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Reply #45 - Jun 16^th, 2018 at 5:49pm

FRED. wrote on Jun 16^th, 2018 at 5:40pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 16^th, 2018 at 5:23pm:

lee wrote on Jun 16^th, 2018 at 5:09pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 16^th, 2018 at 4:58pm:

Yes. The second allows you to continue to claim bias but without evidence. You are a moron and a trumptard although trumptard=moron anyhow

And the first allows you to claim there was no bias. Without evidence.

And then you go on your pathetic little rant. And again with no evidence. Grin

ive got the OG Report. You've got your pro-trump non-think and nothing else.

So what are the names? moron Grin

names of who? people who were biased??? THERE WASNT ANY.

idiot

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Reply #46 - Jun 16^th, 2018 at 5:53pm

lee wrote on Jun 16^th, 2018 at 5:45pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 16^th, 2018 at 5:23pm:

ive got the OG Report. You've got your pro-trump non-think and nothing else.

Yeah? And if as you say "that an investigation that wasnt into the trump camapaign didnt find any evidence about.., the trump campaign."

And I haven't mentioned trump.

It seems you are having paranoid delusions. Grin

no, not at all. While cleverly avoiding the actual name, you have opposed every investigation into Trump and failed repeatedly to condemn for any of the dozens of easily condemnable acts he has committed.

Your political approval of Trump is exceedingly obvious. Even now, you fail to understand or accept that yet again, a long-awaited 'worst scandal ever' report has concluded that it was nothing of the sort.

This was not the SEVENTH investigation into Hillary Clintons email server, all of which concluded that nothing criminal happened. Think about that. SEVEN. What was wrong with one or even two. But do you criticise? of course not. You keep your criticism for the Mueller probe because.. oh yeah... it targets Trump.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16405 Gender:	Re: IG Report is out Reply #47 - Jun 16^th, 2018 at 6:35pm longweekend58 wrote on Jun 16^th, 2018 at 5:53pm: no, not at all. While cleverly avoiding the actual name, you have opposed every investigation into Trump and failed repeatedly to condemn for any of the dozens of easily condemnable acts he has committed. You mean like i failed to oppose acts of Clinton, Obama? Cry me a river.
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Re: IG Report is out
Reply #48 - Jun 16^th, 2018 at 6:45pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 16^th, 2018 at 5:53pm:

lee wrote on Jun 16^th, 2018 at 5:45pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 16^th, 2018 at 5:23pm:

ive got the OG Report. You've got your pro-trump non-think and nothing else.

Yeah? And if as you say "that an investigation that wasnt into the trump camapaign didnt find any evidence about.., the trump campaign."

And I haven't mentioned trump.

It seems you are having paranoid delusions. Grin

no, not at all. While cleverly avoiding the actual name, you have opposed every investigation into Trump and failed repeatedly to condemn for any of the dozens of easily condemnable acts he has committed.

Your political approval of Trump is exceedingly obvious. Even now, you fail to understand or accept that yet again, a long-awaited 'worst scandal ever' report has concluded that it was nothing of the sort.

This was not the SEVENTH investigation into Hillary Clintons email server, all of which concluded that nothing criminal happened. Think about that. SEVEN. What was wrong with one or even two. But do you criticise? of course not. You keep your criticism for the Mueller probe because.. oh yeah... it targets Trump.

Exactly. Seven investigations, and not one of them came up with a conviction. What does this tell you?

RIGGED.

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Reply #49 - Jun 16^th, 2018 at 10:10pm

lee wrote on Jun 16^th, 2018 at 12:20pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jun 16^th, 2018 at 10:45am:

Try this one if you like. Though anyone is entitled to google publicly released information ???

https://www.scribd.com/document/381806664/2016-Election-Final-Report-06-14-18-0#...

Ok From your reference.

"First, we found that several FBI employees who played critical roles in the investigation sent political messages —some of which related directly to the Midyear investigation — that created the appearance of bias and thereby raised questions about the objectivity and thoroughness of the Midyear investigation. Even more seriously, text messages between Strzok and Page pertaining to the Russia investigation, particularly a text message from Strzok on August 8 stating “No. No he’s not. We’ll stop it.” in response to a Page text “[Trump’s] not ever going to become president, right? Right?!,” are not only indicative of a biased state of mind but imply a willingness to take official action to impact a presidential candidate’s electoral prospects. This is antithetical to the core values of the FBI and the Department of Justice. "

If you read the ruling on that you will see that when they were found out they were removed from the investigation and eventually sacked. The conclusion was that there is no evidence that any of these people were able to use their bias in the official investigation - they had no impact on the results. All their input was vetted and other people made the decisions.

Remember that the major conclusion was that the result was an acceptable outcome made in line with previous decisions.

Remember that the original intention of this investigation was to put Hillary in prison and declare the original investigation to have been corrupt.

The result was the opposite of that.

The IG Ruling:

Quote:

We found no evidence that the
conclusions by the prosecutors were affected by bias or
other improper considerations; rather, we determined
that they were based on the prosecutors’ assessment of
the facts, the law, and past Department practice.

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Re: IG Report is out
Reply #50 - Jun 16^th, 2018 at 10:54pm

lee wrote on Jun 16^th, 2018 at 4:23pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 16^th, 2018 at 4:05pm:

Do you understand that the 500 page IG report shows that the FBI showed no bias - political or otherwise - in either of its investigations?

They found no "documentary evidence" of bias. You do know the difference between documentary evidence of bias and no bias?

What they found in terms of bias is that the result aligned with the facts, the law and past precedents.

This means that there was no bias in the decision.

I guess that you are being overly pedantic because you have no place else to go ?

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Reply #51 - Jun 17^th, 2018 at 8:14am

I can't believe those who support Trump really can't see how they're being manipulated.

Trump is setting you up to question the official institutions because of some "Deep state" or "Establishment" conspiracy so he can escape accountability from the campaign ties to Russia, which from what we already know isn't good, and claim bias and a conspiracy in the investigation.

If this is honestly what you believe is happening please, please open your eyes because you're being conned.

Just look at everytime something negative happens and is reported on, we're instantly deflected back to Clinton or to some other scape goat by Fox News, the White House and the likes of 4chan and /thedonald.

The Trump supporters here then parrot that within this forum.

It's a classic con.

Wake up before it's too late. If you supported Trump it's ok to hold him to account, to the standard that he demanded of and claimed Clinton wasn't living up to.

You don't have to, in fact you shouldn't keep lowering the bar for Trump.

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Re: IG Report is out
Reply #52 - Jun 17^th, 2018 at 9:26am

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 16^th, 2018 at 5:49pm:

FRED. wrote on Jun 16^th, 2018 at 5:40pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 16^th, 2018 at 5:23pm:

lee wrote on Jun 16^th, 2018 at 5:09pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 16^th, 2018 at 4:58pm:

Yes. The second allows you to continue to claim bias but without evidence. You are a moron and a trumptard although trumptard=moron anyhow

And the first allows you to claim there was no bias. Without evidence.

And then you go on your pathetic little rant. And again with no evidence. Grin

ive got the OG Report. You've got your pro-trump non-think and nothing else.

So what are the names? moron Grin

names of who? people who were biased??? THERE WASNT ANY.

idiot

post 33# So in this amazing and deeply suspicious peice of information we discover that FBI agents had deep-seated political opinions because of course no one else does right? and still, this seems to centre entirely on ONE PERSON.

in the meantime Mueller has dozens of people who have committed actual crimes. Wink

SO WHAT ARE THE NAMES? moron

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Re: IG Report is out
Reply #53 - Jun 17^th, 2018 at 9:35am

FRED. wrote on Jun 17^th, 2018 at 9:26am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 16^th, 2018 at 5:49pm:

FRED. wrote on Jun 16^th, 2018 at 5:40pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 16^th, 2018 at 5:23pm:

lee wrote on Jun 16^th, 2018 at 5:09pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 16^th, 2018 at 4:58pm:

Yes. The second allows you to continue to claim bias but without evidence. You are a moron and a trumptard although trumptard=moron anyhow

And the first allows you to claim there was no bias. Without evidence.

And then you go on your pathetic little rant. And again with no evidence. Grin

ive got the OG Report. You've got your pro-trump non-think and nothing else.

So what are the names? moron Grin

names of who? people who were biased??? THERE WASNT ANY.

idiot

post 33# So in this amazing and deeply suspicious peice of information we discover that FBI agents had deep-seated political opinions because of course no one else does right? and still, this seems to centre entirely on ONE PERSON.

in the meantime Mueller has dozens of people who have committed actual crimes. Wink

SO WHAT ARE THE NAMES? moron

You are aware that Paul Manifort is in prison and 20 people have been indited right ?

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Re: IG Report is out
Reply #54 - Jun 17^th, 2018 at 9:58am

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 17^th, 2018 at 8:14am:

I can't believe those who support Trump really can't see how they're being manipulated.

Trump is setting you up to question the official institutions because of some "Deep state" or "Establishment" conspiracy so he can escape accountability from the campaign ties to Russia, which from what we already know isn't good, and claim bias and a conspiracy in the investigation.

If this is honestly what you believe is happening please, please open your eyes because you're being conned.

Just look at everytime something negative happens and is reported on, we're instantly deflected back to Clinton or to some other scape goat by Fox News, the White House and the likes of 4chan and /thedonald.

The Trump supporters here then parrot that within this forum.

It's a classic con.

Wake up before it's too late. If you supported Trump it's ok to hold him to account, to the standard that he demanded of and claimed Clinton wasn't living up to.

You don't have to, in fact you shouldn't keep lowering the bar for Trump.

You already need a shovel to mount the bar.

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Re: IG Report is out
Reply #55 - Jun 17^th, 2018 at 10:15am

Dnarever wrote on Jun 17^th, 2018 at 9:35am:

FRED. wrote on Jun 17^th, 2018 at 9:26am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 16^th, 2018 at 5:49pm:

FRED. wrote on Jun 16^th, 2018 at 5:40pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 16^th, 2018 at 5:23pm:

lee wrote on Jun 16^th, 2018 at 5:09pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 16^th, 2018 at 4:58pm:

Yes. The second allows you to continue to claim bias but without evidence. You are a moron and a trumptard although trumptard=moron anyhow

And the first allows you to claim there was no bias. Without evidence.

And then you go on your pathetic little rant. And again with no evidence. Grin

ive got the OG Report. You've got your pro-trump non-think and nothing else.

So what are the names? moron Grin

names of who? people who were biased??? THERE WASNT ANY.

idiot

post 33# So in this amazing and deeply suspicious peice of information we discover that FBI agents had deep-seated political opinions because of course no one else does right? and still, this seems to centre entirely on ONE PERSON.

in the meantime Mueller has dozens of people who have committed actual crimes. Wink

SO WHAT ARE THE NAMES? moron

You are aware that Paul Manifort is in prison and 20 people have been indited right ?

totally diffent discussion , but away you go! Wink

have a rant

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Reply #56 - Jun 17^th, 2018 at 11:45am

FRED. wrote on Jun 17^th, 2018 at 10:15am:

Dnarever wrote on Jun 17^th, 2018 at 9:35am:

FRED. wrote on Jun 17^th, 2018 at 9:26am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 16^th, 2018 at 5:49pm:

FRED. wrote on Jun 16^th, 2018 at 5:40pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 16^th, 2018 at 5:23pm:

lee wrote on Jun 16^th, 2018 at 5:09pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jun 16^th, 2018 at 4:58pm:

Yes. The second allows you to continue to claim bias but without evidence. You are a moron and a trumptard although trumptard=moron anyhow

And the first allows you to claim there was no bias. Without evidence.

And then you go on your pathetic little rant. And again with no evidence. Grin

ive got the OG Report. You've got your pro-trump non-think and nothing else.

So what are the names? moron Grin

names of who? people who were biased??? THERE WASNT ANY.

idiot

post 33# So in this amazing and deeply suspicious peice of information we discover that FBI agents had deep-seated political opinions because of course no one else does right? and still, this seems to centre entirely on ONE PERSON.

in the meantime Mueller has dozens of people who have committed actual crimes. Wink

SO WHAT ARE THE NAMES? moron

You are aware that Paul Manifort is in prison and 20 people have been indited right ?

totally diffent discussion , but away you go! Wink

have a rant

I would think that the people referenced in post 33 are the same people that I mentioned ? You seem to be the one not understanding but then you were never clear about who you wanted to be named.

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