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Bias_2012 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10278 Gender:	Re: Multiculti fails again... Reply #15 - Jul 6^th, 2018 at 6:34pm A lot of wogs are committing crimes though
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Auggie Gold Member Offline The Bull Moose Posts: 8571	Re: Multiculti fails again... Reply #16 - Jul 6^th, 2018 at 6:42pm Grendel wrote on Jul 5^th, 2018 at 11:21pm: Auggie wrote on Jul 5^th, 2018 at 8:02pm: A multi-racial, mono-cultural nation-state is the best type of society. Japan seems to do quite well as a society... Low crime rate too. Japan is not a multiracial society. I suspect you're referring to the ethnic homogeneity.
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Reply #17 - Jul 6^th, 2018 at 6:43pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 6^th, 2018 at 4:32pm:

For a social policy that has supposedly "failed", Multiculturalism enjoys massive support in the Australian community. 85% of the population supports Multiculturalism.

What is really interesting is that the anti-Multiculturalists refuse to accept that the Australian government policy of Multiculturalism is different to that of overseas Government's policies of multiculturalism. To them, they all share the same label so they must be the same. So, they use overseas examples of the supposed "failure" of multiculturalism to discredit Australian Multiculturalism, despite them being completely unconnected. Tsk, tsk, lies? Perhaps.

So, until they accept that Multiculturalism is popular that an overwhelming majority of Australians they will get no where.

Oh, and I do wish they'd stop mixing up a settlement policy (Multiculturalism) with immigration. The two are basically completely separate. Roll Eyes

Can you explain some of the differences between Australia's multicultural policies and Europe's? For example, what has led to ghettoisation in Europe as opposed to Australia?

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Reply #18 - Jul 6^th, 2018 at 7:36pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 6^th, 2018 at 4:32pm:

Oh, and I do wish they'd stop mixing up a settlement policy (Multiculturalism) with immigration. The two are basically completely separate. Roll Eyes

You are basically a complete idiot.

There would be NO multiculturalism without immigration from culturally different countries.
'Multiculturalism' is code for trying to justify the importation of culturally incompatible migrants who may or may not want to assimilate. So 'multiculturalism' justifies their self-selecting separatism within the host country.

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 40416 Gender:	Re: Multiculti fails again... Reply #19 - Jul 6^th, 2018 at 7:38pm Auggie wrote on Jul 5^th, 2018 at 8:02pm: A multi-racial, mono-cultural nation-state is the best type of society. Gissa nexample, gussie.
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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 40416 Gender:	Re: Multiculti fails again... Reply #20 - Jul 6^th, 2018 at 7:46pm Brian Ross wrote on Jul 6^th, 2018 at 4:32pm: For a social policy that has supposedly "failed", Multiculturalism enjoys massive support in the Australian community. 85% of the population supports Multiculturalism. Fair go, yes. Separatist, militant Islam, African thugs, NESBy morons covering their faces for Allah - no.
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Reply #21 - Jul 6^th, 2018 at 8:31pm

Auggie wrote on Jul 6^th, 2018 at 6:43pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 6^th, 2018 at 4:32pm:

For a social policy that has supposedly "failed", Multiculturalism enjoys massive support in the Australian community. 85% of the population supports Multiculturalism.

What is really interesting is that the anti-Multiculturalists refuse to accept that the Australian government policy of Multiculturalism is different to that of overseas Government's policies of multiculturalism. To them, they all share the same label so they must be the same. So, they use overseas examples of the supposed "failure" of multiculturalism to discredit Australian Multiculturalism, despite them being completely unconnected. Tsk, tsk, lies? Perhaps.

So, until they accept that Multiculturalism is popular that an overwhelming majority of Australians they will get no where.

Oh, and I do wish they'd stop mixing up a settlement policy (Multiculturalism) with immigration. The two are basically completely separate. Roll Eyes

Can you explain some of the differences between Australia's multicultural policies and Europe's? For example, what has led to ghettoisation in Europe as opposed to Australia?

The essential difference between most overseas multicultural policies and Australian policies is that many other nations created a sort of "non-policy", a laissez faire style, whereby little effort or money was spent on the promotion of tolerance. Downunder, OTOH, governments have spent extensively, promoting tolerance and acceptance. The former method appears to promote "ghettos" (a distasteful term) because migrants band together for protection and sympathy and help in new lands. Downunder, it happens here but the aspirations of the migrants have them moving out, much faster than overseas. Admittedly, overseas the governments have often created the conditions that prevent the assimilation of the migrants whereas Australian governments have done the reverse, promoting home ownership and acceptance of migrants.

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Reply #22 - Jul 6^th, 2018 at 8:33pm

Frank wrote on Jul 6^th, 2018 at 7:46pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 6^th, 2018 at 4:32pm:

For a social policy that has supposedly "failed", Multiculturalism enjoys massive support in the Australian community. 85% of the population supports Multiculturalism.

Fair go, yes.

Separatist, militant Islam, African thugs, NESBy morons covering their faces for Allah - no.

According to whom, Soren? You have created such groups with your rejection of anybody who is different, anybody who believes in different religions or practices a different culture. Tsk, tsk, you have created your worst nightmare. Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #23 - Jul 6^th, 2018 at 8:36pm

Frank wrote on Jul 6^th, 2018 at 7:36pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 6^th, 2018 at 4:32pm:

Oh, and I do wish they'd stop mixing up a settlement policy (Multiculturalism) with immigration. The two are basically completely separate. Roll Eyes

You are basically a complete idiot.

There would be NO multiculturalism without immigration from culturally different countries.

'Multiculturalism' is code for trying to justify the importation of culturally incompatible migrants who may or may not want to assimilate. So 'multiculturalism' justifies their self-selecting separatism within the host country.

You refuse to accept all migrants, Soren. Your refusal has created your own worse nightmare as migrants band together because people like you attack them at every opportunity. Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #24 - Jul 6^th, 2018 at 9:24pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 6^th, 2018 at 8:36pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 6^th, 2018 at 7:36pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 6^th, 2018 at 4:32pm:

Oh, and I do wish they'd stop mixing up a settlement policy (Multiculturalism) with immigration. The two are basically completely separate. Roll Eyes

You are basically a complete idiot.

There would be NO multiculturalism without immigration from culturally different countries.

'Multiculturalism' is code for trying to justify the importation of culturally incompatible migrants who may or may not want to assimilate. So 'multiculturalism' justifies their self-selecting separatism within the host country.

You refuse to accept all migrants, Soren.

The old boy has no problem with Danes, dear. The tanned ones, anyway.

They invented something, I forget which.

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Reply #25 - Jul 6^th, 2018 at 9:26pm

Frank wrote on Jul 6^th, 2018 at 7:36pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 6^th, 2018 at 4:32pm:

Oh, and I do wish they'd stop mixing up a settlement policy (Multiculturalism) with immigration. The two are basically completely separate. Roll Eyes

You are basically a complete idiot.

There would be NO multiculturalism without immigration from culturally different countries.
'Multiculturalism' is code for trying to justify the importation of culturally incompatible migrants who may or may not want to assimilate. So 'multiculturalism' justifies their self-selecting separatism within the host country.

Yes, old boy, but we're British.

You?

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Reply #26 - Jul 6^th, 2018 at 9:35pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 6^th, 2018 at 8:31pm:

Auggie wrote on Jul 6^th, 2018 at 6:43pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jul 6^th, 2018 at 4:32pm:

For a social policy that has supposedly "failed", Multiculturalism enjoys massive support in the Australian community. 85% of the population supports Multiculturalism.

What is really interesting is that the anti-Multiculturalists refuse to accept that the Australian government policy of Multiculturalism is different to that of overseas Government's policies of multiculturalism. To them, they all share the same label so they must be the same. So, they use overseas examples of the supposed "failure" of multiculturalism to discredit Australian Multiculturalism, despite them being completely unconnected. Tsk, tsk, lies? Perhaps.

So, until they accept that Multiculturalism is popular that an overwhelming majority of Australians they will get no where.

Oh, and I do wish they'd stop mixing up a settlement policy (Multiculturalism) with immigration. The two are basically completely separate. Roll Eyes

Can you explain some of the differences between Australia's multicultural policies and Europe's? For example, what has led to ghettoisation in Europe as opposed to Australia?

The essential difference between most overseas multicultural policies and Australian policies is that many other nations created a sort of "non-policy", a laissez faire style, whereby little effort or money was spent on the promotion of tolerance. Downunder, OTOH, governments have spent extensively, promoting tolerance and acceptance. The former method appears to promote "ghettos" (a distasteful term) because migrants band together for protection and sympathy and help in new lands. Downunder, it happens here but the aspirations of the migrants have them moving out, much faster than overseas. Admittedly, overseas the governments have often created the conditions that prevent the assimilation of the migrants whereas Australian governments have done the reverse, promoting home ownership and acceptance of migrants.

Does number have any thing to do with it?

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Reply #27 - Jul 6^th, 2018 at 9:37pm

Auggie wrote on Jul 6^th, 2018 at 6:42pm:

Grendel wrote on Jul 5^th, 2018 at 11:21pm:

Auggie wrote on Jul 5^th, 2018 at 8:02pm:

A multi-racial, mono-cultural nation-state is the best type of society.

Japan seems to do quite well as a society... Low crime rate too.

Japan is not a multiracial society. I suspect you're referring to the ethnic homogeneity.

I'm referring to both points. Why do you think your choice is better? Stats seem to disagree with you.

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Reply #28 - Jul 6^th, 2018 at 9:41pm

Here we go bwian trying on the Aussie style Multiculti is different.

Multiculturalism is a flawed settlement policy... we prop it up by spending billions, and by continually tweaking it. Bwian cannot argue we have ever had 1 type of Multiculti except to say that it is flawed and continues to be. It was never initiated with public support and many people are still unaware of what it really is. The continuous use of the term Assimilation by people and pollies in regards to Multiculti prove that point.
When asked, Hawke refused to hold a referendum on it because he knew the public would not sanction it.

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Multiculti fails again... Reply #29 - Jul 6^th, 2018 at 9:51pm PS I already posted the FACTS re Multiculti in an article on the leading study by Mark Lopez, you want real facts look there. Wanna good book? https://books.google.com.au/books/about/The_Origins_of_Multiculturalism_in_Austr...
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