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Reply #120 - Jun 7th, 2018 at 1:01pm
 
But I like stirring schit.

I think too much schit is not challenged.

You should be ready to plant your new tree in August at the latest.
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Reply #121 - Jun 7th, 2018 at 1:04pm
 
Agnes wrote on Jun 7th, 2018 at 12:34pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 7th, 2018 at 8:52am:
If you were to look at prison populations you would find XYY men overrepresented.

what the hell would you know- dummy- how many effing eggs are you short of a scramble ~ ? idjit  !!!!



monk is getting lessons from mothra agnes....he now knows everything... Grin Grin Grin

I saw your comment on

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the ' we hate men message is hateful and unhelpful"


your right I dont HATE MEN   I dont hold them responsible for all our ailments....yep even DV...
some do like to perpetuate that message..

its all mens fault   they murder dont they.... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

weve talked about this so often.but what annoys the crap out of me... they never try to fix the problems.... they just want to see people get up each other so they can sneer about their reactions elsewhere....


the facts are!women do get away with a lot of bitter poo....I have personal  knowledge of women who keep the children away from the father deliberately over and over....... they are not good women or good mothers....but the law panders to them....

they dish out a lot of hurt and frustration....and yes they can push men too far......

and that all gets swept under the carpet when a crime is committed   ..there is no excuse for murder.....

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Reply #122 - Jun 7th, 2018 at 1:09pm
 
Here you go Honeybunch:

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They sell avocado trees.
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Reply #123 - Jun 7th, 2018 at 1:39pm
 
The woman who along with her four children was killed in WA wrote a poem about the ordeal she and her children suffered at the hands of her husband before she finally left him

Mother and children listening in terror at teh sound of the husband's car returning to the home late at night.  The children begging their mother not to say or do anything.  The drunken male fists flying around, the mother smashed face first into the wall, the children terrified, trying to get between them to break it up even though the father was the only one being violent and aggressive

Millions of people in this country alone would read it and it would cast them back to their own childhood or years spent trying to keep the peace for the sake of the kids. Mothers yelling at her kids to 'run'.  And off they'd go in the dark in bare feet, terrified, guilty because they'd left their mother back at the house to bear the brunt of it.  Crawling back inside, frozen.  The dog cowering under the house after another kicking.  The mother collapsed against the wall, her clothing torn, face and body livid with bruises, her hair in clumps on the floor

Those kids, endless generations of them, grow up with PTSD, although to them it's their normal state of mind.  Long after they've escaped the brutal father & destroyed mother, those kids (now adult) still cringe involuntarily and raise their arm protectively to their head and face if someone moves quickly towards them or raises their voice.  They're embarrassed and ashamed when people stare as result.  Some of those walking wounded hold senior positions.  They attend therapy, they practice self-improvement and self-help.  They want to move past the hell of their childhood, but for most it never leaves.  Part of them remains permanently trapped in the horrors they experienced.  It rises to the surface when they're stressed.  It destroys their relationships and careers.  There's a sadness in them that nothing can lift

Men did that to them as a rule. Drunks quite often.  Drunks who claim in court that their wife 'provoked' them into violence.  They claim they 'couldn't help themselves' from responding to the alleged 'provocation' with physical violence

Ah.  Yes.  They were in the pub for four hours and in all that time, none of those GUYS in the pub provoked them

Strange then that a terrified woman and kids unleashed that storm of punches, fists, belts, axe handles and other accoutrements of the bully once he's home

What a shame he didn't lay his fists on those guys at the pub.  Wonder why he didn't?  Maybe because the guys at the pub would have laid him out?  I think so

So it's the bitch who's at fault for provoking him.  The dinner's too cold.  Or he doesn't like the 'look on her face'.  Maybe she dared to say 'hello' when he entered, all stroppy, testosterone reaching boiling pitch after his long, insane drive home as he raged at some guy at the pub or in the street who'd delivered some real or imagined slight

Oh yeah.  He can hardly wait to arrive home to see their white, terrified faces.  The kids out of bed, warned by the sound of his vehicle & now trembling

Sometimes one of the kids tries to head the coming storm off at the pass by saying 'G'day Dad.  You want a drink? ' -- trying to save his mother

But nothing stops the male whose blood is up and who's
eager to deliver pain

Next day he pretends to be in a bad mood to shut them up

One or two nights later he enjoys his carnage-stoked orgasm again

Anyone who's been even close to it knows what it's like.  Maybe people in this forum slinked off to school the next morning, shamed by neighbours stares and already formulating the excuse they'll give the teachers for the whip marks on their legs, the bruises on their arms and cheeks, the patches of missing hair

In the middle of the 20th century, the only thing a woman could take with her if she left a brutal husband was her sewing machine.  Men's rules. In Queensland it wasn't until 1988 that the police would deign to become involved in 'domestics'.  For decades, those coppers had enjoyed dismissing bruised and bleeding wives and kids who came to them for help.  'Can't help you luv.  Not unless he's killed or seriously injured someone '. No govt. allowance back then that would allow women and their children to exist independently, in poverty but relative peace and safety.  The wife usually had to crawl back to the beast for the sake of putting a roof over her kids' heads

Male violence against women, children and those weaker will only cease when the beasts are forced to cease. They're not going to voluntarily stop.  They enjoy it too much. They consider it their right

Life with hard labour would go some way to curb it, although pity any smaller, weaker man incarcerated alongside them

People who work in any capacity where they are required to deal with the public are 'provoked' several times an hour or day --- but they manage to control themselves, don't they?  So don't blame the victims of male/domestic violence.  Put the blame where it belongs.  Mete out appropriate punishment.  Get kids away from that environment.  Protect the victims.  And a lot less bleeding-heart nonsense expended on the beasts.  As a society we cannot afford those beasts, bullies, cowards, throw-backs.  They cause far more damage than wars, greater number of casualties and permanent mental health crises


And grog plays a major role.  A major role in unleashing the animals' sicknesses
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Reply #124 - Jun 7th, 2018 at 1:53pm
 
Agnes wrote on Jun 7th, 2018 at 11:50am:
Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 5th, 2018 at 7:04pm:
Because murder of partners/former partners goes on, cods, that is why I posted that for mothra.

And I will keep posting DV facts until the idiots here are silent and maybe some sensible discussion can happen.

You are probably the least qualified on this forum to talk about it ( women) not being a lover of women yourself- garden  gnomes and women are not sympatico- anyway I think if this MothHAG person was so intelligent how did she manage to get herself banned and now trying to enlist frustrated goons like you and Aussie to have her unbanned- its sad and pathetic to watch- anyone agitating for her should also be banned-she obviously broke FDs internet and thats all there is to it- you are spreading her tired old message and no one here is sympathetic to your cause- the ' we hate men message is hateful and unhelpful"- hate begets more hate- you are betraying your own sex- what do you call that-??? sounds like duck but starts with C-


You are unhappy here Monk- time to leave

what is a cuck ? Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #125 - Jun 7th, 2018 at 1:58pm
 
we have come a long way PZ....fair go...a lot of women do leave the bruites now  we have provided shelter and money....

what is sad... we havent really learnt to live with each other....   grog does play a role  thats for sure...

but why?    why do people brutalise each other..?? what does it solve??? nothing that I know of..
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Reply #126 - Jun 7th, 2018 at 2:49pm
 
Nice post PZ547

(Forum wont let me reply to you or quote you)

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Reply #127 - Jun 7th, 2018 at 2:56pm
 
cods wrote on Jun 7th, 2018 at 8:02am:
rhino wrote on Jun 7th, 2018 at 12:26am:
Valkie wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 7:12pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 2:21pm:
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Casting all men in the same category based on any accusation or emotional claim at all is a certainty to alienate and radicalise increasing numbers of them - and thus the very act of seeking to control violence by using violence is the cause of escalation and thus of the rising death toll.


Nobody is casting all men in the same catagory. What is being cast is all men that murder their partners and/or children.

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But that's just the point, they do.

Men are always seen as the evil bad ones.

Often the abuse starts with the female, the man simply by being stronger does more damage.

Let me pose this little question to you.

Imagine a small child walks onto the road.
A man picks up the child and looks around.

What is your honest first opinion, no BULL shite, what woukd your first thoughts be?

Now imagine the same scenario, but with a woman picking up the child and looking around.

What are you first thoughts this time?

Men are always seen as the aggressors.
Men are always seen as the bad guys.

I took my wife to the hospital a few years back.
He mouth was swollen and bleeding.
I was separated under the guise of filling in forms while they took her into triage.
She had a dry socket after a tooth extraction gone bad.

Only after she managed to explain was I allowed in.

Always men are seen as the bad guy.
Ironic. Valkie complaining about being stereotyped. No doubt though that people take one look at him and immediately judge him to be of an unsavoury character. Sleep with dogs and you get fleas.




its how the world has become rhino.... life has become quite awkward for male... school teachers.... sports coaches....even just walking near a   school... I feel sorry for men today.... but ask yourself   WHOS fault is that?.....not long ago a GRANDFATHER shot his whole family... are men losing the ability to cope???..

I find it hard to believe its overwhelming sadness that drives this......  taking a family members  life   takes us all to another level....

its sad for real men who wouldnt hurt anyone.   but your wife was in safe hands...and it is probably the rules of the hospital.....nothing personal intended
However Valkie is tagged I have no doubt he brings it on himself, constantly spewing mindless bile and hatred will only reinforce peoples negative view of him.
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Reply #128 - Jun 7th, 2018 at 4:45pm
 
PZ547 wrote on Jun 7th, 2018 at 1:39pm:
The woman who along with her four children was killed in WA wrote a poem about the ordeal she and her children suffered at the hands of her husband before she finally left him. . . .


mothra asked me to say:
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[your] post was incredibly evocative and moving and indeed, how it is for far too many people.


I second that.
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Reply #129 - Jun 7th, 2018 at 4:58pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 7th, 2018 at 4:45pm:
PZ547 wrote on Jun 7th, 2018 at 1:39pm:
The woman who along with her four children was killed in WA wrote a poem about the ordeal she and her children suffered at the hands of her husband before she finally left him. . . .


mothra asked me to say:
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[your] post was incredibly evocative and moving and indeed, how it is for far too many people.


I second that.

moth hag  has no cockles and hates it-
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Reply #130 - Jun 7th, 2018 at 5:18pm
 
Not that you are shallow tho, right Fungus?
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Reply #131 - Jun 7th, 2018 at 5:21pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 7th, 2018 at 5:18pm:
Not that you are shallow tho, right Fungus?



not that you have a cock or anything like it Monk- or know whats its used for even ?
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Reply #132 - Jun 7th, 2018 at 5:23pm
 
So you ARE both shallow AND stupid?
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Reply #133 - Jun 7th, 2018 at 5:24pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 7th, 2018 at 5:23pm:
So you ARE both shallow AND stupid?

so you are drunk / stupid and on THC-
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Reply #134 - Jun 7th, 2018 at 5:30pm
 
No, but you ARE both shallow and stupid!
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