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Reply #210 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 11:16am
 
Aussie wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:09am:
aquascoot wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 7:33am:
a wonderful story of "hero mythology".
this is why it taps into something deep in our pysche.

now watch the post modern intellectuals

1  call for the coach to be charged
2  have a small army of psychologists ready to make the boys feel 'weak and vulnerable", when they should be paraded before the adoring masses and given medals to make them feel "strong and powerful"


First thing you have ever posted that I agree with. 

Reading this Thread has been a bit of a revelation.  It seems some people reckon that we all do not have access to the same schmedia reports they do, and there is a race to be the first to post about it here, even using the 'breaking' introduction.

For some, their posts suggest there is some sort of vicarious voyerurism involved.

Is this about observers getting some sort of personal vindication/gratification/justification by coat tailing on the lives and efforts of others?

I still have not got a good grip on what they are doing to make themselves the best most worthy clappers.

It might well be me. I have never been into heroes.....people who simply do their job, or something they love doing for their own satisfaction.

Is this truly 'trauma porn,' and we all are supposed to get off because the 7th Cavalry arrives to do its job?

It's as though they cannot wait to either beat their breasts if there is a death, or to claim personal ownership of any success.

There is something to this, beyond 'trauma porn,' or 'train wreck' gawking. There are people who make this very personal to them, when in fact....nothing they say or do will have any impact whatsoever on success or otherwise, yet they rabbit on desperately wanting some recognition for their personal cheerleading and emotional outpouring.

I do not get it. Might be just a quirk in me, but is how I see it.

I, just like everyone, hope it all turns out well for those trapped and those who are rescuing. That's it. End of emotional commitment.

Some bugger has died.....and he is now not now even mentioned.



I have been reminded of another possible aspect of this.  Is it true that some people are only able to get behind something that has an immediate resolution? The backing of safe horses, as it were?
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Reply #211 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 12:54pm
 
Gordon wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:58am:
aquascoot wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:48am:
ah, see gweg, thats where the left and myself differ.

i see these boys as heroic figures.
its not really about compassion , so much as pride in what humans can endure.'its an inspirational story.

the leftist media (and i presume" the conversation " is part of the leftist ABC) see this story not as one of inspiration and heroic endeavour. they see it more as one of compassion and hand wringing.

and then they ask (quite wrongly in my mind), why australians arent as gripped by the stories of the kids in detention on Naru.

because thats a sad weepie sooky butt hurt cry baby story and these boys are a strong inspirational brave courageous story.

they are totally different and the fact that one draws in the world and one does not is evidence that we NEED inspirational heroic stories to make us brave enough to "move forward".


Also the kids and their parents can leave Naru anytime they like.




Naru?  Nauru.

Where will they go if they leave?

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Reply #212 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 12:58pm
 
Where can they go if they were allowed off.  How do they get there, assuming there is a place they can go to?
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Reply #213 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 1:09pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 12:58pm:
Where can they go if they were allowed off.  How do they get there, assuming there is a place they can go to?


I think Gordon is just gathering the information now.

Gordon?

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Reply #215 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 1:41pm
 
Gordon wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 1:23pm:


Let me get this straight: you're suggesting that asylum seekers go home?

Just out of curiosity, do you know what an asylum seeker is?

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Reply #216 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:03pm
 

Okay, why is Julie Bishop giving interviews regarding the boys in the cave?

WTF does it have to do with her?    Undecided
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Reply #217 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:06pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:03pm:
Okay, why is Julie Bishop giving interviews regarding the boys in the cave?

WTF does it have to do with her?    Undecided

everytime I see her face- it makes me sick- was wondering the same-  grr cant stand her
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Reply #218 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:09pm
 
Agnes wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:06pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:03pm:
Okay, why is Julie Bishop giving interviews regarding the boys in the cave?

WTF does it have to do with her?    Undecided

everytime I see her face- it makes me sick- was wondering the same-  grr cant stand her


I thought I was hearing things yesterday when I heard her voice on the "news" discussing the boys (I was making dinner, and wasn't actually watching the TV).

However, I just looked now and there she is again, talking about the boys' rescue.

WTF does this have to do with Julie smacking Bishop?   Angry
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Reply #219 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:10pm
 
yes I agree- 








TEN boys out now
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Reply #220 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:13pm
 
Agnes wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:10pm:
yes I agree-  TEN boys out now


Yep, just two to go, and the coach - great news!

I'm really scratching my head here, though, trying to figure out how Julie Bishop got involved in this.


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Reply #221 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:20pm
 


11 out.

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Reply #222 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:29pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:20pm:
11 out.



It will be nicely symbolic if the last man out is the Coach.
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Reply #223 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:29pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:20pm:
11 out.


Yes saw that - -
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Reply #224 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:33pm
 
Agnes wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:29pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:20pm:
11 out.


Yes saw that - -


Well done, Agnes!!!! 
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