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Reply #75 - Jun 18th, 2018 at 11:14am
 
oh dear wrote on Jun 17th, 2018 at 10:52pm:
Bam wrote on Jun 17th, 2018 at 8:50pm:
Setanta wrote on Jun 17th, 2018 at 8:38pm:
Bam wrote on Jun 17th, 2018 at 8:34pm:
Maybe the Liberals should look at privatising drought assistance.

If they did that we'd have no farming left.

I doubt that. What it will do is weed out the inept farmers who overstock their land in good times then hold out their big hats for taxpayer-funded assistance in drought years. Farms are like any other business: some are run by people who don't really know what they are doing.

We need a radical overhaul of farming practices in Australia. For example, should farms in different districts join forces so some farmers can earn a living by agisting the breeding stock of farmers in drought thousands of kilometres away? Should the Federal government tax cattle and sheep farmers in kind by taking hay as tax, to be stored safely and released as needed?


You are a smart poster Bam but at times your ignorance is astounding.

You will never find a better farmer than someone who lives from the land.

Most farmers do the right thing. The number of farms that have remained in the same family for decades is proof of this.

A few though are being propped up because they made bad decisions. Someone mentioned "Macquarie St" farmers in particular. Some of these people run the property at a loss for the tax deductions. Why should these people be allowed to rort the system at everyone else's expense?

Of course, nobody has actually addressed the core issue directly: why not privatise drought assistance? I think the implied answer is: privatisation doesn't work. Am I right?
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Re: What the Liberal party scum want to do to our ABC
Reply #76 - Jun 18th, 2018 at 11:18am
 
This idiotic non-idea did come, after all, from the Young Liberals - not a group noted for their intellect and knowledge of the real world, but more noted as a nodding clown for their Party's chosen line and just as intelligent and just as relevant to real Australia.

God spare us from the twerps.
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Re: What the Liberal party scum want to do to our ABC
Reply #77 - Jun 18th, 2018 at 11:18am
 
aquascoot wrote on Jun 18th, 2018 at 6:52am:
it must be a fredian slip that lefties always refer to it as "our " abc.

if you want your own propaganda channel , pay for it yourselves

This is where English could do with pronouns that include clusivity. You are misinterpreting an inclusive "we" as an exclusive "we".

Inclusive "we" = I, you, possibly they;
Exclusive "we" = I, they, but not you.
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Reply #78 - Jun 18th, 2018 at 12:10pm
 
Bam wrote on Jun 18th, 2018 at 11:03am:
Grendel wrote on Jun 17th, 2018 at 9:27pm:
Regardless of the denial of the LW progs here and the ABc it is a politically biased left leaning prog organisation.

Link please. And not from your right-wing Quantum-type websites either. Reliable sources only.

historical fact learned through living in Australia and being a student of Australian politics current affairs and an avid abc watcher/listener.

Link yourself fool....
I am a reliable source unlike some of you...
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Reply #79 - Jun 18th, 2018 at 12:13pm
 
Grap....  anyone calling any branch of the ABC RW is fallacious and stupid... 

Clearly it and its staff are not....  especially those programs like Q&A, The Drum and any of the lets poke fun at the Conservatives shows...  not to mention main presenters and those in charge of programming decisions.

But like I said we need a National Broadcaster...  preferably an unbiased one.
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Reply #80 - Jun 18th, 2018 at 12:26pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jun 18th, 2018 at 12:13pm:
Grap....  anyone calling any branch of the ABC RW is fallacious and stupid... 

Clearly it and its staff are not....  especially those programs like Q&A, The Drum and any of the lets poke fun at the Conservatives shows...  not to mention main presenters and those in charge of programming decisions.

But like I said we need a National Broadcaster...  preferably an unbiased one.

What is 'unbiased'?
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Re: What the Liberal party scum want to do to our ABC
Reply #81 - Jun 18th, 2018 at 12:27pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jun 18th, 2018 at 12:10pm:
Bam wrote on Jun 18th, 2018 at 11:03am:
Grendel wrote on Jun 17th, 2018 at 9:27pm:
Regardless of the denial of the LW progs here and the ABc it is a politically biased left leaning prog organisation.

Link please. And not from your right-wing Quantum-type websites either. Reliable sources only.

historical fact learned through living in Australia and being a student of Australian politics current affairs and an avid abc watcher/listener.

Link yourself fool....
I am a reliable source unlike some of you...

If you're such a reliable source then why don't you know what 'unbiased' means?
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Reply #82 - Jun 18th, 2018 at 12:28pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 18th, 2018 at 11:18am:
This idiotic non-idea did come, after all, from the Young Liberals - not a group noted for their intellect and knowledge of the real world, but more noted as a nodding clown for their Party's chosen line and just as intelligent and just as relevant to real Australia.

God spare us from the twerps.

Not even the Liberal Party listens to the young liberals!

(Go on son, go back and smoke your stupid drugs with your stupid friends...)
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Re: What the Liberal party scum want to do to our ABC
Reply #83 - Jun 18th, 2018 at 12:30pm
 
Bam wrote on Jun 18th, 2018 at 11:14am:
oh dear wrote on Jun 17th, 2018 at 10:52pm:
Bam wrote on Jun 17th, 2018 at 8:50pm:
Setanta wrote on Jun 17th, 2018 at 8:38pm:
Bam wrote on Jun 17th, 2018 at 8:34pm:
Maybe the Liberals should look at privatising drought assistance.

If they did that we'd have no farming left.

I doubt that. What it will do is weed out the inept farmers who overstock their land in good times then hold out their big hats for taxpayer-funded assistance in drought years. Farms are like any other business: some are run by people who don't really know what they are doing.

We need a radical overhaul of farming practices in Australia. For example, should farms in different districts join forces so some farmers can earn a living by agisting the breeding stock of farmers in drought thousands of kilometres away? Should the Federal government tax cattle and sheep farmers in kind by taking hay as tax, to be stored safely and released as needed?


You are a smart poster Bam but at times your ignorance is astounding.

You will never find a better farmer than someone who lives from the land.

Most farmers do the right thing. The number of farms that have remained in the same family for decades is proof of this.

A few though are being propped up because they made bad decisions. Someone mentioned "Macquarie St" farmers in particular. Some of these people run the property at a loss for the tax deductions. Why should these people be allowed to rort the system at everyone else's expense?

Of course, nobody has actually addressed the core issue directly: why not privatise drought assistance? I think the implied answer is: privatisation doesn't work. Am I right?

Business tactics are business tactics: that's the rich pastiche that is the mediocrity!
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Re: What the Liberal party scum want to do to our ABC
Reply #84 - Jun 18th, 2018 at 12:34pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jun 18th, 2018 at 12:13pm:
Grap....  anyone calling any branch of the ABC RW is fallacious and stupid... 

Clearly it and its staff are not....  especially those programs like Q&A, The Drum and any of the lets poke fun at the Conservatives shows...  not to mention main presenters and those in charge of programming decisions.

But like I said we need a National Broadcaster...  preferably an unbiased one.



As the man said - if you are leaning one way or the other, any comment or approach you don't agree with appears to be leaning the opposite way.... as for the fun poking - wait until Labrador is in the Hot Seat (Millionaires all), and see what they cop.

I clearly recall Leigh Sales ripping Gillard and Rudd to tiny bits ...
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Re: What the Liberal party scum want to do to our ABC
Reply #85 - Jun 18th, 2018 at 12:57pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jun 18th, 2018 at 12:10pm:
Bam wrote on Jun 18th, 2018 at 11:03am:
Grendel wrote on Jun 17th, 2018 at 9:27pm:
Regardless of the denial of the LW progs here and the ABc it is a politically biased left leaning prog organisation.

Link please. And not from your right-wing Quantum-type websites either. Reliable sources only.

historical fact learned through living in Australia and being a student of Australian politics current affairs and an avid abc watcher/listener.

So no link then. I knew you couldn't back it up.

Grendel wrote on Jun 18th, 2018 at 12:10pm:
Link yourself fool....
I am a reliable source unlike some of you...

You? Reliable?

Grin Grin

That has to be the worst appeal to authority fallacy I have ever seen.
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Re: What the Liberal party scum want to do to our ABC
Reply #86 - Jun 19th, 2018 at 4:17pm
 
Grendel wrote on Jun 17th, 2018 at 9:27pm:
Regardless of the denial of the LW progs here and the ABc it is a politically biased left leaning
prog*
organisation.

That doesn't mean Pepper Pig is biased but Radio National definitely is.




I've never been quite able to figure out just who believes that stagnant policy  is better than progressive policy ?


Do they not own an Oxford ?




… and ANOTHER inquiry finds …

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...

"Stone assessed 46 segments from Lateline and 51 from 7.30 and concluded: “As an independent observer, I found no grounds for concern” in any measurements of bias or prioritising of particular viewpoints."





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