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Jun 25th, 2018 at 12:42pm
 
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Happy Birthday, Global Warming! 30 Years of Failed Predictions...


It was 30 years ago today that NASA head Dr. James E Hansen testified to the US Senate that “global warming has begun”.

On June 24, 1988, Dr. Hansen told a panel of Senators that the world is plunging into an era of destruction, and told of hysterical doomsday predictions.

From the New York Times archive, dated June 24th, 1988:

Until now, scientists have been cautious about attributing rising global temperatures of recent years to the predicted global warming caused by pollutants in the atmosphere, known as the ”greenhouse effect.” But today Dr. James E. Hansen of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration told a Congressional committee that it was 99 percent certain that the warming trend was not a natural variation but was caused by a buildup of carbon dioxide and other artificial gases in the atmosphere.

Dr. Hansen, a leading expert on climate change, said in an interview that there was no ”magic number” that showed when the greenhouse effect was actually starting to cause changes in climate and weather. But he added, ”It is time to stop waffling so much and say that the evidence is pretty strong that the greenhouse effect is here.”

If Dr. Hansen and other scientists are correct, then humans, by burning of fossil fuels and other activities, have altered the global climate in a manner that will affect life on earth for centuries to come.

He and other scientists testifying before the Senate panel today said that projections of the climate change that is now apparently occurring mean that the Southeastern and Midwestern sections of the United States will be subject to frequent episodes of very high temperatures and drought in the next decade and beyond. But they cautioned that it was not possible to attribute a specific heat wave to the greenhouse effect, given the still limited state of knowledge on the subject.

Mathematical models have predicted for some years now that a buildup of carbon dioxide from the burning of fossil fuels such as coal and oil and other gases emitted by human activities into the atmosphere would cause the earth’s surface to warm by trapping infrared radiation from the sun, turning the entire earth into a kind of greenhouse.

If the current pace of the buildup of these gases continues, the effect is likely to be a warming of 3 to 9 degrees Fahrenheit from the year 2025 to 2050, according to these projections. This rise in temperature is not expected to be uniform around the globe but to be greater in the higher latitudes, reaching as much as 20 degreesCheesy and lower at the Equator.

”Global warming has reached a level such that we can ascribe with a high degree of confidence a cause and effect relationship between the greenhouse effect and observed warming,” Dr. Hansen said at the hearing today, adding, ”It is already happening now.”

Some experts also believe that concern over global warming caused by the burning of fossil fuels warrants a renewed effort to develop safe nuclear power. Others stress the need for more efficient use of energy through conservation and other measures to curb fuel-burning.

Dr. Michael Oppenheimer, an atmospheric physicist with the Environmental Defense Fund, a national environmental group, said a number of steps can be taken immediately around the world, including the ratification and then strengthening of the treaty to reduce use of chlorofluorocarbons, which are widely used industrial chemicals that are said to contribute to the greenhouse effect. These chemicals have also been found to destroy ozone in the upper atmosphere that protects the earth’s surface from harmful ultraviolet radiation from the sun.

So this was the beginning of all the doom and gloom. Since Hansen’s testimony, we’ve been treated a litany of crazed predictions that never came true.

In fact, Hansen’s own charts and computer models from 1988 have been debunked, where he predicted a massive rise in temperature that ended up being quite meager.

Leading climate alarmist Al Gore once said that we would reach a “point of no return” in 10 years. 12 years ago.  Cheesy

Remember when a writer for The Independent said “snowfalls are now just a thing of the past”? Charles Onians opined in that article that England would soon never experience any more snow. That article was from 2000.

As record blizzards hit England this past March, 2018, The Independent has since removed all traces all of the article, and even the Wayback Machine internet archive has removed the article.  Cheesy

Fortunately, the folks at Watts Up With That preserved the article in PDF form.
   Wink

This other article out of Australia’s The Age blames “growing global wealth” for the pending doom. From 2007. Miraculously, 11 years later, Australia still exists and isn’t under water.

Someone put together an entire website dedicated to climate hysteria predictions that never happened, called  ClimateChangePredictions.org

Tony Heller, of RealClimateScience.com , put together this video titled “Thirty Years Of Failed Climate Predictions”:

Dr. James Hansen has since turned into a wackjob activist, and has been arrested multiple times while protesting.


fair dinkum...

and they still try to push this garbage??

and whats worse... people still believing them.!!  Roll Eyes
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Reply #1 - Jun 25th, 2018 at 12:44pm
 
Whats worse is people not referencing.
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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Reply #2 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 6:41pm
 
Good post Mechanic ,
what's scary is that most of the media still follow the false predictions
& report them as true.
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Reply #3 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 8:26pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 6:41pm:
Good post Mechanic ,
what's scary is that most of the media still follow the false predictions
& report them as true.



Thats Right... its sickening...  Angry
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Reply #4 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 8:53pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 12:44pm:
Whats worse is people not referencing.


The Gateway Pundit.

"The website is known for publishing falsehoods and spreading hoaxes."
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Reply #6 - Jul 2nd, 2018 at 8:55am
 
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/06/06/climate-change-may-warmest...
May was warmest on record for USA, breaking mark set during Dust Bowl
May shattered heat records across the U.S. as sizzling warmth was reported nationwide, federal scientists announced Wednesday.
In addition, not only was it the warmest May on record across the country, but almost 8,600 local heat records were also broken or tied during the month....

Yup nothing to see here....... Wink Wink

Wasn't 6 years out of the last 10 years in USA the hottest ever ?
Just wondering. Wink Wink
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Reply #7 - Jul 2nd, 2018 at 11:35am
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 8:55am:
Wasn't 6 years out of the last 10 years in USA the hottest ever ?



According to NOAA wasn't the global temperature in 1997 62.45ºF?

According to NOAA wasn't 2016, the hottest year "evah", 58.69ºF?

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Then of course you would have to prove it is AGW and not natural warming.
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Reply #8 - Jul 2nd, 2018 at 12:15pm
 
A science needs a few hundred years of sensible logic before it can be trusted.  When they're young, their like rampant delinquent teenagers.  Do more harm than good overall.
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Reply #9 - Jul 2nd, 2018 at 2:29pm
 
lee wrote on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 11:35am:
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 8:55am:
Wasn't 6 years out of the last 10 years in USA the hottest ever ?



According to NOAA wasn't the global temperature in 1997 62.45ºF?

According to NOAA wasn't 2016, the hottest year "evah", 58.69ºF?

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Then of course you would have to prove it is AGW and not natural warming.

Well 30  years ago they said the earth was going to heat up and in the last 10 years tempetures have been the highests since they have been monitoring, sounds like a pretty sound prediction to me.
you keep supporting bobby on the new ice age and its not getting colder,,,, so u don't believe the ice age is happening ?
SO your saying that 97 was the hottest year Lee ?
or just throwing around stuff to muddle the waters.
What do U say about the last 10 years and how hot they have been ? Wink Wink Wink
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Reply #10 - Jul 2nd, 2018 at 2:33pm
 
Imrah wrote on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 12:15pm:
A science needs a few hundred years of sensible logic before it can be trusted.  When they're young, their like rampant delinquent teenagers.  Do more harm than good overall.

Just look at all the poisons we r putting in the air and our oceans and land, do u really think we should keep doing this ? Wink Wink
if they r right though and we don't change how we live, in 200 years no one might be living... do u want to take that chance for the science to mature ? Wink Wink
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Reply #11 - Jul 2nd, 2018 at 2:48pm
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 2:29pm:
Well 30  years ago they said the earth was going to heat up and in the last 10 years tempetures have been the highests since they have been monitoring, sounds like a pretty sound prediction to me.


You have heard that correlation is not causation? BDonDeeHippy wrote on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 2:29pm:
SO your saying that 97 was the hottest year Lee ?
or just throwing around stuff to muddle the waters.



Hey that's what NOAA says. I just repeat it. If you don't like the way they do science complain to them.

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 2:29pm:
What do U say about the last 10 years and how hot they have been ?



They haven't been hot here.

"The global annual temperature for combined land and ocean surfaces in 2007 was +0.55°C (+0.99°F) above the 20th century average"
https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/200713

So similar to below 0.99°F+57.0°F = 57.99°F. So the difference between 2007 and the hottest "evah" is 0.8°F or 0.45°C. Did you notice the difference where you live?

"The global average temperature of 62.45 degrees Fahrenheit for 1997 was the warmest year on record"

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/199713

" The average global temperature across land and ocean surface areas for 2016 was 0.94°C (1.69°F) above the 20th century average of 13.9°C (57.0°F)"

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/201613
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Reply #12 - Jul 2nd, 2018 at 3:13pm
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 2:29pm:
lee wrote on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 11:35am:
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 8:55am:
Wasn't 6 years out of the last 10 years in USA the hottest ever ?



According to NOAA wasn't the global temperature in 1997 62.45ºF?

According to NOAA wasn't 2016, the hottest year "evah", 58.69ºF?

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Then of course you would have to prove it is AGW and not natural warming.

Well 30  years ago they said the earth was going to heat up and in the last 10 years tempetures have been the highests since they have been monitoring, sounds like a pretty sound prediction to me.
you keep supporting bobby on the new ice age and its not getting colder,,,, so u don't believe the ice age is happening ?
SO your saying that 97 was the hottest year Lee ?
or just throwing around stuff to muddle the waters.
What do U say about the last 10 years and how hot they have been ? Wink Wink Wink

Yes Lee lots more quotes and such but what do u think ?
was 97 the hottest year and have the last 10 years been hot or not ? Wink Wink
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Reply #13 - Jul 2nd, 2018 at 3:17pm
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 3:13pm:
Yes Lee lots more quotes and such but what do u think ?



I think if NOAA is correct it has not warmed. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 3:13pm:
was 97 the hottest year and have the last 10 years been hot or not ?



I never noticed it being hot in 1997, that I recall. Maybe you have a different memory.

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Reply #14 - Sep 17th, 2018 at 2:33pm
 
lee wrote on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 2:48pm:
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 2:29pm:
Well 30  years ago they said the earth was going to heat up and in the last 10 years tempetures have been the highests since they have been monitoring, sounds like a pretty sound prediction to me.


You have heard that correlation is not causation? BDonDeeHippy wrote on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 2:29pm:
SO your saying that 97 was the hottest year Lee ?
or just throwing around stuff to muddle the waters.



Hey that's what NOAA says. I just repeat it. If you don't like the way they do science complain to them.

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jul 2nd, 2018 at 2:29pm:
What do U say about the last 10 years and how hot they have been ?



They haven't been hot here.

"The global annual temperature for combined land and ocean surfaces in 2007 was +0.55°C (+0.99°F) above the 20th century average"
https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/200713

So similar to below 0.99°F+57.0°F = 57.99°F. So the difference between 2007 and the hottest "evah" is 0.8°F or 0.45°C. Did you notice the difference where you live?

"The global average temperature of 62.45 degrees Fahrenheit for 1997 was the warmest year on record"

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/199713

" The average global temperature across land and ocean surface areas for 2016 was 0.94°C (1.69°F) above the 20th century average of 13.9°C (57.0°F)"

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/201613


The adjustments were made to account for changes in weather station locations, improvements in technology and distortions due to urban growth near the weather stations. The long term trends still point to an increase in average global temperatures:

No climate conspiracy: NOAA temperature adjustments bring data closer to pristine
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