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Re: Poll Says Too Much Immigration
Reply #165 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 7:09pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 7:06pm:
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So, people who come from tribal cultures, and societies where law and order has broken down are to be equated intellectually with people who come from developed countries where law and order is strong??


Huh?
Are you being racist?
Are you saying that people from undeveloped countries are intellectually inferior?


Haha, very clever tactic, Grendel, one I've used myself on some occasion.

Not at all, people are to a large extent a product of their environment. People who come from undevelop countries are shaped by the environment in which they grow up.
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Reply #166 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 7:20pm
 
Auggie wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 7:09pm:
Grendel wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 7:06pm:
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So, people who come from tribal cultures, and societies where law and order has broken down are to be equated intellectually with people who come from developed countries where law and order is strong??


Huh?
Are you being racist?
Are you saying that people from undeveloped countries are intellectually inferior?


Haha, very clever tactic, Grendel, one I've used myself on some occasion.

Not at all, people are to a large extent a product of their environment. People who come from undevelop countries are shaped by the environment in which they grow up.

Not a tactic just normal debate.
I'm seeking clarification.

You said something that appears to me to be very wrong.  Mind you...  you also appear to be very confused about the R word yourself having made now several dubious posts.

You still haven't answered my question. Roll Eyes
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Re: Poll Says Too Much Immigration
Reply #167 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 7:29pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 7:20pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 7:09pm:
Grendel wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 7:06pm:
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So, people who come from tribal cultures, and societies where law and order has broken down are to be equated intellectually with people who come from developed countries where law and order is strong??


Huh?
Are you being racist?
Are you saying that people from undeveloped countries are intellectually inferior?


Haha, very clever tactic, Grendel, one I've used myself on some occasion.

Not at all, people are to a large extent a product of their environment. People who come from undevelop countries are shaped by the environment in which they grow up.

Not a tactic just normal debate.
I'm seeking clarification.

You said something that appears to me to be very wrong.  Mind you...  you also appear to be very confused about the R word yourself having made now several dubious posts.

You still haven't answered my question. Roll Eyes


I did answer your question.

I don't think your racist; but I wonder sometimes based on your comments about ethnic people.
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Re: Poll Says Too Much Immigration
Reply #168 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 8:27pm
 
Auggie wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 7:29pm:
Grendel wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 7:20pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 7:09pm:
Grendel wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 7:06pm:
Quote:
So, people who come from tribal cultures, and societies where law and order has broken down are to be equated intellectually with people who come from developed countries where law and order is strong??


Huh?
Are you being racist?
Are you saying that people from undeveloped countries are intellectually inferior?


Haha, very clever tactic, Grendel, one I've used myself on some occasion.

Not at all, people are to a large extent a product of their environment. People who come from undevelop countries are shaped by the environment in which they grow up.

Not a tactic just normal debate.
I'm seeking clarification.

You said something that appears to me to be very wrong.  Mind you...  you also appear to be very confused about the R word yourself having made now several dubious posts.

You still haven't answered my question. Roll Eyes


I did answer your question.

I don't think your racist; but I wonder sometimes based on your comments about ethnic people.

I've never said anything racist in fact I've been anti-racist all my life.
And NO...  you did not answer my questions.

Here they are again.... 
Are you being racist?
Are you saying that people from undeveloped countries are intellectually inferior?


Now don't waffle around them this time.
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Reply #169 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 9:37pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 8:27pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 7:29pm:
Grendel wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 7:20pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 7:09pm:
Grendel wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 7:06pm:
Quote:
So, people who come from tribal cultures, and societies where law and order has broken down are to be equated intellectually with people who come from developed countries where law and order is strong??


Huh?
Are you being racist?
Are you saying that people from undeveloped countries are intellectually inferior?


Haha, very clever tactic, Grendel, one I've used myself on some occasion.

Not at all, people are to a large extent a product of their environment. People who come from undevelop countries are shaped by the environment in which they grow up.

Not a tactic just normal debate.
I'm seeking clarification.

You said something that appears to me to be very wrong.  Mind you...  you also appear to be very confused about the R word yourself having made now several dubious posts.

You still haven't answered my question. Roll Eyes


I did answer your question.

I don't think your racist; but I wonder sometimes based on your comments about ethnic people.

I've never said anything racist in fact I've been anti-racist all my life.
And NO...  you did not answer my questions.

Here they are again.... 
Are you being racist?
Are you saying that people from undeveloped countries are intellectually inferior?


Now don't waffle around them this time.


No to both questions.

Anti-racist? So when you say that you're worried that some parts of Sydney look like Asia or the Middle East, that isn't even remotely racist?
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Reply #170 - Jul 21st, 2018 at 8:22pm
 
Nope
And YOU are misquoting me....  tsk, tsk, tsk.

BTW, why should Australia look like; Asia, Africa, or the ME?
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Reply #171 - Jul 22nd, 2018 at 2:50pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jul 21st, 2018 at 8:22pm:
Nope
And YOU are misquoting me....  tsk, tsk, tsk.

BTW, why should Australia look like; Asia, Africa, or the ME?


Why should it matter if it does?
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Reply #172 - Jul 22nd, 2018 at 3:18pm
 
Because then there would be no Australia.

You think any of those regions or countries in them want to be Australia and their people Australians?

What countries have state religions and ban others?
What counties enforces "dress" rule on men and women?
What countries has severe restrictions on permanent residency and migration?
etc, etc,etc...

the question is then, why doesn't it matter to you?
Cultural Cringe?
Not Australian?
Hate Australia and Australians?
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Reply #173 - Jul 22nd, 2018 at 3:20pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jul 22nd, 2018 at 3:18pm:
Because then there would be no Australia.

You think any of those regions or countries in them want to be Australia and their people Australians?

What countries have state religions and ban others?
What counties enforces "dress" rule on men and women?
What countries has severe restrictions on permanent residency and migration?
etc, etc,etc...


But, we're different from them, G, we're more advanced than them in terms of accepting a multi-cultural society. It doesn't matter what other countries do; I care about WE do.
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Reply #174 - Jul 22nd, 2018 at 4:49pm
 
Auggie wrote on Jul 22nd, 2018 at 3:20pm:
Grendel wrote on Jul 22nd, 2018 at 3:18pm:
Because then there would be no Australia.

You think any of those regions or countries in them want to be Australia and their people Australians?

What countries have state religions and ban others?
What counties enforces "dress" rule on men and women?
What countries has severe restrictions on permanent residency and migration?
etc, etc,etc...


But, we're different from them, G, we're more advanced than them in terms of accepting a multi-cultural society. It doesn't matter what other countries do; I care about WE do.

Yes we are different from them.
Putnam's world's largest study on diversity policy showed it created social disharmony and social isolationism.  How does diluting the social harmony aid society?
How does creating a country of cultural enclaves improve social unity?
What makes you think Multiculti is a good thing to accept?
Why should a country allow it's borders to be filled with different nationalities with different values and objectives?
I care about what WE do to.
93% of 35,000 Australians in a phone poll by A Current Affair said Multiculturalism should be abandoned.
Bob Hawke refused to allow a referendum on it because he knew it would be defeated.
Government after Government tweak it to try and make it more acceptable to the general public.
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Reply #175 - Jul 22nd, 2018 at 4:51pm
 
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93% of 35,000 Australians in a phone poll by A Current Affair said Multiculturalism should be abandoned.


1.  Hardly surprising given its audience.

2.  Got a link to those stats?
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Reply #176 - Jul 22nd, 2018 at 4:57pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jul 22nd, 2018 at 4:49pm:
Putnam's world's largest study on diversity policy showed it created social disharmony and social isolationism.  How does diluting the social harmony aid society?


Absolute rubbish from a fraud who's just jumping on the Rightist bandwagon.

Grendel wrote on Jul 22nd, 2018 at 4:49pm:
What makes you think Multiculti is a good thing to accept?


Because multi-culturalism is about the exchange of ideas and culture. It can also create a more harmonious society because it encourages people to think outside of their bubbles.

Grendel wrote on Jul 22nd, 2018 at 4:49pm:
Why should a country allow it's borders to be filled with different nationalities with different values and objectives?


How do you know that these people have different objectives?? Most people just want to live, work and pursue happiness like everyone else in life.

Grendel wrote on Jul 22nd, 2018 at 4:49pm:
93% of 35,000 Australians in a phone poll by A Current Affair said Multiculturalism should be abandoned.


A Current Affair. Are you serious? Do you actually believe anything that the show says? Wow, now I'm impressed. Everything on that show is just sensationalised and made up.

Grendel wrote on Jul 22nd, 2018 at 4:49pm:
Bob Hawke refused to allow a referendum on it because he knew it would be defeated.


Bob Hawke didn't allow a referendum on it because he knew that the debate would polarise society and be a field day for hate groups of either end of the spectrum. Just look at the Brexit vote.

And funny that the people continued to vote Hawke into power. If they really hated it, then why elect him?

Grendel wrote on Jul 22nd, 2018 at 4:49pm:
Government after Government tweak it to try and make it more acceptable to the general public.


Doesn't that indicate that maybe the government is listening to the concerns of people, and is responsive? Just because they don't implement the policies YOU want...
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Reply #177 - Jul 22nd, 2018 at 4:58pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jul 22nd, 2018 at 4:51pm:
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93% of 35,000 Australians in a phone poll by A Current Affair said Multiculturalism should be abandoned.


1.  Hardly surprising given its audience.

2.  Got a link to those stats?


I wouldn't believe anything the ACA said even if my life depended on it.

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Reply #178 - Jul 22nd, 2018 at 5:04pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jul 22nd, 2018 at 4:51pm:
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93% of 35,000 Australians in a phone poll by A Current Affair said Multiculturalism should be abandoned.


1.  Hardly surprising given its audience.

2.  Got a link to those stats?

What do you mean don't you remember?
Oh and appalling that you dismiss the messenger that being 35,000 Australian,
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Reply #179 - Jul 22nd, 2018 at 5:09pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jul 22nd, 2018 at 5:04pm:
Aussie wrote on Jul 22nd, 2018 at 4:51pm:
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93% of 35,000 Australians in a phone poll by A Current Affair said Multiculturalism should be abandoned.


1.  Hardly surprising given its audience.

2.  Got a link to those stats?

What do you mean don't you remember?
Oh and appalling that you dismiss the messenger that being 35,000 Australian,


I said nothing about remembering.

Are you unable to give me a link to your claim?  Just say so, if that is the case.
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