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Why are so many Britons leaving Australia?
Jun 17th, 2018 at 3:34pm
 
Are closet poms really displaced persons that deserve our pity?

You can take a pom out of the UK, but you can't take the UK out of a pom.

Ten pounds for your thoughts.

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-15799571

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Why are so many Britons leaving Australia?
By Mark Bosworth
BBC News
23 November 2011

Thousands of Britons emigrate to Australia every year in search of a better life, but now more and more are deciding down under is not for them and returning home. The same trend seems to be happening to Australians deserting the UK. Why?

Despite a fierce sporting rivalry between the British nations - especially England - and Australia, the countries enjoy very close ties. It's a bond cemented by the thousands of Britons and Australians who travel to the other side of the world in search of a new life.

For many, it's a dream come true to visit and eventually settle in a country that's far away but also very familiar. Britons are attracted by the outdoor lifestyle, sunshine and sense of space, while Australians are drawn to the history, the adventure and the UK's proximity to the European mainland.

Many end up settling down in their new country but in recent years, for an increasing number, it's not the one-way trip they had intended.

Despite Australia's booming economy, more than 7,000 British people left the country for good in 2009-10 - the largest emigration recorded in recent memory - according to figures from Australia's immigration department.

Between 2005 and 2010, nearly 107,000 Britons settled in Australia but during the same period more than 30,000 decided to permanently leave. And the feeling appears to be mutual, with fewer Australians arriving in the UK.

The difficult economic situation in the UK goes some way to explain why fewer Australians should be heading there, but it's more surprising that the expat British should be leaving a booming country in exchange for one still struggling to recover from a recession.

Chief among the reasons why the British are leaving include missing friends and family, and lacking a real sense of belonging, says Prof Roger Burrows, a sociologist from the University of York who has studied the phenomenon.

"The people who don't settle have always lived close to their friends and family [in the UK] so any move comes as a shock.

"If they live in a bungalow in the suburbs of Adelaide, it gets lonely. There isn't a culture of going for a drink after work and the TV is terrible."

When I was in London in July this year it was much cheaper to eat out than in Sydney and Melbourne
Jono Coleman, Radio DJ
Some people went to Australia for the heat but ended up hating the warmth, the flies, and having to cover the kids in sun cream all the time, he says.

"It's not about living by the coast in the sun - it's about living in a dull flat in suburbs that don't have any real infrastructure."

For some migrants, moving to Australia can be a source of sorrow and regret for people for the rest of their lives, he says.

Not everyone leaves with bad memories though. Tom Armstrong, a 41-year-old father, moved back to London this year after four happy years in Sydney, because of a new job opportunity at his media company. But a big bonus was being reunited with friends and family in the UK.

"We moved out to Australia because my wife wanted to be closer to her family, and we had four fantastic years there. It was a wonderful lifestyle with friendly people and a very high quality of life.

"If I could get all of my friends and family out there to live, and I had the right job, then living in Australia would be a no-brainer."

Some British people complain about a lack of culture and history, he says, but that depends where you live.

"Sydney and Melbourne are world-class cities with plenty of great things to see and do, but outside the big urban areas life is definitely less colourful and probably more of an acquired taste. The biggest drawbacks for Brits in my opinion is the long distance from friends and family."

Martin Gilbert, 47, will move back to the UK with his English partner next year after 24 years in Australia.

Why one Briton is leaving...
By Martin GilbertAfter 24 years down under

Australia has been good to me. Certainly I've had some good times here but there is something fundamental and soulful missing here for me.

My parents are getting older. I miss seeing my friends' kids growing up but I think it is the small day-to-day things you miss rather than major events.

Australia has become more and more expensive. In fact I think it is more expensive than parts of the UK.

I think life in England is tougher and more competitive but that is a good thing sometimes.

Here I feel like I'm on the outside looking in and don't really understand why.

I think people come to Australia expecting it to be England with sunshine. But nobody is lounging in the sun, day in day out.

"Australia has been good to me. Certainly I've had some good times here but there is something fundamental and soulful missing here for me."

Life in England is tougher and more competitive, he believes, and that's something he has missed. Plus he hasn't been able to shake feeling like an outsider, even after all this time, and Australia has become more expensive in recent years.

It used to be that you could come to Australia from the UK for a cheaper lifestyle...
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Reply #1 - Jun 17th, 2018 at 11:48pm
 
Many more are leaving Britainistan ... can't figure out exactly why.....
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Reply #2 - Jun 18th, 2018 at 12:09am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 17th, 2018 at 11:48pm:
Many more are leaving Britainistan ... can't figure out exactly why.....


That's because they realise that Australia (Sahul) is for Eastern Europeans and that North America is for Western Europeans.
Just like Oceania is for Southern Europeans and Northern Europeans get to go slops on Europe itself.

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Reply #3 - Jun 18th, 2018 at 10:45am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 17th, 2018 at 11:48pm:
Many more are leaving Britainistan ... can't figure out exactly why.....


Poms are revolting?
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Reply #4 - Jun 18th, 2018 at 11:19am
 
Unforgiven wrote on Jun 18th, 2018 at 10:45am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 17th, 2018 at 11:48pm:
Many more are leaving Britainistan ... can't figure out exactly why.....


Poms are revolting?


Not yet, but one day soon there will be a popular uprising against political correctness.....
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Reply #5 - Jun 18th, 2018 at 12:05pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 18th, 2018 at 11:19am:
Unforgiven wrote on Jun 18th, 2018 at 10:45am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 17th, 2018 at 11:48pm:
Many more are leaving Britainistan ... can't figure out exactly why.....


Poms are revolting?


Not yet, but one day soon there will be a popular uprising against political correctness.....


Et tu, Brute?

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You can take a pom out of the UK, but you can't take the UK out of a pom.

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Re: Why are so many Britons leaving Australia?
Reply #6 - Jun 18th, 2018 at 3:18pm
 
Who cares if poms go home. Most like it here and stay and some don't. What's your point?
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Reply #7 - Jun 18th, 2018 at 3:25pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 18th, 2018 at 3:18pm:
Who cares if poms go home. Most like it here and stay and some don't. What's your point?


If they like it here why do they whinge about it?

We need to find out what encourages their return to reduce population pressure on Australian infrastructure.

What would encourage Mr. Hammer to emigrate to the UK? Would ten pounds do the job?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/8863...

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Record number of Britons leaving Australia and heading home

They have been dubbed "ping pong poms", the British immigrants who tire of their new life in Australia and head back to the UK, and their numbers are growing.
Newcastel, Australia

The Australian lifestyle is not all it's cracked up to be
7:00AM GMT 02 Nov 2011
A new study has revealed that of the 107,000 Britons to arrive in Australia between 2005 and 2010, 60 per cent decided to return home.

Last year, a record 7,000 left Australia for the comforts of life back in Britain.
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Re: Why are so many Britons leaving Australia?
Reply #8 - Jun 18th, 2018 at 3:27pm
 
Unforgiven wrote on Jun 18th, 2018 at 3:25pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 18th, 2018 at 3:18pm:
Who cares if poms go home. Most like it here and stay and some don't. What's your point?


If they like it here why do they whinge about it?

We need to find out what encourages their return to reduce population pressure on Australian infrastructure.

What would encourage Mr. Hammer to emigrate to the UK?
Plenty of you third worlders whinge about Australia. It's not for everybody.
When you go back to the third world I'll think about immigrating to the UK.
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Re: Why are so many Britons leaving Australia?
Reply #9 - Jun 18th, 2018 at 3:30pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 18th, 2018 at 3:27pm:
Unforgiven wrote on Jun 18th, 2018 at 3:25pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 18th, 2018 at 3:18pm:
Who cares if poms go home. Most like it here and stay and some don't. What's your point?


If they like it here why do they whinge about it?

We need to find out what encourages their return to reduce population pressure on Australian infrastructure.

What would encourage Mr. Hammer to emigrate to the UK?

When you go back to the third world I'll think about immigrating to the UK.


I am not planning to emigrate to the UK. My poms would turn feral without my control.
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Reply #10 - Jun 18th, 2018 at 3:34pm
 
Unforgiven wrote on Jun 18th, 2018 at 3:30pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 18th, 2018 at 3:27pm:
Unforgiven wrote on Jun 18th, 2018 at 3:25pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 18th, 2018 at 3:18pm:
Who cares if poms go home. Most like it here and stay and some don't. What's your point?


If they like it here why do they whinge about it?

We need to find out what encourages their return to reduce population pressure on Australian infrastructure.

What would encourage Mr. Hammer to emigrate to the UK?

When you go back to the third world I'll think about immigrating to the UK.


I am not planning to emigrate to the UK. My poms would turn feral without my control.

Go back to India and stop following the whiteman around.
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Reply #11 - Jun 18th, 2018 at 4:02pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 18th, 2018 at 3:34pm:
Go back to India and stop following the whiteman around.


Neither I no any of my ancestors have ever been to India.

Have you confused me with Denizen Gordon?
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Reply #12 - Jun 18th, 2018 at 4:08pm
 
Unforgiven wrote on Jun 18th, 2018 at 4:02pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 18th, 2018 at 3:34pm:
Go back to India and stop following the whiteman around.


Neither I no any of my ancestors have ever been to India.

Have you confused me with Denizen Gordon?

Why don't you have anything nice to say about white males then?
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Reply #13 - Jun 18th, 2018 at 4:12pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 18th, 2018 at 4:08pm:
Unforgiven wrote on Jun 18th, 2018 at 4:02pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 18th, 2018 at 3:34pm:
Go back to India and stop following the whiteman around.


Neither I no any of my ancestors have ever been to India.

Have you confused me with Denizen Gordon?

Why don't you have anything nice to say about white males then?


I am not seeking dalliance with them.
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Reply #14 - Jun 18th, 2018 at 4:15pm
 
Unforgiven wrote on Jun 18th, 2018 at 4:12pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 18th, 2018 at 4:08pm:
Unforgiven wrote on Jun 18th, 2018 at 4:02pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 18th, 2018 at 3:34pm:
Go back to India and stop following the whiteman around.


Neither I no any of my ancestors have ever been to India.

Have you confused me with Denizen Gordon?

Why don't you have anything nice to say about white males then?


I am not seeking dalliance with them.

Go to a gay bar.
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