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Reply #60 - Jun 12th, 2018 at 7:08pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 12th, 2018 at 6:08pm:
It proves that I am right and you are wrong.



It proves nothing. Except that Australians have different energy usage patterns. Up north more air conditioning? Less in NSW and bugger all in Victoria?

freediver wrote on Jun 12th, 2018 at 6:08pm:
What you say about our emissions has absolutely nothing to do with the size of the country.


Perhaps the difference in emissions is due to transport? Large areas of country, little rail; except around the south east of Australia?

What would you say was the difference in the per capita emissions by state? There must be a reason.

Surely you don't think NT is just due to them being energy hungry pigs?

freediver wrote on Jun 12th, 2018 at 6:08pm:
Your ideas fail the logic test, well before we get to the evidence side of things.



And yet you have not logically outlined the reason for the difference in state emissions.

"But if we massage them all into one convenient per capita a number all will be revealed". Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #61 - Jun 12th, 2018 at 7:12pm
 
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What would you say was the difference in the per capita emissions by state? There must be a reason.


Sure. Look in to how it is calculated. You'll find that it has nothing to do with the size of the country.

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And yet you have not logically outlined the reason for the difference in state emissions.


I don't have to do your homework for you. If you cannot come up with a theory that makes sense, no amount of evidence can help you.

You have failed to make sense, and you have failed to produce any evidence that backs up your claims.
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Reply #62 - Jun 12th, 2018 at 7:17pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 12th, 2018 at 7:12pm:
Sure. Look in to how it is calculated. You'll find that it has nothing to do with the size of the country.


Each state has its own emissions that are calculated similarly. Each state varies from each other.

So tell what are the differing usage patterns that are evident?

freediver wrote on Jun 12th, 2018 at 7:12pm:
I don't have to do your homework for you


No. You can't even do homework for yourself. No theories  - nothing.

freediver wrote on Jun 12th, 2018 at 7:12pm:
If you cannot come up with a theory that makes sense, no amount of evidence can help you.



I came up with alternative scenarios; you? Nothing.

"But.. But...  per capita" Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #63 - Jun 12th, 2018 at 7:35pm
 
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Each state has its own emissions that are calculated similarly.


So does each person if you want to calculate it that way. The numbers don't change if you change the size of the country they are in.

Is that what you are suggesting? Or have you completely given up on making sense?
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Reply #64 - Jun 12th, 2018 at 7:40pm
 
If you look at Australia's emissions

And compare them to
China
The United States
England

How much do we put out in comparison?

That's all that matters
Not some twisted ideology about per capita.

Wake up and smell the roses
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Reply #65 - Jun 12th, 2018 at 8:11pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 12th, 2018 at 7:35pm:
So does each person if you want to calculate it that way. The numbers don't change if you change the size of the country they are in.



reference please.

NT - 1 335 742 sq km  16.5Mt GHG

SA - 978 810 sq km  26.3Mt GHG

So NT larger than SA, less overall emissions than SA. According to your mantra NT having a larger area should at least have the same emissions; not withstanding their population.

freediver wrote on Jun 12th, 2018 at 7:35pm:
Is that what you are suggesting? Or have you completely given up on making sense?



Nope. Not what I am suggesting. That's your suggestion.

But I'll leave you to your delusions. Fact free as they are. Wink
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Reply #66 - Jun 12th, 2018 at 9:28pm
 
What are you suggesting?
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Reply #67 - Jun 12th, 2018 at 9:47pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 12th, 2018 at 9:28pm:
What are you suggesting?



The larger the state the larger the emissions because goods have to be transported those larger distances throughout those states. And that's after getting them into the other states from the manufacturers in the south east corner.

But I have said it before. And all you came back with was "crap!" No thought went into your response at all.

That climate plays a large role in our energy emissions. It is hard to say what Tasmania's emissions would be like if it was powered by fossil fuels, due to a need for heating in winter.
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Reply #68 - Jun 12th, 2018 at 9:57pm
 
lee wrote on Jun 12th, 2018 at 9:47pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 12th, 2018 at 9:28pm:
What are you suggesting?



The larger the state the larger the emissions


Large in terms of what? Population? Per capita emissions?
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Reply #69 - Jun 12th, 2018 at 10:08pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 12th, 2018 at 9:57pm:
Large in terms of what? Population? Per capita emissions?



Larger in terms of remoteness from the capital city. Most goods in WA, NT and Queensland are delivered by trucks. Trucks emit CO2. The longer the distance the larger the emissions.
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Reply #70 - Jun 13th, 2018 at 7:26am
 
How far is each state from it's capital city?
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Reply #71 - Jun 13th, 2018 at 3:17pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2018 at 7:26am:
How far is each state from it's capital city?


lee wrote on Jun 12th, 2018 at 10:08pm:
Larger in terms of remoteness from the capital city.




So now you want to be pedantic? Appear smart? Didn't work.

I can't help if you don't understand remoteness from capital cities.

There are remote areas that need to be supplied. Whether that is solely from the capital cities or is supplied from further afield. Melbourne - Darwin direct for example.

But you are just being too stupid for words. Bye.
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Reply #72 - Jun 13th, 2018 at 4:31pm
 
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So now you want to be pedantic? Appear smart? Didn't work.


Here is the less pedantic version: you are posting meaningless gibberish. All meaning disappears on the most superficial inspection. "Larger" does not actually mean anything when you use it.
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Reply #73 - Jun 14th, 2018 at 4:28am
 
They were talking about converting some roads into solar panels. WTH? The idea being that they capture solar energy over a section of road, and use some of the power to be used to heat the roads during winter to remove ice.

Thought the smart idea was to have every shaded car park around shopping centres with  solar panels installed for the shopping centres' needs. Then they can put panels around any industry that needs power more than usual.
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Reply #74 - Jun 14th, 2018 at 9:17am
 
No good us building roads with solar generation capacity ..... we can't even build them strong enough to last 6 to 12 months without sections breaking up & needing repair from the current car & truck traffic.
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