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Jun 11th, 2018 at 12:01pm
 
Usually divided into a nations GDP we get some number based on the size of the population and then compare it to another nation apparently this is supposed to show the health of the economy and standard of living of the population in reality this number tells us nothing.

Gross Domestic Product (GDP based on a nations total economic activity representing the monetary value of all goods and services produced within that country.

As an example let’s take one element of GDP in Australian wine exports year ending 2017 were $2.56 billion.

Australia’s population 24 million.

Now if we divide the wine exports by Australia’s population what do we get….???

2,560,000,000 / 24,000,000 =  106.7

Are we all richer by $106.7 dollars…?? Because of the wine exports, were the dividends distributed evenly to the Australia population…??

It’s meaningless number that tells us nothing about the health and state of the population, the wine or the money.

There's my con....!!!

Where's your pro...???

Own words please.
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Reply #1 - Jun 11th, 2018 at 12:33pm
 
Would you rather live in a country with a per capita GDP of $100 or $100000? You can import any wine they don't make locally, if you can afford it.
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freediver wrote on Jun 11th, 2018 at 12:33pm:
Would you rather live in a country with a per capita GDP of $100 or $100000? You can import any wine they don't make locally, if you can afford it.


It all depends on the size of the population as well as how high the GDP.

Australia GDP 1.2 trillion

Australian Population 24 million

1200,000,000,000 = 50,000
       24,000,000

Average wage in Australia = $80,000 per annum

Qatar GDP 152.5 Billion

Qatari Population 2.52 Million

152,500,000,000 = 60515
       2,520,000

Average wage in Qatar = $138,000 per annum

Nigeria GDP 405.1 Billion

Nigerian Population 186 Million

405,100,000,000 = 2178
       186,000,000

Average wage in Nigeria = $3600 per annum


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Reply #3 - Jun 11th, 2018 at 1:07pm
 
So living in a large country with a GDP of $100 per person would be preferable to you to living in a small country with a GDP of $100000 per person?
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freediver wrote on Jun 11th, 2018 at 1:07pm:
So living in a large country with a GDP of $100 per person would be preferable to you to living in a small country with a GDP of $100000 per person?


Never said that, all I'm saying is as the title suggests its a meaningless statistic as the following proves.

USA GDP 18.57 trillion

USA Population 325.7 million

18,570,000,000,000 = 57015
       325,700,000

Average wage in USA = $81,000 per annum

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Reply #5 - Jun 11th, 2018 at 1:12pm
 
GDP per capita is a far more accurate measure than the flat GDP that is currently used.
Politicians currently use immigration to artificially inflate the GDP figure.
Is GDP per capita perfect? No, but it is more useful than just a GDP figure
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Reply #6 - Jun 11th, 2018 at 1:12pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 11th, 2018 at 1:07pm:
So living in a large country with a GDP of $100 per person would be preferable to you to living in a small country with a GDP of $100000 per person?

wouldn't that only be meaningful if the country was communist and every person got the same share......A few really rich getting heaps and everyone else crap will still be the same gross wont it ?
so a more equal gross product thats lower would be better for all , than a high gross product when only a few get it all the rest a crumb... wouldnt it ?
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Reply #7 - Jun 11th, 2018 at 1:16pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Jun 11th, 2018 at 1:12pm:
GDP per capita is a far more accurate measure than the flat GDP that is currently used.
Politicians currently use immigration to artificially inflate the GDP figure.
Is GDP per capita perfect? No, but it is more useful than just a GDP figure


How is it more useful....???

What does it tell me more than just the total GDP figure...??
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Reply #8 - Jun 11th, 2018 at 1:16pm
 
Current Australian labor participation rate is 65.6%.

Panther's calculation GDP per capita factored by labor participation rate $50,000/0.656 = $ 76, 219 (Panther's AUD 80,000 is the median wage, not the average wage).

From Wikipedia Australia GDP per capita 49,927.82 USD = 65,693 AUD (2016)

You don't have to calculate GDP per capita it is already provided on the internet.

https://tradingeconomics.com/australia/gdp-per-capita

Average wage is around AUD 74,000 (AUD 1432.6 per week, 52 weeks) https://www.businessinsider.com.au/average-australian-weekly-pay-2018-2

There are still discrepancies between the various values which are not explained.

Could it be double counting of Two-headed Tasmanians?
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Reply #9 - Jun 11th, 2018 at 6:22pm
 
Ajax wrote on Jun 11th, 2018 at 1:11pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 11th, 2018 at 1:07pm:
So living in a large country with a GDP of $100 per person would be preferable to you to living in a small country with a GDP of $100000 per person?


Never said that, all I'm saying is as the title suggests its a meaningless statistic as the following proves.

USA GDP 18.57 trillion

USA Population 325.7 million

18,570,000,000,000 = 57015
       325,700,000

Average wage in USA = $81,000 per annum



So all you are prepared to say is what you suggested with the title of the thread? Why not just answer the question?

Would you rather live in a country with a per capita GDP of $100 or $100000?

Does it really depend on the size of the country? If so, how?

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 11th, 2018 at 1:12pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 11th, 2018 at 1:07pm:
So living in a large country with a GDP of $100 per person would be preferable to you to living in a small country with a GDP of $100000 per person?

wouldn't that only be meaningful if the country was communist and every person got the same share......A few really rich getting heaps and everyone else crap will still be the same gross wont it ?
so a more equal gross product thats lower would be better for all , than a high gross product when only a few get it all the rest a crumb... wouldnt it ?
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Another one who cannot possibly answer the question?
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freediver wrote on Jun 11th, 2018 at 6:22pm:
So all you are prepared to say is what you suggested with the title of the thread? Why not just answer the question?

Would you rather live in a country with a per capita GDP of $100 or $100000?

Does it really depend on the size of the country? If so, how?


The simple answer fd is i would like to live in a country which i do with a big GDP turnover and a low population.

Like some of the examples i have given above.
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Ajax wrote on Jun 11th, 2018 at 6:46pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 11th, 2018 at 6:22pm:
So all you are prepared to say is what you suggested with the title of the thread? Why not just answer the question?

Would you rather live in a country with a per capita GDP of $100 or $100000?

Does it really depend on the size of the country? If so, how?


The simple answer fd is i would like to live in a country which i do with a big GDP turnover and a low population.

Like some of the examples i have given above.


So to back up the idiotic claim in your thread title you will feign inability to answer a hypothetical question?
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freediver wrote on Jun 11th, 2018 at 6:52pm:
Ajax wrote on Jun 11th, 2018 at 6:46pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 11th, 2018 at 6:22pm:
So all you are prepared to say is what you suggested with the title of the thread? Why not just answer the question?

Would you rather live in a country with a per capita GDP of $100 or $100000?

Does it really depend on the size of the country? If so, how?


The simple answer fd is i would like to live in a country which i do with a big GDP turnover and a low population.

Like some of the examples i have given above.


So to back up the idiotic claim in your thread title you will feign inability to answer a hypothetical question?


Ok plain answer is of course I would choose a country with GDP per capita $100,000 over a country with GDP per capita $100.

BUT it doesn't necessary mean life will be good because this statistic doesn't tell you very much as has been my point all along.
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Ajax wrote on Jun 11th, 2018 at 7:12pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 11th, 2018 at 6:52pm:
Ajax wrote on Jun 11th, 2018 at 6:46pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 11th, 2018 at 6:22pm:
So all you are prepared to say is what you suggested with the title of the thread? Why not just answer the question?

Would you rather live in a country with a per capita GDP of $100 or $100000?

Does it really depend on the size of the country? If so, how?


The simple answer fd is i would like to live in a country which i do with a big GDP turnover and a low population.

Like some of the examples i have given above.


So to back up the idiotic claim in your thread title you will feign inability to answer a hypothetical question?


Ok plain answer is of course I would choose a country with GDP per capita $100,000 over a country with GDP per capita $100.

BUT it doesn't necessary mean life will be good because this statistic doesn't tell you very much as has been my point all along.


Is it meaningless?
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Ajax wrote on Jun 11th, 2018 at 12:01pm:
Gross Domestic Product (GDP based on a nations total economic activity representing the monetary value of all goods and services produced within that country.

As an example let’s take one element of GDP in Australian wine exports year ending 2017 were $2.56 billion.

Australia’s population 24 million.

Now if we divide the wine exports by Australia’s population what do we get….???

2,560,000,000 / 24,000,000 =  106.7

Are we all richer by $106.7 dollars…?? Because of the wine exports, were the dividends distributed evenly to the Australia population…??


I think you should think of it like the wine industry making the $2.5 billion dollars. Which means that the employees creating the wine are able to spend/invest that $2.5 billion dollars throughout the country.

We are richer overall in an average. But the money is still in the hands of the wine industry.
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Reply #15 - Jun 12th, 2018 at 6:23am
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 11th, 2018 at 1:12pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 11th, 2018 at 1:07pm:
So living in a large country with a GDP of $100 per person would be preferable to you to living in a small country with a GDP of $100000 per person?

wouldn't that only be meaningful if the country was communist and every person got the same share......A few really rich getting heaps and everyone else crap will still be the same gross wont it ?
so a more equal gross product thats lower would be better for all , than a high gross product when only a few get it all the rest a crumb... wouldnt it ?
. Wink Wink


That is basically how oil producing countries are with their GDP. The rich CEOs are living in luxury. Meanwhile, the oil workers are on a wage equivalent to what $10/hr would be here. Working long hours week in and week out to make a reasonable living. Whilst the company sells the oil for cheap, though making good profits, the importers slap their taxes and all the associated costs for the sake of making themselves rich.

Nigeria and Saudi Arabia do that.
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Reply #16 - Jun 12th, 2018 at 12:37pm
 
The Saudis are doing OK. They rank 26 on median income - about a third of what ours is.
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Reply #17 - Jun 12th, 2018 at 9:29pm
 
Valkie wrote on Jun 12th, 2018 at 7:40pm:
If you look at Australia's emissions

And compare them to
China
The United States
England

How much do we put out in comparison?

That's all that matters
Not some twisted ideology about per capita.

Wake up and smell the roses


It's not an ideology Valkie. It's an equation.
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freediver wrote on Jun 12th, 2018 at 9:29pm:
It's not an ideology Valkie. It's an equation.



It has no meaning in the real world. Saudi princes get megamillions from the sale of oil. Of course the workers get less. Working out per capita income would mean the workers on paper would be rich beyond their wildest dreams.
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Reply #19 - Jun 13th, 2018 at 7:23am
 
No it wouldn't. It would tell you what the per capita income is. It comes to about a third of ours. You have to be pretty desperate for that to be your wildest dream.

Would you rather live in a country with a per capita GDP of $100 or $100000?
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freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2018 at 7:23am:
No it wouldn't. It would tell you what the per capita income is.



The per capita income includes that income of the Saudi princes. Which is then generously, on paper, spread to the workers.

Unless of course the Saudi princes are exempt from being included in the income stakes.
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Reply #21 - Jun 13th, 2018 at 3:22pm
 
So what? No-one is saying that per capita income implies communism.

Saudi Arabia ranks 36th in the world on per capita GDP, and 26th in the world on median income. So they actually share their wealth more evenly than what is typical.

Do you have an actual criticism of per capita GDP, or do you just like pointing out the bleeding obvious?
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Reply #22 - Jun 13th, 2018 at 3:33pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2018 at 3:22pm:
So what? No-one is saying that per capita income implies communism.



Wow. talk about things not said. Grin Grin Grin Grin

freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2018 at 3:22pm:
Saudi Arabia ranks 36th in the world on per capita GDP, and 26th in the world on median income. So they actually share their wealth more evenly than what is typical.



So they get up to 36th, when they include the Saudi princes income. What would it fall to if they didn't?

As to your last statement that is supposition. Bye.
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As to your last statement that is supposition. Bye.


What other conclusion would you draw? Do you know what median means?

Saudi Arabia ranks 36th in the world on per capita GDP, and 26th in the world on median income. So they actually share their wealth more evenly than what is typical.
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Limitations of Income Per Capita

Because income per capita is the overall income of a population divided by the number of people included in the population, the figure does not always give an accurate representation of the quality of life due to the function's inability to account for skewed data. Specifically, the metric does not account for the effects of income inequality. For instance, if there is an area where 50 people are making $1 million per year, and 1,000 people are making $100 per year, the per capita income is $47,714, but that does not give a true picture of the living conditions of the entire population.


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Back to stating the obvious eh? Do you agree that this is BS:

lee wrote on Jun 12th, 2018 at 9:53pm:
It has no meaning in the real world.

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Reply #26 - Jun 13th, 2018 at 6:01pm
 
Lees post sums it up perfect.

See below.

lee wrote on Jun 13th, 2018 at 5:49pm:
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Limitations of Income Per Capita

Because income per capita is the overall income of a population divided by the number of people included in the population, the figure does not always give an accurate representation of the quality of life due to the function's inability to account for skewed data. Specifically, the metric does not account for the effects of income inequality. For instance, if there is an area where 50 people are making $1 million per year, and 1,000 people are making $100 per year, the per capita income is $47,714, but that does not give a true picture of the living conditions of the entire population.


https://www.investopedia.com/terms/i/income-per-capita.asp

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Reply #27 - Jun 13th, 2018 at 6:09pm
 
So why are unable to give a straight answer?

Would you rather live in a country with a per capita GDP of $100 or $100000?
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Reply #29 - Jun 13th, 2018 at 6:25pm
 
So you believe in the median?


An example -

4000, 6000, 20,000, 150,000. 4,800,000.

The median is the middle number of the group. IE  20,000.
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This isn't religion lee. Can you at least try to make sense?

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Reply #31 - Jun 13th, 2018 at 8:55pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2018 at 8:11pm:
This isn't religion lee. Can you at least try to make sense?



freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2018 at 4:30pm:
Saudi Arabia ranks 36th in the world on per capita GDP, and 26th in the world on median income. So they actually share their wealth more evenly than what is typical.


lee wrote on Jun 13th, 2018 at 6:25pm:
So you believe in the median?


An example -

4000, 6000, 20,000, 150,000. 4,800,000.

The median is the middle number of the group. IE  20,000.


Means you speak Bull sh!t. 

If a country had a per capita GDP of $100 and my income was $100,000; I could probably live comfortably.

Of course per capita income has no bearing on living expenses.
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If a country had a per capita GDP of $100 and my income was $100,000; I could probably live comfortably.


Still can't give a straight answer eh? How is it that you are able to say anything at all about the country if the statistic you are given is meaningless?

Assume you have to rely on your own wits rather than wishful thinking to earn a living and you are born into this country.

Would you rather live in a country with a per capita GDP of $100 or $100000?

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Of course per capita income has no bearing on living expenses.


Are you honestly claiming that a country with a per capita income of $100 will have the same living expenses as one with a per capita income of $100,000? What rock are you living under?
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Reply #33 - Jun 13th, 2018 at 9:16pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2018 at 9:12pm:
Still can't give a straight answer eh?



Why should I it has no meaning. I live in Australia, I am happy to live in Australia.

If you want advice on immigration go to someone who either cares or for the right money pretends to care.

freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2018 at 9:12pm:
How is it that you are able to say anything at all about the country if the statistic you are given is meaningless?



As I and others have pointed out it doesn't say anything about the country. That's your obsession.

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As I and others have pointed out it doesn't say anything about the country.


So how do you know you could live quite comfortably on $100000 in a country with a per capita income of $100?

Let's try again for a straight answer shall we? Would you rather live in a country with a per capita GDP of $100 or $100000, assuming you have to actually work for a living?
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As I and others have pointed out it doesn't say anything about the country.


So how do you know you could live quite comfortably on $100000 in a country with a per capita income of $100?

Let's try again for a straight answer shall we? Would you rather live in a country with a per capita GDP of $100 or $100000, assuming you have to actually work for a living?


Do you uphold the use of straight answers in your campaign against the Muselman? Do you uphold the right to be a pathetic spineless jellyfish?

We're curious. We're keen to hear your thoughts.

You?
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freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2018 at 9:21pm:
Have you painted yourself into the idiots corner to make some kind of point about climate change?


Have you been thrown onto a wall and landed with a splat?
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Have you painted yourself into the idiots corner to make some kind of point about climate change?



Why? What metric would you look for? Temperature increase per capita? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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So how do you know you could live quite comfortably on $100000 in a country with a per capita income of $100?



You did notice the qualifier? "probably". That denotes uncertainty. Wink
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lee wrote on Jun 13th, 2018 at 9:28pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2018 at 9:19pm:
So how do you know you could live quite comfortably on $100000 in a country with a per capita income of $100?



You did notice the qualifier? "probably". That denotes uncertainty. Wink


So when you say you are uncertain, you mean you know nothing at all?

Why are you incapable of giving a straight answer? Is this idiocy something to do with being a climate change denier?

Would you rather live in a country with a per capita GDP of $100 or $100000, assuming you have to actually work for a living?
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So when you say you are uncertain, you mean you know nothing at all?



About as much as you apparently. Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Lee why are you incapable of giving a straight answer? Is this idiocy something to do with being a climate change denier?

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Lee why are you incapable of giving a straight answer? Is this idiocy something to do with being a climate change denier?



Who denies the climate changes? it has done so for millions of years.
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lee wrote on Jun 15th, 2018 at 12:37pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2018 at 12:19pm:
Lee why are you incapable of giving a straight answer? Is this idiocy something to do with being a climate change denier?



Who denies the climate changes? it has done so for millions of years.


Do you know what a climate change denier is Lee?

Why are you incapable of giving a straight answer? Is this idiocy something to do with being a climate change denier?

Would you rather live in a country with a per capita GDP of $100 or $100000, assuming you have to actually work for a living?
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freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2018 at 6:18pm:
Do you know what a climate change denier is Lee?



A "climate change denier" must by its very definition be a person who denies climate changes.

Of course you are free to submit your own definition. It won't hold water. But it may make you fell comfortable. Wink
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Why are you incapable of giving a straight answer Lee? Is this idiocy something to do with being a climate change denier?

Would you rather live in a country with a per capita GDP of $100 or $100000, assuming you have to actually work for a living?
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freediver wrote on Jun 16th, 2018 at 8:22am:
Why are you incapable of giving a straight answer Lee? Is this idiocy something to do with being a climate change denier?



I told you what a climate change denier is. You have posted no proof of me being anything.

It seems you are not capable of logical thought.

freediver wrote on Jun 16th, 2018 at 8:22am:
Would you rather live in a country with a per capita GDP of $100 or $100000, assuming you have to actually work for a living?



I already answered that question. Too bad if the answer didn't agree with your preconceptions.
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lee thinks he's a big swinging d*** but he just loves daddykins a bit too much and gets away with a doing nothing his whole life  Grin
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Ajax wrote on Jun 11th, 2018 at 12:55pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 11th, 2018 at 12:33pm:
Would you rather live in a country with a per capita GDP of $100 or $100000? You can import any wine they don't make locally, if you can afford it.


It all depends on the size of the population as well as how high the GDP.

Australia GDP 1.2 trillion

Australian Population 24 million

1200,000,000,000 = 50,000
       24,000,000

Average wage in Australia = $80,000 per annum

Qatar GDP 152.5 Billion

Qatari Population 2.52 Million

152,500,000,000 = 60515
       2,520,000

Average wage in Qatar = $138,000 per annum

Nigeria GDP 405.1 Billion

Nigerian Population 186 Million

405,100,000,000 = 2178
       186,000,000

Average wage in Nigeria = $3600 per annum


Not convinced.



Qatar's a Muslim country, Ajax. You need a different measure.

Can you post the inbreeding map please, FD?
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lee wrote on Jun 15th, 2018 at 6:22pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2018 at 6:18pm:
Do you know what a climate change denier is Lee?



A "climate change denier" must by its very definition be a person who denies climate changes.

Of course you are free to submit your own definition. It won't hold water. But it may make you fell comfortable. Wink

It means someone who doesn't  accept human responsibility for climate change, not someone who denies that the climate never changes.
Don't  try to be cute.
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lee wrote on Jun 16th, 2018 at 11:50am:
freediver wrote on Jun 16th, 2018 at 8:22am:
Why are you incapable of giving a straight answer Lee? Is this idiocy something to do with being a climate change denier?



I told you what a climate change denier is. You have posted no proof of me being anything.

It seems you are not capable of logical thought.

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Would you rather live in a country with a per capita GDP of $100 or $100000, assuming you have to actually work for a living?



I already answered that question. Too bad if the answer didn't agree with your preconceptions.


You invented a different question to answer instead Lee. Now why would a climate change denier be so afraid to answer this one?
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Freediver people who don't agree with the AGW hypothesis are not climate change deniers, climate change has been with us from day dot when we were a molten piece of rock.

Climate change will be with us until the sun becomes a red giant and the Earth as we know it ceases to exist in about 5 billion years.

We don't deny that climate changes its been happening in all of our history, how can someone deny climate change.

The crux of the argument is does the trace gas CO2 increase global mean average temperature.....??

Once again if we look into our history there is strong evidence that CO2 and temperature don't correlate.

So when these people on the AGW gravy train tell us that CO2 and temperature do correlate its like they are pissing down your back and telling you keep looking straight ahead its just raining............. Angry

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freediver wrote on Jun 17th, 2018 at 8:31am:
You invented a different question to answer instead Lee. Now why would a climate change denier be so afraid to answer this one?



Which question? You have asked so many and I have answered so many.
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freediver wrote on Jun 17th, 2018 at 8:31am:
You invented a different question to answer instead Lee. Now why would a climate change denier be so afraid to answer this one?



Which question? You have asked so many and I have answered so many.

lol, and lee can add so many strawmans the internet explodes into a million pisstakes of fake journalism,... I mean OPINION!

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lee wrote on Jun 15th, 2018 at 6:22pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2018 at 6:18pm:
Do you know what a climate change denier is Lee?



A "climate change denier" must by its very definition be a person who denies climate changes.

Of course you are free to submit your own definition. It won't hold water. But it may make you fell comfortable. Wink

It means someone who doesn't  accept human responsibility for climate change, not someone who denies that the climate never changes.
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Frank wrote on Jun 16th, 2018 at 10:39pm:
It means someone who doesn't  accept human responsibility for climate change, not someone who denies that the climate never changes.



So you are giving the phrase special meaning. Not one where the words are used in its normal pattern.

But - please quote where I have said that man has not impacted climate.
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Frank wrote on Jun 16th, 2018 at 10:39pm:
It means someone who doesn't  accept human responsibility for climate change, not someone who denies that the climate never changes.



So you are giving the phrase special meaning. Not one where the words are used in its normal pattern.

But - please quote where I have said that man has not impacted climate.

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You mean like "you are a d*ck" that's nomenclature.

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Lee and Ajax, did you know that while Australia's GDP has been slowly increasing, because of high immigration, the per capita GDP has been decreasing.

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Lee and Ajax, did you know that while Australia's GDP has been slowly increasing, because of high immigration, the per capita GDP has been decreasing.

Does that have any meaning?



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Lee and Ajax, did you know that while Australia's GDP has been slowly increasing, because of high immigration, the per capita GDP has been decreasing.

Does that have any meaning?



What meaning do you want it to have? Wink

Anything other than zero  Grin
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freediver wrote on Jun 18th, 2018 at 1:07pm:
Lee and Ajax, did you know that while Australia's GDP has been slowly increasing, because of high immigration, the per capita GDP has been decreasing.

Does that have any meaning?



What meaning do you want it to have? Wink

You feel challenged, we can see that.

And have no idea what the politikalli korrekt response is.

Can't think for yourself, you can only parrot the received party line.  Pathetic.

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You feel challenged, we can see that.

And have no idea what the politikalli korrekt response is.

Can't think for yourself, you can only parrot the received party line.  Pathetic.



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Frank wrote on Jun 16th, 2018 at 10:39pm:
It means someone who doesn't  accept human responsibility for climate change, not someone who denies that the climate never changes.



So you are giving the phrase special meaning. Not one where the words are used in its normal pattern.

But - please quote where I have said that man has not impacted climate.

At ease, Bwian.

You are getting lost in your own confusion.

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At ease, Bwian.

You are getting lost in your own confusion.



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freediver wrote on Jun 18th, 2018 at 1:07pm:
Lee and Ajax, did you know that while Australia's GDP has been slowly increasing, because of high immigration, the per capita GDP has been decreasing.

Does that have any meaning?



What meaning do you want it to have? Wink


Ah, another question the climate change deniers cannot answer.

So tell us Lee, do you think we should increase immigration because it increases GDP? Or decrease immigration because it is reducing per capita GDP?

What does the idiots guide to climate change tell you?
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Ah, another question the climate change deniers cannot answer.



You haven't shown me to be anything. Just more nonsensical blather.

freediver wrote Yesterday at 12:27pm:
So tell us Lee, do you think we should increase immigration because it increases GDP? Or decrease immigration because it is reducing per capita GDP?



Seeing as Australia is an ageing nation, with a low birthrate, I see no problem with sustained immigration.

freediver wrote Yesterday at 12:27pm:
What does the idiots guide to climate change tell you?



That you were looking at it. I don't know where to find it.

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Satellite temperatures Australia 1978 - 2018. UAH.
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Re: Why the per capita statistic is a meaningless one!
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Frank wrote on Jun 18th, 2018 at 8:33pm:
lee wrote on Jun 17th, 2018 at 1:10pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 16th, 2018 at 10:39pm:
It means someone who doesn't  accept human responsibility for climate change, not someone who denies that the climate never changes.



So you are giving the phrase special meaning. Not one where the words are used in its normal pattern.

But - please quote where I have said that man has not impacted climate.

At ease, Bwian.

You are getting lost in your own confusion.


Is lee actually brian?

No smacking wonder the c-words a retard Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin  Roll Eyes
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Re: Why the per capita statistic is a meaningless one!
Reply #73 - Yesterday at 9:39pm
 
AnotherJourneyByTrain wrote Yesterday at 1:06pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 18th, 2018 at 8:33pm:
lee wrote on Jun 17th, 2018 at 1:10pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 16th, 2018 at 10:39pm:
It means someone who doesn't  accept human responsibility for climate change, not someone who denies that the climate never changes.



So you are giving the phrase special meaning. Not one where the words are used in its normal pattern.

But - please quote where I have said that man has not impacted climate.

At ease, Bwian.

You are getting lost in your own confusion.


Is lee actually brian?

No smacking wonder the c-words a retard Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin  Roll Eyes

They are ALL Bwian.
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