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Dying coal industry, not so fast there, ladies. (Read 19247 times)
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Reply #180 - Jun 24th, 2018 at 6:44pm
 
So? ... people use reverse cycle air conditioners don't they?

After all the energy companies all say that's the cheapest heating energy.

And industry would use the same power summer or winter ......

and not everyone in Australia lives in a climate that has extremes in both those seasons.
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Reply #181 - Jun 24th, 2018 at 6:53pm
 
...

The summer electricity load curve for households in NSW
Source: EMET Consultants Pty Ltd

https://www.solarchoice.net.au/blog/how-do-i-use-electricity-throughout-the-day-...
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Reply #182 - Jun 24th, 2018 at 10:15pm
 
lee wrote on Jun 24th, 2018 at 6:53pm:


So peak consumption is at midnight? Do you ever stop and ask yourself whether it makes sense before you post it?
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Reply #183 - Jun 24th, 2018 at 11:11pm
 
lee wrote on Jun 24th, 2018 at 6:53pm:


I'm dumbfounded that "pool pump" has it's own band, seriously?

I'm seriously deprived. I have no aircon, heating, pool pumps, dishwashers, on demand HW, clothes dryers, waterbeds, ranges or freezers...

Let alone the money to heat space! Grin
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Reply #184 - Jun 25th, 2018 at 6:16am
 
it will eventually be the number 1 issue in australian politics.

cheap power is the backbone of a competitive economy.

coal is cheaper and more reliable then wind or solar.

coal is going to keep being dug up and sold to our direct trading competitors.

china and india are surging ahead.

china is now the biggest provider of aid to the pacific islands and new guinea.

they will continue to push hard to control australia.

they own ports and agricultural land.

india is also gathering strength.

40 % of Ph D students and 40 % of new entrepreneurs in the USA are indian.

the chinese and the indians will GLADLY burn our coal and then buy our country out from under our feet as our businesses go broke tying to pay for expensive wind and solar power.

wind power is european owned and installed and the profits go back to europe.

they are rent seekers.

right now, at 6.12 am,  wind is providing 4 % of the power to the national grid.



soon australia will face a choice....build coal fired power stations or become a third world country with indian and chinese owners of business.

and if the unions think that they get a bad deal from employers now, just wait til all profitable businesses are run by chinese or indian interests. Wink Wink Wink.

those guys care nought for penalty rates or OH and S.

so wake up, ditch the reknewable energy gaurantee and start building coal fired power stations here.

it really is that simple
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Reply #185 - Jun 25th, 2018 at 11:14am
 
freediver wrote on Jun 24th, 2018 at 10:15pm:
So peak consumption is at midnight? Do you ever stop and ask yourself whether it makes sense before you post it?



Hey, it's from the renewables sector. Would they lie?Wink

Perhaps you like this one? Also from Solar Choice.

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Reply #186 - Jun 25th, 2018 at 11:57am
 
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The biggest snake oil salesman selling the worlds biggest snake oil, green dreams, is predictably imploding!

Shareholders tried to sack him, Tesla sales are plummeting, share prices are crushing, profitability is an impossibility and rocket ships to nowhere remain a fantasy! !

All the billions he's conned and been burning has come from low IQ PC government MPs around world......Real businessman wouldn't dream of giving him a cent, they can add up!

The good news is that his disastrous but predictable collapse could be the final straw for green scams and climate myths globally!

https://trib.al/WmeTAqK


Always thought Elon Musk was a snake oil salesman.  Roll Eyes

Sth Australia got sucked in by him.  Grin Grin
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Reply #187 - Jun 25th, 2018 at 12:23pm
 
lee wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 11:14am:
freediver wrote on Jun 24th, 2018 at 10:15pm:
So peak consumption is at midnight? Do you ever stop and ask yourself whether it makes sense before you post it?



Hey, it's from the renewables sector. Would they lie?Wink

Perhaps you like this one? Also from Solar Choice.

https://www.solarchoice.net.au/wp-content/uploads/Average-NSW-household-in-summe...


That's from your high school assignment, isn't it?
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Reply #188 - Jun 25th, 2018 at 1:08pm
 
Gnads wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 11:57am:
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The biggest snake oil salesman selling the worlds biggest snake oil, green dreams, is predictably imploding!

Shareholders tried to sack him, Tesla sales are plummeting, share prices are crushing, profitability is an impossibility and rocket ships to nowhere remain a fantasy! !

All the billions he's conned and been burning has come from low IQ PC government MPs around world......Real businessman wouldn't dream of giving him a cent, they can add up!

The good news is that his disastrous but predictable collapse could be the final straw for green scams and climate myths globally!

https://trib.al/WmeTAqK


Always thought Elon Musk was a snake oil salesman.  Roll Eyes

Sth Australia got sucked in by him.  Grin Grin

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #189 - Jun 25th, 2018 at 1:23pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 12:23pm:
That's from your high school assignment, isn't it?



Poor freediver. Lost out again.

I know; maybe Queensland has a different usage pattern. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #190 - Jun 25th, 2018 at 9:45pm
 
So which one do you think is correct? The one with peak consumption at midnight or the one made by a 12 year old with excel?
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Reply #191 - Jun 25th, 2018 at 9:58pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 9:45pm:
So which one do you think is correct? The one with peak consumption at midnight or the one made by a 12 year old with excel?



I don't give a toss. Why don't you provide the one that shows peak demand at midday? Wink

Or you can use this one from clean technica for SA.

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That seems to show good solar at 7 pm. must be a good system. Wink
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Reply #192 - Jun 25th, 2018 at 10:00pm
 
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I don't give a toss.


Obviously.

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Why don't you provide the one that shows peak demand at midday?


I did. It was the first one I found on google.
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Reply #193 - Jun 25th, 2018 at 10:09pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2018 at 10:00pm:
I did. It was the first one I found on google.



Where abouts? it seems to have disappeared.

That one above rooftop solar peak output at 7pm. Even the manufacturers wouldn't give those figures. And you talk about dodgy excel. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #194 - Jun 25th, 2018 at 10:29pm
 
Or electricity usage from Horizon power WA.

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Nope. peak demand is still evening.
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