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Reply #1 - Jun 25th, 2018 at 7:43pm
 
ABC = UK
SBS = Mainland Europe (originally)
7,9 & 10 = USA
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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A BILLION FREAKING DOLLARS...  Shocked Shocked Shocked
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Reply #3 - Jun 25th, 2018 at 7:51pm
 
They lie to the Australian public.
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Reply #4 - Jun 25th, 2018 at 7:53pm
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 7:39pm:
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What a fail !

Basing a topic on a poster built on so many untruths. It is just embarrassing to base a topic on nothing but lies.
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Dnarever wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 7:53pm:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 7:39pm:
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What a fail !

Basing a topic on a poster built on so many untruths. It is just embarrassing to base a topic on nothing but lies.


If The Mechanic didn't start threads based on lies, he wouldn't start threads at all.

I wonder how much it costs to run his favourite channel - 7 Mate.

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Reply #6 - Jun 25th, 2018 at 7:55pm
 
Imrah wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 7:51pm:
They lie to the Australian public.


and they hate white Australians..
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Reply #7 - Jun 25th, 2018 at 7:58pm
 
Television/Media is really the realm of Oceania and its bias towards Europe, Asia & Africa as a priority more than Australia, Namerica, Middle-East & Samerica.

Lets face it. The Media/TV is 'un-Australian', just as Trump is showing the world how 'un-American' it has been all along.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Jasin wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 7:58pm:
Television/Media is really the realm of Oceania and its bias towards Europe, Asia & Africa as a priority more than Australia, Namerica, Middle-East & Samerica.

Lets face it. The Media/TV is 'un-Australian', just as Trump is showing the world how 'un-American' it has been all along.


I love your comments, I can never work out if it means anything but it terrific anyway.
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Reply #9 - Jun 25th, 2018 at 8:30pm
 
The money doesn't concern me.
But the indoctrination is appalling.
The ABC and the universities are reprehensible organisations.
There is talk that Shakespeare , Milton and Chaucer should be removed from university English courses as they represent colonialism and white privilege .

With so much very dangerous leftard ideology, the last thing we need is an openly Marxist and post modern media outlet doing further damage to the population.

A reprehensible and malevolent hotbed of resentful Marxists.

Appalling organisation
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Reply #10 - Jun 25th, 2018 at 8:51pm
 
Keep Playschool and Rage and Gardening Australia.

Bin the rest
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Reply #11 - Jun 25th, 2018 at 9:43pm
 
They should sell it off before it becomes obsolete.
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Reply #12 - Jun 25th, 2018 at 9:50pm
 
Gordon wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 8:51pm:
Keep Playschool and Rage and Gardening Australia.

Bin the rest


Like the radio news recognised as the most accurate in Australia and the Tv news programs which are 46% Liberal based and 35% Labor ? Yes the facts always fail to support the Lib wankers.

Biased my botton.
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aquascoot wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 8:30pm:
The money doesn't concern me.
But the indoctrination is appalling.
The ABC and the universities are reprehensible organisations.
There is talk that Shakespeare , Milton and Chaucer should be removed from university English courses as they represent colonialism and white privilege .

With so much very dangerous leftard ideology, the last thing we need is an openly Marxist and post modern media outlet doing further damage to the population.

A reprehensible and malevolent hotbed of resentful Marxists.

Appalling organisation


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The ABC and the universities are reprehensible organisations.


Yes the conservatives hate education and balanced news.
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Reply #14 - Jun 25th, 2018 at 9:54pm
 
Not a single conservative

Do you know that more ABC presenters have represented the Liberals than Labor ?

That is a fact.
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Reply #15 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 6:30am
 
Dnarever wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 9:51pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 8:30pm:
The money doesn't concern me.
But the indoctrination is appalling.
The ABC and the universities are reprehensible organisations.
There is talk that Shakespeare , Milton and Chaucer should be removed from university English courses as they represent colonialism and white privilege .

With so much very dangerous leftard ideology, the last thing we need is an openly Marxist and post modern media outlet doing further damage to the population.

A reprehensible and malevolent hotbed of resentful Marxists.

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The ABC and the universities are reprehensible organisations.


Yes the conservatives hate education and balanced news.


no we hate "indocrination"
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Reply #16 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 9:26am
 
ABC is needed to balance out the private broadcasters here in Australia.  Not only from a political point of view, but also saving us from hour to hour mindless and cheap reality TV shows. 

As a centralist, I believe the ABC is quiet balanced.  It only looked to some of you as being extreme left wing, because of your own extremist right wing views.
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Reply #17 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 9:31am
 
Dnarever wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 7:53pm:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 7:39pm:
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What a fail !

Basing a topic on a poster built on so many untruths. It is just embarrassing to base a topic on nothing but lies.

Then I suggest you do something you almost always fail to do and prove the claims incorrect.  Funny you never notice anything wrong with Green-ALP "facts"...
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Reply #18 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 9:33am
 
aquascoot wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 6:30am:
Dnarever wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 9:51pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 8:30pm:
The money doesn't concern me.
But the indoctrination is appalling.
The ABC and the universities are reprehensible organisations.
There is talk that Shakespeare , Milton and Chaucer should be removed from university English courses as they represent colonialism and white privilege .

With so much very dangerous leftard ideology, the last thing we need is an openly Marxist and post modern media outlet doing further damage to the population.

A reprehensible and malevolent hotbed of resentful Marxists.

Appalling organisation


Quote:
The ABC and the universities are reprehensible organisations.


Yes the conservatives hate education and balanced news.


no we hate "indocrination"

Well said Scoot...  be we allowed the LW Progs to infiltrate and take over the education system.
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Reply #19 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 9:35am
 
tickleandrose wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 9:26am:
ABC is needed to balance out the private broadcasters here in Australia.  Not only from a political point of view, but also saving us from hour to hour mindless and cheap reality TV shows. 

As a centralist, I believe the ABC is quiet balanced.  It only looked to some of you as being extreme left wing, because of your own extremist right wing views. 

Firstly it isn't balanced nor is SBS.  Unless of course you count the childrens programs and purely entertainment shows like the drama series or movies it shows.

Any political commentary panel show current affairs program etc has a distinct progressive Left lean.  Denial of that FACT is simply denial. Roll Eyes
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Reply #20 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 9:38am
 
As I have stated previously...  the ABC is an essential service and should be maintained...  it's problem is balanced reporting and unbiased reporting, it generally lacks both.  You hear it every day.
Sell off SBS it is unnecessary.  That will save some money.  Cut back any feed that simply repeats what is on another channel.
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Reply #21 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 9:58am
 
Ahhh kicking the ABC the usual conservative go to, when they have nothing positive to do or say.
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Reply #22 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 9:59am
 
Grendel wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 9:35am:
Firstly it isn't balanced nor is SBS.




Is that because like Bolt you're so far right, that central looks like left./
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Grendel wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 9:35am:
tickleandrose wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 9:26am:
ABC is needed to balance out the private broadcasters here in Australia.  Not only from a political point of view, but also saving us from hour to hour mindless and cheap reality TV shows. 

As a centralist, I believe the ABC is quiet balanced.  It only looked to some of you as being extreme left wing, because of your own extremist right wing views. 

Firstly it isn't balanced nor is SBS.  Unless of course you count the childrens programs and purely entertainment shows like the drama series or movies it shows.

Any political commentary panel show current affairs program etc has a distinct progressive Left lean.  Denial of that FACT is simply denial. Roll Eyes


Australia had always been a slight left leaning socialist democracy with constitutional monarch on the background.  Look at historic models of funding for education, health, welfare would show you that.  When PM Abbott, and treasurer Hockey tried a more right leaning brand of governance.  Not only he was not able to get any measures through, he was promptly voted out by his own party.
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Grendel wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 9:33am:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 6:30am:
Dnarever wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 9:51pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 8:30pm:
The money doesn't concern me.
But the indoctrination is appalling.
The ABC and the universities are reprehensible organisations.
There is talk that Shakespeare , Milton and Chaucer should be removed from university English courses as they represent colonialism and white privilege .

With so much very dangerous leftard ideology, the last thing we need is an openly Marxist and post modern media outlet doing further damage to the population.

A reprehensible and malevolent hotbed of resentful Marxists.

Appalling organisation


Quote:
The ABC and the universities are reprehensible organisations.


Yes the conservatives hate education and balanced news.


no we hate "indocrination"

Well said Scoot...  be we allowed the LW Progs to infiltrate and take over the education system.



thats going to end very very badly
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Dnarever wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 9:51pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 8:30pm:
The money doesn't concern me.
But the indoctrination is appalling.
The ABC and the universities are reprehensible organisations.
There is talk that Shakespeare , Milton and Chaucer should be removed from university English courses as they represent colonialism and white privilege .

With so much very dangerous leftard ideology, the last thing we need is an openly Marxist and post modern media outlet doing further damage to the population.

A reprehensible and malevolent hotbed of resentful Marxists.

Appalling organisation


Quote:
The ABC and the universities are reprehensible organisations.


Yes the conservatives hate education and balanced news.



Nailed it!

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greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 10:18am:
Dnarever wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 9:51pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 8:30pm:
The money doesn't concern me.
But the indoctrination is appalling.
The ABC and the universities are reprehensible organisations.
There is talk that Shakespeare , Milton and Chaucer should be removed from university English courses as they represent colonialism and white privilege .

With so much very dangerous leftard ideology, the last thing we need is an openly Marxist and post modern media outlet doing further damage to the population.

A reprehensible and malevolent hotbed of resentful Marxists.

Appalling organisation


Quote:
The ABC and the universities are reprehensible organisations.


Yes the conservatives hate education and balanced news.



Nailed it!




balanced?

what was 4 corners last night
another weepie story about youth in detention and how they are the real victims  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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aquascoot wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 10:27am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 10:18am:
Dnarever wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 9:51pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 8:30pm:
The money doesn't concern me.
But the indoctrination is appalling.
The ABC and the universities are reprehensible organisations.
There is talk that Shakespeare , Milton and Chaucer should be removed from university English courses as they represent colonialism and white privilege .

With so much very dangerous leftard ideology, the last thing we need is an openly Marxist and post modern media outlet doing further damage to the population.

A reprehensible and malevolent hotbed of resentful Marxists.

Appalling organisation


Quote:
The ABC and the universities are reprehensible organisations.


Yes the conservatives hate education and balanced news.



Nailed it!




balanced?

what was 4 corners last night
another weepie story about youth in detention and how they are the real victims  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Let me get this right.

You don't like the ABC, yet you watch it every night.

Interesting.
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Reply #28 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 10:34am
 
aquascoot wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 10:27am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 10:18am:
Dnarever wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 9:51pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 8:30pm:
The money doesn't concern me.
But the indoctrination is appalling.
The ABC and the universities are reprehensible organisations.
There is talk that Shakespeare , Milton and Chaucer should be removed from university English courses as they represent colonialism and white privilege .

With so much very dangerous leftard ideology, the last thing we need is an openly Marxist and post modern media outlet doing further damage to the population.

A reprehensible and malevolent hotbed of resentful Marxists.

Appalling organisation


Quote:
The ABC and the universities are reprehensible organisations.


Yes the conservatives hate education and balanced news.



Nailed it!




balanced?

what was 4 corners last night
another weepie story about youth in detention and how they are the real victims  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes




No, no it wasn't.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 10:31am:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 10:27am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 10:18am:
Dnarever wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 9:51pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 8:30pm:
The money doesn't concern me.
But the indoctrination is appalling.
The ABC and the universities are reprehensible organisations.
There is talk that Shakespeare , Milton and Chaucer should be removed from university English courses as they represent colonialism and white privilege .

With so much very dangerous leftard ideology, the last thing we need is an openly Marxist and post modern media outlet doing further damage to the population.

A reprehensible and malevolent hotbed of resentful Marxists.

Appalling organisation


Quote:
The ABC and the universities are reprehensible organisations.


Yes the conservatives hate education and balanced news.



Nailed it!




balanced?

what was 4 corners last night
another weepie story about youth in detention and how they are the real victims  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Let me get this right.

You don't like the ABC, yet you watch it every night.

Interesting.



i most certainly DIDNT watch it.
but i like to keep informed of the dark forces at work in society so i can help guide people away from them.
and i saw on the TV guide that 4 corners were doing a show on youth detention.

yet another case of people being "oppressed by the patriachy"  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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aquascoot wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 10:53am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 10:31am:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 10:27am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 10:18am:
Dnarever wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 9:51pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 8:30pm:
The money doesn't concern me.
But the indoctrination is appalling.
The ABC and the universities are reprehensible organisations.
There is talk that Shakespeare , Milton and Chaucer should be removed from university English courses as they represent colonialism and white privilege .

With so much very dangerous leftard ideology, the last thing we need is an openly Marxist and post modern media outlet doing further damage to the population.

A reprehensible and malevolent hotbed of resentful Marxists.

Appalling organisation


Quote:
The ABC and the universities are reprehensible organisations.


Yes the conservatives hate education and balanced news.



Nailed it!




balanced?

what was 4 corners last night
another weepie story about youth in detention and how they are the real victims  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Let me get this right.

You don't like the ABC, yet you watch it every night.

Interesting.



i most certainly DIDNT watch it.
but i like to keep informed of the dark forces at work in society so i can help guide people away from them.
and i saw on the TV guide that 4 corners were doing a show on youth detention.

yet another case of people being "oppressed by the patriachy"
  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


You're in no position to comment on it, then.

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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 10:34am:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 10:27am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 10:18am:
Dnarever wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 9:51pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 8:30pm:
The money doesn't concern me.
But the indoctrination is appalling.
The ABC and the universities are reprehensible organisations.
There is talk that Shakespeare , Milton and Chaucer should be removed from university English courses as they represent colonialism and white privilege .

With so much very dangerous leftard ideology, the last thing we need is an openly Marxist and post modern media outlet doing further damage to the population.

A reprehensible and malevolent hotbed of resentful Marxists.

Appalling organisation


Quote:
The ABC and the universities are reprehensible organisations.


Yes the conservatives hate education and balanced news.



Nailed it!




balanced?

what was 4 corners last night
another weepie story about youth in detention and how they are the real victims  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes




No, no it wasn't.

HAS ANYONE SEEN THIS ON THE ABC/?

WARNING: Confronting.
ROEBOURNE, Western Australia, is in the grip of a paedophile epidemic that has seen such a high incidence that child sex abuse is “normal”.
Police have charged 36 men with more than 300 offences against 184 children from Roeburne and surrounding communities.
West Australian Police Commissioner Karl O’Callaghan has described the rate of alleged child sex offending in Roebourne as “staggering” and the problem as “a cancer”.
The former gold rush town, which has a greater population of around 1400, lies in the Pilbara region 1500km north of Perth.
The Pilbara, with vast mining resources and sparsely populated Aboriginal towns, covers 500,000 square kilometres stretching from the Indian Ocean to Central Australia.
Roebourne, where the streets are lined with brick and stone colonial buildings, has dwindled since its 19th century boom as the largest settlement between Darwin and Perth.
It has now been singled out as a festering mess of intergenerational child sexual abuse where kids are more li
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Reply #32 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 10:58am
 
Yes, they did a huge program on it last year.
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of course i am.
i dont need to be exposed to these toxic stories to know that they are toxic.

every 4 corners is designed to destroy australian interest.
whether its anti coal or anti cattle exports or anti bank or anti the church or anti law enforcement  or anti australia day or anti military

its all about tearing down and destroying .

i want my national broadcaster to showcase the wonderful australian society to the world
i want it to be a vehicle of persuading tourists to come here and people to want to invest here .

it should be proudly patriotic
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Given that last nights program was about US prisoners in custody, how does that tear down Australian interests?
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aquascoot wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 10:59am:
of course i am.
i dont need to be exposed to these toxic stories to know that they are toxic.

every 4 corners is designed to destroy australian interest.
whether its anti coal or anti cattle exports or anti bank or anti the church or anti law enforcement  or anti australia day or anti military

its all about tearing down and destroying .

i want my national broadcaster to showcase the wonderful australian society to the world
i want it to be a vehicle of persuading tourists to come here and people to want to invest here .

it should be proudly patriotic


No. No you're not.
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Dnarever wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 9:51pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 8:30pm:
The money doesn't concern me.
But the indoctrination is appalling.
The ABC and the universities are reprehensible organisations.
There is talk that Shakespeare , Milton and Chaucer should be removed from university English courses as they represent colonialism and white privilege .

With so much very dangerous leftard ideology, the last thing we need is an openly Marxist and post modern media outlet doing further damage to the population.

A reprehensible and malevolent hotbed of resentful Marxists.

Appalling organisation


Quote:
The ABC and the universities are reprehensible organisations.


Yes the conservatives hate education and balanced news.


I wouldn't call a large portion of the ideologue crap being pushed by University lecturers/professors to day as education but indoctrination.

The national push by some Unis to remove any reference to gender specifics in the use of the english language is a prime example.

Students are being marked down & threatened with failing grades for it's use.
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 11:02am:
Given that last nights program was about US prisoners in custody, how does that tear down Australian interests?



people need an inspiring positive narrative to bravely "move forward".
this is just to take the initial steps on "the narrow road to success"

if you watch the ABC "weepies", nearly every story is designed to give you an emotional state crash.
after watching an hour of  inspirational TV, you may come away centred and ready to move forward with bravery.

but after watching an hour of the ABC you probably come away anxious, irritable, frightened, startled, with a blood chemistry of cortisol and you feel off.

now if thats YOU, if you vibe with toxic negativity and victim stories and the cry baby narrative and you vibe with failure, you'll be addicted to the ABC.

but i wouldnt watch it.

i wouldnt do that to my brain.

your brain needs to be nurtured and fed the good stuff. Wink

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Reply #38 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 11:12am
 
aquascoot wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 11:09am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 11:02am:
Given that last nights program was about US prisoners in custody, how does that tear down Australian interests?



people need an inspiring positive narrative to bravely "move forward".
this is just to take the initial steps on "the narrow road to success"

if you watch the ABC "weepies", nearly every story is designed to give you an emotional state crash.
after watching an hour of  inspirational TV, you may come away centred and ready to move forward with bravery.

but after watching an hour of the ABC you probably come away anxious, irritable, frightened, startled, with a blood chemistry of cortisol and you feel off.

now if thats YOU, if you vibe with toxic negativity and victim stories and the cry baby narrative and you vibe with failure, you'll be addicted to the ABC.

but i wouldnt watch it.

i wouldnt do that to my brain.

your brain needs to be nurtured and fed the good stuff. Wink





So now you're moving into pop endocrinology as well.  And you do get bravery, bravery to change this BS.
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Reply #39 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 11:19am
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 11:12am:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 11:09am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 11:02am:
Given that last nights program was about US prisoners in custody, how does that tear down Australian interests?



people need an inspiring positive narrative to bravely "move forward".
this is just to take the initial steps on "the narrow road to success"

if you watch the ABC "weepies", nearly every story is designed to give you an emotional state crash.
after watching an hour of  inspirational TV, you may come away centred and ready to move forward with bravery.

but after watching an hour of the ABC you probably come away anxious, irritable, frightened, startled, with a blood chemistry of cortisol and you feel off.

now if thats YOU, if you vibe with toxic negativity and victim stories and the cry baby narrative and you vibe with failure, you'll be addicted to the ABC.

but i wouldnt watch it.

i wouldnt do that to my brain.

your brain needs to be nurtured and fed the good stuff. Wink





So now you're moving into pop endocrinology as well.  And you do get bravery, bravery to change this BS.


are you saying that you would come away from watching 4 corners do a story on live animal exports in the same emotional state as you would come away from watching a story on the marvels of the barrier reef?

see, you are addicted to the bad stuff.

just like the ABC.

if they did a story on the barrier reef, it would be on coral bleaching or the like and it would be designed to suck in all the people who like to feel "sad and full of doom and gloom".

this is a real phenomenom.

a leftie lecturer  at my neices uni told the class they should only have 1 kid maybe, to try to save the planet.

infecting kids with doom and gloom and toxic negativity.  reprehensible
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No an addict, would have to watch it all the time. I don't watch 4 corners all the time. You see your problem aqua is you're a dreamer not a doer. I would watch the GBR program and be in awe of the place and determined to help protect it, I'd watch a similar program about children committing violent crimes being locked away for life and determined to do something about the problem.


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a leftie lecturer  at my neices uni told the class they should only have 1 kid maybe, to try to save the planet.




I call complete and utter BS on this anecdote.
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aquascoot wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 11:19am:
a leftie lecturer  at my neices uni told the class they should only have 1 kid maybe, to try to save the planet.




I call complete and utter BS on this anecdote.



So do I.

Nobody in aqua's family goes to Uni.

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aquascoot wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 11:09am:
if you watch the ABC "weepies", nearly every story is designed to give you an emotional state crash.
after watching an hour of  inspirational TV, you may come away centred and ready to move forward with bravery.

but after watching an hour of the ABC you probably come away anxious, irritable, frightened, startled, with a blood chemistry of cortisol and you feel off.

now if thats YOU, if you vibe with toxic negativity and victim stories and the cry baby narrative and you vibe with failure, you'll be addicted to the ABC.

Whoa!  That is so true! I have noticed this change in my own mentality having been practically glued to the News24 set since 2013-07-19 when Rudd announced his brand new offshore detention policy.  Back then I was quite sucked in by the propaganda and used to hum the ABC News theme tune in the shower without thinking.

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but i wouldnt watch it.

i wouldnt do that to my brain.

your brain needs to be nurtured and fed the good stuff. Wink


My brain needs to be fed true stuff.  The only good I get from ABC24 is to better understand what goes on in the minds of the indoctrinated ones in the street now.  Then, when I am forewarned of what rubbish they've been fed by the ABC, whether directly or by the 'trickle-down' effect, I can relate better to their madness. 

Unfortunately, as you have alluded to, there has been a significant increase in hatred in our communities over this decade, noticably exaccerbated since John Barron's sweetheart lost the last US election.  You have helped me to understand why this may be, because I know the feeling of anger and hopelessness that watching too much ABC24 provides.
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Like the British BBC the Australian ABC is a Marxist shite spreading machine manned by self-serving champagne socialists feeding from the taxpayer's tit........the original purpose of an unbiased and honest news source for the population NEVER materialised.

Sell it off, or close it down.......preferably the former so that the taxpayer can recover some the vast amounts wasted...
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Fuzzball wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 11:44am:
Like the British BBC the Australian ABC is a Marxist shite spreading machine manned by self-serving champagne socialists feeding from the taxpayer's tit........the original purpose of an unbiased and honest news source for the population NEVER materialised.


Your post made me wonder about the honesty of the ABC back in the last century, even fifty years ago, and how their attitude may have changed over the last half century, or most importantly, when.

Was I just another gullible punter last century when I considered the 7pm ABC news the pinnacle of honest journalism, or have they changed their tune over this time?

What worries me is whether the ABC is just a reflection of our frucked up post-911 multicultural society ... or is it the cause?
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Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 11:51am:
Fuzzball wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 11:44am:
Like the British BBC the Australian ABC is a Marxist shite spreading machine manned by self-serving champagne socialists feeding from the taxpayer's tit........the original purpose of an unbiased and honest news source for the population NEVER materialised.


Your post made me wonder about the honesty of the ABC back in the last century, even fifty years ago, and how their attitude may have changed over the last half century, or most importantly, when.

Was I just another gullible punter last century when I considered the 7pm ABC news the pinnacle of honest journalism, or have they changed their tune over this time?

What worries me is whether the ABC is just a reflection of our frucked up post-911 multicultural society ... or is it the cause?



That post made me wonder more about contacting the mental health services on Fuzzball.
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 1:22pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 11:51am:
Fuzzball wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 11:44am:
Like the British BBC the Australian ABC is a Marxist shite spreading machine manned by self-serving champagne socialists feeding from the taxpayer's tit........the original purpose of an unbiased and honest news source for the population NEVER materialised.


Your post made me wonder about the honesty of the ABC back in the last century, even fifty years ago, and how their attitude may have changed over the last half century, or most importantly, when.

Was I just another gullible punter last century when I considered the 7pm ABC news the pinnacle of honest journalism, or have they changed their tune over this time?

What worries me is whether the ABC is just a reflection of our frucked up post-911 multicultural society ... or is it the cause?



That post made me wonder more about contacting the mental health services on Fuzzball.

The BBC is a lot more well-written, and the stories on their website do tend to offer more indepth reports, with more attention to different sides of a story. 

Still though, when it comes to serious international issues, eg. Syria and other such US enemies, it seems that even the trusty BBC is afraid to cross certain political lines that might reflect negatively on the US forces. 

BBC is better than ABC, and it is not easy to pick the usual propaganda themes that are so obvious in many ABC stories, but BBC still leaves the readers in the dark about that which is not to be mentioned. 

Lately the ABC has taken to slamming other media sources, labelling them as fake news, when that in itself is more fake news from the ABC, meant to convince the gullible hooligans that their football team is better than the other side.  That is about the level of the ABC's mentality thesedays.
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Reply #49 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 1:42pm
 
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 1:37pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 1:22pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 11:51am:
Fuzzball wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 11:44am:
Like the British BBC the Australian ABC is a Marxist shite spreading machine manned by self-serving champagne socialists feeding from the taxpayer's tit........the original purpose of an unbiased and honest news source for the population NEVER materialised.


Your post made me wonder about the honesty of the ABC back in the last century, even fifty years ago, and how their attitude may have changed over the last half century, or most importantly, when.

Was I just another gullible punter last century when I considered the 7pm ABC news the pinnacle of honest journalism, or have they changed their tune over this time?

What worries me is whether the ABC is just a reflection of our frucked up post-911 multicultural society ... or is it the cause?



That post made me wonder more about contacting the mental health services on Fuzzball.

The BBC is a lot more well-written, and the stories on their website do tend to offer more indepth reports, with more attention to different sides of a story. 

Still though, when it comes to serious international issues, eg. Syria and other such US enemies, it seems that even the trusty BBC is afraid to cross certain political lines that might reflect negatively on the US forces. 

BBC is better than ABC, and it is not easy to pick the usual propaganda themes that are so obvious in many ABC stories, but BBC still leaves the readers in the dark about that which is not to be mentioned. 

Lately the ABC has taken to slamming other media sources, labelling them as fake news, when that in itself is more fake news from the ABC, meant to convince the gullible hooligans that their football team is better than the other side.  That is about the level of the ABC's mentality thesedays.




We must be watching different ABCs
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 1:42pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 1:37pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 1:22pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 11:51am:
Fuzzball wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 11:44am:
Like the British BBC the Australian ABC is a Marxist shite spreading machine manned by self-serving champagne socialists feeding from the taxpayer's tit........the original purpose of an unbiased and honest news source for the population NEVER materialised.


Your post made me wonder about the honesty of the ABC back in the last century, even fifty years ago, and how their attitude may have changed over the last half century, or most importantly, when.

Was I just another gullible punter last century when I considered the 7pm ABC news the pinnacle of honest journalism, or have they changed their tune over this time?

What worries me is whether the ABC is just a reflection of our frucked up post-911 multicultural society ... or is it the cause?



That post made me wonder more about contacting the mental health services on Fuzzball.

The BBC is a lot more well-written, and the stories on their website do tend to offer more indepth reports, with more attention to different sides of a story. 

Still though, when it comes to serious international issues, eg. Syria and other such US enemies, it seems that even the trusty BBC is afraid to cross certain political lines that might reflect negatively on the US forces. 

BBC is better than ABC, and it is not easy to pick the usual propaganda themes that are so obvious in many ABC stories, but BBC still leaves the readers in the dark about that which is not to be mentioned. 

Lately the ABC has taken to slamming other media sources, labelling them as fake news, when that in itself is more fake news from the ABC, meant to convince the gullible hooligans that their football team is better than the other side.  That is about the level of the ABC's mentality thesedays.




We must be watching different ABCs

No, more likely you're just stuck in the gullible hooligan mindset.  Pay close attention for a long time and you might see the pattern.
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Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 1:44pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 1:42pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 1:37pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 1:22pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 11:51am:
Fuzzball wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 11:44am:
Like the British BBC the Australian ABC is a Marxist shite spreading machine manned by self-serving champagne socialists feeding from the taxpayer's tit........the original purpose of an unbiased and honest news source for the population NEVER materialised.


Your post made me wonder about the honesty of the ABC back in the last century, even fifty years ago, and how their attitude may have changed over the last half century, or most importantly, when.

Was I just another gullible punter last century when I considered the 7pm ABC news the pinnacle of honest journalism, or have they changed their tune over this time?

What worries me is whether the ABC is just a reflection of our frucked up post-911 multicultural society ... or is it the cause?



That post made me wonder more about contacting the mental health services on Fuzzball.

The BBC is a lot more well-written, and the stories on their website do tend to offer more indepth reports, with more attention to different sides of a story. 

Still though, when it comes to serious international issues, eg. Syria and other such US enemies, it seems that even the trusty BBC is afraid to cross certain political lines that might reflect negatively on the US forces. 

BBC is better than ABC, and it is not easy to pick the usual propaganda themes that are so obvious in many ABC stories, but BBC still leaves the readers in the dark about that which is not to be mentioned. 

Lately the ABC has taken to slamming other media sources, labelling them as fake news, when that in itself is more fake news from the ABC, meant to convince the gullible hooligans that their football team is better than the other side.  That is about the level of the ABC's mentality thesedays.




We must be watching different ABCs

No, more likely you're just stuck in the gullible hooligan mindset.  Pay close attention for a long time and you might see the pattern.



Isn't it just as likely you're in the paranoid rightard mindset.
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 1:46pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 1:44pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 1:42pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 1:37pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 1:22pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 11:51am:
Fuzzball wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 11:44am:
Like the British BBC the Australian ABC is a Marxist shite spreading machine manned by self-serving champagne socialists feeding from the taxpayer's tit........the original purpose of an unbiased and honest news source for the population NEVER materialised.


Your post made me wonder about the honesty of the ABC back in the last century, even fifty years ago, and how their attitude may have changed over the last half century, or most importantly, when.

Was I just another gullible punter last century when I considered the 7pm ABC news the pinnacle of honest journalism, or have they changed their tune over this time?

What worries me is whether the ABC is just a reflection of our frucked up post-911 multicultural society ... or is it the cause?



That post made me wonder more about contacting the mental health services on Fuzzball.

The BBC is a lot more well-written, and the stories on their website do tend to offer more indepth reports, with more attention to different sides of a story. 

Still though, when it comes to serious international issues, eg. Syria and other such US enemies, it seems that even the trusty BBC is afraid to cross certain political lines that might reflect negatively on the US forces. 

BBC is better than ABC, and it is not easy to pick the usual propaganda themes that are so obvious in many ABC stories, but BBC still leaves the readers in the dark about that which is not to be mentioned. 

Lately the ABC has taken to slamming other media sources, labelling them as fake news, when that in itself is more fake news from the ABC, meant to convince the gullible hooligans that their football team is better than the other side.  That is about the level of the ABC's mentality thesedays.




We must be watching different ABCs

No, more likely you're just stuck in the gullible hooligan mindset.  Pay close attention for a long time and you might see the pattern.



Isn't it just as likely you're in the paranoid rightard mindset.

No.
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Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 1:47pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 1:46pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 1:44pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 1:42pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 1:37pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 1:22pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 11:51am:
Fuzzball wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 11:44am:
Like the British BBC the Australian ABC is a Marxist shite spreading machine manned by self-serving champagne socialists feeding from the taxpayer's tit........the original purpose of an unbiased and honest news source for the population NEVER materialised.


Your post made me wonder about the honesty of the ABC back in the last century, even fifty years ago, and how their attitude may have changed over the last half century, or most importantly, when.

Was I just another gullible punter last century when I considered the 7pm ABC news the pinnacle of honest journalism, or have they changed their tune over this time?

What worries me is whether the ABC is just a reflection of our frucked up post-911 multicultural society ... or is it the cause?



That post made me wonder more about contacting the mental health services on Fuzzball.

The BBC is a lot more well-written, and the stories on their website do tend to offer more indepth reports, with more attention to different sides of a story. 

Still though, when it comes to serious international issues, eg. Syria and other such US enemies, it seems that even the trusty BBC is afraid to cross certain political lines that might reflect negatively on the US forces. 

BBC is better than ABC, and it is not easy to pick the usual propaganda themes that are so obvious in many ABC stories, but BBC still leaves the readers in the dark about that which is not to be mentioned. 

Lately the ABC has taken to slamming other media sources, labelling them as fake news, when that in itself is more fake news from the ABC, meant to convince the gullible hooligans that their football team is better than the other side.  That is about the level of the ABC's mentality thesedays.




We must be watching different ABCs

No, more likely you're just stuck in the gullible hooligan mindset.  Pay close attention for a long time and you might see the pattern.



Isn't it just as likely you're in the paranoid rightard mindset.

No.




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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 1:49pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 1:47pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 1:46pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 1:44pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 1:42pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 1:37pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 1:22pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 11:51am:
Fuzzball wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 11:44am:
Like the British BBC the Australian ABC is a Marxist shite spreading machine manned by self-serving champagne socialists feeding from the taxpayer's tit........the original purpose of an unbiased and honest news source for the population NEVER materialised.


Your post made me wonder about the honesty of the ABC back in the last century, even fifty years ago, and how their attitude may have changed over the last half century, or most importantly, when.

Was I just another gullible punter last century when I considered the 7pm ABC news the pinnacle of honest journalism, or have they changed their tune over this time?

What worries me is whether the ABC is just a reflection of our frucked up post-911 multicultural society ... or is it the cause?



That post made me wonder more about contacting the mental health services on Fuzzball.

The BBC is a lot more well-written, and the stories on their website do tend to offer more indepth reports, with more attention to different sides of a story. 

Still though, when it comes to serious international issues, eg. Syria and other such US enemies, it seems that even the trusty BBC is afraid to cross certain political lines that might reflect negatively on the US forces. 

BBC is better than ABC, and it is not easy to pick the usual propaganda themes that are so obvious in many ABC stories, but BBC still leaves the readers in the dark about that which is not to be mentioned. 

Lately the ABC has taken to slamming other media sources, labelling them as fake news, when that in itself is more fake news from the ABC, meant to convince the gullible hooligans that their football team is better than the other side.  That is about the level of the ABC's mentality thesedays.




We must be watching different ABCs

No, more likely you're just stuck in the gullible hooligan mindset.  Pay close attention for a long time and you might see the pattern.



Isn't it just as likely you're in the paranoid rightard mindset.

No.




Please show your working.

I'm not the public broadcaster.  It is all there for you to see.
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Have a look right now at ABC24 Bojack.  It's happening.
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Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 1:51pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 1:49pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 1:47pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 1:46pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 1:44pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 1:42pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 1:37pm:
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Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 11:51am:
Fuzzball wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 11:44am:
Like the British BBC the Australian ABC is a Marxist shite spreading machine manned by self-serving champagne socialists feeding from the taxpayer's tit........the original purpose of an unbiased and honest news source for the population NEVER materialised.


Your post made me wonder about the honesty of the ABC back in the last century, even fifty years ago, and how their attitude may have changed over the last half century, or most importantly, when.

Was I just another gullible punter last century when I considered the 7pm ABC news the pinnacle of honest journalism, or have they changed their tune over this time?

What worries me is whether the ABC is just a reflection of our frucked up post-911 multicultural society ... or is it the cause?



That post made me wonder more about contacting the mental health services on Fuzzball.

The BBC is a lot more well-written, and the stories on their website do tend to offer more indepth reports, with more attention to different sides of a story. 

Still though, when it comes to serious international issues, eg. Syria and other such US enemies, it seems that even the trusty BBC is afraid to cross certain political lines that might reflect negatively on the US forces. 

BBC is better than ABC, and it is not easy to pick the usual propaganda themes that are so obvious in many ABC stories, but BBC still leaves the readers in the dark about that which is not to be mentioned. 

Lately the ABC has taken to slamming other media sources, labelling them as fake news, when that in itself is more fake news from the ABC, meant to convince the gullible hooligans that their football team is better than the other side.  That is about the level of the ABC's mentality thesedays.




We must be watching different ABCs

No, more likely you're just stuck in the gullible hooligan mindset.  Pay close attention for a long time and you might see the pattern.



Isn't it just as likely you're in the paranoid rightard mindset.

No.




Please show your working.

I'm not the public broadcaster.  It is all there for you to see.




So therefore zero evidence.
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Did you see that last interview?  Did you listen to Amanda Ridgeworth (if that's correct spelling)?
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Did you see that last interview?  Did you listen to Amanda Ridgeworth (if that's correct spelling)?



Yes.
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Did you see that last interview?  Did you listen to Amanda Ridgeworth (if that's correct spelling)?



Yes.

Did you understand her twisted logic confusing private child-care providers with the so-called NGOs?  Did you get the ten dollar trick?
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I think essentially its confirmation bias on your part coupled with Dunning-Kruger.
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I think essentially its confirmation bias on your part coupled with Dunning-Kruger.

You missed it.  Listen more carefully from now on.
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I think essentially its confirmation bias on your part coupled with Dunning-Kruger.

You missed it.  Listen more carefully from now on.



Haha, so no chance of essential self-reflection on my point?
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I think essentially its confirmation bias on your part coupled with Dunning-Kruger.

You missed it.  Listen more carefully from now on.

Haha, so no chance of essential self-reflection on my point?

Have you ever been what you call a rightard before, Bojack?  Have you ever crossed over to the other side?
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Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:10pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:07pm:
I think essentially its confirmation bias on your part coupled with Dunning-Kruger.

You missed it.  Listen more carefully from now on.

Have you ever been what you call a rightard before, Bojack?  Have you ever crossed over to the other side?

Haha, so no chance of essential self-reflection on my point?





Yes by extreme leftists.
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Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:21pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:18pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:10pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:07pm:
I think essentially its confirmation bias on your part coupled with Dunning-Kruger.

You missed it.  Listen more carefully from now on.

Have you ever been what you call a rightard before, Bojack?  Have you ever crossed over to the other side?

Haha, so no chance of essential self-reflection on my point?





Yes by extreme leftists.

Don't you mean 'leftard'?  It still doesn't make any real sense.  When did you last vote Liberal?  Simple.
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:22pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:21pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:18pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:10pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:07pm:
I think essentially its confirmation bias on your part coupled with Dunning-Kruger.

You missed it.  Listen more carefully from now on.

Have you ever been what you call a rightard before, Bojack?  Have you ever crossed over to the other side?

Haha, so no chance of essential self-reflection on my point?





Yes by extreme leftists.

Don't you mean 'leftard'?  It still doesn't make any real sense.  When did you last vote Liberal?  Simple.



2004. Since then, 2007 voted Labor. Went Dems in 2010, a mixture. I'm your classic swinging voter.
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Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:23pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:22pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:21pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:18pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:10pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:07pm:
I think essentially its confirmation bias on your part coupled with Dunning-Kruger.

You missed it.  Listen more carefully from now on.

Have you ever been what you call a rightard before, Bojack?  Have you ever crossed over to the other side?

Haha, so no chance of essential self-reflection on my point?





Yes by extreme leftists.

Don't you mean 'leftard'?  It still doesn't make any real sense.  When did you last vote Liberal?  Simple.



2004. Since then, 2007 voted Labor. Went Dems in 2010, a mixture. I'm your classic swinging voter.

That's a relief.  What did you mean by Dems?  I thought they folded when Natasha Stott-Despoja got out of politics.
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:26pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:23pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:22pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:21pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:18pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:10pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:07pm:
I think essentially its confirmation bias on your part coupled with Dunning-Kruger.

You missed it.  Listen more carefully from now on.

Have you ever been what you call a rightard before, Bojack?  Have you ever crossed over to the other side?

Haha, so no chance of essential self-reflection on my point?





Yes by extreme leftists.

Don't you mean 'leftard'?  It still doesn't make any real sense.  When did you last vote Liberal?  Simple.



2004. Since then, 2007 voted Labor. Went Dems in 2010, a mixture. I'm your classic swinging voter.

That's a relief.  What did you mean by Dems?  I thought they folded when Natasha Stott-Despoja got out of politics.



No they still had candidates, just none elected. Last ACT election I went Bullet Train party.
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They last ran in a 2013 election.

Thanks Aussie.  I guess they couldn't keep the bastards honest.  Sad.
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They last ran in a 2013 election.

Thanks Aussie.  I guess they couldn't keep the bastards honest.  Sad.




Just watched the Media Watch on iView. Chris Mitchell from the Oz made some excellent points about the ABC which I do agree with.
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I'm also wondering whether or not "bias" at the ABC is a reflection not of the ABC but of the other commercial channels, in terms of the type of journalism they practice.
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I'm also wondering whether or not "bias" at the ABC is a reflection not of the ABC but of the other commercial channels, in terms of the type of journalism they practice.

Maybe there are people who watch the commercial news and see some kind of contrast with the ABC style.  I wouldn't know.  I haven't watched commerical news on tv this century.

PS:  I don't consider SBS commercial, even though they are plagued with them.
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I'm also wondering whether or not "bias" at the ABC is a reflection not of the ABC but of the other commercial channels, in terms of the type of journalism they practice.

Maybe there are people who watch the commercial news and see some kind of contrast with the ABC style.  I wouldn't know.  I haven't watched commerical news on tv this century.

PS:  I don't consider SBS commercial, even though they are plagued with them.



I don't think you got my point.
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:45pm:
I'm also wondering whether or not "bias" at the ABC is a reflection not of the ABC but of the other commercial channels, in terms of the type of journalism they practice.

Maybe there are people who watch the commercial news and see some kind of contrast with the ABC style.  I wouldn't know.  I haven't watched commerical news on tv this century.

PS:  I don't consider SBS commercial, even though they are plagued with them.



I don't think you got my point.

Perhaps you could reiterate then.  I thought you meant that people who watch the commercials only see the ABC as biased because it is different to what they know.  That excludes me.
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Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:23pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:22pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:21pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:18pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:10pm:
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I think essentially its confirmation bias on your part coupled with Dunning-Kruger.

You missed it.  Listen more carefully from now on.

Have you ever been what you call a rightard before, Bojack?  Have you ever crossed over to the other side?

Haha, so no chance of essential self-reflection on my point?





Yes by extreme leftists.

Don't you mean 'leftard'?  It still doesn't make any real sense.  When did you last vote Liberal?  Simple.



2004. Since then, 2007 voted Labor. Went Dems in 2010, a mixture. I'm your classic swinging voter.

What Dems in 2010?
  They disappeared in NSW long before then.

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The last of the party's state upper-house members, David Winderlich, resigned from the party in October 2009 and was defeated as an independent at the 2010 election.

In March 2012, the Australian Electoral Commission queried a Democrats submission of 550 names of purported members and proposed deregistering the party for having fewer than 500 members, the threshold needed for registration. The Commission later satisfied itself that the party had sufficient membership to continue its registration.

The Democrats did not nominate a single candidate in the 2014 South Australian election, in the party's state of origin.

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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:26pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:23pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:22pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:21pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:18pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:10pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:07pm:
I think essentially its confirmation bias on your part coupled with Dunning-Kruger.

You missed it.  Listen more carefully from now on.

Have you ever been what you call a rightard before, Bojack?  Have you ever crossed over to the other side?

Haha, so no chance of essential self-reflection on my point?





Yes by extreme leftists.

Don't you mean 'leftard'?  It still doesn't make any real sense.  When did you last vote Liberal?  Simple.



2004. Since then, 2007 voted Labor. Went Dems in 2010, a mixture. I'm your classic swinging voter.

What Dems in 2010?
  They disappeared in NSW long before then.

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In March 2012, the Australian Electoral Commission queried a Democrats submission of 550 names of purported members and proposed deregistering the party for having fewer than 500 members, the threshold needed for registration. The Commission later satisfied itself that the party had sufficient membership to continue its registration.

The Democrats did not nominate a single candidate in the 2014 South Australian election, in the party's state of origin.

On 16 April 2015, the Australian Electoral Commission deregistered the Australian Democrats as a political party for failure to demonstrate the requisite 500 members to maintain registration.



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I'm also wondering whether or not "bias" at the ABC is a reflection not of the ABC but of the other commercial channels, in terms of the type of journalism they practice.

Maybe there are people who watch the commercial news and see some kind of contrast with the ABC style.  I wouldn't know.  I haven't watched commerical news on tv this century.

PS:  I don't consider SBS commercial, even though they are plagued with them.



I don't think you got my point.

Perhaps you could reiterate then.  I thought you meant that people who watch the commercials only see the ABC as biased because it is different to what they know.  That excludes me.




No, I meant the journos and presenters.
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That's a relief.  What did you mean by Dems?  I thought they folded when Natasha Stott-Despoja got out of politics.


They last ran in a 2013 election.


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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:54pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:51pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:49pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:47pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:45pm:
I'm also wondering whether or not "bias" at the ABC is a reflection not of the ABC but of the other commercial channels, in terms of the type of journalism they practice.

Maybe there are people who watch the commercial news and see some kind of contrast with the ABC style.  I wouldn't know.  I haven't watched commerical news on tv this century.

PS:  I don't consider SBS commercial, even though they are plagued with them.



I don't think you got my point.

Perhaps you could reiterate then.  I thought you meant that people who watch the commercials only see the ABC as biased because it is different to what they know.  That excludes me.




No, I meant the journos and presenters.

Who cares what they think when they look in the mirror?  They are the hired help.
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Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 3:00pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:54pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:51pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:49pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:47pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:45pm:
I'm also wondering whether or not "bias" at the ABC is a reflection not of the ABC but of the other commercial channels, in terms of the type of journalism they practice.

Maybe there are people who watch the commercial news and see some kind of contrast with the ABC style.  I wouldn't know.  I haven't watched commerical news on tv this century.

PS:  I don't consider SBS commercial, even though they are plagued with them.



I don't think you got my point.

Perhaps you could reiterate then.  I thought you meant that people who watch the commercials only see the ABC as biased because it is different to what they know.  That excludes me.




No, I meant the journos and presenters.

Who cares what they think when they look in the mirror?  They are the hired help.


I think I'm going to have to treat you like a 3 yr old and explain it carefully and slowly. My point is that perhaps the journos who lean left look at say 60 minutes or Sunday night and think its not really serious hard hitting journalism, and think that the ABC is the last place for it, regardless of bias.
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Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 3:00pm:
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Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:51pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:49pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:47pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:45pm:
I'm also wondering whether or not "bias" at the ABC is a reflection not of the ABC but of the other commercial channels, in terms of the type of journalism they practice.

Maybe there are people who watch the commercial news and see some kind of contrast with the ABC style.  I wouldn't know.  I haven't watched commerical news on tv this century.

PS:  I don't consider SBS commercial, even though they are plagued with them.



I don't think you got my point.

Perhaps you could reiterate then.  I thought you meant that people who watch the commercials only see the ABC as biased because it is different to what they know.  That excludes me.




No, I meant the journos and presenters.

Who cares what they think when they look in the mirror?  They are the hired help.


I think I'm going to have to treat you like a 3 yr old and explain it carefully and slowly. My point is that perhaps the journos who lean left look at say 60 minutes or Sunday night and think its not really serious hard hitting journalism, and think that the ABC is the last place for it, regardless of bias.

Grasping at straws, Bojack.  Personal attacks are definitely the flavour of the month on the Clinton team thesedays.  I don't think a 3yo would understand your last effort either.
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Reply #83 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 3:11pm
 
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 3:09pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 3:06pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 3:00pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:54pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:51pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:49pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:47pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:45pm:
I'm also wondering whether or not "bias" at the ABC is a reflection not of the ABC but of the other commercial channels, in terms of the type of journalism they practice.

Maybe there are people who watch the commercial news and see some kind of contrast with the ABC style.  I wouldn't know.  I haven't watched commerical news on tv this century.

PS:  I don't consider SBS commercial, even though they are plagued with them.



I don't think you got my point.

Perhaps you could reiterate then.  I thought you meant that people who watch the commercials only see the ABC as biased because it is different to what they know.  That excludes me.




No, I meant the journos and presenters.

Who cares what they think when they look in the mirror?  They are the hired help.


I think I'm going to have to treat you like a 3 yr old and explain it carefully and slowly. My point is that perhaps the journos who lean left look at say 60 minutes or Sunday night and think its not really serious hard hitting journalism, and think that the ABC is the last place for it, regardless of bias.

Grasping at straws, Bojack.  Personal attacks are definitely the flavour of the month on the Clinton team thesedays.  I don't think a 3yo would understand your last effort either.


Yep, Dunning-Kruger.
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Reply #84 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 3:58pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:53pm:
Grendel wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:52pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:26pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:23pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:22pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:21pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:18pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:10pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:07pm:
I think essentially its confirmation bias on your part coupled with Dunning-Kruger.

You missed it.  Listen more carefully from now on.

Have you ever been what you call a rightard before, Bojack?  Have you ever crossed over to the other side?

Haha, so no chance of essential self-reflection on my point?





Yes by extreme leftists.

Don't you mean 'leftard'?  It still doesn't make any real sense.  When did you last vote Liberal?  Simple.



2004. Since then, 2007 voted Labor. Went Dems in 2010, a mixture. I'm your classic swinging voter.

What Dems in 2010?
  They disappeared in NSW long before then.

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The last of the party's state upper-house members, David Winderlich, resigned from the party in October 2009 and was defeated as an independent at the 2010 election.

In March 2012, the Australian Electoral Commission queried a Democrats submission of 550 names of purported members and proposed deregistering the party for having fewer than 500 members, the threshold needed for registration. The Commission later satisfied itself that the party had sufficient membership to continue its registration.

The Democrats did not nominate a single candidate in the 2014 South Australian election, in the party's state of origin.

On 16 April 2015, the Australian Electoral Commission deregistered the Australian Democrats as a political party for failure to demonstrate the requisite 500 members to maintain registration.



Who said I was in NSW?

I hate dealing with the disingenuous...
1/ I never said you lived in NSW.
2/ I asked a question, and as yet you've failed to answer it... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #85 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 4:00pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 3:58pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:53pm:
Grendel wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:52pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:26pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:23pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:22pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:21pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:18pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:10pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:07pm:
I think essentially its confirmation bias on your part coupled with Dunning-Kruger.

You missed it.  Listen more carefully from now on.

Have you ever been what you call a rightard before, Bojack?  Have you ever crossed over to the other side?

Haha, so no chance of essential self-reflection on my point?





Yes by extreme leftists.

Don't you mean 'leftard'?  It still doesn't make any real sense.  When did you last vote Liberal?  Simple.



2004. Since then, 2007 voted Labor. Went Dems in 2010, a mixture. I'm your classic swinging voter.

What Dems in 2010?
  They disappeared in NSW long before then.

Quote:
The last of the party's state upper-house members, David Winderlich, resigned from the party in October 2009 and was defeated as an independent at the 2010 election.

In March 2012, the Australian Electoral Commission queried a Democrats submission of 550 names of purported members and proposed deregistering the party for having fewer than 500 members, the threshold needed for registration. The Commission later satisfied itself that the party had sufficient membership to continue its registration.

The Democrats did not nominate a single candidate in the 2014 South Australian election, in the party's state of origin.

On 16 April 2015, the Australian Electoral Commission deregistered the Australian Democrats as a political party for failure to demonstrate the requisite 500 members to maintain registration.



Who said I was in NSW?

I hate dealing with the disingenuous...
1/ I never said you lived in NSW.
2/ I asked a question, and as yet you've failed to answer it... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

That means you win, Grendel.  Congratulations!

PS:  Also thank you very much for helping to clear up the dissonance that Bojack put in my mind over his 'swinging voter' comment.  Disingenuous is a perfect word.
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Reply #86 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 4:06pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 3:58pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:53pm:
Grendel wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:52pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:26pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:23pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:22pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:21pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:18pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:10pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:07pm:
I think essentially its confirmation bias on your part coupled with Dunning-Kruger.

You missed it.  Listen more carefully from now on.

Have you ever been what you call a rightard before, Bojack?  Have you ever crossed over to the other side?

Haha, so no chance of essential self-reflection on my point?





Yes by extreme leftists.

Don't you mean 'leftard'?  It still doesn't make any real sense.  When did you last vote Liberal?  Simple.



2004. Since then, 2007 voted Labor. Went Dems in 2010, a mixture. I'm your classic swinging voter.

What Dems in 2010?
  They disappeared in NSW long before then.

Quote:
The last of the party's state upper-house members, David Winderlich, resigned from the party in October 2009 and was defeated as an independent at the 2010 election.

In March 2012, the Australian Electoral Commission queried a Democrats submission of 550 names of purported members and proposed deregistering the party for having fewer than 500 members, the threshold needed for registration. The Commission later satisfied itself that the party had sufficient membership to continue its registration.

The Democrats did not nominate a single candidate in the 2014 South Australian election, in the party's state of origin.

On 16 April 2015, the Australian Electoral Commission deregistered the Australian Democrats as a political party for failure to demonstrate the requisite 500 members to maintain registration.



Who said I was in NSW?

I hate dealing with the disingenuous...
1/ I never said you lived in NSW.
2/ I asked a question, and as yet you've failed to answer it... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



There wewre Dem candidartes in ACT in 2010, I don't remember who. Done. Fine?
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Reply #87 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 4:08pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 4:06pm:
Grendel wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 3:58pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:53pm:
Grendel wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:52pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:26pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:23pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:22pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:21pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:18pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:10pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:07pm:
I think essentially its confirmation bias on your part coupled with Dunning-Kruger.

You missed it.  Listen more carefully from now on.

Have you ever been what you call a rightard before, Bojack?  Have you ever crossed over to the other side?

Haha, so no chance of essential self-reflection on my point?





Yes by extreme leftists.

Don't you mean 'leftard'?  It still doesn't make any real sense.  When did you last vote Liberal?  Simple.



2004. Since then, 2007 voted Labor. Went Dems in 2010, a mixture. I'm your classic swinging voter.

What Dems in 2010?
  They disappeared in NSW long before then.

Quote:
The last of the party's state upper-house members, David Winderlich, resigned from the party in October 2009 and was defeated as an independent at the 2010 election.

In March 2012, the Australian Electoral Commission queried a Democrats submission of 550 names of purported members and proposed deregistering the party for having fewer than 500 members, the threshold needed for registration. The Commission later satisfied itself that the party had sufficient membership to continue its registration.

The Democrats did not nominate a single candidate in the 2014 South Australian election, in the party's state of origin.

On 16 April 2015, the Australian Electoral Commission deregistered the Australian Democrats as a political party for failure to demonstrate the requisite 500 members to maintain registration.



Who said I was in NSW?

I hate dealing with the disingenuous...
1/ I never said you lived in NSW.
2/ I asked a question, and as yet you've failed to answer it... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



There wewre Dem candidartes in ACT in 2010, I don't remember who. Done. Fine?

Are you in the ACT?  Public or private funding?
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Reply #88 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 4:10pm
 
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 4:00pm:
Grendel wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 3:58pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:53pm:
Grendel wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:52pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:26pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:23pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:22pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:21pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:18pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:10pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:07pm:
I think essentially its confirmation bias on your part coupled with Dunning-Kruger.

You missed it.  Listen more carefully from now on.

Have you ever been what you call a rightard before, Bojack?  Have you ever crossed over to the other side?

Haha, so no chance of essential self-reflection on my point?





Yes by extreme leftists.

Don't you mean 'leftard'?  It still doesn't make any real sense.  When did you last vote Liberal?  Simple.



2004. Since then, 2007 voted Labor. Went Dems in 2010, a mixture. I'm your classic swinging voter.

What Dems in 2010?
  They disappeared in NSW long before then.

Quote:
The last of the party's state upper-house members, David Winderlich, resigned from the party in October 2009 and was defeated as an independent at the 2010 election.

In March 2012, the Australian Electoral Commission queried a Democrats submission of 550 names of purported members and proposed deregistering the party for having fewer than 500 members, the threshold needed for registration. The Commission later satisfied itself that the party had sufficient membership to continue its registration.

The Democrats did not nominate a single candidate in the 2014 South Australian election, in the party's state of origin.

On 16 April 2015, the Australian Electoral Commission deregistered the Australian Democrats as a political party for failure to demonstrate the requisite 500 members to maintain registration.



Who said I was in NSW?

I hate dealing with the disingenuous...
1/ I never said you lived in NSW.
2/ I asked a question, and as yet you've failed to answer it... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

That means you win, Grendel.  Congratulations!

PS:  Also thank you very much for helping to clear up the dissonance that Bojack put in my mind over his 'swinging voter' comment.  Disingenuous is a perfect word.


The only thing I may have been mistaken about was the 2010 part. But I have voted for Dems in the past, but it was a while back so I've forgotten. But I have voted Libs, I've voted Lab, etc.



So I apologise on the 2010 bit. But the rest of it you can shove up your dumb ass.
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I believe it was 2013.
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Reply #90 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 4:14pm
 
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I believe it was 2013.

Publically-funded.  Explains your bias towards the ABC.
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Do you mean am I a public servant? I do not work for a government department, I work in tertiary education.
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So will wait for the marxism calls I guess. Last class I taught was on Catholic Social thought principles. Which in a way, could seem Marxist, in that they are very socialist.
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Do you mean am I a public servant? I do not work for a government department, I work in tertiary education.

Publically funded.  Thank you for clarifying your personal bias, Bojack.

PS:  Why are you not at work today?
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Reply #94 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 4:22pm
 
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 4:19pm:
Do you mean am I a public servant? I do not work for a government department, I work in tertiary education.

Publically funded.  Thank you for clarifying your personal bias, Bojack.




Hahaha, what a shock. Or it could just be that I've been educated and trained to objectively view matters on the basis of my scientific background., and therefore don't see any bias where none exists.
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Reply #95 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 4:22pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:53pm:
Grendel wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:52pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:26pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:23pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:22pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:21pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:18pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:10pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:07pm:
I think essentially its confirmation bias on your part coupled with Dunning-Kruger.

You missed it.  Listen more carefully from now on.

Have you ever been what you call a rightard before, Bojack?  Have you ever crossed over to the other side?

Haha, so no chance of essential self-reflection on my point?





Yes by extreme leftists.

Don't you mean 'leftard'?  It still doesn't make any real sense.  When did you last vote Liberal?  Simple.



2004. Since then, 2007 voted Labor. Went Dems in 2010, a mixture. I'm your classic swinging voter.

What Dems in 2010?
  They disappeared in NSW long before then.

Quote:
The last of the party's state upper-house members, David Winderlich, resigned from the party in October 2009 and was defeated as an independent at the 2010 election.

In March 2012, the Australian Electoral Commission queried a Democrats submission of 550 names of purported members and proposed deregistering the party for having fewer than 500 members, the threshold needed for registration. The Commission later satisfied itself that the party had sufficient membership to continue its registration.

The Democrats did not nominate a single candidate in the 2014 South Australian election, in the party's state of origin.

On 16 April 2015, the Australian Electoral Commission deregistered the Australian Democrats as a political party for failure to demonstrate the requisite 500 members to maintain registration.


Who said I was in NSW?


Poor, poor, Geoff.  Amazing how willing he was once to overlook how few members the PHONies once had - three - Pauline and the two Davids.  Pauline and Ettridge went to prison over that little fraud.   They claimed they had 500 members.  They didn't, not in Pauline Hanson's One Nation Party.   Now he's all hot under the collar about the NSW Democrats.   Tsk, tsk, hey?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #96 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 4:22pm
 
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 4:19pm:
Do you mean am I a public servant? I do not work for a government department, I work in tertiary education.

Publically funded.  Thank you for clarifying your personal bias, Bojack.

PS:  Why are you not at work today?



WHo says I'm not. I know its hard for you to get one task right, but some of us can multitask. Currenly organising community engagement to Timor.
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Reply #97 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 4:25pm
 
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Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 4:20pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 4:19pm:
Do you mean am I a public servant? I do not work for a government department, I work in tertiary education.

Publically funded.  Thank you for clarifying your personal bias, Bojack.

PS:  Why are you not at work today?



WHo says I'm not. I know its hard for you to get one task right, but some of us can multitask. Currenly organising community engagement to Timor.

You don't get to 'multitask' and play your own personal fiddle when your on the taxpayers' dollar, Bojack.  That is stealing from your employer, and that would be me.  Get back to work, NOW!
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Reply #98 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 4:26pm
 
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 4:25pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 4:22pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 4:20pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 4:19pm:
Do you mean am I a public servant? I do not work for a government department, I work in tertiary education.

Publically funded.  Thank you for clarifying your personal bias, Bojack.

PS:  Why are you not at work today?



WHo says I'm not. I know its hard for you to get one task right, but some of us can multitask. Currenly organising community engagement to Timor.

You don't get to 'multitask' and play your own personal fiddle when your on the taxpayers' dollar, Bojack.  That is stealing from your employer, and that would be me.  Get back to work, NOW!




So given I've answered my emails, taught all my classes, have no marking to do, and currently just finished the last of my tasks, what do you suggest I do
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Reply #99 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 4:28pm
 
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Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 4:25pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 4:22pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 4:20pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 4:19pm:
Do you mean am I a public servant? I do not work for a government department, I work in tertiary education.

Publically funded.  Thank you for clarifying your personal bias, Bojack.

PS:  Why are you not at work today?



WHo says I'm not. I know its hard for you to get one task right, but some of us can multitask. Currenly organising community engagement to Timor.

You don't get to 'multitask' and play your own personal fiddle when your on the taxpayers' dollar, Bojack.  That is stealing from your employer, and that would be me.  Get back to work, NOW!




So given I've answered my emails, taught all my classes, have no marking to do, and currently just finished the last of my tasks, what do you suggest I do

Now you go and find a broom and sweep the frucking floor.  You have sold your time to the taxpayer, and every minute you are being paid, you are obliged to be 100% concentrating on your job.
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Reply #100 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 5:10pm
 
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Grendel wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 3:58pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:53pm:
Grendel wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:52pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:26pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:23pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:22pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:21pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:18pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:10pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:07pm:
I think essentially its confirmation bias on your part coupled with Dunning-Kruger.

You missed it.  Listen more carefully from now on.

Have you ever been what you call a rightard before, Bojack?  Have you ever crossed over to the other side?

Haha, so no chance of essential self-reflection on my point?





Yes by extreme leftists.

Don't you mean 'leftard'?  It still doesn't make any real sense.  When did you last vote Liberal?  Simple.



2004. Since then, 2007 voted Labor. Went Dems in 2010, a mixture. I'm your classic swinging voter.

What Dems in 2010?
  They disappeared in NSW long before then.

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The last of the party's state upper-house members, David Winderlich, resigned from the party in October 2009 and was defeated as an independent at the 2010 election.

In March 2012, the Australian Electoral Commission queried a Democrats submission of 550 names of purported members and proposed deregistering the party for having fewer than 500 members, the threshold needed for registration. The Commission later satisfied itself that the party had sufficient membership to continue its registration.

The Democrats did not nominate a single candidate in the 2014 South Australian election, in the party's state of origin.

On 16 April 2015, the Australian Electoral Commission deregistered the Australian Democrats as a political party for failure to demonstrate the requisite 500 members to maintain registration.



Who said I was in NSW?

I hate dealing with the disingenuous...
1/ I never said you lived in NSW.
2/ I asked a question, and as yet you've failed to answer it... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



There wewre Dem candidartes in ACT in 2010, I don't remember who. Done. Fine?

Nope....
Which Democrats?
What election?
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Grendel wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 5:10pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 4:06pm:
Grendel wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 3:58pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:53pm:
Grendel wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:52pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:26pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:23pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:22pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:21pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:18pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:10pm:
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I think essentially its confirmation bias on your part coupled with Dunning-Kruger.

You missed it.  Listen more carefully from now on.

Have you ever been what you call a rightard before, Bojack?  Have you ever crossed over to the other side?

Haha, so no chance of essential self-reflection on my point?





Yes by extreme leftists.

Don't you mean 'leftard'?  It still doesn't make any real sense.  When did you last vote Liberal?  Simple.



2004. Since then, 2007 voted Labor. Went Dems in 2010, a mixture. I'm your classic swinging voter.

What Dems in 2010?
  They disappeared in NSW long before then.

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The last of the party's state upper-house members, David Winderlich, resigned from the party in October 2009 and was defeated as an independent at the 2010 election.

In March 2012, the Australian Electoral Commission queried a Democrats submission of 550 names of purported members and proposed deregistering the party for having fewer than 500 members, the threshold needed for registration. The Commission later satisfied itself that the party had sufficient membership to continue its registration.

The Democrats did not nominate a single candidate in the 2014 South Australian election, in the party's state of origin.

On 16 April 2015, the Australian Electoral Commission deregistered the Australian Democrats as a political party for failure to demonstrate the requisite 500 members to maintain registration.



Who said I was in NSW?

I hate dealing with the disingenuous...
1/ I never said you lived in NSW.
2/ I asked a question, and as yet you've failed to answer it... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



There wewre Dem candidartes in ACT in 2010, I don't remember who. Done. Fine?

Nope....

What election?

Bojack is sweeping our floor for us now.  I am sure they'll be back whence they have knocked off work.

PS:  Remember to sweep left-handed for a few metres, and then change to right-handed for another few, otherwise you may hurt your back.
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Reply #102 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 5:18pm
 
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:22pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:21pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:18pm:
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I think essentially its confirmation bias on your part coupled with Dunning-Kruger.

You missed it.  Listen more carefully from now on.

Have you ever been what you call a rightard before, Bojack?  Have you ever crossed over to the other side?

Haha, so no chance of essential self-reflection on my point?





Yes by extreme leftists.

Don't you mean 'leftard'?  It still doesn't make any real sense.  When did you last vote Liberal?  Simple.



2004. Since then, 2007 voted Labor. Went Dems in 2010, a mixture. I'm your classic swinging voter.

What Dems in 2010?
  They disappeared in NSW long before then.

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The last of the party's state upper-house members, David Winderlich, resigned from the party in October 2009 and was defeated as an independent at the 2010 election.

In March 2012, the Australian Electoral Commission queried a Democrats submission of 550 names of purported members and proposed deregistering the party for having fewer than 500 members, the threshold needed for registration. The Commission later satisfied itself that the party had sufficient membership to continue its registration.

The Democrats did not nominate a single candidate in the 2014 South Australian election, in the party's state of origin.

On 16 April 2015, the Australian Electoral Commission deregistered the Australian Democrats as a political party for failure to demonstrate the requisite 500 members to maintain registration.


Who said I was in NSW?


Poor, poor, Geoff.  Amazing how willing he was once to overlook how few members the PHONies once had - three - Pauline and the two Davids.  Pauline and Ettridge went to prison over that little fraud.   They claimed they had 500 members.  They didn't, not in Pauline Hanson's One Nation Party.   Now he's all hot under the collar about the NSW Democrats.   Tsk, tsk, hey?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

poor bwian making up stories in that vacant lot he calls a head.
I forget nothing bwian...
I'm not hot under the collar about anything.
I used to vote Democrat if they hadn't lost the plot and stayed true to their original beginnings I'd probably still be voting for them.
I don't vote One Nation dopey...
As for your continuous libel inference re Hanson and Ettridge...  both released all charges QUASHED.

I POSTED AEC INFORMATION BWIAN...  trying to get info from another poster...  you idiot. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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For bwian who is an obsessive idiot...

quash
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get it bwian....  INVALID just like you opinions... Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #104 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 7:14pm
 
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Like the British BBC the Australian ABC is a Marxist shite spreading machine manned by self-serving champagne socialists feeding from the taxpayer's tit........the original purpose of an unbiased and honest news source for the population NEVER materialised.


Your post made me wonder about the honesty of the ABC back in the last century, even fifty years ago, and how their attitude may have changed over the last half century, or most importantly, when.

Was I just another gullible punter last century when I considered the 7pm ABC news the pinnacle of honest journalism, or have they changed their tune over this time?

What worries me is whether the ABC is just a reflection of our frucked up post-911 multicultural society ... or is it the cause?



That post made me wonder more about contacting the mental health services on Fuzzball.



And you could do that safely buttcrack without worrying that they'll take a keen interest in you?

You're a gutless little cretin.......
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Dnarever wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 9:51pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 8:30pm:
The money doesn't concern me.
But the indoctrination is appalling.
The ABC and the universities are reprehensible organisations.
There is talk that Shakespeare , Milton and Chaucer should be removed from university English courses as they represent colonialism and white privilege .

With so much very dangerous leftard ideology, the last thing we need is an openly Marxist and post modern media outlet doing further damage to the population.

A reprehensible and malevolent hotbed of resentful Marxists.

Appalling organisation


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Yes the conservatives hate education and balanced news.


no we hate "indocrination"


No you don't you all support news ltd - the right wing indoctrination service.
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Reply #106 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 7:21pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 9:31am:
Dnarever wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 7:53pm:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 7:39pm:
Shocked


What a fail !

Basing a topic on a poster built on so many untruths. It is just embarrassing to base a topic on nothing but lies.

Then I suggest you do something you almost always fail to do and prove the claims incorrect.  Funny you never notice anything wrong with Green-ALP "facts"...


You didn't notice the post showing that the claim of bias in repeatedly proven to be incorrect or the one showing that more ABC jurno's have represented the Liberals than Labor. That is two of the silly claims debunked with zero effort.

Anyone with half the IQ of a dead turkey would have instantly seen that at least half the claims were utter garbage.
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Grendel wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 9:31am:
Dnarever wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 7:53pm:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 7:39pm:
Shocked


What a fail !

Basing a topic on a poster built on so many untruths. It is just embarrassing to base a topic on nothing but lies.

Then I suggest you do something you almost always fail to do and prove the claims incorrect.  Funny you never notice anything wrong with Green-ALP "facts"...


You didn't notice the post showing that the claim of bias in repeatedly proven to be incorrect or the one showing that more ABC jurno's have represented the Liberals than Labor. That is two of the silly claims debunked with zero effort.

Anyone with half the IQ of a dead turkey would have instantly seen that at least half the claims were utter garbage.

You mean like the last report by Ray Martin? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin

You missed the claims upheld by the tribunal brought by Alston years ago?
No?
Whats it like being a braindead Turkey? Roll Eyes
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Reply #108 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 7:28pm
 
No need to defund it just sell it off.

Maybe Gina could buy it and save taxpayers over $1billion a year.
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Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:33pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:30pm:
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That's a relief.  What did you mean by Dems?  I thought they folded when Natasha Stott-Despoja got out of politics.


They last ran in a 2013 election.

Thanks Aussie.  I guess they couldn't keep the bastards honest.  Sad.


Their problem came when they stood solidly against the GST and then swapped sides after the election. The people who voted Dem in the belief that it was a vote against the GST never forgave them and never voted Dem again. That was 90% of their vote gone overnight never ever to return.

The Democrats became the bastards who needed to be kept honest.
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Reply #110 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 7:41pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 7:27pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 7:21pm:
Grendel wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 9:31am:
Dnarever wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 7:53pm:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 7:39pm:
Shocked


What a fail !

Basing a topic on a poster built on so many untruths. It is just embarrassing to base a topic on nothing but lies.

Then I suggest you do something you almost always fail to do and prove the claims incorrect.  Funny you never notice anything wrong with Green-ALP "facts"...


You didn't notice the post showing that the claim of bias in repeatedly proven to be incorrect or the one showing that more ABC jurno's have represented the Liberals than Labor. That is two of the silly claims debunked with zero effort.

Anyone with half the IQ of a dead turkey would have instantly seen that at least half the claims were utter garbage.

You mean like the last report by Ray Martin? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin

You missed the claims upheld by the tribunal brought by Alston years ago?
No?
Whats it like being a braindead Turkey? Roll Eyes


Not sure how you can conclude one action years ago that I admittedly have no memory of would skew the ABC for decades - seems like a very simple claim Mr B D Turkey. No substance ???
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Reply #111 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 7:46pm
 
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Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:33pm:
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That's a relief.  What did you mean by Dems?  I thought they folded when Natasha Stott-Despoja got out of politics.


They last ran in a 2013 election.

Thanks Aussie.  I guess they couldn't keep the bastards honest.  Sad.


Their problem came when they stood solidly against the GST and then swapped sides after the election. The people who voted Dem in the belief that it was a vote against the GST never forgave them and never voted Dem again. That was 90% of their vote gone overnight never ever to return.

The Democrats became the bastards who needed to be kept honest.

Thanks for refreshing my memory, mate.  I guess it was one of my repressded memories.  I lose track of them sometimes as they mount up IYKWIM?

I am heartbroken that Natasha couldn't be the new Jesus like I wanted.
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Reply #112 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 8:12pm
 
Just a few biased Leftards from the ABC and Liberal / National party.


Note: the poster in the lead post claims that there are none - Zero ??? Typical of the accuracy of the claims.

Sarah Henderson,  host of the Victorian edition of the 7.30 Report, newsreader for Channel Ten Melbourne and reporter for the acclaimed ABC-TV program, The Investigators. 2010, she contested the federal election as the endorsed Liberal candidate for Corangamite,

Dai Le, stood as the Liberal candiate for the seat of Cabramatta at the October 2008 byelection and again in the March 2011 NSW state poll. Dai was a journalist with the ABC from 1994 until 2008.

Gary Hardgrave, a former minister in the Howard government, is a former journalist with the Brisbane bureau of the ABC's 7.30 Report.


Peter Collins, leader of the Liberal Party in NSW for several years, was also a former ABC TV journalist.

Pru Goward, a Canberra-based high-profile ABC journalist, who reported on federal politics for several years.  She was the Liberal representative for the state seat of Goulburn, NSW.

Rob Messenger was an ABC radio broadcaster in Bundaberg.  He then went on to become the National Party member for Burnett in the Queensland Parliament.

Grant Woodhams, National Party member for Greenough in WA, worked with ABC radio in Tasmania, South Australia, NSW and Victoria.

Eoin Cameron, the former Liberal member for the federal seat of Stirling, presents the breakfast program on ABC local radio in Perth.

Cameron Thompson worked for the ABC in Longreach and Darwin before winning the federal seat of Blair for the Liberal Party.

Scott Emerson, a former ABC journalist, won the Queensland state Parliament seat of Indooroopilly for the Liberal National Party.

Ian Cover, a member of the ABC’s Coodabeen Champions, served as a Liberal member of the Victorian Parliament between 1996 and 2002.

Peter McArthur, a former current affairs reporter and TV newsreader for the ABC, served several years in the Victorian state Parliament as a Liberal member.

Bruce Webster was a sports broadcaster for the ABC and later the Liberal member for Pittwater in the NSW Parliament.

Peter Kennedy, worked for ABC news then was later the unsuccessful liberal candiate for the seat of Bendigo.

ABC staff who went on to be Coalition staffers: Michael Duffy, presented Counterpoint on ABC's Radio National, he now works for the NSW Liberal government. Chris Wordsworth, after resigning as ABC Queensland state director in 2008, became a Coalition staffer. Cathy Job, a current affairs presenter for ABC radio in Brisbane, became a media adviser to David Kemp after resigning from the ABC. Vicki Thompson, a senior political reporter for ABC radio in Adelaide, became chief of staff for John Olsen, Liberal premier of South Australia. Chris Nicholls, an Adelaide ABC journalist, went on to work for Liberal Senator Grant Chapman. Jim Bonner, after leaving the staff of Malcolm Fraser, held senior editorial positions with ABC radio and television in Canberra and Adelaide.  He later assumed the position of director of the Liberal Party in South Australia. Ken Crooke, state director of the National Party for 13 years, and a close associate of Premier Joh Bjelke-Petersen, was an ABC journalist before taking up his position with the National Party. Mark Tobin, the veteran ABC 702 state political reporter who left the public broadcaster to work as a media adviser to NSW premier Barry O'Farrell. Josephine Cafagna, former State 7.30 Report presenter went onto become head of strategic communications for Victorian Premier Ted Baillieu. (And while it's going the other way, we feel obliged to include ABC Managing Director Mark Scott on this list - in his younger times he worked for then NSW Liberal education minister Terry Metherell). Allen Callaghan, a former Brisbane ABC staffer, became the late Queensland premier Sir Joh Bjelke-Petersens media adviser.

Lib Supporters - strong on opinion but weak on fact.   


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Reply #113 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 8:13pm
 
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 7:46pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 7:31pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:33pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:30pm:
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That's a relief.  What did you mean by Dems?  I thought they folded when Natasha Stott-Despoja got out of politics.


They last ran in a 2013 election.

Thanks Aussie.  I guess they couldn't keep the bastards honest.  Sad.


Their problem came when they stood solidly against the GST and then swapped sides after the election. The people who voted Dem in the belief that it was a vote against the GST never forgave them and never voted Dem again. That was 90% of their vote gone overnight never ever to return.

The Democrats became the bastards who needed to be kept honest.

Thanks for refreshing my memory, mate.  I guess it was one of my repressded memories.  I lose track of them sometimes as they mount up IYKWIM?

I am heartbroken that Natasha couldn't be the new Jesus like I wanted.


The Democrats were finished when Gareth Evans banged Cheryl Kernot.


Of course the lefties never said anything about this yet are butthurt over Barnaby having an affair.
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Reply #114 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 8:17pm
 
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 7:46pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 7:31pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:33pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 2:30pm:
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That's a relief.  What did you mean by Dems?  I thought they folded when Natasha Stott-Despoja got out of politics.


They last ran in a 2013 election.

Thanks Aussie.  I guess they couldn't keep the bastards honest.  Sad.


Their problem came when they stood solidly against the GST and then swapped sides after the election. The people who voted Dem in the belief that it was a vote against the GST never forgave them and never voted Dem again. That was 90% of their vote gone overnight never ever to return.

The Democrats became the bastards who needed to be kept honest.

Thanks for refreshing my memory, mate.  I guess it was one of my repressded memories.  I lose track of them sometimes as they mount up IYKWIM?

I am heartbroken that Natasha couldn't be the new Jesus like I wanted.


Yes that is a shame but I never had that particular expectation. She was very good in my opinion.
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Reply #115 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 8:32pm
 
Don't forget Janis Petersen's waist. Can the ABC but please don't stop the 6:30 news on SBS!!!!
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Dnarever wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 8:09pm:
Jasin wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 7:58pm:
Television/Media is really the realm of Oceania and its bias towards Europe, Asia & Africa as a priority more than Australia, Namerica, Middle-East & Samerica.

Lets face it. The Media/TV is 'un-Australian', just as Trump is showing the world how 'un-American' it has been all along.


I love your comments, I can never work out if it means anything but it terrific anyway.


Oh well. That's the difference between me and YOU.
I'm a 'Day Ahead' (of America) Aussie
&
you're a 'Down Under' (of America) Aussie.

We're both down the bottom, but I'm just first in line  Wink


...and if you can't work that one out, then I rest my case  Wink Grin
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Reply #117 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 9:15pm
 
Jasin wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 9:09pm:
Dnarever wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 8:09pm:
Jasin wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 7:58pm:
Television/Media is really the realm of Oceania and its bias towards Europe, Asia & Africa as a priority more than Australia, Namerica, Middle-East & Samerica.

Lets face it. The Media/TV is 'un-Australian', just as Trump is showing the world how 'un-American' it has been all along.


I love your comments, I can never work out if it means anything but it terrific anyway.


Oh well. That's the difference between me and YOU.
I'm a 'Day Ahead' (of America) Aussie
&
you're a 'Down Under' (of America) Aussie.

We're both down the bottom, but I'm just first in line  Wink


...and if you can't work that one out, then I rest my case  Wink Grin

Okay yeah true if you like but did you see that flowing rose-coloured top she was wearing last night? 

She was just glorious!

Why goodness knows but this boy couldn't get any sleep last night after Janis live in colour. 

I don't think that they should drop SBS, and Lee Lin Chin is a welcome respite on the weekends too. 

Too much Janis Petersen will give a man RSI without a break, and what do you think that might do to the budget deficit? 

I think we must ensure we have Lee on the weekends or we'd be in serious trouble with the health costs in the long term forecasts!
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I've got nothing against people of other 'race'.
I love 'yellow' women, people.
But I much prefer the Australian 'styled', rather than the 'Asian' ones  Wink

Give me a yellow chick who can slam a beer back, talk Strine backwards and is 6ft plus and long legged.
I couldn't be bothered with the American versions of 4ft nothing and "me no speak English"  Roll Eyes
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Jasin wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 9:23pm:
I've got nothing against people of other 'race'.
I love 'yellow' women, people.
But I much prefer the Australian 'styled', rather than the 'Asian' ones  Wink

Give me a yellow chick who can slam a beer back, talk Strine backwards and is 6ft plus and long legged.
I couldn't be bothered with the American versions of 4ft nothing and "me no speak English"  Roll Eyes

I suggest you write a letter to the SBS and tell them to change the newsreader then.  Janis is good for me, long time hansum man.
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Imrah wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 9:26pm:
Jasin wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 9:23pm:
I've got nothing against people of other 'race'.
I love 'yellow' women, people.
But I much prefer the Australian 'styled', rather than the 'Asian' ones  Wink

Give me a yellow chick who can slam a beer back, talk Strine backwards and is 6ft plus and long legged.
I couldn't be bothered with the American versions of 4ft nothing and "me no speak English"  Roll Eyes

I suggest you write a letter to the SBS and tell them to change the newsreader then.  Janis is good for me, long time hansum man.


You'll never get an 'Australian' Yellow on TV, regardless of channel.
TV is living in an African/Asian/European/Oceania 'world'.
Anything Australian/Namerican/Samerican/Middle-Eastern seems left wanting ...but for the Internet.

So you only get 'Asian' yellows on TV, regardless if its Janis or Lee: both are "Love you long timeJasin says: 'no speak English"  Roll Eyes '
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Dnarever wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 7:41pm:
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President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 7:39pm:
Shocked


What a fail !

Basing a topic on a poster built on so many untruths. It is just embarrassing to base a topic on nothing but lies.

Then I suggest you do something you almost always fail to do and prove the claims incorrect.  Funny you never notice anything wrong with Green-ALP "facts"...


You didn't notice the post showing that the claim of bias in repeatedly proven to be incorrect or the one showing that more ABC jurno's have represented the Liberals than Labor. That is two of the silly claims debunked with zero effort.

Anyone with half the IQ of a dead turkey would have instantly seen that at least half the claims were utter garbage.

You mean like the last report by Ray Martin? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin

You missed the claims upheld by the tribunal brought by Alston years ago?
No?
Whats it like being a braindead Turkey? Roll Eyes


Not sure how you can conclude one action years ago that I admittedly have no memory of would skew the ABC for decades - seems like a very simple claim Mr B D Turkey. No substance ???

Because I'm politically aware and watch and listen a lot to the ABC I have a very good idea about them and their political bias. 
As for the Turkey YOU started that didn't you calling people who know better than you names...  I suggest you run along now... Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #122 - Jun 27th, 2018 at 10:03am
 
Fuzzball wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 7:14pm:
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Like the British BBC the Australian ABC is a Marxist shite spreading machine manned by self-serving champagne socialists feeding from the taxpayer's tit........the original purpose of an unbiased and honest news source for the population NEVER materialised.


Your post made me wonder about the honesty of the ABC back in the last century, even fifty years ago, and how their attitude may have changed over the last half century, or most importantly, when.

Was I just another gullible punter last century when I considered the 7pm ABC news the pinnacle of honest journalism, or have they changed their tune over this time?

What worries me is whether the ABC is just a reflection of our frucked up post-911 multicultural society ... or is it the cause?



That post made me wonder more about contacting the mental health services on Fuzzball.



And you could do that safely buttcrack without worrying that they'll take a keen interest in you?

You're a gutless little cretin.......



Awww there there my 90 pound weakling. Let me take that cane for you.
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That's a relief.  What did you mean by Dems?  I thought they folded when Natasha Stott-Despoja got out of politics.


They last ran in a 2013 election.


A federal election?  How many candidates ran?


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Reply #124 - Jun 27th, 2018 at 11:41am
 
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That's a relief.  What did you mean by Dems?  I thought they folded when Natasha Stott-Despoja got out of politics.


They last ran in a 2013 election.


A federal election?  How many candidates ran?


Yes, a Federal election.  Do your own research.  That's what you tell others.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_Australian_federal_election,_2013_(...


Dem candidate there. AS I said I thought it was 2010, but it must have been 2013. All I remember is voting Dem at one point in time.


I suspect I may have voted Dem in 2004 cause of Latham.
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That's a relief.  What did you mean by Dems?  I thought they folded when Natasha Stott-Despoja got out of politics.


They last ran in a 2013 election.


A federal election?  How many candidates ran?


Yes, a Federal election.  Do your own research.  That's what you tell others.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_Australian_federal_election,_2013_(...


Dem candidate there. AS I said I thought it was 2010, but it must have been 2013. All I remember is voting Dem at one point in time.


I suspect I may have voted Dem in 2004 cause of Latham.


There were at least two candidates....Darren Churchill in the seat of Fraser, ACT and Matthew Corica in the seat of Pearce, WA.  I stopped looking down a very long list of candidates after I found those two.
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I suspect I may have voted Dem in 2004 cause of Latham.

I thought you wrote yesterday that you voted Liberal in 2004.  That was the original concern after you tried to label me a 'rightard' with zero evidence.
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I suspect I may have voted Dem in 2004 cause of Latham.

I thought you wrote yesterday that you voted Liberal in 2004.  That was the original concern after you tried to label me a 'rightard' with zero evidence.


Sorry, I will have to check my written diary dating back that far to what I voted on that day.


I mean, everyone should have a written record of what they voted on each election dating back 40 years shouldnt they?
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I suspect I may have voted Dem in 2004 cause of Latham.

I thought you wrote yesterday that you voted Liberal in 2004.  That was the original concern after you tried to label me a 'rightard' with zero evidence.


Sorry, I will have to check my written diary dating back that far to what I voted on that day.


I mean, everyone should have a written record of what they voted on each election dating back 40 years shouldnt they?

Very funny.  I take it that yesterday when you told me that you were a 'classic swinging voter' you were imagining that you were a swinging voter who had voted Liberal before, when in actual fact, you have never voted Liberal in your entire life. 

It seems that the 'swing' on your voting might be getting a bit rusty, Bojack.
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I suspect I may have voted Dem in 2004 cause of Latham.

I thought you wrote yesterday that you voted Liberal in 2004.  That was the original concern after you tried to label me a 'rightard' with zero evidence.


Sorry, I will have to check my written diary dating back that far to what I voted on that day.


I mean, everyone should have a written record of what they voted on each election dating back 40 years shouldnt they?

Very funny.  I take it that yesterday when you told me that you were a 'classic swinging voter' you were imagining that you were a swinging voter who had voted Liberal before, when in actual fact, you have never voted Liberal in your entire life. 

It seems that the 'swing' on your voting might be getting a bit rusty, Bojack.



I def voted Libs 1996. Mostly cause I thought Keating had done his dash. But again I'll check my written records.
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I suspect I may have voted Dem in 2004 cause of Latham.

I thought you wrote yesterday that you voted Liberal in 2004.  That was the original concern after you tried to label me a 'rightard' with zero evidence.


Sorry, I will have to check my written diary dating back that far to what I voted on that day.


I mean, everyone should have a written record of what they voted on each election dating back 40 years shouldnt they?

Very funny.  I take it that yesterday when you told me that you were a 'classic swinging voter' you were imagining that you were a swinging voter who had voted Liberal before, when in actual fact, you have never voted Liberal in your entire life. 

It seems that the 'swing' on your voting might be getting a bit rusty, Bojack.



I def voted Libs 1996. Mostly cause I thought Keating had done his dash. But again I'll check my written records.

Right, and after yesterday's imaginary 2004 llib' vote, your written word is worth how much today exactly?

Let's assume that you have been a leftard all your life whilst I have swung both ways.  I went to uni too, so I know what those places do to poor kids' minds.
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I suspect I may have voted Dem in 2004 cause of Latham.

I thought you wrote yesterday that you voted Liberal in 2004.  That was the original concern after you tried to label me a 'rightard' with zero evidence.


Sorry, I will have to check my written diary dating back that far to what I voted on that day.


I mean, everyone should have a written record of what they voted on each election dating back 40 years shouldnt they?

Very funny.  I take it that yesterday when you told me that you were a 'classic swinging voter' you were imagining that you were a swinging voter who had voted Liberal before, when in actual fact, you have never voted Liberal in your entire life. 

It seems that the 'swing' on your voting might be getting a bit rusty, Bojack.



I def voted Libs 1996. Mostly cause I thought Keating had done his dash. But again I'll check my written records.

Right, and after yesterday's imaginary 2004 llib' vote, your written word is worth how much today exactly?

Let's assume that you have been a leftard all your life whilst I have swung both ways.  I went to uni too, so I know what those places do to poor kids' minds. 




About as valuable as anyone else word is. As I said, I can't remember exactly how I voted in particular elections (bad memory or lack of caring) but I know I have voted Libs, Labor, Dems and Bullet Train in at least one election in my adult life.


And by went, I assume fail?
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I suspect I may have voted Dem in 2004 cause of Latham.

I thought you wrote yesterday that you voted Liberal in 2004.  That was the original concern after you tried to label me a 'rightard' with zero evidence.


Sorry, I will have to check my written diary dating back that far to what I voted on that day.


I mean, everyone should have a written record of what they voted on each election dating back 40 years shouldnt they?

Very funny.  I take it that yesterday when you told me that you were a 'classic swinging voter' you were imagining that you were a swinging voter who had voted Liberal before, when in actual fact, you have never voted Liberal in your entire life. 

It seems that the 'swing' on your voting might be getting a bit rusty, Bojack.



I def voted Libs 1996. Mostly cause I thought Keating had done his dash. But again I'll check my written records.

Right, and after yesterday's imaginary 2004 llib' vote, your written word is worth how much today exactly?

Let's assume that you have been a leftard all your life whilst I have swung both ways.  I went to uni too, so I know what those places do to poor kids' minds. 


What? Uni taught me what I needed to know in my chosen fields.  I don['t remember any propaganda since it was about the subject not politics.

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Reply #133 - Jun 27th, 2018 at 12:33pm
 
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I suspect I may have voted Dem in 2004 cause of Latham.

I thought you wrote yesterday that you voted Liberal in 2004.  That was the original concern after you tried to label me a 'rightard' with zero evidence.


Sorry, I will have to check my written diary dating back that far to what I voted on that day.


I mean, everyone should have a written record of what they voted on each election dating back 40 years shouldnt they?

Very funny.  I take it that yesterday when you told me that you were a 'classic swinging voter' you were imagining that you were a swinging voter who had voted Liberal before, when in actual fact, you have never voted Liberal in your entire life. 

It seems that the 'swing' on your voting might be getting a bit rusty, Bojack.



I def voted Libs 1996. Mostly cause I thought Keating had done his dash. But again I'll check my written records.

Right, and after yesterday's imaginary 2004 llib' vote, your written word is worth how much today exactly?

Let's assume that you have been a leftard all your life whilst I have swung both ways.  I went to uni too, so I know what those places do to poor kids' minds. 


What? Uni taught me what I needed to know in my chosen fields.  I don['t remember any propaganda since it was about the subject not politics.

Spot




Maybe its being in a science, but my experience was much the same. Too busy studying content to worry about anything else.
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Reply #134 - Jun 27th, 2018 at 12:49pm
 
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About as valuable as anyone else word is.

On the contrary, Bojack.  Until someone tells a lie, they are generally assumed to be telling the truth.  Otherwise we would have to assume that everything written here is fiction, defeating the purpose of discussion. 

To refresh your memory, you disagree with me about the ABC leftward bias and rather than argue the point, you have attacked me by labelling me a 'rightard'.  As I suspected by that childish word trick, you have resorted to a typical leftwing, (leftard to use your usual vernacular), cliche' which is really just a cheap shot, and was in fact quite inaccurate. 

I have already written here in the past week that I was pleased when Rudd won in 2007.  You were just out of valid arguments so out of desperation you resorted to a personal attack like that.  It is not the way to prove a point, Bojack.

Get this.  I am not a 'rightard' and the ABC is a left-wing propaganda machine funded by the taxpayer, just like your efforts here today.  It would be in Australians' best interests if we were to privatise the both of you.
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Well my emphasis was more on paranoid, and IME anyone who whines about bias at the ABC is usually right wing.
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Do you realise how pathetic that kind of generalisation is?  You have devalued the discussion to the level of bigoted football hooligans.
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Well my emphasis was more on paranoid, and IME anyone who whines about bias at the ABC is usually right wing.


Do you realise how pathetic that kind of generalisation is?  You have devalued the discussion to the level of bigoted football hooligans.




And saying the ABC is biased and therefore moust be privatised hasn't?
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Well my emphasis was more on paranoid, and IME anyone who whines about bias at the ABC is usually right wing.


Do you realise how pathetic that kind of generalisation is?  You have devalued the discussion to the level of bigoted football hooligans.


And saying the ABC is biased and therefore moust be privatised hasn't?

Okay, sorry.  I was having a bit of a snide dig at you both.  I believe that it is good for Australia to have a public broadcaster. 

I would just like to see one that can remain objective in the reporting, not one that regularly leaves out blatantly obvious sides of a story which do not fit with the agenda.  It becomes so easy to pick the underlying motives of the journalist after a while.  Sometimes it is clear that they have a personal grudge against something.  Other times it seems that they are just following the standard line. 

The ABC has made it clear that they expect their journalists to 'educate' the reader.  I prefer a reporter to report facts, whether they fit the ABC agenda or not.  I do not want to be 're-educated' like some Chinese dissident, particularly when so much of the time the journalist is quite halfwitted in their logic.  This is what our glorious US reality-tv star cum president defines as fake news.
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ANd I think thats what they do
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ANd I think thats what they do

I am not going to waste more time trying to explain to you where you are wrong.  Read Michelle Grattan's recent work and take it from there.
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ANd I think thats what they do

I am not going to waste more time trying to explain to you where you are wrong.  Read Michelle Grattan's recent work and take it from there.




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ANd I think thats what they do

I am not going to waste more time trying to explain to you where you are wrong.  Read Michelle Grattan's recent work and take it from there.




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Ominous that you mention Timor in a thread on ABC journalists.  It would be a bit of a nasty extreme to suggest you take Grattan and four of her workmates with you, so I won't write it.  That would be too evil.
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Well my emphasis was more on paranoid, and IME anyone who whines about bias at the ABC is usually right wing.


Do you realise how pathetic that kind of generalisation is?  You have devalued the discussion to the level of bigoted football hooligans.




And saying the ABC is biased and therefore moust be privatised hasn't?

I said it is biased...  LW biased....  but I don't want it privatised.
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That's a relief.  What did you mean by Dems?  I thought they folded when Natasha Stott-Despoja got out of politics.


They last ran in a 2013 election.


A federal election?  How many candidates ran?


Yes, a Federal election.  Do your own research.  That's what you tell others.

hey...  you are making the claims...  you need to provide the proof that's what all you LW Progs do.

You just don't know...  you expect me to do all the work as usual... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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So basically what Aussie is trying not to say is that the Australian democrats were a spent force after Meg Lees was booted by the LW of the Party.
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So basically what Aussie is trying not to say is that the Australian democrats were a spent force after Meg Lees was booted by the LW of the Party.


Don't lie about what I said Grendel.  That is very unbecomming of you.

I said that the Australian Democrats ran in the 2013 Federal election.  Are you saying I am wrong?
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ANd I think thats what they do

I am not going to waste more time trying to explain to you where you are wrong.  Read Michelle Grattan's recent work and take it from there.




Too busy organising for Timor

Ominous that you mention Timor in a thread on ABC journalists.  It would be a bit of a nasty extreme to suggest you take Grattan and four of her workmates with you, so I won't write it.  That would be too evil.



But you did write it. Charming.
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Reply #148 - Jun 27th, 2018 at 4:10pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 4:01pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 3:02pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 2:58pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 2:38pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 2:32pm:
ANd I think thats what they do

I am not going to waste more time trying to explain to you where you are wrong.  Read Michelle Grattan's recent work and take it from there.




Too busy organising for Timor

Ominous that you mention Timor in a thread on ABC journalists.  It would be a bit of a nasty extreme to suggest you take Grattan and four of her workmates with you, so I won't write it.  That would be too evil.



But you did write it. Charming.

No I didn't.  I just happened to read about the Balibo 5 once again a few nights ago in a Courtenay novel and so naturally it would come to mind when we are discussing ABC journalists and you mention Timor.

Don't they call it Timor Leste' now?  That would have been enough to separate the past from the present.
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Reply #149 - Jun 27th, 2018 at 4:17pm
 
Imrah wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 3:02pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 2:58pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 2:38pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 2:32pm:
ANd I think thats what they do

I am not going to waste more time trying to explain to you where you are wrong.  Read Michelle Grattan's recent work and take it from there.




Too busy organising for Timor

Ominous that you mention Timor in a thread on ABC journalists.  It would be a bit of a nasty extreme to suggest you take Grattan and four of her workmates with you, so I won't write it.  That would be too evil.




It would be a bit of a nasty extreme to suggest you take Grattan and four of her workmates with you, so I won't write it. 


But by typing it, you did in fact write it. And yes Timor-Leste is the official name but everyone just says Timor, a bit like everyone says Wagga rather than Wagga Wagga
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Reply #150 - Jun 27th, 2018 at 4:18pm
 
Imrah wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 4:10pm:
No I didn't.  I just happened to read about the Balibo 5 once again a few nights ago in a Courtenay novel and so naturally it would come to mind when we are discussing ABC journalists and you mention Timor.

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Why did that come up? None of the Balibo Five worked for the ABC.
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Reply #151 - Jun 27th, 2018 at 4:24pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 4:17pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 3:02pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 2:58pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 2:38pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 2:32pm:
ANd I think thats what they do

I am not going to waste more time trying to explain to you where you are wrong.  Read Michelle Grattan's recent work and take it from there.




Too busy organising for Timor

Ominous that you mention Timor in a thread on ABC journalists.  It would be a bit of a nasty extreme to suggest you take Grattan and four of her workmates with you, so I won't write it.  That would be too evil.




It would be a bit of a nasty extreme to suggest you take Grattan and four of her workmates with you, so I won't write it. 


But by typing it, you did in fact write it. And yes Timor-Leste is the official name but everyone just says Timor, a bit like everyone says Wagga rather than Wagga Wagga

Bojack my friend, I only wanted to let you know what crossed my mind but on consideration of the terrible results automatic weapons can offer, and with respect to that tragedy in 1975, I also wanted you to know that I would not be the usual kind of extremist that we have all come to know and love here, and argue for the death penalty for corrupt ABC journalists.  I am sure that there are more civilised ways that we can flay them into shape if we put our heads together and work out something that meets a higher standard of humane morality.

For example, I could be the Official Editor of Everything, and that woudl make the bastards honest.
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Reply #152 - Jun 27th, 2018 at 4:25pm
 
Yeah, but that would just replace one bias with another. Not a solution.
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Reply #153 - Jun 27th, 2018 at 4:33pm
 
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Yeah, but that would just replace one bias with another. Not a solution.

But, but Bojack, you know I've told you I swing both ways, don't you?  What could possibly be biased about me?
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Reply #154 - Jun 27th, 2018 at 4:37pm
 
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Yeah, but that would just replace one bias with another. Not a solution.

But, but Bojack, you know I've told you I swing both ways, don't you?  What could possibly be biased about me?



Well you've already displayed confirmation bias, I also diagnose Dunning-Kruger.
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Reply #155 - Jun 27th, 2018 at 4:42pm
 
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Yeah, but that would just replace one bias with another. Not a solution.

But, but Bojack, you know I've told you I swing both ways, don't you?  What could possibly be biased about me?



Well you've already displayed confirmation bias, I also diagnose Dunning-Kruger.

Yes, but you have some kind of dementia, remember?  You couldn't even remember who you voted for in 2004, so your diagnoses are dubious at best and disgraceful at worst.
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Reply #156 - Jun 27th, 2018 at 4:44pm
 
Imrah wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 4:42pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 4:37pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 4:33pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 4:25pm:
Yeah, but that would just replace one bias with another. Not a solution.

But, but Bojack, you know I've told you I swing both ways, don't you?  What could possibly be biased about me?



Well you've already displayed confirmation bias, I also diagnose Dunning-Kruger.

Yes, but you have some kind of dementia, remember?  You couldn't even remember who you voted for in 2004, so your diagnoses are dubious at best and disgraceful at worst.




A bit of long term memory loss regarding poo that isn't that important.
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Reply #157 - Jun 27th, 2018 at 4:46pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 4:44pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 4:42pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 4:37pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 4:33pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 4:25pm:
Yeah, but that would just replace one bias with another. Not a solution.

But, but Bojack, you know I've told you I swing both ways, don't you?  What could possibly be biased about me?



Well you've already displayed confirmation bias, I also diagnose Dunning-Kruger.

Yes, but you have some kind of dementia, remember?  You couldn't even remember who you voted for in 2004, so your diagnoses are dubious at best and disgraceful at worst.




A bit of long term memory loss regarding poo that isn't that important.

So you don't associate Dunning-Kruger with your own excuses for your mental infirmities?
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Reply #158 - Jun 27th, 2018 at 4:48pm
 
Imrah wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 4:46pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 4:44pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 4:42pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 4:37pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 4:33pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 4:25pm:
Yeah, but that would just replace one bias with another. Not a solution.

But, but Bojack, you know I've told you I swing both ways, don't you?  What could possibly be biased about me?



Well you've already displayed confirmation bias, I also diagnose Dunning-Kruger.

Yes, but you have some kind of dementia, remember?  You couldn't even remember who you voted for in 2004, so your diagnoses are dubious at best and disgraceful at worst.




A bit of long term memory loss regarding poo that isn't that important.

So you don't associate Dunning-Kruger with your own excuses for your mental infirmities?



Not really, see I'm admitting the memory loss about non-important stuff. Dunning-Kruger would imply that I have a perfect memory and I was just misunderstood by yourself.
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Reply #159 - Jun 27th, 2018 at 4:57pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 4:48pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 4:46pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 4:44pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 4:42pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 4:37pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 4:33pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 4:25pm:
Yeah, but that would just replace one bias with another. Not a solution.

But, but Bojack, you know I've told you I swing both ways, don't you?  What could possibly be biased about me?



Well you've already displayed confirmation bias, I also diagnose Dunning-Kruger.

Yes, but you have some kind of dementia, remember?  You couldn't even remember who you voted for in 2004, so your diagnoses are dubious at best and disgraceful at worst.




A bit of long term memory loss regarding poo that isn't that important.

So you don't associate Dunning-Kruger with your own excuses for your mental infirmities?



Not really, see I'm admitting the memory loss about non-important stuff. Dunning-Kruger would imply that I have a perfect memory and I was just misunderstood by yourself.

You believe that after accusing me of being a 'rightard', to which I then asked you whether you have ever voted Liberal, and you then stated that you voted Liberal in 2004, to prove that you were a 'classic swinging voter', (which was a lie), bolstering your ridiculous personal insult against me with blatant dishonesty, that it was not important?

Sonny boy, I think you may have been multitasking a bit too much lately.
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Reply #160 - Jun 27th, 2018 at 4:59pm
 
I think you're focusing too much on trying to prove me wrong, and not just proving me wrong.
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I think you're focusing too much on trying to prove me wrong, and not just proving me wrong.

You insulted me, and then you told a lie to try to validate your insult, and now you tell me that it was not important.  I guess that's where the term 'leftard' came from.  Someone wrote a beautiful word to describe you last night, Bojack.  Disingenuous.  No wonder you vote labor.
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Or Dem or Libs./



BUt then why so much focus on me Imrah? Is that obsession?
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Or Dem or Libs./



BUt then why so much focus on me Imrah? Is that obsession?

I am not the one here in this discussion on taxpayers' money, Bojack.  In your case, it is not an obsession, it is a downright crime. 

If you want to get back to sweeping the floor, then admit that you insulted me and then lied to me and apologise twice, and then this discussion can be laid to rest.
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Reply #164 - Jun 27th, 2018 at 5:11pm
 
You are aware theres privately owned unis right.


Who said I'm at work?
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Reply #165 - Jun 27th, 2018 at 5:12pm
 
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Or Dem or Libs./



BUt then why so much focus on me Imrah? Is that obsession?

I am not the one here in this discussion on taxpayers' money, Bojack.  In your case, it is not an obsession, it is a downright crime. 

If you want to get back to sweeping the floor, then admit that you insulted me and then lied to me and apologise twice, and then this discussion can be laid to rest.


I reckon your slip is showing.
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Reply #166 - Jun 27th, 2018 at 5:12pm
 
Imrah wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 5:10pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 5:07pm:
Or Dem or Libs./



BUt then why so much focus on me Imrah? Is that obsession?

I am not the one here in this discussion on taxpayers' money, Bojack.  In your case, it is not an obsession, it is a downright crime. 

If you want to get back to sweeping the floor, then admit that you insulted me and then lied to me and apologise twice, and then this discussion can be laid to rest.




No admission other than the fact I got the years confused around will be forthcoming. If you don't like that, feel free to sit on this middle digit and rotate til you squeal like a little girl.
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Reply #167 - Jun 27th, 2018 at 5:15pm
 
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You are aware theres privately owned unis right.


Who said I'm at work?

Yes but you are in Canberra, so stop lying, Julia.

You said you are busy preparing for Timor, if I might refresh your memory.  You are not only an offensive and dishonest, but now you are trying to be SNEAKY! !
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Reply #168 - Jun 27th, 2018 at 5:18pm
 
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 5:11pm:
You are aware theres privately owned unis right.


Who said I'm at work?

Yes but you are in Canberra, so stop lying, Julia.

You said you are busy preparing for Timor, if I might refresh your memory.  You are not only an offensive and dishonest, but now you are trying to be [b]SNEAKY![/] !




Preparation=packing. I can't do that at work.
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Reply #169 - Jun 27th, 2018 at 5:24pm
 
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You are aware theres privately owned unis right.


Who said I'm at work?

Yes but you are in Canberra, so stop lying, Julia.

You said you are busy preparing for Timor, if I might refresh your memory.  You are not only an offensive and dishonest, but now you are trying to be SNEAKY! !


Gawd.  Get yer glad rags orf, Imrah.  It's gone past the slip....and now your panties can be seen.
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Reply #170 - Jun 27th, 2018 at 5:27pm
 
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Imrah wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 5:15pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 5:11pm:
You are aware theres privately owned unis right.


Who said I'm at work?

Yes but you are in Canberra, so stop lying, Julia.

You said you are busy preparing for Timor, if I might refresh your memory.  You are not only an offensive and dishonest, but now you are trying to be SNEAKY! !




Preparation=packing. I can't do that at work.

Just like you voted liberal in 2004, you don't work Wednesdays, but stay home to play on the Internet, I believe you Bojack, every frucking word.  HA!  Kiss
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Reply #171 - Jun 27th, 2018 at 5:30pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 5:24pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 5:15pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 5:11pm:
You are aware theres privately owned unis right.


Who said I'm at work?

Yes but you are in Canberra, so stop lying, Julia.

You said you are busy preparing for Timor, if I might refresh your memory.  You are not only an offensive and dishonest, but now you are trying to be SNEAKY! !


Gawd.  Get yer glad rags orf, Imrah.  It's gone past the slip....and now your panties can be seen.

I won't insult lawyers but only the 'leftards' who don't know the meaning of integrity.  Why do you care if Bojack is a lying bastard?  Why would you care if he is trying to weasel out of it?  That's the norm for politics at the ALP.
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Reply #172 - Jun 27th, 2018 at 5:30pm
 
Imrah wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 5:27pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 5:18pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 5:15pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 5:11pm:
You are aware theres privately owned unis right.


Who said I'm at work?

Yes but you are in Canberra, so stop lying, Julia.

You said you are busy preparing for Timor, if I might refresh your memory.  You are not only an offensive and dishonest, but now you are trying to be SNEAKY! !




Preparation=packing. I can't do that at work.

Just like you voted liberal in 2004, you don't work Wednesdays, but stay home to play on the Internet, I believe you Bojack, every frucking word.  HA!  Kiss




Cheers, Lisa.......ooops I meant Imrah.
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Reply #173 - Jun 27th, 2018 at 5:33pm
 
The ABC is biased.  That is why it shoudl be defunded back to the basics until they can learn objectivity and justify their public funding.
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Reckon you were right the first time.

What's the go with the Timor trip.  I know a bloke who might help open some doors.
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Grendel wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 3:41pm:
So basically what Aussie is trying not to say is that the Australian democrats were a spent force after Meg Lees was booted by the LW of the Party.


Don't lie about what I said Grendel.  That is very unbecomming of you.

I said that the Australian Democrats ran in the 2013 Federal election.  Are you saying I am wrong?

No I said you posted something you were clueless about when you posted it.
Now that is true isn't it? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
I forced you to look it up so you learned something.

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Reply #176 - Jun 27th, 2018 at 10:22pm
 
The ABC is a wonderfully beneficial institution, but not when it comes to politics and social issues. The problem is with the editorial staff. There needs to be an overhaul of policy, so that opposing views are given similar air time. At present, that policy does not represent the population. The current administration has to change or go.
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Grendel wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 9:35am:
tickleandrose wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 9:26am:
ABC is needed to balance out the private broadcasters here in Australia.  Not only from a political point of view, but also saving us from hour to hour mindless and cheap reality TV shows. 

As a centralist, I believe the ABC is quiet balanced.  It only looked to some of you as being extreme left wing, because of your own extremist right wing views. 

Firstly it isn't balanced nor is SBS.  Unless of course you count the childrens programs and purely entertainment shows like the drama series or movies it shows.

Any political commentary panel show current affairs program etc has a distinct progressive Left lean.  Denial of that FACT is simply denial. Roll Eyes



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Grendel wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 10:04pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 3:47pm:
Grendel wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 3:41pm:
So basically what Aussie is trying not to say is that the Australian democrats were a spent force after Meg Lees was booted by the LW of the Party.


Don't lie about what I said Grendel.  That is very unbecomming of you.

I said that the Australian Democrats ran in the 2013 Federal election.  Are you saying I am wrong?

No I said you posted something you were clueless about when you posted it.
Now that is true isn't it? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
I forced you to look it up so you learned something.


My point however is still and always will be valid and based on knowledge.


Incorrect.  I checked before I made the Post.  After your whingeing, I did further searches to get the name of some candidates.

So......you are quite wrong, again, Grendel.

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The problem is the incestuous nature or the political bias in the ABC... to cut the cancer out of the ABC at this stage may leave less of the patient in tact than what you toss away.

We all know this is true.

The question is what can be done if the organisation has failed to abide by its Charter...
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Reply #180 - Jun 28th, 2018 at 1:54pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 1:06pm:
Grendel wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 10:04pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 3:47pm:
Grendel wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 3:41pm:
So basically what Aussie is trying not to say is that the Australian democrats were a spent force after Meg Lees was booted by the LW of the Party.


Don't lie about what I said Grendel.  That is very unbecomming of you.

I said that the Australian Democrats ran in the 2013 Federal election.  Are you saying I am wrong?

No I said you posted something you were clueless about when you posted it.
Now that is true isn't it? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
I forced you to look it up so you learned something.


My point however is still and always will be valid and based on knowledge.


Incorrect.  I checked before I made the Post.  After your whingeing, I did further searches to get the name of some candidates.

So......you are quite wrong, again, Grendel.

Cool

prove it....  quite simply you cant and you are a know liar Aussie... Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #181 - Jun 28th, 2018 at 1:55pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 1:06pm:
Grendel wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 10:04pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 3:47pm:
Grendel wrote on Jun 27th, 2018 at 3:41pm:
So basically what Aussie is trying not to say is that the Australian democrats were a spent force after Meg Lees was booted by the LW of the Party.


Don't lie about what I said Grendel.  That is very unbecomming of you.

I said that the Australian Democrats ran in the 2013 Federal election.  Are you saying I am wrong?

No I said you posted something you were clueless about when you posted it.
Now that is true isn't it? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
I forced you to look it up so you learned something.


My point however is still and always will be valid and based on knowledge.


Incorrect.  I checked before I made the Post.  After your whingeing, I did further searches to get the name of some candidates.

So......you are quite wrong, again, Grendel.

Cool

prove it....  quite simply you cant and you are a know liar Aussie... Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

BTW your answer points to me being 100% correct. Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #182 - Jun 28th, 2018 at 1:55pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 1:54pm:
The problem is the incestuous nature or the political bias in the ABC... to cut the cancer out of the ABC at this stage may leave less of the patient in tact than what you toss away.

We all know this is true.

The question is what can be done if the organisation has failed to abide by its Charter...



“Australians told us that their trust of the ABC is driven by its lack of bias and impartiality, quality journalism and ethics."

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Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 1:54pm:
The question is what can be done if the organisation has failed to abide by its Charter...


Demote them to the National Weather Service until they can stop advocating for climate change.
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Meanwhile back on topic...

Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 1:54pm:
The problem is the incestuous nature or the political bias in the ABC... to cut the cancer out of the ABC at this stage may leave less of the patient intact than what you toss away.

We all know this is true.

The question is what can be done if the organisation has failed to abide by its Charter...

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Reply #185 - Jun 28th, 2018 at 1:59pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 1:57pm:
Meanwhile back on topic...

Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 1:54pm:
The problem is the incestuous nature or the political bias in the ABC... to cut the cancer out of the ABC at this stage may leave less of the patient intact than what you toss away.

We all know this is true.

The question is what can be done if the organisation has failed to abide by its Charter..
.



“Australians told us that their trust of the ABC is driven by its lack of bias and impartiality, quality journalism and ethics."
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Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 1:57pm:
Meanwhile back on topic...

Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 1:54pm:
The problem is the incestuous nature or the political bias in the ABC... to cut the cancer out of the ABC at this stage may leave less of the patient intact than what you toss away.

We all know this is true.

The question is what can be done if the organisation has failed to abide by its Charter...


See above.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 1:59pm:
Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 1:57pm:
Meanwhile back on topic...

Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 1:54pm:
The problem is the incestuous nature or the political bias in the ABC... to cut the cancer out of the ABC at this stage may leave less of the patient intact than what you toss away.

We all know this is true.

The question is what can be done if the organisation has failed to abide by its Charter..
.



“Australians told us that their trust of the ABC is driven by its lack of bias and impartiality, quality journalism and ethics."

Which particular infirmary or asylum did they survey those Australians at?
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All those inner city trendites who work for the ABC must be s hitting themselves. The gravy train is about to end. Grin Grin
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Imrah wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 2:01pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 1:59pm:
Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 1:57pm:
Meanwhile back on topic...

Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 1:54pm:
The problem is the incestuous nature or the political bias in the ABC... to cut the cancer out of the ABC at this stage may leave less of the patient intact than what you toss away.

We all know this is true.

The question is what can be done if the organisation has failed to abide by its Charter..
.



“Australians told us that their trust of the ABC is driven by its lack of bias and impartiality, quality journalism and ethics."

Which particular infirmary or asylum did they survey those Australians at?


https://www.yourlifechoices.com.au/news/most-trusted-media-outlet-revealed?utm_m...
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Reply #190 - Jun 28th, 2018 at 2:14pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 2:08pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 2:01pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 1:59pm:
Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 1:57pm:
Meanwhile back on topic...

Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 1:54pm:
The problem is the incestuous nature or the political bias in the ABC... to cut the cancer out of the ABC at this stage may leave less of the patient intact than what you toss away.

We all know this is true.

The question is what can be done if the organisation has failed to abide by its Charter..
.



“Australians told us that their trust of the ABC is driven by its lack of bias and impartiality, quality journalism and ethics."

Which particular infirmary or asylum did they survey those Australians at?


https://www.yourlifechoices.com.au/news/most-trusted-media-outlet-revealed?utm_m...

When is the postal plebicite scheduled?
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Reply #191 - Jun 28th, 2018 at 2:17pm
 
Imrah wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 2:14pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 2:08pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 2:01pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 1:59pm:
Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 1:57pm:
Meanwhile back on topic...

Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 1:54pm:
The problem is the incestuous nature or the political bias in the ABC... to cut the cancer out of the ABC at this stage may leave less of the patient intact than what you toss away.

We all know this is true.

The question is what can be done if the organisation has failed to abide by its Charter..
.



“Australians told us that their trust of the ABC is driven by its lack of bias and impartiality, quality journalism and ethics."

Which particular infirmary or asylum did they survey those Australians at?


https://www.yourlifechoices.com.au/news/most-trusted-media-outlet-revealed?utm_m...

When is the postal plebicite scheduled?


Why would we need a postal plebiscite, when only nine per cent of Australians distrust the ABC?


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greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 2:17pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 2:14pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 2:08pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 2:01pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 1:59pm:
Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 1:57pm:
Meanwhile back on topic...

Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 1:54pm:
The problem is the incestuous nature or the political bias in the ABC... to cut the cancer out of the ABC at this stage may leave less of the patient intact than what you toss away.

We all know this is true.

The question is what can be done if the organisation has failed to abide by its Charter..
.



“Australians told us that their trust of the ABC is driven by its lack of bias and impartiality, quality journalism and ethics."

Which particular infirmary or asylum did they survey those Australians at?


https://www.yourlifechoices.com.au/news/most-trusted-media-outlet-revealed?utm_m...

When is the postal plebicite scheduled?


Why would we need a postal plebiscite, when only nine per cent of Australians distrust the ABC?



Greggery, nine percent of some unknown website is not nine percent of a nation.  We need a plebicite before there is anymore funding allocated for those dubious charlatans.
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Greggery, nine percent of some unknown website is not nine percent of a nation.  We need a plebicite before there is anymore funding allocated for those dubious charlatans.


What is that gibber about?  Morgan surveyed 5111 people and a mere 9% of those surveyed distrust the ABC.

Do you understand, "Imrah?"
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Aussie wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 2:28pm:
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Greggery, nine percent of some unknown website is not nine percent of a nation.  We need a plebicite before there is anymore funding allocated for those dubious charlatans.


What is that gibber about?  Morgan surveyed 5111 people and a mere 9% of those surveyed distrust the ABC.

Do you understand, "Imrah?"

No Aussie.  I don't understand.
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Imrah wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 2:33pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 2:28pm:
Quote:
Greggery, nine percent of some unknown website is not nine percent of a nation.  We need a plebicite before there is anymore funding allocated for those dubious charlatans.


What is that gibber about?  Morgan surveyed 5111 people and a mere 9% of those surveyed distrust the ABC.

Do you understand, "Imrah?"

No Aussie.  I don't understand.


What bit don't you understand?

It's pretty straight forward.

Most people (more than 90%) trust the ABC.

Why would we need a postal plebiscite?

It makes no sense at all.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 2:36pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 2:33pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 2:28pm:
Quote:
Greggery, nine percent of some unknown website is not nine percent of a nation.  We need a plebicite before there is anymore funding allocated for those dubious charlatans.


What is that gibber about?  Morgan surveyed 5111 people and a mere 9% of those surveyed distrust the ABC.

Do you understand, "Imrah?"

No Aussie.  I don't understand.


What bit don't you understand?

It's pretty straight forward.

Most people (more than 90%) trust the ABC.

Why would we need a postal plebiscite?

It makes no sense at all.



I suspect that comment of hers was an attempt at some sort of humour.
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Imrah wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 2:22pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 2:17pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 2:14pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 2:08pm:
Imrah wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 2:01pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 1:59pm:
Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 1:57pm:
Meanwhile back on topic...

Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 1:54pm:
The problem is the incestuous nature or the political bias in the ABC... to cut the cancer out of the ABC at this stage may leave less of the patient intact than what you toss away.

We all know this is true.

The question is what can be done if the organisation has failed to abide by its Charter..
.



“Australians told us that their trust of the ABC is driven by its lack of bias and impartiality, quality journalism and ethics."

Which particular infirmary or asylum did they survey those Australians at?


https://www.yourlifechoices.com.au/news/most-trusted-media-outlet-revealed?utm_m...

When is the postal plebicite scheduled?


Why would we need a postal plebiscite, when only nine per cent of Australians distrust the ABC?



Greggery, nine percent of some unknown website is not nine percent of a nation.  We need a plebicite before there is anymore funding allocated for those dubious charlatans.


"unknown website" ?

What are you talking about?

Are you not familiar with Roy Morgan's work?

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Roy Morgan Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
Most inaccurate polster ever.
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Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 1:57pm:
Meanwhile back on topic...

Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 1:54pm:
The problem is the incestuous nature or the political bias in the ABC... to cut the cancer out of the ABC at this stage may leave less of the patient intact than what you toss away.

We all know this is true.

The question is what can be done if the organisation has failed to abide by its Charter...


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Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 3:07pm:
Roy Morgan Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
Most inaccurate polster ever.


Link/evidence/reference?
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Anyone with an ounce of street smarts knows that the ABC so extreme Left Wing it isn't funny Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

If only only it was balanced in its broadcasts

Greens, Balmain Basket weavers and Apologists are in with the ABC...Out are Conservatives and mainstream points of  view

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Apparently ninety percent of punters who love their ABC don't think they are biased.
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See here is your ego going rampant again. 
(Ego does not equal intellect Mozzaok.)


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Anyone with an ounce of street smarts knows that the ABC so extreme Left Wing it isn't funny Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Which means that Mr Baron believes the ABC is so extreme left it isn't funny...and ergo, anyone who thinks differently from him does not have an ounce of street smarts.

QED.
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Reply #205 - Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:09pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 3:07pm:
Roy Morgan Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
Most inaccurate polster ever.


Rigged poll?

Is that what you're saying now?

Really   Roll Eyes

Tell us, Goose Boy, what pollster would you trust?

No abuse, no side-tracking, no changing the subject.

Which polling organisation would you trust?


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They should introduce a TV Licence like they have in the UK. They pay about £150 a year in the UK, which would mean Aussies would pay about $260 a year.  Wink
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red baron wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 3:44pm:
Anyone with an ounce of street smarts knows that the ABC so extreme Left Wing it isn't funny Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

If only only it was balanced in its broadcasts

Greens, Balmain Basket weavers and Apologists are in with the ABC...Out are Conservatives and mainstream points of  view



You're in the (ignorant) minority, Mr Baron.

“Australians told us that their trust of the ABC is driven by its lack of bias and impartiality, quality journalism and ethics."
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:10pm:
red baron wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 3:44pm:
Anyone with an ounce of street smarts knows that the ABC so extreme Left Wing it isn't funny Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

If only only it was balanced in its broadcasts

Greens, Balmain Basket weavers and Apologists are in with the ABC...Out are Conservatives and mainstream points of  view



You're in the (ignorant) minority, Mr Baron.

“Australians told us that their trust of the ABC is driven by its lack of bias and impartiality, quality journalism and ethics."

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Aussie wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 3:19pm:
Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 3:07pm:
Roy Morgan Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
Most inaccurate polster ever.


Link/evidence/reference?

common knowledge oh font of all political wisdom...  didn't you know?
Do your own research Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:15pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 3:19pm:
Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 3:07pm:
Roy Morgan Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
Most inaccurate polster ever.


Link/evidence/reference?

common knowledge oh font of all political wisdom...  didn't you know?
Do your own research Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Oh.....see ~ there is that ego again.  Grendel thinks that Morgan is the most inaccurate polster.....therefore it is common knowledge.

"Wassup Grendel.....got nothing, as usual?"
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JollyGreenGiant wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:09pm:
They should introduce a TV Licence like they have in the UK. They pay about £150 a year in the UK, which would mean Aussies would pay about $260 a year.  Wink


We had that once, but I reckon technology made Government's grab for cash unworkable, so they abandoned it.  Dunno when.
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Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:15pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:10pm:
red baron wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 3:44pm:
Anyone with an ounce of street smarts knows that the ABC so extreme Left Wing it isn't funny Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

If only only it was balanced in its broadcasts

Greens, Balmain Basket weavers and Apologists are in with the ABC...Out are Conservatives and mainstream points of  view



You're in the (ignorant) minority, Mr Baron.

“Australians told us that their trust of the ABC is driven by its lack of bias and impartiality, quality journalism and ethics."

Which Australians did they ask?


I don't have their names and addresses.

If you go to their website, I'm sure there'll be a description of  their methodology.

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Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:15pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 3:19pm:
Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 3:07pm:
Roy Morgan Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
Most inaccurate polster ever.


Link/evidence/reference?

common knowledge oh font of all political wisdom...  didn't you know?
Do your own research Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


They're one of the most respected polling organisations in the world.

However, let's forget that for the moment.

In your opinion, which polling organisation should we trust?

I'm curious.
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Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:15pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:10pm:
red baron wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 3:44pm:
Anyone with an ounce of street smarts knows that the ABC so extreme Left Wing it isn't funny Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

If only only it was balanced in its broadcasts

Greens, Balmain Basket weavers and Apologists are in with the ABC...Out are Conservatives and mainstream points of  view



You're in the (ignorant) minority, Mr Baron.

“Australians told us that their trust of the ABC is driven by its lack of bias and impartiality, quality journalism and ethics."

Which Australians did they ask?


Here you go, BP:

https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/7641-media-net-trust-june-2018-201806260239

"Respondents were recruited from the Roy Morgan Single Source database (>600,000)".


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Reply #215 - Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:35pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:09pm:
Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 3:07pm:
Roy Morgan Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
Most inaccurate polster ever.


Rigged poll?

Is that what you're saying now?

Really   Roll Eyes

Tell us, Goose Boy, what pollster would you trust?

No abuse, no side-tracking, no changing the subject.

Which polling organisation would you trust?



No didn't say that...  but nice attempt to lie about me...  failed though...  completely. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

For years RM have been on the nose...  and wrong. Grin
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Reply #216 - Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:35pm
 
We asked approximately 4,000 Australians

Then in May 2018 we conducted an additional survey of 1,111 Australians


Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #217 - Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:37pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:35pm:
We asked approximately 4,000 Australians

Then in May 2018 we conducted an additional survey of 1,111 Australians


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What's so funny?

Didn't you study statistics in Uni?

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Reply #218 - Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:38pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:35pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:09pm:
Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 3:07pm:
Roy Morgan Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
Most inaccurate polster ever.


Rigged poll?

Is that what you're saying now?

Really   Roll Eyes

Tell us, Goose Boy, what pollster would you trust?

No abuse, no side-tracking, no changing the subject.

Which polling organisation would you trust?



No didn't say that...  but nice attempt to lie about me...  failed though...  completely. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

For years RM have been on the nose...  and wrong. Grin


Which polling organisation would you trust?

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Reply #219 - Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:41pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:37pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:35pm:
We asked approximately 4,000 Australians

Then in May 2018 we conducted an additional survey of 1,111 Australians


Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


What's so funny?

Didn't you study statistics in Uni?


Yep. 5,000 people out of 24 million won't give you an accurate picture Pecca. It's a numbers thing. This snapshot is way too low.
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Reply #220 - Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:45pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:41pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:37pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:35pm:
We asked approximately 4,000 Australians

Then in May 2018 we conducted an additional survey of 1,111 Australians


Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


What's so funny?

Didn't you study statistics in Uni?


Yep. 5,000 people out of 24 million won't give you an accurate picture Pecca. It's a numbers thing. This snapshot is way too low.


I look forward to seeing your own polling figures then.

You can post them on my board if you like.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?board=abc


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Reply #221 - Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:49pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:45pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:41pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:37pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:35pm:
We asked approximately 4,000 Australians

Then in May 2018 we conducted an additional survey of 1,111 Australians


Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


What's so funny?

Didn't you study statistics in Uni?


Yep. 5,000 people out of 24 million won't give you an accurate picture Pecca. It's a numbers thing. This snapshot is way too low.


I look forward to seeing your own polling figures then.

You can post them on my board if you like.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?board=abc



move along pecca.
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Reply #222 - Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:52pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:49pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:45pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:41pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:37pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:35pm:
We asked approximately 4,000 Australians

Then in May 2018 we conducted an additional survey of 1,111 Australians


Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


What's so funny?

Didn't you study statistics in Uni?


Yep. 5,000 people out of 24 million won't give you an accurate picture Pecca. It's a numbers thing. This snapshot is way too low.


I look forward to seeing your own polling figures then.

You can post them on my board if you like.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?board=abc



move along pecca.


White flag accepted.


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Reply #223 - Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:56pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:52pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:49pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:45pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:41pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:37pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:35pm:
We asked approximately 4,000 Australians

Then in May 2018 we conducted an additional survey of 1,111 Australians


Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


What's so funny?

Didn't you study statistics in Uni?


Yep. 5,000 people out of 24 million won't give you an accurate picture Pecca. It's a numbers thing. This snapshot is way too low.


I look forward to seeing your own polling figures then.

You can post them on my board if you like.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?board=abc



move along pecca.


White flag accepted.



Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #224 - Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:57pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:38pm:
Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:35pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:09pm:
Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 3:07pm:
Roy Morgan Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
Most inaccurate polster ever.


Rigged poll?

Is that what you're saying now?

Really   Roll Eyes

Tell us, Goose Boy, what pollster would you trust?

No abuse, no side-tracking, no changing the subject.

Which polling organisation would you trust?



No didn't say that...  but nice attempt to lie about me...  failed though...  completely. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

For years RM have been on the nose...  and wrong. Grin


Which polling organisation would you trust?



Hammer gave up, and the Goose went silent.

Dear oh dear.

Better luck next time, guys   Wink
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Reply #225 - Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:57pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:41pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:37pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:35pm:
We asked approximately 4,000 Australians

Then in May 2018 we conducted an additional survey of 1,111 Australians


Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


What's so funny?

Didn't you study statistics in Uni?


Yep. 5,000 people out of 24 million won't give you an accurate picture Pecca. It's a numbers thing. This snapshot is way too low.



I seem to recall having this exact same discussion of statistics  and sample size with you before, seems like nothing changed.
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Reply #226 - Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:59pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:57pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:38pm:
Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:35pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:09pm:
Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 3:07pm:
Roy Morgan Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
Most inaccurate polster ever.


Rigged poll?

Is that what you're saying now?

Really   Roll Eyes

Tell us, Goose Boy, what pollster would you trust?

No abuse, no side-tracking, no changing the subject.

Which polling organisation would you trust?



No didn't say that...  but nice attempt to lie about me...  failed though...  completely. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

For years RM have been on the nose...  and wrong. Grin


Which polling organisation would you trust?



Hammer gave up, and the Goose went silent.

Dear oh dear.

Better luck next time, guys   Wink

Maybe if you didn't listen to silly small polls you would have picked Trump pecca?
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Reply #227 - Jun 28th, 2018 at 5:01pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:57pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:41pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:37pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:35pm:
We asked approximately 4,000 Australians

Then in May 2018 we conducted an additional survey of 1,111 Australians


Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


What's so funny?

Didn't you study statistics in Uni?


Yep. 5,000 people out of 24 million won't give you an accurate picture Pecca. It's a numbers thing. This snapshot is way too low.



I seem to recall having this exact same discussion of statistics  and sample size with you before, seems like nothing changed.

I'll let you in a little secret. They only accurate poll you can get is to ask all Australians. It's just a fact.
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Reply #228 - Jun 28th, 2018 at 5:03pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 5:01pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:57pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:41pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:37pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:35pm:
We asked approximately 4,000 Australians

Then in May 2018 we conducted an additional survey of 1,111 Australians


Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


What's so funny?

Didn't you study statistics in Uni?


Yep. 5,000 people out of 24 million won't give you an accurate picture Pecca. It's a numbers thing. This snapshot is way too low.



I seem to recall having this exact same discussion of statistics  and sample size with you before, seems like nothing changed.

I'll let you in a little secret. They only accurate poll you can get is to ask all Australians. It's just a fact.


The most accurate poll you can get is to ask everyone. Every poll you conduct other than that has amounts of confidence and statistical significance attached to it.



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Reply #229 - Jun 28th, 2018 at 5:05pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 5:03pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 5:01pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:57pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:41pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:37pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:35pm:
We asked approximately 4,000 Australians

Then in May 2018 we conducted an additional survey of 1,111 Australians


Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


What's so funny?

Didn't you study statistics in Uni?


Yep. 5,000 people out of 24 million won't give you an accurate picture Pecca. It's a numbers thing. This snapshot is way too low.



I seem to recall having this exact same discussion of statistics  and sample size with you before, seems like nothing changed.

I'll let you in a little secret. They only accurate poll you can get is to ask all Australians. It's just a fact.


The most accurate poll you can get is to ask everyone. Every poll you conduct other than that has amounts of confidence and statistical significance attached to it.




sure it does. trump didn't win one.
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Reply #230 - Jun 28th, 2018 at 5:06pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 5:05pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 5:03pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 5:01pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:57pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:41pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:37pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:35pm:
We asked approximately 4,000 Australians

Then in May 2018 we conducted an additional survey of 1,111 Australians


Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


What's so funny?

Didn't you study statistics in Uni?


Yep. 5,000 people out of 24 million won't give you an accurate picture Pecca. It's a numbers thing. This snapshot is way too low.



I seem to recall having this exact same discussion of statistics  and sample size with you before, seems like nothing changed.

I'll let you in a little secret. They only accurate poll you can get is to ask all Australians. It's just a fact.


The most accurate poll you can get is to ask everyone. Every poll you conduct other than that has amounts of confidence and statistical significance attached to it.




sure it does. trump didn't win one.



What part of statistics don't you understand?
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What I mean, is that there was clearly a sample issue in that it wasn't random enough for the Trump Clinton polls.




Plus the issue of those polls has nothing to do with sample size.
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:57pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:41pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:37pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:35pm:
We asked approximately 4,000 Australians

Then in May 2018 we conducted an additional survey of 1,111 Australians


Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


What's so funny?

Didn't you study statistics in Uni?


Yep. 5,000 people out of 24 million won't give you an accurate picture Pecca. It's a numbers thing. This snapshot is way too low.



I seem to recall having this exact same discussion of statistics  and sample size with you before, seems like nothing changed.


And nothing learned.

Sad.

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greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:29pm:
Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:15pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 3:19pm:
Grendel wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 3:07pm:
Roy Morgan Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
Most inaccurate polster ever.


Link/evidence/reference?

common knowledge oh font of all political wisdom...  didn't you know?
Do your own research Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


They're one of the most respected polling organisations in the world.

However, let's forget that for the moment.

In your opinion, which polling organisation should we trust?

I'm curious.

then you've been asleep at the wheel peccerhead
they may have been once upon a time when competition was scarce, but not anymore.
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then you've been asleep at the wheel peccerhead
they may have been once upon a time when competition was scarce, but not anymore.


Post the proof, the evidence, a reference.

Your opinion is irrelevant.

"Wassup, Grendel, got nuthin' as usual?"
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But the Chaser’s Chas Licciardello [whose shows appear on the ABC] told Sky News last week he reckons the ABC does lean to the left:

CHAS LICCIARDELLO: I do think the ABC is a left-wing network. I do think that. Especially, a left-wing sort of upper-middle class kind of sensibility. I do think that’s the case …— Outsiders, Sky News, 18 June, 2018

And he went on to say:

CHAS LICCIARDELLO: I think you should have more conservative views on the ABC, personally, as a taxpayer’s network and I think there are ways to do that. I think selling it is not the way to do it.— Outsiders, Sky News, 18 June, 2018

And former CEO of the Committee for Sydney, Tim Williams, made a similar point on ABC Sydney last week:

TIM WILLIAMS: … sometimes the ABC does choose from too limited a gene pool, in cultural and political terms, to have the debate with the Australian people and it needs to own up to that …I think the ABC can do better, but to abolish it is ridiculous. — Drive, ABC Sydney, 18 June, 2018
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then you've been asleep at the wheel peccerhead
they may have been once upon a time when competition was scarce, but not anymore.


Post the proof, the evidence, a reference.

Your opinion is irrelevant.

"Wassup, Grendel, got nuthin' as usual?"


We should ignore respected pollsters like Roy Morgan and instead, believe that everybody is unhappy with the ABC because Grendel is unhappy with the ABC.

It makes perfect sense.
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then you've been asleep at the wheel peccerhead
they may have been once upon a time when competition was scarce, but not anymore.


Post the proof, the evidence, a reference.

Your opinion is irrelevant.

"Wassup, Grendel, got nuthin' as usual?"


We should ignore respected pollsters like Roy Morgan and instead, believe that everybody is unhappy with the ABC because Grendel is unhappy with the ABC.

It makes perfect sense.



i dont doubt that a lot of people are happy with the ABC.
a lot of people are happy with maccas and pizza
a lot of people are happy with porn.

the ABC presents a narrative that panders to victim groups and makes them feel like their mediocre lives are someone elses fault.

people (lazy people) like that , in the same way they like greasy food and porn and complaining.

but we need to give people WHATS GOOD FOR THEM.
thats a much better deal then giving them WHAT THEY WANT
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Reply #239 - Jun 29th, 2018 at 11:23am
 
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Aussie wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 6:50pm:
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then you've been asleep at the wheel peccerhead
they may have been once upon a time when competition was scarce, but not anymore.


Post the proof, the evidence, a reference.

Your opinion is irrelevant.

"Wassup, Grendel, got nuthin' as usual?"


We should ignore respected pollsters like Roy Morgan and instead, believe that everybody is unhappy with the ABC because Grendel is unhappy with the ABC.

It makes perfect sense.

You don't even read what I write you idiot....  I think the ABC is an ESSENTIAL SERVICE  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy fool.
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So Peccerhead shouldn't you and Aussie be posting proof of you claims re Roy Morgan, I mean you expect everyone else to...  yet it seems ok for you to just make baseless erroneous claims and ridicule others like the TROLLS you are.

...

Oh look who came last...  and they've been doing it for a long time the biggest error belongs to?  Roy Morgan. Cheesy
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So Peccerhead shouldn't you and Aussie be posting proof of you claims re Roy Morgan, I mean you expect everyone else to...  yet it seems ok for you to just make baseless erroneous claims and ridicule others like the TROLLS you are.

...

Oh look who came last...  and they've been doing it for a long time the biggest error belongs to?  Roy Morgan. Cheesy
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That's ace Grendel.  Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Comments from a study on Australian pollsters...

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Essential does not seem to have been so accurate through the campaign, and also seems to have leant to one side (Labor) over consecutive polls more than the other pollsters bar Morgan


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Galaxy also running the Newspoll brand, which was the second-best performer on tracking and ran through the campaign.  As both are run by the same company I declare Galaxy/Newspoll joint winners of the best tracking category. It's not clearcut though: under some possible assumptions (such as late swing), ReachTEL could beat one or both.


As for me Peccerhead I have always told you I don't believe in polls...  there is only 1 poll that counts.  The election...  just how many times have I posted that eh...  but you wouldn't know you either lie, forget or never read stuff... Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Morgan's seat polls were very messy: they consisted of compiled electorate sampling over a long period, and lacked any 2PP figures.  A high proportion of them focused on non-classic seats (or seats that looked like they might be non-classic seats), which made assessing their accuracy even harder.


Sloppy, messy, unreliable just as they have been in NZ.

As for more on their individual seat polling...

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Overall, Morgan seems to have surprisingly published the least skewed seat polls, but their polls were also the most erratic.  Indeed when I converted their polls to 2PP I found that nine of them were correct within a point, but there were also massive howlers like an 18 point error in Wentworth.  Morgan had the highest proportion of correct seat polls, but this is meaningless because the seats they tackled were, on average, much easier than those tackled by the other pollsters.  They're also not allowed to crow about it, because they didn't publish seat 2PPs.


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Galaxy is best on error, second-best on skew and second-best on relative correctness, but the average age of its included data was 10 days compared to 17 for Newspoll, 20 for ReachTEL and goodness knows what for Morgan.


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Reply #245 - Jun 29th, 2018 at 11:45am
 
I remember years ago Morgan getting it incredibly wrong and people parties and the media panning them... 

Unfotunately I don't have all day to go looking for the articles, or even know if they still exist or are archived and accessible.

However this comment from a study on Pollsters exists...

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The Galaxy/Newspoll stable has come out on top of all three categories here in some form or other.  The final Newspoll was incredibly good and the differences between the leading pollsters on everything else were not so great.  Seat polling has still not redeemed itself after the 2013 disaster, but national polling is in excellent shape.  As Galaxy and Newspoll are both administered by Galaxy, these brands are the joint winners for this year.

Of the remainder ReachTEL has performed rather well and is clearly in the top three with the Galaxy and Newspoll brands.  Essential produced a good final poll but strong reservations remain about its tracking behaviour.  Ipsos' debut was not bad, but it has work to do on its persistently inflated Greens vote.  The minor pollsters didn't greatly embarrass themselves,
while Morgan was a hot mess with the odd redeeming feature.  I have to give Morgan the wooden spoon just for pulling out of national polling with a month to go, leaving me with no yardstick to measure its performance for its future (if there is one.)
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Reply #246 - Jun 29th, 2018 at 11:53am
 
aquascoot wrote on Jun 29th, 2018 at 9:03am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 29th, 2018 at 8:42am:
Aussie wrote on Jun 28th, 2018 at 6:50pm:
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then you've been asleep at the wheel peccerhead
they may have been once upon a time when competition was scarce, but not anymore.


Post the proof, the evidence, a reference.

Your opinion is irrelevant.

"Wassup, Grendel, got nuthin' as usual?"


We should ignore respected pollsters like Roy Morgan and instead, believe that everybody is unhappy with the ABC because Grendel is unhappy with the ABC.

It makes perfect sense.



i dont doubt that a lot of people are happy with the ABC.
a lot of people are happy with maccas and pizza
a lot of people are happy with porn.

the ABC presents a narrative that panders to victim groups and makes them feel like their mediocre lives are someone elses fault.

people (lazy people) like that , in the same way they like greasy food and porn and complaining.

but we need to give people WHATS GOOD FOR THEM.
thats a much better deal then giving them WHAT THEY WANT


Indeed.


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Reply #247 - Jun 29th, 2018 at 1:18pm
 
What is the source for that Grendel?  Afraid to tell us?
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Reply #248 - Jun 29th, 2018 at 1:45pm
 
Nope....  you never believe anything I say or admit when you are wrong, so I don't care what you think or don't know.

TROLL someone who cares...

You never accept the truth anyway.

Do you remember when RM got panned?  No?  That explains why you are ignorant of the facts. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #249 - Jun 29th, 2018 at 2:13pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jun 29th, 2018 at 1:45pm:
Nope....  you never believe anything I say or admit when you are wrong, so I don't care what you think or don't know.

TROLL someone who cares...

You never accept the truth anyway.

Do you remember when RM got panned?  No?  That explains why you are ignorant of the facts. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


What is the source for that Grendel?  Afraid to tell us?
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Reply #250 - Jun 29th, 2018 at 2:16pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jun 29th, 2018 at 1:45pm:
Nope....  you never believe anything I say or admit when you are wrong, so I don't care what you think or don't know.

TROLL someone who cares...


You never accept the truth anyway.

Do you remember when RM got panned?  No?  That explains why you are ignorant of the facts. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

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Reply #251 - Jun 29th, 2018 at 2:57pm
 
I shall take the obvious conclusion which is you are too embarrassed/ashamed to name it.
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Reply #252 - Jun 29th, 2018 at 3:18pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jun 29th, 2018 at 2:16pm:
Grendel wrote on Jun 29th, 2018 at 1:45pm:
Nope....  you never believe anything I say or admit when you are wrong, so I don't care what you think or don't know.

TROLL someone who cares...


You never accept the truth anyway.

Do you remember when RM got panned?  No?  That explains why you are ignorant of the facts. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


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Reply #253 - Jun 29th, 2018 at 6:24pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jun 29th, 2018 at 2:57pm:
I shall take the obvious conclusion which is you are too embarrassed/ashamed to name it.


Either that, or he made it up himself.

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Reply #254 - Jun 29th, 2018 at 6:35pm
 
Not my fault you 2 TROLLS are wrong...

Grendel wrote on Jun 29th, 2018 at 11:45am:
I remember years ago Morgan getting it incredibly wrong and people parties and the media panning them... 

Unfotunately I don't have all day to go looking for the articles, or even know if they still exist or are archived and accessible.

However this comment from a study on Pollsters exists...

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The Galaxy/Newspoll stable has come out on top of all three categories here in some form or other.  The final Newspoll was incredibly good and the differences between the leading pollsters on everything else were not so great.  Seat polling has still not redeemed itself after the 2013 disaster, but national polling is in excellent shape.  As Galaxy and Newspoll are both administered by Galaxy, these brands are the joint winners for this year.

Of the remainder ReachTEL has performed rather well and is clearly in the top three with the Galaxy and Newspoll brands.  Essential produced a good final poll but strong reservations remain about its tracking behaviour.  Ipsos' debut was not bad, but it has work to do on its persistently inflated Greens vote.  The minor pollsters didn't greatly embarrass themselves,
while Morgan was a hot mess with the odd redeeming feature.  I have to give Morgan the wooden spoon just for pulling out of national polling with a month to go, leaving me with no yardstick to measure its performance for its future (if there is one.)

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Reply #255 - Jun 29th, 2018 at 6:36pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jun 29th, 2018 at 11:31am:
So Peccerhead shouldn't you and Aussie be posting proof of you claims re Roy Morgan, I mean you expect everyone else to...  yet it seems ok for you to just make baseless erroneous claims and ridicule others like the TROLLS you are.

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-3XYMtSaKyqI/V-FnOXrDJQI/AAAAAAAAC9A/HoFLoEL2Vu0nBculx...

Oh look who came last...  and they've been doing it for a long time the biggest error belongs to?  Roy Morgan. Cheesy

I note you 2 do nothing but post your unsubstantiated opinion.
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Reply #256 - Jun 29th, 2018 at 6:44pm
 
What is the source Grendel?
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Reply #257 - Jun 29th, 2018 at 6:47pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jun 29th, 2018 at 6:44pm:
What is the source Grendel?

The Internet Aussie....  ask someone how to use google... Cheesy
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Reply #258 - Jun 29th, 2018 at 7:02pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jun 29th, 2018 at 6:47pm:
Aussie wrote on Jun 29th, 2018 at 6:44pm:
What is the source Grendel?

The Internet Aussie....  ask someone how to use google... Cheesy


Cute, and pointless.
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Reply #259 - Jun 29th, 2018 at 7:09pm
 
Well then that's one up on you....  you are simply pointless...
not forgetting you cant see for looking.
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