave trips when I was at school...

Yes - all the rescuers are, as usual, men .... same as combat troops for real and not the occasional accidental tourist who gets into a firefight by mistake.

Can't wait to see the results from 50% women Infantry and other hard yard services.... Navy is one thing... they live on a boat and get fed very well without doing too much physical work - Air Force is a skate.. they send their officers out to fight sitting in comfy seats and have a massive tail-to-tooth ratio that suits women admirably...

When The Next Big One breaks out..... the nation will be so appalled by the casualties that it will ban women from frontline service...

As the man said about the US decision to build only 400 A-10s - it's good to know your political leadership don't seriously think there'll be any real war soon...

Bet their sons and daughters don't pay for it, though.. nothing new there....
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aquascoot wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 6:37pm:
sarah hansen young says all men are rapists.
the childcare loons wish to ban little boys playing with toy guns or plastic swords.

"toxic masculinity" is what the left see.

and yet here we see the true "noble masculinity".

a thai seal already has "laid down his life".

and, it would appear every person going into the cave to do this noble work is of the masculine persuasion.

we can also look at these noble boys and their coach showing stoicism, courage and perseverence.

masculinity isnt about rape culture and destruction.

it is about bearing the burden without complaint.

i doubt these seals are in some seal union, whining about getting penalty rates for working overtime.

they are acting in a spirit of contribution and moving forward with nobility.

people like SHY and her millions of virtue signalling , bed wetting, white knights and associated man hating leftie intellectuals would do well to watch theses noble men going about their work.

hope theses brave men get these brave boys out.

life is harsh
nature is relentless.

move forward with nobility


I wonder how many women are there helping...  Undecided

do we need to get a quota system running??

Equal pay of course... but only if they do EQUAL work....
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Caving can be a dangerous business...

dropping down into one cavern to another can be easy... but then try to get UP... and OUT ... of that same cavern ... that same small Hole ... and see how easy it is..

Try entering a HUGE Cavern from a small hole.. continuing on and then later coming back to that HUGE Cavern... in dim light.. and remember that you came there through a small hole at one dark end of the cavern that you cannot see...

i recollect 4 of us Military personal, could not find a way out for around 15 minutes.. which seemed like an hour... you had to go to one end of the cavern which got smaller and smaller like a wedge.. darker and darker with your small helmet light... and then once you were at the end of the wedge... look directly to the right to see the small hole of which you entered....

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its on... !

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Unconfirmed Thai media reports say two to three boys are on the brink of emerging from the cave system after successfully negotiating the difficult channels.

It is anticipated they will remain at a medical station near the entrance for health assessment and for their eyes to adjust to the light after some two weeks underground.
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President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 9:52pm:
its on... !

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Unconfirmed Thai media reports say two to three boys are on the brink of emerging from the cave system after successfully negotiating the difficult channels.

It is anticipated they will remain at a medical station near the entrance for health assessment and for their eyes to adjust to the light after some two weeks underground.


Of course it is unconfirmed.  The schmedia have been told to piss off.  They are now several kilometers away from the site.  Good.  They can far cough.
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2 are out and a 3rd on his way- they are receiving medical treatment now  (( confirmed))

ABC live 24
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they have had ambulances rushing away from the place  so I think its safe to say the media have it right.....at least 3 boys out 2 on the way to the helicopter...they are 60 ks from the hospital...

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2 out and a 3rd on his way- ((confirmed ))

https://iview.abc.net.au/show/abc-news-24

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I am sure the ABC smedia wouldnt make it up to get a headline... even in a case like this..
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2 are out and a 3rd on his way- they are receiving medical treatment now  (( confirmed))

ABC live 24


Yes, ABC 24 report that......odd they are now reporting on another topic.

Not confirmed.

Why the anxiety to report what is not yet known.  Just wait ferfuxsake.
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Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 9:59pm:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 9:52pm:
its on... !

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Unconfirmed Thai media reports say two to three boys are on the brink of emerging from the cave system after successfully negotiating the difficult channels.

It is anticipated they will remain at a medical station near the entrance for health assessment and for their eyes to adjust to the light after some two weeks underground.


Of course it is unconfirmed.  The schmedia have been told to piss off.  They are now several kilometers away from the site.  Good.  They can far cough.

its confirmed Aussie- to say anyone would make it up= WTH- 2 confirmed out and a 3rd still coming
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Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:23pm:
Agnes wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:17pm:
2 are out and a 3rd on his way- they are receiving medical treatment now  (( confirmed))

ABC live 24


Yes, ABC 24 report that......odd they are now reporting on another topic.

Not confirmed.

Why the anxiety to report what is not yet known.  Just wait ferfuxsake.

Its Confirmed - stop being stupid !!!!!!!!!
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 7:30pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 6:37pm:
sarah hansen young says all men are rapists.


No, she doesn't.



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Confirmed by whom?  Where are the pics?  Why the rush?

Wait.
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Confirmed by whom?  Where are the pics?  Why the rush?

Wait.


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Liam Cochrane is not 'there.'  He is three kilometers away from the site.
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Agnes wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:28pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:26pm:
Confirmed by whom?  Where are the pics?  Why the rush?

Wait.


You are wrong and im not hanging around here argueing with your dementia


Good.  Far cough.

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Confirmed by whom?  Where are the pics?  Why the rush?

Wait.


Pics or it didn't happen!?
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...and now ABC 24 is showing a repeat of One on One.  Yes.  They are right on top of this.  Totally up to the minute.


Why the need to post here in some sort of rush that some kids are out?

Wait.

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wait or far cough make up your mind

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2018/jul/08/thailand-cave-rescue-operatio...

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Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:31pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:26pm:
Confirmed by whom?  Where are the pics?  Why the rush?

Wait.


Pics or it didn't happen!?

not you too- ? dont follow aussie he has known to be wrong many times- they are receiving medical treatment and read that lnk- i have seen them in the 24 news footage- put the cans down and concentrate
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Read the language.....'reported.'

Why do you feel some urge to tell us something we are all well on top off.

It is yet.....unconfirmed.

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Confirmed 3 out.

Stick to being a turd sorter, cabbie

https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/live-preparations-for-thailand-cave-rescue-begin-20180708-p4zq7a.html
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Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:36pm:
Confirmed 3 out.

Stick to being a turd sorter, cabbie

https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/live-preparations-for-thailand-cave-rescue-begin-20180708-p4zq7a.html

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Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:26pm:
Confirmed by whom?  Where are the pics?  Why the rush?

Wait.


Pics or it didn't happen!?





the have their own media at the site.. and why not?....

its their country they can do what they like...

the last thing they need is microphones being stuck in the face of a 12 year old who has been in a cave for 15 days.. and asked  how does it feel to be rescued...

which is likely what someone for NBC would do...

I think the Governor has done a terrific job.....the world is waiting for the news... and they are getting it all in good time...
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Agnes wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:38pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:36pm:
Confirmed 3 out.

Stick to being a turd sorter, cabbie

https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/live-preparations-for-thailand-cave-rescue-begin-20180708-p4zq7a.html

LOL thanks Gordon- !!!!!!


Funny how turdo hates the media, yet he's a lawyer AND a cabbie. That's basically like a bucket of schit with some more schit thrown on top.
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Agnes wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:38pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:36pm:
Confirmed 3 out.

Stick to being a turd sorter, cabbie

https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/live-preparations-for-thailand-cave-rescue-begin-20180708-p4zq7a.html

LOL thanks Gordon- !!!!!!


Oh yeas.  As if the SMH has a reporter closer than three kilometres away from the scene.  Do you have no idea how schmedia works?  They all trip over themselves for the scoop......truth is irrelevant.  Near enough is good enough. 

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Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:42pm:
Agnes wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:38pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:36pm:
Confirmed 3 out.

Stick to being a turd sorter, cabbie

https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/live-preparations-for-thailand-cave-rescue-begin-20180708-p4zq7a.html

LOL thanks Gordon- !!!!!!


Funny how turdo hates the media, yet he's a lawyer AND a cabbie. That's basically like a bucket of schit with some more schit thrown on top.



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No.  It is 'reported' there is ONE camera on site.  I applaud that.  Fuq the schmedia.  This is not about them or us.

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Stupid turdo. Best you stick to strawberry picking.

Two kids are out. They are currently at the field hospital near the cave," Tossathep Boonthong, chief of the health department in Chiang Rai in northern Thailand, told Reuters


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Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:31pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:26pm:
Confirmed by whom?  Where are the pics?  Why the rush?

Wait.


Pics or it didn't happen!?

not you too- ? dont follow aussie he has known to be wrong many times- they are receiving medical treatment and read that lnk- i have seen them in the 24 news footage- put the cans down and concentrate


I was questioning his "pics or it didn't happen" stance. Notice the "?" at the end of it?
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Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:49pm:
Agnes wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:36pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:31pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:26pm:
Confirmed by whom?  Where are the pics?  Why the rush?

Wait.


Pics or it didn't happen!?

not you too- ? dont follow aussie he has known to be wrong many times- they are receiving medical treatment and read that lnk- i have seen them in the 24 news footage- put the cans down and concentrate


I was questioning his "pics or it didn't happen" stance.


I know you were.

But this is typical of schmedia snake oil the gullible and willing swallow:

Quote:
chief of the health department in Chiang Rai in northern Thailand, told Reuters


An un-named person occupying a generalised 'chief' position somewhere 'told' Reuters.

In other words... hearsay and not confirmed.

Wait.
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Reply #139 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:59pm
 
Just give up, turdo

“Two kids are out. They are currently at the field hospital near the cave,” Tossathep Boonthong, chief of the health department in Chiang Rai in northern Thailand, told Reuters. “We are giving them a physical examination.”

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-thailand-accident-cave/first-two-thai-schoolboys-rescued-from-flooded-cave-idUSKBN1JY02N
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For a 'soccer' team.
Those Thai kids sure don't know how to 'dive'.

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Reply #141 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:08pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:54pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:49pm:
Agnes wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:36pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:31pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:26pm:
Confirmed by whom?  Where are the pics?  Why the rush?

Wait.


Pics or it didn't happen!?

not you too- ? dont follow aussie he has known to be wrong many times- they are receiving medical treatment and read that lnk- i have seen them in the 24 news footage- put the cans down and concentrate


I was questioning his "pics or it didn't happen" stance.


I know you were.

But this is typical of schmedia snake oil the gullible and willing swallow:

Quote:
chief of the health department in Chiang Rai in northern Thailand, told Reuters


An un-named person occupying a generalised 'chief' position somewhere 'told' Reuters.

In other words... hearsay and not confirmed.

Wait.


Seeing as the information is coming from the Thai govt it's safe to assume what they say is true. The world is watching, the world has sent help, I doubt they are fibbing. No need to wait, some are coming out.
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Reply #142 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:12pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:08pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:54pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:49pm:
Agnes wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:36pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:31pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:26pm:
Confirmed by whom?  Where are the pics?  Why the rush?

Wait.


Pics or it didn't happen!?

not you too- ? dont follow aussie he has known to be wrong many times- they are receiving medical treatment and read that lnk- i have seen them in the 24 news footage- put the cans down and concentrate


I was questioning his "pics or it didn't happen" stance.


I know you were.

But this is typical of schmedia snake oil the gullible and willing swallow:

Quote:
chief of the health department in Chiang Rai in northern Thailand, told Reuters


An un-named person occupying a generalised 'chief' position somewhere 'told' Reuters.

In other words... hearsay and not confirmed.

Wait.


Seeing as the information is coming from the Thai govt it's safe to assume what they say is true. The world is watching, the world has sent help, I doubt they are fibbing. No need to wait, some are coming out.


Did you notice how aussie altered my quote, deleted the name of the Thai official then went on to say the official was un named?  Wonder why he did that?
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Reply #143 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:12pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:08pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:54pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:49pm:
Agnes wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:36pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:31pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:26pm:
Confirmed by whom?  Where are the pics?  Why the rush?

Wait.


Pics or it didn't happen!?

not you too- ? dont follow aussie he has known to be wrong many times- they are receiving medical treatment and read that lnk- i have seen them in the 24 news footage- put the cans down and concentrate


I was questioning his "pics or it didn't happen" stance.


I know you were.

But this is typical of schmedia snake oil the gullible and willing swallow:

Quote:
chief of the health department in Chiang Rai in northern Thailand, told Reuters


An un-named person occupying a generalised 'chief' position somewhere 'told' Reuters.

In other words... hearsay and not confirmed.

Wait.


Seeing as the information is coming from the Thai govt it's safe to assume what they say is true. The world is watching, the world has sent help, I doubt they are fibbing. No need to wait, some are coming out.

YAY

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Reply #144 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:15pm
 
Agnes wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:12pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:08pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:54pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:49pm:
Agnes wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:36pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:31pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:26pm:
Confirmed by whom?  Where are the pics?  Why the rush?

Wait.


Pics or it didn't happen!?

not you too- ? dont follow aussie he has known to be wrong many times- they are receiving medical treatment and read that lnk- i have seen them in the 24 news footage- put the cans down and concentrate


I was questioning his "pics or it didn't happen" stance.


I know you were.

But this is typical of schmedia snake oil the gullible and willing swallow:

Quote:
chief of the health department in Chiang Rai in northern Thailand, told Reuters


An un-named person occupying a generalised 'chief' position somewhere 'told' Reuters.

In other words... hearsay and not confirmed.

Wait.


Seeing as the information is coming from the Thai govt it's safe to assume what they say is true. The world is watching, the world has sent help, I doubt they are fibbing. No need to wait, some are coming out.

YAY

Smiley   Smiley


Can you imagine the international embarrassment for Thailand if they "fake newsed" this? I can't see that being the case.

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Reply #145 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:18pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:15pm:
Agnes wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:12pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:08pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:54pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:49pm:
Agnes wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:36pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:31pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:26pm:
Confirmed by whom?  Where are the pics?  Why the rush?

Wait.


Pics or it didn't happen!?

not you too- ? dont follow aussie he has known to be wrong many times- they are receiving medical treatment and read that lnk- i have seen them in the 24 news footage- put the cans down and concentrate


I was questioning his "pics or it didn't happen" stance.


I know you were.

But this is typical of schmedia snake oil the gullible and willing swallow:

Quote:
chief of the health department in Chiang Rai in northern Thailand, told Reuters


An un-named person occupying a generalised 'chief' position somewhere 'told' Reuters.

In other words... hearsay and not confirmed.

Wait.


Seeing as the information is coming from the Thai govt it's safe to assume what they say is true. The world is watching, the world has sent help, I doubt they are fibbing. No need to wait, some are coming out.

YAY

Smiley   Smiley


Can you imagine the international embarrassment for Thailand if they "fake newsed" this? I can't see that being the case.


Yes indeed but still a long way to go- must be horrible down there- amazing aussie divers/rescuers-  great stories to tell the kids one day
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Reply #146 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:20pm
 
Aussie, why did you alter my quote?

This is what I posted which included the name of the thai official.  You deleted it then said the official was un named.

Are you a compulsive liar?

Two kids are out. They are currently at the field hospital near the cave," Tossathep Boonthong, chief of the health department in Chiang Rai in northern Thailand, told Reuters
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Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:20pm:
Aussie, why did you alter my quote?

This is what I posted which included the name of the thai official.  You deleted it then said the official was un named.

Are you a compulsive liar?

Two kids are out. They are currently at the field hospital near the cave," Tossathep Boonthong, chief of the health department in Chiang Rai in northern Thailand, told Reuters


You'll have to point it out, I can't see it.
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Reply #148 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:26pm
 
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:23pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:20pm:
Aussie, why did you alter my quote?

This is what I posted which included the name of the thai official.  You deleted it then said the official was un named.

Are you a compulsive liar?

Two kids are out. They are currently at the field hospital near the cave," Tossathep Boonthong, chief of the health department in Chiang Rai in northern Thailand, told Reuters


You'll have to point it out, I can't see it.



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Reply #149 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:31pm
 
Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:26pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:23pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:20pm:
Aussie, why did you alter my quote?

This is what I posted which included the name of the thai official.  You deleted it then said the official was un named.

Are you a compulsive liar?

Two kids are out. They are currently at the field hospital near the cave," Tossathep Boonthong, chief of the health department in Chiang Rai in northern Thailand, told Reuters


You'll have to point it out, I can't see it.



Wink



I see, cutting you sentence to misrepresent which is against the rules? What say you in your defence Aussie? You now it's a "win a free holiday" thing.
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Reply #150 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:31pm
 
From here

I posted this, Aussie deleted the section highlighted and then said the source was unamed

Two kids are out. They are currently at the field hospital near the cave," Tossathep Boonthong, chief of the health department in Chiang Rai in northern Thailand, told Reuters


http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1530613863/136#136
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Rueters reports at least 6 boys have left the cave
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Agnes wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:36pm:
Rueters report 6 boys have left the cave


Schmedia   Smiley  Smiley
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Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:37pm:
Agnes wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:36pm:
Rueters report 6 boys have left the cave


Schmedia   Smiley  Smiley

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Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:31pm:
From here

I posted this, Aussie deleted the section highlighted and then said the source was unamed

Two kids are out. They are currently at the field hospital near the cave," Tossathep Boonthong, chief of the health department in Chiang Rai in northern Thailand, told Reuters


http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1530613863/136#136

a very oily snakey thing to do
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Agnes wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:38pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:37pm:
Agnes wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:36pm:
Rueters report 6 boys have left the cave


Schmedia   Smiley  Smiley

yes filthy snake oil salesmen


You need to wait!

CHIANG RAI, Thailand (Reuters) - Six of 12 schoolboys have been rescued so far from a flooded Thai cave after divers launched a daring and dangerous mission to free the children and their soccer coach, who were trapped underground for more than two weeks, Thai officials said.
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Reply #156 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:42pm
 
Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:39pm:
Agnes wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:38pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:37pm:
Agnes wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:36pm:
Rueters report 6 boys have left the cave


Schmedia   Smiley  Smiley

yes filthy snake oil salesmen


You need to wait!

CHIANG RAI, Thailand (Reuters) - Six of 12 schoolboys have been rescued so far from a flooded Thai cave after divers launched a daring and dangerous mission to free the children and their soccer coach, who were trapped underground for more than two weeks, Thai officials said.


Fake news, there were no children in there. They were holidaying in Hawaii.

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at least 6 have left the cave

https://iview.abc.net.au/show/abc-news-24


but we have to wait !!!!
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Reply #158 - Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:12am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 7:30pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 6:37pm:
sarah hansen young says all men are rapists.
the childcare loons wish to ban little boys playing with toy guns or plastic swords.

"toxic masculinity" is what the left see.

and yet here we see the true "noble masculinity".

a thai seal already has "laid down his life".

and, it would appear every person going into the cave to do this noble work is of the masculine persuasion.

we can also look at these noble boys and their coach showing stoicism, courage and perseverence.

masculinity isnt about rape culture and destruction.

it is about bearing the burden without complaint.

i doubt these seals are in some seal union, whining about getting penalty rates for working overtime.

they are acting in a spirit of contribution and moving forward with nobility.

people like SHY and her millions of virtue signalling , bed wetting, white knights and associated man hating leftie intellectuals would do well to watch theses noble men going about their work.

hope theses brave men get these brave boys out.

life is harsh
nature is relentless.

move forward with nobility


No, she doesn't.




LOL.

sarah is raw emotional energy.
if she had a good man in her life, these emotional winds would dissipate as they blew against his rock solid core confidence.
but alas, she is surrounded by more erratic emotional energy...uncalibrated weepers and virtue signallers.

but this thailand tale is an "archethypal story" (look up carl jung if you want to know about archetypal stories.

Jung said that archetypal stories "grip us" because they are deeply rooted in the narrative (oral tradition) that is at our core.

and , it is quite obvious that the world is "gripped by this story".

it is steeped in hero mythology.
the hero,(the rescuers and to some extent the boys) goes deep into the cave (where the reptiles and dragons are).
he goes in with his calm assertive energy.
he overcomes his fears and in doing so , he expands himself as a person.
the boys too , suffered but without squealing and without complaint.
they didnt play the victim (the leftie game)
when they got on the phone, they didnt tell their paretns to contact "gordon and slater lawyers" (the leftie game).  they looked after each other. they remained calm. they mastered their emotions (something a green senator will never do)

these mythological stories are what enabled humans to "move forward" and "conquer chaos".
they are the remedy for chaos.


the modern left want to create a utopia where fat steve and fat janeen can sit around and be looked after because, because...well just because.
the lefts story is doomed to failure.
if you dont rise to the evolutionary pressure, then you cannot move forward as an individual and the society cannot move forward as a collective.

as the left have tried , at every turn , to get rid of this pressure, they have made people weak soft selfish and entitled. they have made them emotionally labile and prone to negative emotions.

it is time for the hero mythology of the noble man to be made front and centre again.

we have inklings of this in our political system.
it appears society is waking up to the pox that is the weak , virtue signalling , weak man

and not  a moment too soon.

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Reply #159 - Jul 9th, 2018 at 8:10am
 
Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:26pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:23pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:20pm:
Aussie, why did you alter my quote?

This is what I posted which included the name of the thai official.  You deleted it then said the official was un named.

Are you a compulsive liar?

Two kids are out. They are currently at the field hospital near the cave," Tossathep Boonthong, chief of the health department in Chiang Rai in northern Thailand, told Reuters


You'll have to point it out, I can't see it.



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aussie would have had you banned by now... thats how he rolls...

who's Turdo btw?
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I can't find a story that has any more that
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President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 8:12am:
I can't find a story that has any more that
4
out from within the last hour of latest news...  Undecided



thats what I am getting as well....only 4....I seem to have been holding my breath forever.....not a lot of news coming out of there.....we can only pray the rain holds off.......

remember Diver?  how they would all have to stand back in silence while the water poured down.........excruciating  !!!!
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Reply #162 - Jul 9th, 2018 at 8:37am
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 8:10am:
Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:26pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:23pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:20pm:
Aussie, why did you alter my quote?

This is what I posted which included the name of the thai official.  You deleted it then said the official was un named.

Are you a compulsive liar?

Two kids are out. They are currently at the field hospital near the cave," Tossathep Boonthong, chief of the health department in Chiang Rai in northern Thailand, told Reuters


You'll have to point it out, I can't see it.



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aussie would have had you banned by now... thats how he rolls...

who's Turdo btw?



why do you bother with someone like that?

someone who thinks a thread like this is a time to bellyache  against a media he dislikes... .. he wants all the attention instead of giving it too these boys.....

lets all focus on aussie    Cheesy Angry Angry Angry

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Reply #163 - Jul 9th, 2018 at 9:42am
 

I heard one report that 6 boys had been moved.

Four made it all the way out, and two were at the half-way point.

Only heard it once, and it was about 5:30 this morning.

Can't remember what "news" service it was.

It might have been a mistake, or they might be keeping something from us.

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Agnes wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:36pm:
Rueters reports at least 6 boys have left the cave

they at first said  6 then revised it down to 4- so 4 out safely and a navy seal diver lost his life as well-
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the Navy Seal died before the rescue started agnes...his air supply  failed...... maybe they have to take a break  as they need two divers for each child...and it takes 5 hours to reach the cave,.....a magnificent job they are doing....
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cods wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 9:46am:
the Navy Seal died before the rescue started agnes...his air supply  failed...... maybe they have to take a break  as they need two divers for each child...and it takes 5 hours to reach the cave,.....a magnificent job they are doing....

   I didnt have details on the diver Cods- thanks for that-  this rescue is a simply amazing example of the human spirit -
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They are coming out with all of the back stories now...

One of the boys and his 14 yo girlfriend had a couple of massive blues before he went into the caves..

She said it was too dangerous due to the monsoon 🌧 season ... 🤔
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They are coming out with all of the back stories now...

One of the boys and his 14 yo girlfriend had a couple of massive blues before he went into the caves..

She said it was too dangerous due to the monsoon 🌧 season ... 🤔


That coach should be charged with endangering the lives of others !
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Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 11:17am:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 11:04am:
They are coming out with all of the back stories now...

One of the boys and his 14 yo girlfriend had a couple of massive blues before he went into the caves..

She said it was too dangerous due to the monsoon 🌧 season ... 🤔


That coach should be charged with endangering the lives of others !

at the very least- but he is only young (( 25))- but that isn't an excuse for abandoning commonsense
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Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:45pm:
cods wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:33pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 5:30pm:
How did they get stuck in the cave to a point where they could not get out? Did they do a visit, it started raining, and they could not go back?




where have you been????????

we will find out more when they are rescued......lets wait till then    get them out first..


Unsub hasn't heard any news as he's been stuck in a cave.


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everyone resting up atm- but here is an article on the 53 yr old aussie Doctor who joined the divers in the rescue-  very nice

https://au.news.yahoo.com/aussie-doctor-made-call-boys-leave-thai-cave-022953718...
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thats so cool   so brave.....the rescue will recommence soon  [our time.] .. they have to refill the bottles  and probably check every bit of gear.....its an amazing effort all round......

havent heard how the weather is....
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 7:30pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 6:37pm:
sarah hansen young says all men are rapists.
the childcare loons wish to ban little boys playing with toy guns or plastic swords.

"toxic masculinity" is what the left see.

and yet here we see the true "noble masculinity".

a thai seal already has "laid down his life".

and, it would appear every person going into the cave to do this noble work is of the masculine persuasion.

we can also look at these noble boys and their coach showing stoicism, courage and perseverence.

masculinity isnt about rape culture and destruction.

it is about bearing the burden without complaint.

i doubt these seals are in some seal union, whining about getting penalty rates for working overtime.

they are acting in a spirit of contribution and moving forward with nobility.

people like SHY and her millions of virtue signalling , bed wetting, white knights and associated man hating leftie intellectuals would do well to watch theses noble men going about their work.

hope theses brave men get these brave boys out.

life is harsh
nature is relentless.

move forward with nobility


No, she doesn't.



Yes she did.

She called men pigs & morons who should stop raping & murdering women.

She got taken to task for her misandry & then didn't like it ... eyeballed the person & got told to f*#k off.

So she should of been told .... she is an idiot.

All you do sticking up for her stupidity is put yourself in the same category.

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Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:12pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:08pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:54pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:49pm:
Agnes wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:36pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:31pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 10:26pm:
Confirmed by whom?  Where are the pics?  Why the rush?

Wait.


Pics or it didn't happen!?

not you too- ? dont follow aussie he has known to be wrong many times- they are receiving medical treatment and read that lnk- i have seen them in the 24 news footage- put the cans down and concentrate


I was questioning his "pics or it didn't happen" stance.


I know you were.

But this is typical of schmedia snake oil the gullible and willing swallow:

Quote:
chief of the health department in Chiang Rai in northern Thailand, told Reuters


An un-named person occupying a generalised 'chief' position somewhere 'told' Reuters.

In other words... hearsay and not confirmed.

Wait.


Seeing as the information is coming from the Thai govt it's safe to assume what they say is true. The world is watching, the world has sent help, I doubt they are fibbing. No need to wait, some are coming out.


Did you notice how aussie altered my quote, deleted the name of the Thai official then went on to say the official was un named?  Wonder why he did that?


There's someone else in here that has a propensity for that sort of behaviour.

Oink Oink ring a bell  Grin
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Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:20pm:
Aussie, why did you alter my quote?

This is what I posted which included the name of the thai official.  You deleted it then said the official was un named.

Are you a compulsive liar?

Two kids are out. They are currently at the field hospital near the cave," Tossathep Boonthong, chief of the health department in Chiang Rai in northern Thailand, told Reuters


You'll have to point it out, I can't see it.


I saw the alteration .. guilty as charged your honour.
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this is about 8 more kids and their coach stuck underground for more than two weeks..

can you people take your infighting elsewhere thank you...

we have heard it all before  and I for one am sick of it..

relationships is a good place for it...
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President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 8:10am:
Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:26pm:
Setanta wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:23pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:20pm:
Aussie, why did you alter my quote?

This is what I posted which included the name of the thai official.  You deleted it then said the official was un named.

Are you a compulsive liar?

Two kids are out. They are currently at the field hospital near the cave," Tossathep Boonthong, chief of the health department in Chiang Rai in northern Thailand, told Reuters


You'll have to point it out, I can't see it.



Wink



aussie would have had you banned by now... thats how he rolls...

who's Turdo btw?


Aussie I believe.
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this is about 8 more kids and their coach stuck underground for more than two weeks..

can you people take your infighting elsewhere thank you...

we have heard it all before  and I for one am sick of it..

relationships is a good place for it...


I'm well aware of the intent of this post .. & I didn't start the rot

& if he posts that bs here I will respond as I see fit.

Thanks for the reprimand Grandma.  Tongue
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Gnads wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:16pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 7:30pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jul 8th, 2018 at 6:37pm:
sarah hansen young says all men are rapists.
the childcare loons wish to ban little boys playing with toy guns or plastic swords.

"toxic masculinity" is what the left see.

and yet here we see the true "noble masculinity".

a thai seal already has "laid down his life".

and, it would appear every person going into the cave to do this noble work is of the masculine persuasion.

we can also look at these noble boys and their coach showing stoicism, courage and perseverence.

masculinity isnt about rape culture and destruction.

it is about bearing the burden without complaint.

i doubt these seals are in some seal union, whining about getting penalty rates for working overtime.

they are acting in a spirit of contribution and moving forward with nobility.

people like SHY and her millions of virtue signalling , bed wetting, white knights and associated man hating leftie intellectuals would do well to watch theses noble men going about their work.

hope theses brave men get these brave boys out.

life is harsh
nature is relentless.

move forward with nobility


No, she doesn't.



Yes she did.

She called men pigs & morons who should stop raping & murdering women.

She got taken to task for her misandry & then didn't like it ... eyeballed the person & got told to f*#k off.

So she should of been told .... she is an idiot.

All you do sticking up for her stupidity is put yourself in the same category.

Pull you head out Peccar.



No, she didn't.

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Yep I was right ... you're the same type of individual.

And stop altering my posts.

You should be in line to get a holiday with Aussie.
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everyone resting up atm- but here is an article on the 53 yr old aussie Doctor who joined the divers in the rescue-  very nice

https://au.news.yahoo.com/aussie-doctor-made-call-boys-leave-thai-cave-022953718...

This is Dr Harris from  Adelaide SA- he has been included again in the 2nd round of rescue attempts today- they hope to have the rest of the boys out in 8 hours or tonight at least- so- hopefully tonight- the wait is slooow and frustrating - keep everything crossed- so proud of the efforts of all Aussies involved


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breaking
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any more news???....please say there is some good news..

  Yes cods another one out- thats five now- most will come out tonight-
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yes... Groggy now has over 77,000 posts and he's still the same arsehole as he was in post Number one...

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yes... Groggy now has over 77,000 posts and he's still the same arsehole as he was in post Number one...

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cods wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 12:40pm:
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cods wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 12:40pm:
any more news???....please say there is some good news..

  Yes cods another one out- thats five now- most will come out tonight-



Even after getting out they're still not safe -
there are deadly diseases in the caves that
can get into their lungs & kill them.

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Agnes wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 8:30pm:
cods wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 12:40pm:
any more news???....please say there is some good news..

  Yes cods another one out- thats five now- most will come out tonight-



Even after getting out they're still not safe -
there are deadly diseases in the caves that
can get into their lungs & kill them.

They might need special antibiotics.


I hate caves. Yuck.
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But they would have breathed in bat droppings that can contain many deadly diseases.
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Agnes wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 9:07pm:
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But they would have breathed in bat droppings that can contain many deadly diseases.


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Agnes wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 9:07pm:
as long as they get out- the Drs can sort out the rest



But they would have breathed in bat droppings that can contain many deadly diseases.


That's terrible! They should have left them in there!



That's why they are being held in isolation.
Maybe they could have infectious diseases including a deadly virus.
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Agnes wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 9:07pm:
as long as they get out- the Drs can sort out the rest



But they would have breathed in bat droppings that can contain many deadly diseases.


That's terrible! They should have left them in there!


If the schmedia hadn't reported it the volunteer divers would never have responded and they'd still be there today.

Furk off schmedia  Smiley  Smiley
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Setanta wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 9:44pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 9:11pm:
Agnes wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 9:07pm:
as long as they get out- the Drs can sort out the rest



But they would have breathed in bat droppings that can contain many deadly diseases.


That's terrible! They should have left them in there!



That's why they are being held in isolation.
Maybe they could have infectious diseases including a deadly virus.






https://edition.cnn.com/2018/07/08/health/thai-soccer-team-health-impact/index.h...


The hospital also issued a statement, saying the "next step is to make sure those kids and their families are safe because living in a cave has a different environment, which might contain animals that could transmit any disease."
"Anyone that has had contact with the boys, including their close family, will be closely monitored to make sure they are disease free," the hospital said. "They have been informed to call the disease control hot line ... if they have symptoms such as headaches, nausea, muscle plain, or difficulties breathing."
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Total 8 rescued to date


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a wonderful story of "hero mythology".
this is why it taps into something deep in our pysche.

now watch the post modern intellectuals

1  call for the coach to be charged
2  have a small army of psychologists ready to make the boys feel 'weak and vulnerable", when they should be paraded before the adoring masses and given medals to make them feel "strong and powerful"
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a wonderful story of "hero mythology".
this is why it taps into something deep in our pysche.

now watch the post modern intellectuals

1  call for the coach to be charged
2  have a small army of psychologists ready to make the boys feel 'weak and vulnerable", when they should be paraded before the adoring masses and given medals to make them feel "strong and powerful"


whats happened has happened.. let it be a warning to others..

Celebrate the successes and move on..

did the diving team have to have a 50% Female ratio in the group with people employed to make sure they get equal pay?  Undecided

was there even one female volunteer that helped in the rescue apart from the ones sending truckloads of thoughts and prayers?
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yes thank you spot   its very enlightening...

shows me how brave those little boys are.....no way could I do that....to think they cant swim  are weak as hell....... all credit to those divers...I am in awe!!!

I watched the diver and Bullimore rescues  on the edge of my seat......this is up  there..

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a wonderful story of "hero mythology".
this is why it taps into something deep in our pysche.

now watch the post modern intellectuals

1  call for the coach to be charged
2  have a small army of psychologists ready to make the boys feel 'weak and vulnerable", when they should be paraded before the adoring masses and given medals to make them feel "strong and powerful"



I trust with all my heart you are so wrong..

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aquascoot wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 7:33am:
a wonderful story of "hero mythology".
this is why it taps into something deep in our pysche.

now watch the post modern intellectuals

1  call for the coach to be charged
2  have a small army of psychologists ready to make the boys feel 'weak and vulnerable", when they should be paraded before the adoring masses and given medals to make them feel "strong and powerful"


First thing you have ever posted that I agree with. 

Reading this Thread has been a bit of a revelation.  It seems some people reckon that we all do not have access to the same schmedia reports they do, and there is a race to be the first to post about it here, even using the 'breaking' introduction.

For some, their posts suggest there is some sort of vicarious voyerurism involved.

Is this about observers getting some sort of personal vindication/gratification/justification by coat tailing on the lives and efforts of others?

I still have not got a good grip on what they are doing to make themselves the best most worthy clappers.

It might well be me. I have never been into heroes.....people who simply do their job, or something they love doing for their own satisfaction.

Is this truly 'trauma porn,' and we all are supposed to get off because the 7th Cavalry arrives to do its job?

It's as though they cannot wait to either beat their breasts if there is a death, or to claim personal ownership of any success.

There is something to this, beyond 'trauma porn,' or 'train wreck' gawking. There are people who make this very personal to them, when in fact....nothing they say or do will have any impact whatsoever on success or otherwise, yet they rabbit on desperately wanting some recognition for their personal cheerleading and emotional outpouring.

I do not get it. Might be just a quirk in me, but is how I see it.

I, just like everyone, hope it all turns out well for those trapped and those who are rescuing. That's it. End of emotional commitment.

Some bugger has died.....and he is now not now even mentioned.

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Reply #205 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:38am
 

How imagery and media coverage influence our empathy for strangers

Footage of 12 boys trapped in a cave system in Thailand has inundated our screens in recent days.

An international rescue effort is under way, which includes a team of specialists sent by the Australian government to assist with the safe recovery of the young soccer team. Highlighting the gravity of the situation, a former Thai Navy diver has died after running out of oxygen during rescue efforts.

This is without doubt a frightening situation for the boys and their families. It’s no surprise the situation has received global media attention. Though it does raise some interesting questions about how we extend empathy and concern to people we don’t know.

Why does this tragedy capture the world’s attention, when more long-term issues such as children in detention don’t to the same extent? Research from moral psychology can help us to understand this.

A picture is worth a thousand words

A key reason is simply that we can see the Thai soccer team. We’re watching the rescue effort play out, and we can see the emotions of the boys and their families.

We have seen this kind of viral, blanket coverage of tragic incidents recently. For example, the horrific scenes of children fighting for their lives after the 2017 chemical weapon attacks in Syria. Or the striking image that emerged in June of a small Honduran girl crying as her mother is detained by officials at the US-Mexico border.

By contrast, issues that are arguably no less frightening don’t always generate the same outpouring of concern and sympathy. For example, the more than 200 children held in detention on Nauru and throughout the Australian mainland.

This isn’t to suggest the Australian government shouldn’t aid in international rescue efforts, but we should be equally concerned about the far greater number of children being held indefinitely in Australian detention.

The fact is we have very little access to images of children in detention, as media access to Manus Island and Nauru is heavily restricted. For example, journalists face substantial obstacles if they want to visit our offshore detention centres, and in 2016 the Australian government threatened health-care workers with jail time if they spoke about the conditions they encountered on Nauru and Manus.

We simply aren’t permitted to view the plight of child refugees, and we’re much less likely to experience an empathic response if we can’t see them.

The recent outcry caused by the dramatic footage aboard an Australian live export ship illustrates this perfectly. Most of us would be aware to some extent live export is a cruel practice. But it isn’t until the footage forces us to confront the realities that we create enough momentum to discuss meaningful change.

Time and perspective matters

The perspective we take also makes a huge difference. If we can easily draw comparisons between ourselves and those in need we’re more likely to extend concern and empathy.

Given Australia’s geography and climate, it’s not too difficult for us to imagine our children caught up in a natural disaster. It’s much more difficult for us to imagine our children fleeing their homeland and seeking asylum in a foreign country.

And it’s far easier to extend sympathy to a situation that, one way or another, will reach an end.

Ongoing humanitarian issues such as asylum seekers or food shortages on the African continent feel like immense challenges often placed in the too hard basket. Therefore, these issues fade away in the face of what we consider more pressing matters with more straightforward resolutions.

Language is crucial

The labels we attach are also crucial in determining our response.

For example, in 2016, then prime minister, Tony Abbott referred to asylum seekers as an invading force.

This sort of language is incredibly damaging, because when trying to make sense of a moral injustice we immediately look to identify both a victim and a villain. Suffering without a villain doesn’t always make sense to us – though the villains we choose are often subjective.

There is some fascinating research demonstrating this. For example, throughout the US, belief in God is highest in states where citizens experience the greatest amount of suffering – infant mortality, cancer deaths, natural disasters. This relationship holds after controlling for a range of alternative explanations, such as income and education. God is perceived to be the “villain” responsible for all this senseless suffering.

It’s impossible to label those suffering at the hands of a chemical attack as anything but victims. However, if we perceive asylum seekers as wrongdoers trying to steal some sort of unfair advantage, we’re far less likely to think of them as victims requiring our compassion, meaning it’s far easier to cast them out of our moral circle.

Do we have a moral responsibility to think differently?

Of course we should have sympathy for the soccer team trapped in the cave. But no matter the outcome, the story will disappear from our screens as the next pressing crisis arises.

We should ensure the reality of longer-term problems doesn’t also disappear, having fallen victim to the failings of our moral cognition.

https://theconversation.com/how-imagery-and-media-coverage-influence-our-empathy...
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Reply #206 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:48am
 
ah, see gweg, thats where the left and myself differ.

i see these boys as heroic figures.
its not really about compassion , so much as pride in what humans can endure.'its an inspirational story.

the leftist media (and i presume" the conversation " is part of the leftist ABC) see this story not as one of inspiration and heroic endeavour. they see it more as one of compassion and hand wringing.

and then they ask (quite wrongly in my mind), why australians arent as gripped by the stories of the kids in detention on Naru.

because thats a sad weepie sooky butt hurt cry baby story and these boys are a strong inspirational brave courageous story.

they are totally different and the fact that one draws in the world and one does not is evidence that we NEED inspirational heroic stories to make us brave enough to "move forward".
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Reply #207 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:58am
 
aquascoot wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:48am:
ah, see gweg, thats where the left and myself differ.

i see these boys as heroic figures.
its not really about compassion , so much as pride in what humans can endure.'its an inspirational story.

the leftist media (and i presume" the conversation " is part of the leftist ABC) see this story not as one of inspiration and heroic endeavour. they see it more as one of compassion and hand wringing.

and then they ask (quite wrongly in my mind), why australians arent as gripped by the stories of the kids in detention on Naru.

because thats a sad weepie sooky butt hurt cry baby story and these boys are a strong inspirational brave courageous story.

they are totally different and the fact that one draws in the world and one does not is evidence that we NEED inspirational heroic stories to make us brave enough to "move forward".


Also the kids and their parents can leave Naru anytime they like.


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Reply #208 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 11:00am
 
Well I am not the only person who thinks it is all too beautiful, like Itchycoo Park.

Those haters that harp on about how many thousands and thousands of starving kids could have been saved with a fraction of the money that has been spent on this story are stupid.
Everybody knows that it means NOTHING to just care for people in extremis.
It means everything to be SEEN caring.
If those other kids are too stupid to starve without TV coverage, well firk them, they're just third rate losers. Well, third world corpses by now.

But forget that, on to more important things,  THE MOVIE!!!!, and WHO???? is going to play the lead diver whp dies, and WHO??? plays his heart broken wife? Brad and Jen??? (it could lead to a reunion, GOLD) It is gonna be
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Reply #209 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 11:08am
 
aquascoot wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:48am:
ah, see gweg, thats where the left and myself differ.

i see these boys as heroic figures.
its not really about compassion , so much as pride in what humans can endure.'its an inspirational story.

the leftist media (and i presume" the conversation " is part of the leftist ABC) see this story not as one of inspiration and heroic endeavour. they see it more as one of compassion and hand wringing.

and then they ask (quite wrongly in my mind), why australians arent as gripped by the stories of the kids in detention on Naru.

because thats a sad weepie sooky butt hurt cry baby story and these boys are a strong inspirational brave courageous story.

they are totally different and the fact that one draws in the world and one does not is evidence that we NEED inspirational heroic stories to make us brave enough to "move forward".


What do you think of the "inspirational heroes" fighting without a spotlight for the safety and welfare of children in detention?


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Reply #210 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 11:16am
 
Aussie wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:09am:
aquascoot wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 7:33am:
a wonderful story of "hero mythology".
this is why it taps into something deep in our pysche.

now watch the post modern intellectuals

1  call for the coach to be charged
2  have a small army of psychologists ready to make the boys feel 'weak and vulnerable", when they should be paraded before the adoring masses and given medals to make them feel "strong and powerful"


First thing you have ever posted that I agree with. 

Reading this Thread has been a bit of a revelation.  It seems some people reckon that we all do not have access to the same schmedia reports they do, and there is a race to be the first to post about it here, even using the 'breaking' introduction.

For some, their posts suggest there is some sort of vicarious voyerurism involved.

Is this about observers getting some sort of personal vindication/gratification/justification by coat tailing on the lives and efforts of others?

I still have not got a good grip on what they are doing to make themselves the best most worthy clappers.

It might well be me. I have never been into heroes.....people who simply do their job, or something they love doing for their own satisfaction.

Is this truly 'trauma porn,' and we all are supposed to get off because the 7th Cavalry arrives to do its job?

It's as though they cannot wait to either beat their breasts if there is a death, or to claim personal ownership of any success.

There is something to this, beyond 'trauma porn,' or 'train wreck' gawking. There are people who make this very personal to them, when in fact....nothing they say or do will have any impact whatsoever on success or otherwise, yet they rabbit on desperately wanting some recognition for their personal cheerleading and emotional outpouring.

I do not get it. Might be just a quirk in me, but is how I see it.

I, just like everyone, hope it all turns out well for those trapped and those who are rescuing. That's it. End of emotional commitment.

Some bugger has died.....and he is now not now even mentioned.



I have been reminded of another possible aspect of this.  Is it true that some people are only able to get behind something that has an immediate resolution? The backing of safe horses, as it were?
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Reply #211 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 12:54pm
 
Gordon wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:58am:
aquascoot wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:48am:
ah, see gweg, thats where the left and myself differ.

i see these boys as heroic figures.
its not really about compassion , so much as pride in what humans can endure.'its an inspirational story.

the leftist media (and i presume" the conversation " is part of the leftist ABC) see this story not as one of inspiration and heroic endeavour. they see it more as one of compassion and hand wringing.

and then they ask (quite wrongly in my mind), why australians arent as gripped by the stories of the kids in detention on Naru.

because thats a sad weepie sooky butt hurt cry baby story and these boys are a strong inspirational brave courageous story.

they are totally different and the fact that one draws in the world and one does not is evidence that we NEED inspirational heroic stories to make us brave enough to "move forward".


Also the kids and their parents can leave Naru anytime they like.




Naru?  Nauru.

Where will they go if they leave?

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Reply #212 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 12:58pm
 
Where can they go if they were allowed off.  How do they get there, assuming there is a place they can go to?
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Aussie wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 12:58pm:
Where can they go if they were allowed off.  How do they get there, assuming there is a place they can go to?


I think Gordon is just gathering the information now.

Gordon?

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Let me get this straight: you're suggesting that asylum seekers go home?

Just out of curiosity, do you know what an asylum seeker is?

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Okay, why is Julie Bishop giving interviews regarding the boys in the cave?

WTF does it have to do with her?    Undecided
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Reply #217 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:06pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:03pm:
Okay, why is Julie Bishop giving interviews regarding the boys in the cave?

WTF does it have to do with her?    Undecided

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Reply #218 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:09pm
 
Agnes wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:06pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:03pm:
Okay, why is Julie Bishop giving interviews regarding the boys in the cave?

WTF does it have to do with her?    Undecided

everytime I see her face- it makes me sick- was wondering the same-  grr cant stand her


I thought I was hearing things yesterday when I heard her voice on the "news" discussing the boys (I was making dinner, and wasn't actually watching the TV).

However, I just looked now and there she is again, talking about the boys' rescue.

WTF does this have to do with Julie smacking Bishop?   Angry
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yes I agree- 








TEN boys out now
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Agnes wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:10pm:
yes I agree-  TEN boys out now


Yep, just two to go, and the coach - great news!

I'm really scratching my head here, though, trying to figure out how Julie Bishop got involved in this.


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11 out.

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greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:20pm:
11 out.



It will be nicely symbolic if the last man out is the Coach.
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11 out.


Yes saw that - -
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Reply #224 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:33pm
 
Agnes wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:29pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:20pm:
11 out.


Yes saw that - -


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Aussie wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:29pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:20pm:
11 out.



It will be nicely symbolic if the last man out is the Coach.


The doctor will be the last one out.

It would be nice if they could put Julie Bishop in there, in his place.

Seriously - why is she giving interviews about this on TV?

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Reply #226 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:44pm
 
Just turn it off greg. Best thing to do.

I have not followed this anywhere except here.
Great story but I get my info from this thread. I hate all the media crap in these situations. People coming out of the woodwork to "add their 2 bob". People who are so far detached from the real world they have no idea what they're on about.
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Captain Caveman wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:44pm:
Just turn it off greg. Best thing to do.

I have not followed this anywhere except here.
Great story but I get my info from this thread. I hate all the media crap in these situations. People coming out of the woodwork to "add their 2 bob". People who are so far detached from the real world they have no idea what they're on about.


Agreed.

And I've done just that.

Bishop was the last straw for me.



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greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:39pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:29pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:20pm:
11 out.



It will be nicely symbolic if the last man out is the Coach.


The doctor will be the last one out.

It would be nice if they could put Julie Bishop in there, in his place.

Seriously - why is she giving interviews about this on TV?



I had that typed....and then decided....nah.  Captain is last man off the sinking ship.  That is what the Thais will go for.....not some grandstandiong for a Doctor who did what he loves doing and has been doing for 30 years.  I reckon even the Doctor would reject the idea as wrong.  He is no hero, and neither is the Coach.  Captain last off the ship, is my bet, especially given the Captain is Thai.

Hope so anyway.

We'll crucify him later.
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Thai cave rescue: 11th boy emerges, reports say boys were sedated...

Thai English-language news site Khaosod English is citing a source as saying that doctors administered anti-anxiety medication before the boys began their dive and that the reason why it is taking time for them to emerge from the cave is because they need to revive them fully.


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Thai cave rescue: 11th boy emerges, reports say boys were sedated...

would have  been terrifying ordeal for young boys so would have been needed-
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Aussie wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:50pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:39pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:29pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:20pm:
11 out.



It will be nicely symbolic if the last man out is the Coach.


The doctor will be the last one out.

It would be nice if they could put Julie Bishop in there, in his place.

Seriously - why is she giving interviews about this on TV?



I had that typed....and then decided....nah.  Captain is last man off the sinking ship.  That is what the Thais will go for.....not some grandstandiong for a Doctor who did what he loves doing and has been doing for 30 years.  I reckon even the Doctor would reject the idea as wrong.  He is no hero, and neither is the Coach.  Captain last off the ship, is my bet, especially given the Captain is Thai.

Hope so anyway.

We'll crucify him later.

  The doctor did an amazing job and 30 years experience or not and wether he loved diving for the last 30 years or not- he is now a hero and deservedly so- I am immensley proud of him
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Thai cave rescue: 11th boy emerges, reports say boys were sedated...

Thai English-language news site Khaosod English is citing a source as saying that doctors administered anti-anxiety medication before the boys began their dive and that the reason why it is taking time for them to emerge from the cave is because they need to revive them fully.


whatever works...  Smiley


Yep.

I said from the beginning that drugs would be a good idea.

Someone else suggested it first, though - can't remember who.

I would have needed 4 Valium to get through that ordeal.

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Thai cave rescue: 11th boy emerges, reports say boys were sedated...

Thai English-language news site Khaosod English is citing a source as saying that doctors administered anti-anxiety medication before the boys began their dive and that the reason why it is taking time for them to emerge from the cave is because they need to revive them fully.


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Should have just told a few Catholic priests if they get tjem out they can keep them. They'd all be out days ago.
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President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:59pm:
Thai cave rescue: 11th boy emerges, reports say boys were sedated...

would have  been terrifying ordeal for young boys so would have been needed-


yeah when people are drowning they become unhinged and can pull you under... they must be shitting themselves so sedation would work..

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This is what schits me.  If the bloke was Russian, we'd not see it posted.

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The doctor did an amazing job and 30 years experience or not and wether he loved diving for the last 30 years or not- he is now a hero and deservedly so- I am immensley proud of him


What was amazing?  What heroic thing did he do?  Why proud?

Being an Aussie doing what is his passion and day job is none of that.

Crap, Agnes.

You will not get meaning and purpose into your life by coat tailing what happens in the real World.

I just cannot fathom that.  I am yet to work it out.
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lee wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 9:10pm:
All out.


im still only seeing 11 out..

are you sure it wasn't Bullshitten turning up last minute for a photo opportunity?
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President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:59pm:
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Thai English-language news site Khaosod English is citing a source as saying that doctors administered anti-anxiety medication before the boys began their dive and that the reason why it is taking time for them to emerge from the cave is because they need to revive them fully.


whatever works...  Smiley


Yep.

I said from the beginning that drugs would be a good idea.

Someone else suggested it first, though - can't remember who.

I would have needed 4 Valium to get through that ordeal.



Valuim is good because it reduces vertigo and nausea which would be an issue with cave diving. It also surpresses the gag reflex from the regulator.
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Aussie wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 9:16pm:
This is what schits me.  If the bloke was Russian, we'd not see it posted.

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The doctor did an amazing job and 30 years experience or not and wether he loved diving for the last 30 years or not- he is now a hero and deservedly so- I am immensley proud of him


What was amazing?  What heroic thing did he do?  Why proud?

Being an Aussie doing what is his passion and day job is none of that.

Crap, Agnes.

You will not get meaning and purpose into your life by coat tailing what happens in the real World.

I just cannot fathom that.  I am yet to work it out.


just shut the **** up blowhard...

you've never achieved anything in your pathetic life apart for pissing people off...

if all you are going to do is grandstand on the backs of these kids then just pull the plug on your computer and give everyone a break.. ffs...  Roll Eyes
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This is what schits me.  If the bloke was Russian, we'd not see it posted.

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The doctor did an amazing job and 30 years experience or not and wether he loved diving for the last 30 years or not- he is now a hero and deservedly so- I am immensley proud of him


What was amazing?  What heroic thing did he do?  Why proud?

Being an Aussie doing what is his passion and day job is none of that.

Crap, Agnes.

You will not get meaning and purpose into your life by coat tailing what happens in the real World.

I just cannot fathom that.  I am yet to work it out.


Don't you have some turds to clean up?

Yuck
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Reply #242 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 9:23pm
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 9:06pm:
Agnes wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 9:02pm:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:59pm:
Thai cave rescue: 11th boy emerges, reports say boys were sedated...

would have  been terrifying ordeal for young boys so would have been needed-


yeah when people are drowning they become unhinged and can pull you under... they must be shitting themselves so sedation would work..

one more kid and the coach to go...

a great job by everyone involved- and I am proud of our doctor he gave up his holidays to  do this he didnt have too go there at all- some pp ( aussie ) cant get his head around the fact someone did a wonderful selfless thing and he will recieve a heroes praise and a bit of the spotlight- one has to wonder just how eaten up with jealousy one man can be- well done- everyone out ( almost) now I can click of ABC iveiw live- and sleep warm tonight knowing they are ok- and not stuck in that dark black cold cave-
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Reply #243 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 9:25pm
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 9:18pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 9:16pm:
This is what schits me.  If the bloke was Russian, we'd not see it posted.

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The doctor did an amazing job and 30 years experience or not and wether he loved diving for the last 30 years or not- he is now a hero and deservedly so- I am immensley proud of him


What was amazing?  What heroic thing did he do?  Why proud?

Being an Aussie doing what is his passion and day job is none of that.

Crap, Agnes.

You will not get meaning and purpose into your life by coat tailing what happens in the real World.

I just cannot fathom that.  I am yet to work it out.


just shut the **** up blowhard...

you've never achieved anything in your pathetic life apart for pissing people off...

if all you are going to do is grandstand on the backs of these kids then just pull the plug on your computer and give everyone a break.. ffs...  Roll Eyes


Get farqed, idiot.  Piss off back to the sewer where you are more suited.  This whole Thread is littered with posts by people who truly are grandstanding, and I am the bloke calling that out.  I want none of it.  I detest it.
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Reply #244 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 9:25pm
 
Agnes wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 9:23pm:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 9:06pm:
Agnes wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 9:02pm:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:59pm:
Thai cave rescue: 11th boy emerges, reports say boys were sedated...

would have  been terrifying ordeal for young boys so would have been needed-


yeah when people are drowning they become unhinged and can pull you under... they must be shitting themselves so sedation would work..

one more kid and the coach to go...

a great job by everyone involved- and I am proud of our doctor he gave up his holidays to  do this he didnt have too go there at all- some pp ( aussie ) cant get his head around the fact someone did a wonderful selfless thing and he will recieve a heroes praise and a bit of the spotlight- one has to wonder just how eaten up with jealousy one man can be- well done- everyone out ( almost) now I can click of ABC iveiw live- and sleep warm tonight knowing they are ok- and not stuck in that dark black cold cave-


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Reply #245 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 9:28pm
 
Gordon wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 9:25pm:
Agnes wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 9:23pm:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 9:06pm:
Agnes wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 9:02pm:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:59pm:
Thai cave rescue: 11th boy emerges, reports say boys were sedated...

would have  been terrifying ordeal for young boys so would have been needed-


yeah when people are drowning they become unhinged and can pull you under... they must be shitting themselves so sedation would work..

one more kid and the coach to go...

a great job by everyone involved- and I am proud of our doctor he gave up his holidays to  do this he didnt have too go there at all- some pp ( aussie ) cant get his head around the fact someone did a wonderful selfless thing and he will recieve a heroes praise and a bit of the spotlight- one has to wonder just how eaten up with jealousy one man can be- well done- everyone out ( almost) now I can click of ABC iveiw live- and sleep warm tonight knowing they are ok- and not stuck in that dark black cold cave-


Hope he gets an OA

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Reply #246 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 9:29pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 9:25pm:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 9:18pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 9:16pm:
This is what schits me.  If the bloke was Russian, we'd not see it posted.

Quote:
The doctor did an amazing job and 30 years experience or not and wether he loved diving for the last 30 years or not- he is now a hero and deservedly so- I am immensley proud of him


What was amazing?  What heroic thing did he do?  Why proud?

Being an Aussie doing what is his passion and day job is none of that.

Crap, Agnes.

You will not get meaning and purpose into your life by coat tailing what happens in the real World.

I just cannot fathom that.  I am yet to work it out.


just shut the **** up blowhard...

you've never achieved anything in your pathetic life apart for pissing people off...

if all you are going to do is grandstand on the backs of these kids then just pull the plug on your computer and give everyone a break.. ffs...  Roll Eyes


Get farqed, idiot.  Piss off back to the sewer where you are more suited.  This whole Thread is littered with posts by people who truly are grandstanding, and I am the bloke calling that out.  I want none of it.  I detest it.


There must be a strawberry picker somewhere with a finger up a girls arse. Go save them. Or better still, go and put your big hand on a kids chest and pin him to a tree. Isn't that the highlight reel of your turdfilled life?
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no not still the turd sorter surely?  Grin
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no not still the turd sorter surely?  Grin


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Agnes wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 9:23pm:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 9:06pm:
Agnes wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 9:02pm:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:59pm:
Thai cave rescue: 11th boy emerges, reports say boys were sedated...

would have  been terrifying ordeal for young boys so would have been needed-


yeah when people are drowning they become unhinged and can pull you under... they must be shitting themselves so sedation would work..

one more kid and the coach to go...

a great job by everyone involved- and I am proud of our doctor he gave up his holidays to  do this he didnt have too go there at all- some pp ( aussie ) cant get his head around the fact someone did a wonderful selfless thing and he will recieve a heroes praise and a bit of the spotlight- one has to wonder just how eaten up with jealousy one man can be- well done- everyone out ( almost) now I can click of ABC iveiw live- and sleep warm tonight knowing they are ok- and not stuck in that dark black cold cave-


Rubbish.  This is not true virtue signalling, but I just can't get a grab on the right term.  It is some need to be associated with a trauma and then a solution readily offered by people doing their day job.  It is some sort of "look at me.....I am cheering more than you," weird stuff.

I will sleep tonight as well as I always do, and please Agnes don't try to tell me you have been staying awake, cold, all night and day for the last 14 or whatever days they have been doing this.

That is the very bullshit I am after. 
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Just caught up with media watch.  Paul Barry gave the Australian media coverage the thumbs up,  that's good enough for me.

I wonder why Turdo has such a big issue?
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Gordon wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 9:41pm:
Just caught up with media watch.  Paul Barry gave the Australian media coverage the thumbs up,  that's good enough for me.

I wonder why Turdo has such a big issue?


not all the media have been good boys/girls

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A foreign journalist has been detained for flying a drone near the cave entrance area, according to Thai media. On Monday the authorities complained that a journalist flew a drone above the operation.

There are also reports that some media have been listening to police radio reports. “This is really wrong,” said Narongsak Osatanakorn, the head of the joint command centre coordinating the operation.


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lee was right...

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A twelfth person has been seen being carried out of the cave, a witness has told Reuters. Once again the Guardian is trying to confirm.
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President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 9:47pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 9:41pm:
Just caught up with media watch.  Paul Barry gave the Australian media coverage the thumbs up,  that's good enough for me.

I wonder why Turdo has such a big issue?


not all the media have been good boys/girls

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A foreign journalist has been detained for flying a drone near the cave entrance area, according to Thai media. On Monday the authorities complained that a journalist flew a drone above the operation.

There are also reports that some media have been listening to police radio reports. “This is really wrong,” said Narongsak Osatanakorn, the head of the joint command centre coordinating the operation.


uh oh...


That's enviable,  but I was commenting on the Australian coverage and how they've been releasing breaking news on it. On that they got the thumbs up.

Why do you think Turdo has such a different opinion?
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probably the same reason I rarely engage with him on the forum... because he is just miserable..

listen to aquascoot - don't hang around Self loathing low vibe people.. it'll turn you into a loser as well...

hang out with energetic, high vibe, winners who always pull themselves backup again if they've had a fall...and then continue their way to success...   Smiley
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latest news - they are all out!
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probably the same reason I rarely engage with him on the forum... because he is just miserable..

listen to aquascoot - don't hang around Self loathing low vibe people.. it'll turn you into a loser as well...

hang out with energetic, high vibe, winners who always pull themselves backup again if they've had a fall...and then continue their way to success...   Smiley


He really is an ugly human being.  Just like the way he hates on the Morcombes. A really interesting insight in a very twisted mind.
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All 12 boys and their coach have been successfully freed after extraordinary rescue op

https://edition.cnn.com/asia/live-news/thai-cave-rescue-live-intl/index.html


3 min ago
Thai Navy SEALs say four divers still to come out

Thai Navy SEALs were still waiting for four divers to come out of the cave complex following the rescue of 12 boys and their soccer coach.

“All 12 wild boars and the coach have left the cave. all safe. Now waiting to receive 4 divers to come out. Hooyah," the SEALs said in a post on Facebook Tuesday.
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Great news. (Not for Turdo tho)
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Gordon wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:10pm:
Great news. (Not for Turdo tho)


aquascoot wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 9:07am:
people tend to be in low vibration energy or high vibration energy

when you are a winner, crushing it in life, feeling tons of positive emotions, you dont like having toxic people around.

a group of teenage boys, just buzzing in life, would not like to attend ,say , a socialist alliance rally where everyone is angry and playing the victim.


and likewise, if youre mindset is toxic negativity, if you are addicted to negative neurotic thoughts, if you are looking for opportunities to be triggered into feeling oppressed or being a victim, then the last thing you want is to have all these "Ra Ra, happy buzzing awesome rich successful people" creating a lot of positive emotions.

it would literally make you sick.

i think these 5 democrats would quite likely have not been able to cope with so much awesomeness .
they need to be gradually exposed to awesomeness.

their neurology is very fragile and they are safer in the shutdown mediocre mindset they currently inhabit.  aspiration would be very threatening to them. they are better off going home and watching some sad stories on the leftist media that they can wring their hands over and get back to what is familiar

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https://www.livescience.com/63018-thailand-boys-quarantined-cave-diseases.html



The rescue operation for the Thai soccer team trapped in a cave is underway, and so far, eight boys have been successfully extracted. Another four, along with the coach, remain. But before the rescued boys can finally go home to their families, they need to make a pit stop at the hospital, where they're being briefly quarantined to make sure they didn't pick up any diseases in the caves, according to news reports.

Indeed, caves can be petri dishes for bacteria and viruses.

"The big worry that you get with caves is the presence of bats," said Dr. Amesh Adalja, a senior scholar at the John Hopkins Center for Health Security in Baltimore. "We know that bats can transmit many different infectious diseases, including things like rabies." [The Very Real Risks of Rescuing the Boys Trapped in a Thai Cave]


It's unclear if the boys were exposed to bats or if this cave even has a large bat population, though most caves do. But if the doctors suspect any contact with the winged mammals, the boys will most likely get postexposure vaccinations to prevent any possible rabies infections, Adalja told Live Science.

And the bats themselves aren't always the problem — the animals can also "drop" problems all over the place.

"Certain fungi can really thrive in bat droppings," Adalja said, and inhaling these fungal spores can lead to lung infections, including cryptococcosis or histoplasmosis, which is also known as "caver's disease."

But symptoms of some of these fungal diseases might not pop up during the boys' time in quarantine, Adalja said. In some cases, it can take months or years for the fungi to cause a problem in the body; for example, symptoms may not pop up unless a person's immune system is suppressed due to another cause. In other cases, the fungal infections never cause any problems, he said.

Still, it means that later in life, the boys and the coach should be sure to tell any doctors about their time spent in the cave, as it may aid in a later diagnosis, Adalja added.

Another concern is leptospirosis, a bacterial infection that can cause bleeding in the lungs, or can even cause meningitis (inflammation in the lining of the brain and spinal cord), according to Reuters.

That said, some of the health problems the boys could develop in the caves might have less-exotic origins.

"People jump to think about the exotic stuff, but it's important to focus also on the common" stuff, Adalja said. For example, the kids could have gastrointestinal issues due to the poor sanitation in the caves. In close quarters without sanitation, it wouldn't be surprising if the boys had contact with each other's feces, he added. Furthermore, by drinking the cave water — even if they licked water dripping from the walls and didn't drink water on the ground — the boys could have contracted lots of bacteria that could also cause gastrointestinal problems. [Photos: Rescuers Race Against Time to Save Soccer Thai Trapped in Thai Cave]

There could also be small infections on the boys' skin from cuts and scrapes, he said.

Ultimately, however, there are so many unknowns, and it's difficult to predict what pathogens, if any, the boys have been exposed to, Adalja said.

Overall, the reports suggest the rescued teens are in good health and spirit — and they even requested their favorite food dishes, according to MSN.

Originally published on Live Science.
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What a great human interest story.

Kids caught in a situation that's most people's biggest nightmare and group of selfless dedicated people trying to get them out.
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What a great human interest story.

Kids caught in a situation that's most people's biggest nightmare and group of selfless dedicated people trying to get them out.



And a credit to specialists who flew from all over the world to help them.
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What a great human interest story.

Kids caught in a situation that's most people's biggest nightmare and group of selfless dedicated people trying to get them out.



And a credit to specialists who flew from all over the world to help them.


Did and indian cab drivers go and help out?
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Aren't they all out yet?
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Aren't they all out yet?



Can't you read?


They are all out except 4 of the divers.
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Agnes wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 9:23pm:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 9:06pm:
Agnes wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 9:02pm:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:59pm:
Thai cave rescue: 11th boy emerges, reports say boys were sedated...

would have  been terrifying ordeal for young boys so would have been needed-


yeah when people are drowning they become unhinged and can pull you under... they must be shitting themselves so sedation would work..

one more kid and the coach to go...

a great job by everyone involved- and I am proud of our doctor he gave up his holidays to  do this he didnt have too go there at all- some pp ( aussie ) cant get his head around the fact someone did a wonderful selfless thing and he will recieve a heroes praise and a bit of the spotlight- one has to wonder just how eaten up with jealousy one man can be- well done- everyone out ( almost) now I can click of ABC iveiw live- and sleep warm tonight knowing they are ok- and not stuck in that dark black cold cave-


Rubbish.  This is not true virtue signalling, but I just can't get a grab on the right term.  It is some need to be associated with a trauma and then a solution readily offered by people doing their day job.  It is some sort of "look at me.....I am cheering more than you," weird stuff.

I will sleep tonight as well as I always do, and please Agnes don't try to tell me you have been staying awake, cold, all night and day for the last 14 or whatever days they have been doing this.

That is the very bullshit I am after. 
No, this is something you cant possibly understand. Normal people getting emotionally involved because they desire a positive outcome. I get that you dont get it, this thread is written in a language you just dont speak. You would probably do better to just shut up than to display your personality disorder to all here.
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Gordon wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:07pm:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:02pm:
probably the same reason I rarely engage with him on the forum... because he is just miserable..

listen to aquascoot - don't hang around Self loathing low vibe people.. it'll turn you into a loser as well...

hang out with energetic, high vibe, winners who always pull themselves backup again if they've had a fall...and then continue their way to success...   Smiley


He really is an ugly human being.  Just like the way he hates on the Morcombes. A really interesting insight in a very twisted mind.
Not that interesting, but yes, an insight nonetheless.
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They should have left the coach in there to teach him a lesson.
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Bobby. wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:27pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:25pm:
What a great human interest story.

Kids caught in a situation that's most people's biggest nightmare and group of selfless dedicated people trying to get them out.



And a credit to specialists who flew from all over the world to help them.



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aquascoot wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:48am:
ah, see gweg, thats where the left and myself differ.

i see these boys as heroic figures.
its not really about compassion , so much as pride in what humans can endure.'its an inspirational story.

the leftist media (and i presume" the conversation " is part of the leftist ABC) see this story not as one of inspiration and heroic endeavour. they see it more as one of compassion and hand wringing.

and then they ask (quite wrongly in my mind), why australians arent as gripped by the stories of the kids in detention on Naru.

because thats a sad weepie sooky butt hurt cry baby story and these boys are a strong inspirational brave courageous story.

they are totally different and the fact that one draws in the world and one does not is evidence that we NEED inspirational heroic stories to make us brave enough to "move forward".


What do you think of the "inspirational heroes" fighting without a spotlight for the safety and welfare of children in detention?





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aquascoot wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 6:17am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 11:08am:
aquascoot wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:48am:
ah, see gweg, thats where the left and myself differ.

i see these boys as heroic figures.
its not really about compassion , so much as pride in what humans can endure.'its an inspirational story.

the leftist media (and i presume" the conversation " is part of the leftist ABC) see this story not as one of inspiration and heroic endeavour. they see it more as one of compassion and hand wringing.

and then they ask (quite wrongly in my mind), why australians arent as gripped by the stories of the kids in detention on Naru.

because thats a sad weepie sooky butt hurt cry baby story and these boys are a strong inspirational brave courageous story.

they are totally different and the fact that one draws in the world and one does not is evidence that we NEED inspirational heroic stories to make us brave enough to "move forward".


What do you think of the "inspirational heroes" fighting without a spotlight for the safety and welfare of children in detention?





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Apparently it's started pissing down in the area. Good timing but unfortunately it will enforce the belief that prayers were instrumental in weather control.

Also good news is that Julie Bishop has said their will be some kind of formal recognition for Richard Harris. AO I reckon!
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President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 9:18pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 9:16pm:
This is what schits me.  If the bloke was Russian, we'd not see it posted.

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The doctor did an amazing job and 30 years experience or not and wether he loved diving for the last 30 years or not- he is now a hero and deservedly so- I am immensley proud of him


What was amazing?  What heroic thing did he do?  Why proud?

Being an Aussie doing what is his passion and day job is none of that.

Crap, Agnes.

You will not get meaning and purpose into your life by coat tailing what happens in the real World.

I just cannot fathom that.  I am yet to work it out.


just shut the **** up blowhard...

you've never achieved anything in your pathetic life apart for pissing people off...

if all you are going to do is grandstand on the backs of these kids then just pull the plug on your computer and give everyone a break.. ffs...  Roll Eyes


Get farqed, idiot.  Piss off back to the sewer where you are more suited.  This whole Thread is littered with posts by people who truly are grandstanding, and I am the bloke calling that out.  I want none of it.  I detest it.



Oh so you're the hero ey?

FFS Aussie take the tickets off.
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Bobby. wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:59pm:
Grendel wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:53pm:
Aren't they all out yet?



Can't you read?


They are all out except 4 of the divers.

Then they are all out...  gee thanks Bobby.... Roll Eyes
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They should have left the coach in there to teach him a lesson.


I think he may have already learnt one don't you?
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Apparently it's started pissing down in the area. Good timing but unfortunately it will enforce the belief that prayers were instrumental in weather control.

Also good news is that Julie Bishop has said their will be some kind of formal recognition for Richard Harris. AO I reckon!


Bishop, again?

Why is she getting involved in this?

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Saw her yesterday arvo on 4 pm News....

thought ... Oh f*#k off Bishop what's it got to do with you, you grandstanding cow.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:46am:
Gordon wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:05am:
Apparently it's started pissing down in the area. Good timing but unfortunately it will enforce the belief that prayers were instrumental in weather control.

Also good news is that Julie Bishop has said their will be some kind of formal recognition for Richard Harris. AO I reckon!


Bishop, again?

Why is she getting involved in this?



Any foreign minister would be talking about this. Good on her for giving him a pat on the back.

Ms Bishop said Dr Harris is internationally renowned for his cave rescue expertise, and heads up a cave rescue operation.

She said the South Australian anaesthetist is well known to the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade for his help on their medical assistance teams during natural disasters in the Pacific region and his time working at the Port Villa hospital in Vanuatu with the Australian Aid program.

Ms Bishop said the government was "just delighted" with the work of Dr Harris and his dive parter Craig Challen, who is a vet from Perth.

"Between them, and the rest of the Australian team, I believe we were an integral part to the overall rescue," she said.
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Gordon wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:51am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:46am:
Gordon wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:05am:
Apparently it's started pissing down in the area. Good timing but unfortunately it will enforce the belief that prayers were instrumental in weather control.

Also good news is that Julie Bishop has said their will be some kind of formal recognition for Richard Harris. AO I reckon!


Bishop, again?

Why is she getting involved in this?



Any foreign minister would be talking about this. Good on her for giving him a pat on the back.

Ms Bishop said Dr Harris is internationally renowned for his cave rescue expertise, and heads up a cave rescue operation.

She said the South Australian anaesthetist is well known to the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade for his help on their medical assistance teams during natural disasters in the Pacific region and his time working at the Port Villa hospital in Vanuatu with the Australian Aid program.

Ms Bishop said the government was "just delighted" with the work of Dr Harris and his dive parter Craig Challen, who is a vet from Perth.

"Between them, and the rest of the Australian team, I believe we were an integral part to the overall rescue," she said.


Their credentials had already been given throughout reports I thought.
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Gordon wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:51am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:46am:
Gordon wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:05am:
Apparently it's started pissing down in the area. Good timing but unfortunately it will enforce the belief that prayers were instrumental in weather control.

Also good news is that Julie Bishop has said their will be some kind of formal recognition for Richard Harris. AO I reckon!


Bishop, again?

Why is she getting involved in this?



Any foreign minister would be talking about this. Good on her for giving him a pat on the back.

Ms Bishop said Dr Harris is internationally renowned for his cave rescue expertise, and heads up a cave rescue operation.

She said the South Australian anaesthetist is well known to the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade for his help on their medical assistance teams during natural disasters in the Pacific region and his time working at the Port Villa hospital in Vanuatu with the Australian Aid program.

Ms Bishop said the government was "just delighted" with the work of Dr Harris and his dive parter Craig Challen, who is a vet from Perth.

"Between them, and the rest of the Australian team, I believe we were an integral part to the overall rescue," she said.



Crap.

But I'm willing to listen to your reasoning.

Please don't tell me your argument is: "she's the foreign minister, and this happened in a foreign country".

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greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:46am:
Gordon wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:05am:
Apparently it's started pissing down in the area. Good timing but unfortunately it will enforce the belief that prayers were instrumental in weather control.

Also good news is that Julie Bishop has said their will be some kind of formal recognition for Richard Harris. AO I reckon!


Bishop, again?

Why is she getting involved in this?



Any foreign minister would be talking about this. Good on her for giving him a pat on the back.

Ms Bishop said Dr Harris is internationally renowned for his cave rescue expertise, and heads up a cave rescue operation.

She said the South Australian anaesthetist is well known to the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade for his help on their medical assistance teams during natural disasters in the Pacific region and his time working at the Port Villa hospital in Vanuatu with the Australian Aid program.

Ms Bishop said the government was "just delighted" with the work of Dr Harris and his dive parter Craig Challen, who is a vet from Perth.

"Between them, and the rest of the Australian team, I believe we were an integral part to the overall rescue," she said.

exactly    can we seriously say enough about all these guys??..seems like some have jealousy problems....

its taken imo unbelievable courage from all involved   yes even those making the decisions...... and to have outside backing validation if you like   would be of untold help I am sure....

people with negative thoughts at times like this piss me off..wish they would take them elsewhere.. Angry
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 10:04am:
Gordon wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:51am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:46am:
Gordon wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 9:05am:
Apparently it's started pissing down in the area. Good timing but unfortunately it will enforce the belief that prayers were instrumental in weather control.

Also good news is that Julie Bishop has said their will be some kind of formal recognition for Richard Harris. AO I reckon!


Bishop, again?

Why is she getting involved in this?



Any foreign minister would be talking about this. Good on her for giving him a pat on the back.

Ms Bishop said Dr Harris is internationally renowned for his cave rescue expertise, and heads up a cave rescue operation.

She said the South Australian anaesthetist is well known to the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade for his help on their medical assistance teams during natural disasters in the Pacific region and his time working at the Port Villa hospital in Vanuatu with the Australian Aid program.

Ms Bishop said the government was "just delighted" with the work of Dr Harris and his dive parter Craig Challen, who is a vet from Perth.

"Between them, and the rest of the Australian team, I believe we were an integral part to the overall rescue," she said.



Crap.

But I'm willing to listen to your reasoning.

Please don't tell me your argument is: "she's the foreign minister, and this happened in a foreign country".



Gordon?

Your argument IS "she's the foreign minister, and this happened in a foreign country", isn't it?

Oh dear   Roll Eyes
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:39pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:29pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:20pm:
11 out.



It will be nicely symbolic if the last man out is the Coach.


The doctor will be the last one out.

It would be nice if they could put Julie Bishop in there, in his place.

Seriously - why is she giving interviews about this on TV?



"The Australian doctor who was the last man out of the Thai cave following the rescue of the Wild Boars soccer team ..."

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Horrible news.

The Australian doctor's father died overnight   Cry
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Tragic for him after that great effort.
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Saw her yesterday arvo on 4 pm News....

thought ... Oh f*#k off Bishop what's it got to do with you, you grandstanding cow.


She's grandstanding yet the people here saying the same are not?  Huh?
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Nice of the PM to acknowledge the efforts of the Australian volunteers.  A few AOs are in order I reckon

PM praises 'heroic' efforts of Australian rescuers in Thailand

In a speech to the Queensland Press Club, Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has praised the efforts of the 20 Australians who helped the rescue mission at Tham Luang cave.

"I want to thank them on behalf of a very, very grateful nation," he said

The Prime Minister said the giant rescue mission, run by the Thai military but involving expert volunteers from around the world, was "one of the most heroic and inspiring episodes of our time."

"It's hard to imagine anything more frightening than being trapped underground in the dark, let alone having your children trapped underground in the dark," he said.

"And the courage of those men and women who affected that rescue, the Thai Navy SEALs, the British divers, the Australian divers, and doctors ... they worked together with their international partners in a way that is an inspiration, an inspiration, to all of us."

Mr Turnbull said he had thanked the Australian rescuers in private for their help.
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In a speech to the Queensland Press Club, Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has praised the efforts of the 20 Australians who helped the rescue mission at Tham Luang cave.

"I want to thank them on behalf of a very, very grateful Liberal Party," he said

"With Asbestos Julie jumping on the bandwagon, we should be able to fool the public into believing that we were somehow involved in the rescue and therefore improve our chances at the upcoming by-elections and federal election".
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All's well that ends well. Sad about the Dr's Dad.

Prime Ministers are expected to "say something", as are Foreign Ministers regarding an event that Aussies are involved in, in a Foreign Country.

I did notice that Bishop is looking a little "odd" ... she is in her 60's and still trying to appear to be 45? Must say that it is not a good look.
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https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/jul/11/thai-cave-rescue-navy-seals-say-mis...

Disaster almost struck right at the very end- "they heard screams in the cave as the  water started to rise-"



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Thai cave rescue: Navy Seals say mission came 'close to disaster'
Rescuers who freed Wild Boars team from Tham Luang cave tell of dangers that included heavy rain and low oxygen

How the Thai cave rescue unfolded - video
The 12 boys whose rescue from a cave in northern Thailand this week captivated the world, have had a tearful reunion with their parents as it was revealed just how close the mission came to disaster.

Footage released by Thai authorities on Wednesday evening showed the 12 children and Ekkapol Chantawong, the 25-year-old football coach trapped with them, in hospital beds wearing surgical masks, clasping their palms in gratitude to the camera.


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Another clip showed the boys’ parents watching them from behind a window, waving and wiping away tears of joy and relief.

The reunions, experienced at a distance or through glass because the boys must be cleared of potential infections, were broadcast as part of a nationally televised press conference about the rescue of the members of the Wild Boars football club.

Authorities gave further details of the 17-day operation to free the boys from the Tham Luang cave in the Doi Nang Non mountain range, framing it as a battle against the elements.

When the boys’ bikes were first discovered outside the cave, rescuers initially thought the mission to find the children would be straightforward. They learned otherwise a few days into the search when heavy rain filled the cave faster then expected, forcing even navy personnel to retreat.

“We fought and were defeated, losing space to the water,” said Narongsak Osatanakorn, head of the joint command centre coordinating the operation.

Navy Seals began deep forays into the cave but were hindered by the muddy conditions, narrow paths and high water levels. “The cave was unlike anything we had ever experienced, it was so dark,” said Apakorn Youkongkaew, a rear admiral in the Thai navy.


Talented and resilient: the Wild Boars footballers trapped in Thai cave
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So challenging were the conditions that, for 23 hours, the Seals lost contact with two teams they sent into the cave, he said.

A week into the search their efforts to pump rain water out of the cave were proving fruitless. They called for heavier-duty equipment and a contingent of expert cave divers from the UK, Australia, China, US and Europe.
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I wish I could put up the pics from the Telegraph  taken during the rescue  I didnt know the boys were put to sleep  during a certain stage.....its it without a doubt the most amazing rescue  right up until the very last moment where the rescuers  had to scramble for their lives....

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I wish I could put up the pics from the Telegraph  taken during the rescue  I didnt know the boys were put to sleep  during a certain stage.....its it without a doubt the most amazing rescue  right up until the very last moment where the rescuers  had to scramble for their lives....

didnt the world work well together????.....


It was a great effort, yes.

After the swim, I think the boys were given more Valium (or similar) and then strapped into a stretcher.

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The presence of a cave diving expert who also happen to be an anesthesiologist can not be overstated.
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The presence of a cave diving expert who also happen to be an anesthesiologist can not be overstated.


Indeed.

What did one guy say: "a unique cross skill set" ?

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Dr Richard Harris ( from Adelaide)  lost his father on this rescue and I heard that he was on his way up past where I live - as there are a lot of underground caves on the Nullabor near here  that he dives in- that was to be his holiday but then he got the call about the Thai boys- I call him Prince Harry now- and he is a ranga ( Prince Harry was my secret crush)  Wink
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 1:58pm:
Gordon wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 1:56pm:
The presence of a cave diving expert who also happen to be an anesthesiologist can not be overstated.


Indeed.

What did one guy say: "a unique cross skill set" ?


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he sounds  a really nice guy.......last man out...its always the best that are so humble....

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[quote author=Sargeant_Schultz link=1530613863/302#302 date=1531370368][quote author=cods link=1530613863/301#301 date=1531370272]he sounds  a really nice guy.......last man out...its always the best that are so humble....

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Just to add my sixpence worth!

What a great outcome supported by lots of countries cooperating in solving a very dangerous mission.

Well done to all those concerned may they be individually honoured with bravery awards in their relevant countries.

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you know what I would like to see..

all those heros who put their lives on the line rewarded b y the worlds billionaires the likes of Elon Musk and Bill Gates   lets say gift them $50.000 each.... let them do what they like with it...keep it spend it give it away...

this has all round been a massive effort...
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thats a great idea cods- they definitetly deserve to be compensated for their services

here is a vid and I apolagise for the audio quality- but very interesting


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cods wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 4:03pm:
you know what I would like to see..

all those heros who put their lives on the line rewarded b y the worlds billionaires the likes of Elon Musk and Bill Gates   lets say gift them $50.000 each.... let them do what they like with it...keep it spend it give it away...

this has all round been a massive effort...


Why don't you lead the charge cods, with a "Go fund" campaign?  You could donate $50,000 yourself.
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cods wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 4:03pm:
you know what I would like to see..

all those heros who put their lives on the line rewarded b y the worlds billionaires the likes of Elon Musk and Bill Gates   lets say gift them $50.000 each.... let them do what they like with it...keep it spend it give it away...

this has all round been a massive effort...


Yeah great idea.

I also hope the thai boys swing a huge media deal and make a fortune.
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cods wrote on Jul 12th, 2018 at 4:03pm:
you know what I would like to see..

all those heros who put their lives on the line rewarded b y the worlds billionaires the likes of Elon Musk and Bill Gates   lets say gift them $50.000 each.... let them do what they like with it...keep it spend it give it away...

this has all round been a massive effort...


Yeah great idea.

I also hope the thai boys swing a huge media deal and make a fortune.


I'm guessing they'll be looking pretty flash, in new jerseys and boots, the next time they hit the soccer field.

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I've returned from Timor, and was following this on the news as much as I could. I'll make a few points

1. My cave rescue group got placed on standby, but in the end it was determined we weren't needed.
2. Elon Musk is a publicity whore. The plan he had had about zero chance of actually working.
3. It was a great effort from all involved. I don't cave dive, but I know a lot of cave divers, and the dangers of diving in that cave were proved by the ex Seal dying. He was an experienced diver, but cave diving is another level above that.
4. Lots of people that I noticed on FB etc seemed to love the quick solution. Why can't we send down a little sub (not flexible, won't fit through gaps) or why can't we drill down (too big a drill, also chance of causing collapse). It was also interesting how many people seemed to think a billionaire with no cave experience seemed to have a better solution than the experts in the field.
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I've returned from Timor, and was following this on the news as much as I could. I'll make a few points

1. My cave rescue group got placed on standby, but in the end it was determined we weren't needed.
2. Elon Musk is a publicity whore. The plan he had had about zero chance of actually working.
3. It was a great effort from all involved. I don't cave dive, but I know a lot of cave divers, and the dangers of diving in that cave were proved by the ex Seal dying. He was an experienced diver, but cave diving is another level above that.
4. Lots of people that I noticed on FB etc seemed to love the quick solution. Why can't we send down a little sub (not flexible, won't fit through gaps) or why can't we drill down (too big a drill, also chance of causing collapse). It was also interesting how many people seemed to think a billionaire with no cave experience seemed to have a better solution than the experts in the field.



I think in the end  we all know who the champs were..

it was managed beautifully..
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What were the fine details of that management, cods?
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What were the fine details of that management, cods?


Leave off Aussie ... stop being a prat.
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Gnads wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 11:52am:
Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 11:09am:
What were the fine details of that management, cods?


Leave off Aussie ... stop being a prat.



he cant help it.....must have been born one....he cant stand anything that has a perfect ending..
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Gnads wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 11:52am:
Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 11:09am:
What were the fine details of that management, cods?


Leave off Aussie ... stop being a prat.


No, if cods can assure us it was managed beautifully, she must know all the fine details, or was she just coat-tailing like Bishop and Turnbull et al?
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cods wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 11:58am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 11:52am:
Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 11:09am:
What were the fine details of that management, cods?


Leave off Aussie ... stop being a prat.



he cant help it.....must have been born one....he cant stand anything that has a perfect ending..


Huh?  What about that diver who died?  Was that managed beautifully too, cods?
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What were the fine details of that management, cods?



It certainly wasn't St Elon the Just accusing one of the Brit divers of being a paedophile.

"Elon Musk came under fire on Sunday after launching an extraordinary attack on a British diver who helped rescue the boys trapped in a flooded cave in Thailand, baselessly calling him a “pedo” on Twitter and then doubling down. "

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jul/15/elon-musk-british-diver-thai-...
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cods wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 11:58am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 11:52am:
Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 11:09am:
What were the fine details of that management, cods?


Leave off Aussie ... stop being a prat.



he cant help it.....must have been born one....he cant stand anything that has a perfect ending..


Huh?  What about that diver who died?  Was that managed beautifully too, cods?



you are one awful sick person please dont engage with me  I cant stand it...
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Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 11:09am:
What were the fine details of that management, cods?



It certainly wasn't St Elon the Just accusing one of the Brit divers of being a paedophile.

"Elon Musk came under fire on Sunday after launching an extraordinary attack on a British diver who helped rescue the boys trapped in a flooded cave in Thailand, baselessly calling him a “pedo” on Twitter and then doubling down. "

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jul/15/elon-musk-british-diver-thai-...



awful stuff... one of our members will love it of course...

what a sour person....the aussie doctor and his diving mate have given the British divers a huge thumbs up...

seems to me Elon  has an ego problem  and isnt dealing well with the knock back....yeah EGOS  I thinks I know where hes coming from... Angry Angry Angry
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Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 12:42pm:
cods wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 11:58am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 11:52am:
Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 11:09am:
What were the fine details of that management, cods?


Leave off Aussie ... stop being a prat.



he cant help it.....must have been born one....he cant stand anything that has a perfect ending..


Huh?  What about that diver who died?  Was that managed beautifully too, cods?




Cave diving at the best of times is a risky endeavour. The diver who died was not a cave diver.
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 1:38pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 12:42pm:
cods wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 11:58am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 11:52am:
Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 11:09am:
What were the fine details of that management, cods?


Leave off Aussie ... stop being a prat.



he cant help it.....must have been born one....he cant stand anything that has a perfect ending..


Huh?  What about that diver who died?  Was that managed beautifully too, cods?




Cave diving at the best of times is a risky endeavour. The diver who died was not a cave diver.


I know.  I was just giving cods a serve for her pretentious 'me too' sort of coat-tailing.
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Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 1:46pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 1:38pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 12:42pm:
cods wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 11:58am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 11:52am:
Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 11:09am:
What were the fine details of that management, cods?


Leave off Aussie ... stop being a prat.



he cant help it.....must have been born one....he cant stand anything that has a perfect ending..


Huh?  What about that diver who died?  Was that managed beautifully too, cods?




Cave diving at the best of times is a risky endeavour. The diver who died was not a cave diver.


I know.  I was just giving cods a serve for her pretentious 'me too' sort of coat-tailing.


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Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 1:46pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 1:38pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 12:42pm:
cods wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 11:58am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 11:52am:
Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 11:09am:
What were the fine details of that management, cods?


Leave off Aussie ... stop being a prat.



he cant help it.....must have been born one....he cant stand anything that has a perfect ending..


Huh?  What about that diver who died?  Was that managed beautifully too, cods?




Cave diving at the best of times is a risky endeavour. The diver who died was not a cave diver.


I know.  I was just giving cods a serve for her pretentious 'me too' sort of coat-tailing.



Grin Grin Grin Grin

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Huh?  What about that diver who died?  Was that managed beautifully too, cods?


Angry Angry Angry

again using a dead man as a weapon... and then pretending he didnt get it wrong...

he was  aThai Navy Seal... and he will be greatly missed....but go ahead  feed that massive  ego... Angry Angry Angry
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He was not a seal at the time....not that it matters one iota.
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What are you babbling about?

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What are you babbling about?

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You tell us more about your strawberry picker. We are all ears  Wink
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AiA wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 2:16pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 2:03pm:
What are you babbling about?

Quote:
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You tell us more about your strawberry picker. We are all ears  Wink


What are you babbling about?  I have never owned a strawberry farm or employed strawberry pickers.  You are an idiot, truly.
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He was not a seal at the time....not that it matters one iota.



retired!!!! 

bloody bogan..

your not a lawyer either.. Angry Angry Angry
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If you say so, cods.

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If you say so, cods.

Roll Eyes

everybody does..
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Then 'everybody' is also an idiot.

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Then 'everybody' is also an idiot.



And you are part of "everybody".
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Then 'everybody' is also an idiot.



And you are part of "everybody".


Nah.....arsie is a NOBODY without doubt.....so insecure that he had to, without authority, call the US (so he says) when the forum was off line.......he just couldn't deal with not (publicly) being able to run people down.........
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lee wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 4:06pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 3:35pm:
Then 'everybody' is also an idiot.





And you are part of "everybody".


So, you reckon I reckon I am an idiot?

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So, you reckon I reckon I am an idiot?



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So, you reckon I reckon I am an idiot?



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No, it was a question.  Answer it.  I rate your opinion so highly you know.

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No, it was a question.



Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 3:35pm:
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No, it was a question.



Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 3:35pm:
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Are you now claiming exemption from being a part of everybody?


Oh........so now it is a half smart word game?  Okay, do carry on.  You are on a winner there, no doubt about it.
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Oh........so now it is a half smart word game?



Niope. They were your words. But half smart is what you pretend to be. Or maybe pretence it is not.
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Nah, Lee, these were my words:

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Grow some balls and answer that simple question.  As I said, I value your opinion ever so highly.
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Nah, Lee, these were my words:

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I don't really give a toss what your later words were.

Your initial words were "Then 'everybody' is also an idiot."

They were your words weren't they? They were your words not mine.

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Some have questioned why Bishop stuck her head up to comment on the rescue effort. 

An official source confirmed to Four Corners that Dr Challen and Dr Harris were given diplomatic immunity ahead of the risky mission, after negotiations between Australian and Thai Government officials

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lee wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 5:12pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 4:58pm:
Nah, Lee, these were my words:

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So, you reckon I reckon I am an idiot?



I don't really give a toss what your later words were.

Your initial words were "Then 'everybody' is also an idiot."

They were your words weren't they? They were your words not mine.

Poor diddums.


Yes, they were my words.  Grow some balls and have the courage to make a conviction.
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Yes, they were my words. 



Convicted out of you own mouth. Nothing to do with me.
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Yes, they were my words. 



Convicted out of you own mouth. Nothing to do with me.



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So from what I understand...

one of the British divers told Elon Musk to shove his submarine up his arse on national TV...

in return Elon told him that he was a Paedophile on twitter...

now the Diver can't understand why Elon attacked him and is going to seek legal advice when he gets back Home to Britain....

apparently the Diver frequents Indonesia "regularly" ....  Undecided
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President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 6:31pm:
So from what I understand...

one of the British divers told Elon Musk to shove his submarine up his arse on national TV...

in return Elon told him that he was a Paedophile on twitter...

now the Diver can't understand why Elon attacked him and is going to seek legal advice when he gets back Home to Britain....

apparently the Diver frequents Indonesia "regularly" ....  Undecided




Ummm you really are smacking stupid aren't you.
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President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 6:31pm:
So from what I understand...

one of the British divers told Elon Musk to shove his submarine up his arse on national TV...

in return Elon told him that he was a Paedophile on twitter...

now the Diver can't understand why Elon attacked him and is going to seek legal advice when he gets back Home to Britain....

apparently the Diver frequents Indonesia "regularly" ....  Undecided



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Unsworth, who lives in Thailand and has spent years exploring the Tham Luang cave system where the boys were trapped, called Musk’s actions a “PR stunt” and said the sub had “absolutely no chance of working.




musk is not a nice person .. he did a Capt America stunt   and didnt like it being rejected... even I could tell it would never work. in that situation..

this was about rescuing   12 boys and their coach under dire circumstances 

his reaction  is deplorable..

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cods wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 10:01am:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jul 16th, 2018 at 6:31pm:
So from what I understand...

one of the British divers told Elon Musk to shove his submarine up his arse on national TV...

in return Elon told him that he was a Paedophile on twitter...

now the Diver can't understand why Elon attacked him and is going to seek legal advice when he gets back Home to Britain....

apparently the Diver frequents Indonesia "regularly" ....  Undecided



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Unsworth, who lives in Thailand and has spent years exploring the Tham Luang cave system where the boys were trapped, called Musk’s actions a “PR stunt” and said the sub had “absolutely no chance of working.




musk is not a nice person .. he did a Capt America stunt   and didnt like it being rejected... even I could tell it would never work. in that situation..

this was about rescuing   12 boys and their coach under dire circumstances 

his reaction  is deplorable..




Absolutely. It had precisely zero chance of working.
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it was a nice thing for him to do... UNTIL!
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cods wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 10:06am:
it was a nice thing for him to do... UNTIL!




Musk could have just offered money to help contribute to costs and that would have been of more value.
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 10:11am:
cods wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 10:06am:
it was a nice thing for him to do... UNTIL!




Musk could have just offered money to help contribute to costs and that would have been of more value.



not sure thats the point... why would money fix anything?....he did send engineers..expertises was what paid off in the end....all the divers were experts
and they must have been near exhaustion. 

fantastic effort...

I tell you what  I could never have even walked in that cave....
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cods wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 10:25am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 10:11am:
cods wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 10:06am:
it was a nice thing for him to do... UNTIL!




Musk could have just offered money to help contribute to costs and that would have been of more value.



not sure thats the point... why would money fix anything?....he did send engineers..expertises was what paid off in the end....all the divers were experts
and they must have been near exhaustion. 

fantastic effort...

I tell you what  I could never have even walked in that cave....



MOney to send the divers there, etc.
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cods wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 10:25am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 10:11am:
cods wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 10:06am:
it was a nice thing for him to do... UNTIL!




Musk could have just offered money to help contribute to costs and that would have been of more value.



not sure thats the point... why would money fix anything?....he did send engineers..expertises was what paid off in the end....all the divers were experts
and they must have been near exhaustion. 

fantastic effort...

I tell you what  I could never have even walked in that cave....




Meh, I walk in those types of caves all the time. Hell there was no SRT from what I can tell.
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that was a GIFT bojack...come on   I dont think the aussies were paid....it what we do .. at least I hope it is..
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that was a GIFT bojack...come on   I dont think the aussies were paid....it what we do .. at least I hope it is..




I'm not talking about paying anyone, I'm talking about covering costs.
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cods wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 10:34am:
that was a GIFT bojack...come on   I dont think the aussies were paid....it what we do .. at least I hope it is..




I'm not talking about paying anyone, I'm talking about covering costs.



whatever! I am sure the Thai govt  would be able to afford those......

I am not against giving all those involved  money especially for the family of the dead man   mentally I would think this will have a lasting affect .. something could be done to reward everyone...........
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cods wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 10:42am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 10:35am:
cods wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 10:34am:
that was a GIFT bojack...come on   I dont think the aussies were paid....it what we do .. at least I hope it is..




I'm not talking about paying anyone, I'm talking about covering costs.



whatever! I am sure the Thai govt  would be able to afford those......

I am not against giving all those involved  money especially for the family of the dead man   mentally I would think this will have a lasting affect .. something could be done to reward everyone...........



They would be, but what I'm saying is that contributing money would have been more useful than the sub.
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dont know if this has been posted but here is the 4 Corners episode on this rescue- its good


https://iview.abc.net.au/show/four-corners
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very lucky for these boys that they werent trapped in a cave in oz.

the rescuers would have had to consult with traditional land owners before commencing the operation.
the rescuers would have had to get OH and S specialists in who would have identified numerous slip hazards and cluttered the cave with yellow signs.
the greens would have refused to allow deisel generators to run the pumps
the greens would have declared that an environmental impact study had to be done before the water could be discharged
the boys probably didnt have written permission from their parents for the doctor to tend to their wounds
the rescuers would have spent several weeks getting the police clearances to work with children
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aquascoot wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 11:27am:
very lucky for these boys that they werent trapped in a cave in oz.

the rescuers would have had to consult with traditional land owners before commencing the operation.
the rescuers would have had to get OH and S specialists in who would have identified numerous slip hazards and cluttered the cave with yellow signs.
the greens would have refused to allow deisel generators to run the pumps
the greens would have declared that an environmental impact study had to be done before the water could be discharged
the boys probably didnt have written permission from their parents for the doctor to tend to their wounds
the rescuers would have spent several weeks getting the police clearances to work with children




Umm, dude, you do realise I volunteer for cave rescue and all of what you just typed is complete and total crap.
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aquascoot wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 11:27am:
very lucky for these boys that they werent trapped in a cave in oz.

the rescuers would have had to consult with traditional land owners before commencing the operation.
the rescuers would have had to get OH and S specialists in who would have identified numerous slip hazards and cluttered the cave with yellow signs.
the greens would have refused to allow deisel generators to run the pumps
the greens would have declared that an environmental impact study had to be done before the water could be discharged
the boys probably didnt have written permission from their parents for the doctor to tend to their wounds
the rescuers would have spent several weeks getting the police clearances to work with children

yeah right
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Agnes wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 11:30am:
aquascoot wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 11:27am:
very lucky for these boys that they werent trapped in a cave in oz.

the rescuers would have had to consult with traditional land owners before commencing the operation.
the rescuers would have had to get OH and S specialists in who would have identified numerous slip hazards and cluttered the cave with yellow signs.
the greens would have refused to allow deisel generators to run the pumps
the greens would have declared that an environmental impact study had to be done before the water could be discharged
the boys probably didnt have written permission from their parents for the doctor to tend to their wounds
the rescuers would have spent several weeks getting the police clearances to work with children

yeah right



Its aqua, so no its completely wrong.
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PLus I will say that in Australia, its unlikely that such a rescue would ever have been required.
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PLus I will say that in Australia, its unlikely that such a rescue would ever have been required.

agree- but i wasnt agreeing with aqua- i forgot the sarcastic smiley( this one)---  Roll Eyes
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aquascoot wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 11:27am:
very lucky for these boys that they werent trapped in a cave in oz.

the rescuers would have had to consult with traditional land owners before commencing the operation.
the rescuers would have had to get OH and S specialists in who would have identified numerous slip hazards and cluttered the cave with yellow signs.
the greens would have refused to allow deisel generators to run the pumps
the greens would have declared that an environmental impact study had to be done before the water could be discharged
the boys probably didnt have written permission from their parents for the doctor to tend to their wounds
the rescuers would have spent several weeks getting the police clearances to work with children
You are implying that red tape aimed at safety precautions would prevented such a  rescue happening. Can you think of a single circumstance where this has been so?
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dont know if this has been posted but here is the 4 Corners episode on this rescue- its good


https://iview.abc.net.au/show/four-corners

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rhino wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 11:54am:
aquascoot wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 11:27am:
very lucky for these boys that they werent trapped in a cave in oz.

the rescuers would have had to consult with traditional land owners before commencing the operation.
the rescuers would have had to get OH and S specialists in who would have identified numerous slip hazards and cluttered the cave with yellow signs.
the greens would have refused to allow deisel generators to run the pumps
the greens would have declared that an environmental impact study had to be done before the water could be discharged
the boys probably didnt have written permission from their parents for the doctor to tend to their wounds
the rescuers would have spent several weeks getting the police clearances to work with children
You are implying that red tape aimed at safety precautions would prevented such a  rescue happening. Can you think of a single circumstance where this has been so?



STATE Emergency Service volunteers fear state government red tape will prevent them from responding to emergencies as a safety scheme begins in October.
The SES Volunteers Association has complained that when they are reclassified as "workers" in the Workers Rehabilitation and Compensation Act, work safety rules will limit the number of hours they can be on rescue duties.

Association chairman Warren Hicks said to protect workers from fatigue-related accidents, SafeWork SA limited the number of hours of continuous work to 12 within a 24-hour period.


"Under the changes with their fatigue management, it doesn't take into account volunteer work, so I can be at my paid job for eight hours and, with another four hours volunteering, I am up to the 12-hour limit for the day."

A SafeWork SA spokeswoman said there were existing fatigue protections for volunteers and the new rules would give them the same protections as paid workers.

Mr Hicks said this would mean if an SES volunteer had done an eight-hour work day, they might not be able to respond to an emergency because it would put them over a 12-hour limit during any 24-hour period.
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Reply #371 - Jul 17th, 2018 at 1:03pm
 
rhino wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 11:54am:
aquascoot wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 11:27am:
very lucky for these boys that they werent trapped in a cave in oz.

the rescuers would have had to consult with traditional land owners before commencing the operation.
the rescuers would have had to get OH and S specialists in who would have identified numerous slip hazards and cluttered the cave with yellow signs.
the greens would have refused to allow deisel generators to run the pumps
the greens would have declared that an environmental impact study had to be done before the water could be discharged
the boys probably didnt have written permission from their parents for the doctor to tend to their wounds
the rescuers would have spent several weeks getting the police clearances to work with children
You are implying that red tape aimed at safety precautions would prevented such a  rescue happening. Can you think of a single circumstance where this has been so?




its sarcasm rhino.... some of the protocol in oz is over the top...lets just hope we never see something like this again   we have to remember they were missing for 10 days...in the dark no food or water to speak of....all credit to their coach   god knows what he told them to comfort them...
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aquascoot wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 1:01pm:
rhino wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 11:54am:
aquascoot wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 11:27am:
very lucky for these boys that they werent trapped in a cave in oz.

the rescuers would have had to consult with traditional land owners before commencing the operation.
the rescuers would have had to get OH and S specialists in who would have identified numerous slip hazards and cluttered the cave with yellow signs.
the greens would have refused to allow deisel generators to run the pumps
the greens would have declared that an environmental impact study had to be done before the water could be discharged
the boys probably didnt have written permission from their parents for the doctor to tend to their wounds
the rescuers would have spent several weeks getting the police clearances to work with children
You are implying that red tape aimed at safety precautions would prevented such a  rescue happening. Can you think of a single circumstance where this has been so?



STATE Emergency Service volunteers fear state government red tape will prevent them from responding to emergencies as a safety scheme begins in October.
The SES Volunteers Association has complained that when they are reclassified as "workers" in the Workers Rehabilitation and Compensation Act, work safety rules will limit the number of hours they can be on rescue duties.

Association chairman Warren Hicks said to protect workers from fatigue-related accidents, SafeWork SA limited the number of hours of continuous work to 12 within a 24-hour period.


"Under the changes with their fatigue management, it doesn't take into account volunteer work, so I can be at my paid job for eight hours and, with another four hours volunteering, I am up to the 12-hour limit for the day."

A SafeWork SA spokeswoman said there were existing fatigue protections for volunteers and the new rules would give them the same protections as paid workers.

Mr Hicks said this would mean if an SES volunteer had done an eight-hour work day, they might not be able to respond to an emergency because it would put them over a 12-hour limit during any 24-hour period.



So you want rescue guys going 24 hours straight?
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aquascoot wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 1:01pm:
rhino wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 11:54am:
aquascoot wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 11:27am:
very lucky for these boys that they werent trapped in a cave in oz.

the rescuers would have had to consult with traditional land owners before commencing the operation.
the rescuers would have had to get OH and S specialists in who would have identified numerous slip hazards and cluttered the cave with yellow signs.
the greens would have refused to allow deisel generators to run the pumps
the greens would have declared that an environmental impact study had to be done before the water could be discharged
the boys probably didnt have written permission from their parents for the doctor to tend to their wounds
the rescuers would have spent several weeks getting the police clearances to work with children
You are implying that red tape aimed at safety precautions would prevented such a  rescue happening. Can you think of a single circumstance where this has been so?



STATE Emergency Service volunteers fear state government red tape will prevent them from responding to emergencies as a safety scheme begins in October.
The SES Volunteers Association has complained that when they are reclassified as "workers" in the Workers Rehabilitation and Compensation Act, work safety rules will limit the number of hours they can be on rescue duties.

Association chairman Warren Hicks said to protect workers from fatigue-related accidents, SafeWork SA limited the number of hours of continuous work to 12 within a 24-hour period.


"Under the changes with their fatigue management, it doesn't take into account volunteer work, so I can be at my paid job for eight hours and, with another four hours volunteering, I am up to the 12-hour limit for the day."

A SafeWork SA spokeswoman said there were existing fatigue protections for volunteers and the new rules would give them the same protections as paid workers.

Mr Hicks said this would mean if an SES volunteer had done an eight-hour work day, they might not be able to respond to an emergency because it would put them over a 12-hour limit during any 24-hour period.
Tghat doesnt answer my question which was, You are implying that red tape aimed at safety precautions would prevented such a  rescue happening. Can you think of a single circumstance where this has been so?

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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 1:30pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 1:01pm:
rhino wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 11:54am:
aquascoot wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 11:27am:
very lucky for these boys that they werent trapped in a cave in oz.

the rescuers would have had to consult with traditional land owners before commencing the operation.
the rescuers would have had to get OH and S specialists in who would have identified numerous slip hazards and cluttered the cave with yellow signs.
the greens would have refused to allow deisel generators to run the pumps
the greens would have declared that an environmental impact study had to be done before the water could be discharged
the boys probably didnt have written permission from their parents for the doctor to tend to their wounds
the rescuers would have spent several weeks getting the police clearances to work with children
You are implying that red tape aimed at safety precautions would prevented such a  rescue happening. Can you think of a single circumstance where this has been so?



STATE Emergency Service volunteers fear state government red tape will prevent them from responding to emergencies as a safety scheme begins in October.
The SES Volunteers Association has complained that when they are reclassified as "workers" in the Workers Rehabilitation and Compensation Act, work safety rules will limit the number of hours they can be on rescue duties.

Association chairman Warren Hicks said to protect workers from fatigue-related accidents, SafeWork SA limited the number of hours of continuous work to 12 within a 24-hour period.


"Under the changes with their fatigue management, it doesn't take into account volunteer work, so I can be at my paid job for eight hours and, with another four hours volunteering, I am up to the 12-hour limit for the day."

A SafeWork SA spokeswoman said there were existing fatigue protections for volunteers and the new rules would give them the same protections as paid workers.

Mr Hicks said this would mean if an SES volunteer had done an eight-hour work day, they might not be able to respond to an emergency because it would put them over a 12-hour limit during any 24-hour period.



So you want rescue guys going 24 hours straight?



How many hours straight did the seals and the Australian anaesthetist who stayed with the boys do?
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Reply #375 - Jul 17th, 2018 at 1:40pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 1:38pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 1:30pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 1:01pm:
rhino wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 11:54am:
aquascoot wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 11:27am:
very lucky for these boys that they werent trapped in a cave in oz.

the rescuers would have had to consult with traditional land owners before commencing the operation.
the rescuers would have had to get OH and S specialists in who would have identified numerous slip hazards and cluttered the cave with yellow signs.
the greens would have refused to allow deisel generators to run the pumps
the greens would have declared that an environmental impact study had to be done before the water could be discharged
the boys probably didnt have written permission from their parents for the doctor to tend to their wounds
the rescuers would have spent several weeks getting the police clearances to work with children
You are implying that red tape aimed at safety precautions would prevented such a  rescue happening. Can you think of a single circumstance where this has been so?



STATE Emergency Service volunteers fear state government red tape will prevent them from responding to emergencies as a safety scheme begins in October.
The SES Volunteers Association has complained that when they are reclassified as "workers" in the Workers Rehabilitation and Compensation Act, work safety rules will limit the number of hours they can be on rescue duties.

Association chairman Warren Hicks said to protect workers from fatigue-related accidents, SafeWork SA limited the number of hours of continuous work to 12 within a 24-hour period.


"Under the changes with their fatigue management, it doesn't take into account volunteer work, so I can be at my paid job for eight hours and, with another four hours volunteering, I am up to the 12-hour limit for the day."

A SafeWork SA spokeswoman said there were existing fatigue protections for volunteers and the new rules would give them the same protections as paid workers.

Mr Hicks said this would mean if an SES volunteer had done an eight-hour work day, they might not be able to respond to an emergency because it would put them over a 12-hour limit during any 24-hour period.



So you want rescue guys going 24 hours straight?



How many hours straight did the seals and the Australian anaesthetist who stayed with the boys do?




Not sure, but it would not have been 24 hours straight. They rested in between doing each batch of kids and rotated with the boys in the cave.
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Reply #376 - Jul 17th, 2018 at 3:01pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 1:38pm:
How many hours straight did the seals and the Australian anaesthetist who stayed with the boys do?




The official who led the Thai cave rescue says the medic and three Thai navy SEAL divers who stayed with the trapped boys after they were found have left the flooded cave.


among the last to leave....I think the medic must be Dr Harris...
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Reply #377 - Jul 17th, 2018 at 3:14pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 1:40pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 1:38pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 1:30pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 1:01pm:
rhino wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 11:54am:
aquascoot wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 11:27am:
very lucky for these boys that they werent trapped in a cave in oz.

the rescuers would have had to consult with traditional land owners before commencing the operation.
the rescuers would have had to get OH and S specialists in who would have identified numerous slip hazards and cluttered the cave with yellow signs.
the greens would have refused to allow deisel generators to run the pumps
the greens would have declared that an environmental impact study had to be done before the water could be discharged
the boys probably didnt have written permission from their parents for the doctor to tend to their wounds
the rescuers would have spent several weeks getting the police clearances to work with children
You are implying that red tape aimed at safety precautions would prevented such a  rescue happening. Can you think of a single circumstance where this has been so?



STATE Emergency Service volunteers fear state government red tape will prevent them from responding to emergencies as a safety scheme begins in October.
The SES Volunteers Association has complained that when they are reclassified as "workers" in the Workers Rehabilitation and Compensation Act, work safety rules will limit the number of hours they can be on rescue duties.

Association chairman Warren Hicks said to protect workers from fatigue-related accidents, SafeWork SA limited the number of hours of continuous work to 12 within a 24-hour period.


"Under the changes with their fatigue management, it doesn't take into account volunteer work, so I can be at my paid job for eight hours and, with another four hours volunteering, I am up to the 12-hour limit for the day."

A SafeWork SA spokeswoman said there were existing fatigue protections for volunteers and the new rules would give them the same protections as paid workers.

Mr Hicks said this would mean if an SES volunteer had done an eight-hour work day, they might not be able to respond to an emergency because it would put them over a 12-hour limit during any 24-hour period.



So you want rescue guys going 24 hours straight?



How many hours straight did the seals and the Australian anaesthetist who stayed with the boys do?




Not sure, but it would not have been 24 hours straight. They rested in between doing each batch of kids and rotated with the boys in the cave.



The Australian team also included six Australian Federal Police divers, a navy clearance diver and members of the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade Crisis Rescue Team.

"Our people spent 75 hours in that cave," AFP Commander Glen McEwen said.


hmmm, it appears they did a bit more then the 12 hours.
notify safework SA.
this doctor is a rogue  Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #378 - Jul 17th, 2018 at 3:21pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 3:14pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 1:40pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 1:38pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 1:30pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 1:01pm:
rhino wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 11:54am:
aquascoot wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 11:27am:
very lucky for these boys that they werent trapped in a cave in oz.

the rescuers would have had to consult with traditional land owners before commencing the operation.
the rescuers would have had to get OH and S specialists in who would have identified numerous slip hazards and cluttered the cave with yellow signs.
the greens would have refused to allow deisel generators to run the pumps
the greens would have declared that an environmental impact study had to be done before the water could be discharged
the boys probably didnt have written permission from their parents for the doctor to tend to their wounds
the rescuers would have spent several weeks getting the police clearances to work with children
You are implying that red tape aimed at safety precautions would prevented such a  rescue happening. Can you think of a single circumstance where this has been so?



STATE Emergency Service volunteers fear state government red tape will prevent them from responding to emergencies as a safety scheme begins in October.
The SES Volunteers Association has complained that when they are reclassified as "workers" in the Workers Rehabilitation and Compensation Act, work safety rules will limit the number of hours they can be on rescue duties.

Association chairman Warren Hicks said to protect workers from fatigue-related accidents, SafeWork SA limited the number of hours of continuous work to 12 within a 24-hour period.


"Under the changes with their fatigue management, it doesn't take into account volunteer work, so I can be at my paid job for eight hours and, with another four hours volunteering, I am up to the 12-hour limit for the day."

A SafeWork SA spokeswoman said there were existing fatigue protections for volunteers and the new rules would give them the same protections as paid workers.

Mr Hicks said this would mean if an SES volunteer had done an eight-hour work day, they might not be able to respond to an emergency because it would put them over a 12-hour limit during any 24-hour period.



So you want rescue guys going 24 hours straight?



How many hours straight did the seals and the Australian anaesthetist who stayed with the boys do?




Not sure, but it would not have been 24 hours straight. They rested in between doing each batch of kids and rotated with the boys in the cave.



The Australian team also included six Australian Federal Police divers, a navy clearance diver and members of the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade Crisis Rescue Team.

"Our people spent 75 hours in that cave," AFP Commander Glen McEwen said.


hmmm, it appears they did a bit more then the 12 hours.
notify safework SA.
this doctor is a rogue  Cheesy Cheesy




Ummm that was 75 hours all up, spread over a couple of weeks.  Plus the rules would be different for navy divers and AFP divers.
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Reply #379 - Jul 17th, 2018 at 3:24pm
 
he AFP dive team has specialist dive capabilities with experience conducting searches in zero visibility areas, land search and rescue, and diving in flooded caves. The team travelled from Canberra on Saturday 30 June.

And the kids were pulled out on 10 July.


So in 11 days they did 75 hours in the cave.


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And I'm hoping you're aware that when they say 12 hours as a limit, what they mean is as a limit in any 24 hour period.
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I dont care if they only spent 1 hour in there..

they did a beautiful job.. if I was a parent waiting 15 days to see if my child came out alive...without a scratch on them...I would be eternally grateful....
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Reply #382 - Jul 17th, 2018 at 4:54pm
 
It doesn't matter which Country had the "best" divers ... or whether they will get some sort of "award" for doing their job.

It only matters that the little kids and their football coach got out, safely.
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oh I thought it was more about oneupmanship JGG..

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Reply #384 - Jul 17th, 2018 at 9:07pm
 
cods wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 1:03pm:
rhino wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 11:54am:
aquascoot wrote on Jul 17th, 2018 at 11:27am:
very lucky for these boys that they werent trapped in a cave in oz.

the rescuers would have had to consult with traditional land owners before commencing the operation.
the rescuers would have had to get OH and S specialists in who would have identified numerous slip hazards and cluttered the cave with yellow signs.
the greens would have refused to allow deisel generators to run the pumps
the greens would have declared that an environmental impact study had to be done before the water could be discharged
the boys probably didnt have written permission from their parents for the doctor to tend to their wounds
the rescuers would have spent several weeks getting the police clearances to work with children
You are implying that red tape aimed at safety precautions would prevented such a  rescue happening. Can you think of a single circumstance where this has been so?




its sarcasm rhino.... m
Really? I would  never have guessed.
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