issuevoter wrote on Jun 13
th, 2018 at 2:23pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 13
th, 2018 at 11:24am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13
th, 2018 at 10:59am:
cods wrote on Jun 12
th, 2018 at 10:58pm:
Kim’s gulags, public executions, and the planned starvation of his people have now all been legitimised on the world stage, thanks to Trump.
Why do you see this as worthy of praise, cods?
Exactly. Simply by meeting him alone gives him the legitimacy he wanted for his regime - which is why all previous US Presidents have been avoiding him (and his forbears). But not only that, Trump talks about him in all these glowing terms and how confident he is of Kim doing the right thing (de facto giving him undeserved status as honourable and trustworthy). And that wasn't bad enough, he's given the only concession - to abandon war games with South Korea describing them as "provocative". He literally got nothing in return.
I'm beginning to wonder if Trump is the worst negotiator in all history.
It was obvious those who hated all of Trump's policies (let alone the man, himself) would find some way to denigrate any progress made on NK. There was Gandalf whinging about peace as if he really cares about anything other than the Religion Peace, which is still on its sanctimonious murder spree.
There is no precedent set as Peckery claims. The USA has been dealing with the despots of the USSR, Arabia and South America for yonks.
There appears to be two factors controlling this thaw in relations. Which came first, I don't remember.
1. NK's underground test fascility began to crumble, leaving them with an enormous task to keep their program.
2. The claim to be able to hit the USA with nukes gave the that country a legitimate reason for a preemptive military operation, if not a strike. This seems to have been taken seriously by the Chinese who summoned their ugly cousin to Beijing. They would have been very polite and offered Kim their hope for his many sons. But if they would have made it clear, if there was going to be a war with the US, it would be the Chinese who decide when and where. To sweeten the ultimatum, they would probably have pointed out how much better it would be for Kim to exploit cheap communist labour on the world market.
like all leties they have selective memories.... trouble is we havnt...
I dont know if Trump is the best man for this job..
but at least he stood up to this... despot... and got a reaction... he told Kim where to go and called off the meet... and Kim was the one that went begging for it to continue...
to me that says a lot.......Kim had more to lose than Trump....
this is a brave thing to do...
Bringing down the Wall wasnt easy either but it did happen...
and yes it means doing business with people who do not have a lot in the way of ethics......but its better than the other choices...