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Reply #1 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 12:44am
 
Greece is full of wogs, old boy.

WE DON'T WANT THEM HERE.
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White culture?

Not Western/European culture???

Careful, Soren, I wouldn't want to think you were a racist.
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Reply #3 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:11pm
 
Well considering the Media has flogged 'Western' culture and being 'White' from its Blue Brunette Northern European Scandinavian) bias and its Grey Raven-haired Southern European bias (Latin).

...while in its movies it always depicts the Red-haired
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Blonde males as being EVIL/GAY/RACIST/LOSERS/ETC.
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Reply #4 - Jul 8th, 2018 at 11:16pm
 
Excuse me, the old boy has a tan. He's white on the inside, I can assure you.

He can't help it if he's not tinted. I'll have you know he was imported for his superior pigmentation.
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My question, where does the rest of this thread disappear to all the time?

This is the third version I have seen of this thread.  It get shorter all the time.  Where have all the posts gone?  Roll Eyes
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White culture  beats black culture in every way. Africa is an absolute  craphole full of silly barbaric ideas.
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Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:13pm:
White culture  beats black culture in every way. Africa is an absolute  craphole full of silly barbaric ideas.


Much of which was imported from White European societies, Hammer.   Roll Eyes

And yet it still managed to produce Desmond Tutu and Nelson Mandela.
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Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:13pm:
White culture  beats black culture in every way. Africa is an absolute  craphole full of silly barbaric ideas.


That's a very crude way of putting it, Hammer.
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Brian Ross wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:55pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:13pm:
White culture  beats black culture in every way. Africa is an absolute  craphole full of silly barbaric ideas.


Much of which was imported from White European societies, Hammer.   Roll Eyes

And yet it still managed to produce Desmond Tutu and Nelson Mandela.


Explain? How were they imported from White European societies?
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Reply #10 - Jul 9th, 2018 at 7:01pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:55pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:13pm:
White culture  beats black culture in every way. Africa is an absolute  craphole full of silly barbaric ideas.


Much of which was imported from White European societies, Hammer.   Roll Eyes

And yet it still managed to produce Desmond Tutu and Nelson Mandela.

Most of these silly ideas were imported from outdated  tribal beliefs. Like murdering albino's   so they can use their bones in witchcraft and cutting clits off.
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Brian continually blames past white colonialization  for upsetting African society. Well why is South Africa the most functional African country and people are flocking there from surrounding countries?
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Well considering the Caucasoid (European) and Mongoloid (Yellow Asian) gene pools are relatively 'youngest' (even the Nth/Sth Americans that grew from a small few tribes from Siberia are 'older').

And African 'Negroid' gene pool is far older and more diverse.
It seems that the European/Yellow-Asian gene pool stems from the Black mans 'sperm' about 200,000 years ago.
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Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:13pm:
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Yes, Homo, but do you mean before or after white culture arrived?
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Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 7:08pm:
Brian continually blames past white colonialization  for upsetting African society. Well why is South Africa the most functional African country and people are flocking there from surrounding countries?


People are flocking from Zimbabwe, Homo, known until the 1980s as Rhodesia.

It was named after a jolly hommer called Cecil Rhodes. It's prime minister until 1979 was a straight white fellow known as Ian Smith.

But I'm curious. Which of South Africa's surrounding countries weren't occupied by white culture?
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USA: Black Men get 'free' sex from white women.

Aust: Black Men get 'free' money as well.


...so where is this supposedly 'superior' white culture?
Maybe its just the 'European' one, because the USA/Aust ones are definitely on the receiving end. Grin
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Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 8:04pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 7:08pm:
Brian continually blames past white colonialization  for upsetting African society. Well why is South Africa the most functional African country and people are flocking there from surrounding countries?


People are flocking from Zimbabwe, Homo, known until the 1980s as Rhodesia.

It was named after a jolly hommer called Cecil Rhodes. It's prime minister until 1979 was a straight white fellow known as Ian Smith.

But I'm curious. Which of South Africa's surrounding countries weren't occupied by white culture?


That chap, Ian Smith, wasn't so bad, Kunning. Many Zimbabweans believe Smithy was much better than Bob.
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Reply #17 - Jul 9th, 2018 at 8:38pm
 
Auggie wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 8:13pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 8:04pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 7:08pm:
Brian continually blames past white colonialization  for upsetting African society. Well why is South Africa the most functional African country and people are flocking there from surrounding countries?


People are flocking from Zimbabwe, Homo, known until the 1980s as Rhodesia.

It was named after a jolly hommer called Cecil Rhodes. It's prime minister until 1979 was a straight white fellow known as Ian Smith.

But I'm curious. Which of South Africa's surrounding countries weren't occupied by white culture?


That chap, Ian Smith, wasn't so bad, Kunning. Many Zimbabweans believe Smithy was much better than Bob.


But of course. Hindsight, innit.

Now they have the Crocodile. If he was white, Hommer would love him.
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Bantu culture was 'farm' orientated culture.
In fact, they had the best 'farm' in the world : AFRICA
compared to anything Europe, Middle-East or Asia could muster up.  Grin

Little wonder the West came and spoiled the place with its Politics (as the priority) - as if that was more important  Roll Eyes
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Auggie wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:57pm:
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White culture  beats black culture in every way. Africa is an absolute  craphole full of silly barbaric ideas.


Much of which was imported from White European societies, Hammer.   Roll Eyes

And yet it still managed to produce Desmond Tutu and Nelson Mandela.


Explain? How were they imported from White European societies?


Not the people but the ideas, Auggie.   Most of Africa's problems were created by Imperialism and the Cold War.   Roll Eyes
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Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 7:01pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:55pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:13pm:
White culture  beats black culture in every way. Africa is an absolute  craphole full of silly barbaric ideas.


Much of which was imported from White European societies, Hammer.   Roll Eyes

And yet it still managed to produce Desmond Tutu and Nelson Mandela.

Most of these silly ideas were imported from outdated  tribal beliefs. Like murdering albino's   so they can use their bones in witchcraft and cutting clits off.


Both of those are minor problems, Hammer.   Much worse was the excesses that Imperialism and Cold War rivalry, Hammer.   Much worse, it affected millions.    Roll Eyes
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Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 7:08pm:
Brian continually blames past white colonialization  for upsetting African society. Well why is South Africa the most functional African country and people are flocking there from surrounding countries?


Perhaps because it used it's black citizens effectively as slaves for many generations?

Perhaps because it created an industrialised society, whereas most African colonies were used purely as sources for resources?

South Africa is unique, I am quite willing to admit.   However, it was unique in a bad way initially and then it was unique in a good way, Hammer.
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Brian Ross wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 3:28pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:57pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:55pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:13pm:
White culture  beats black culture in every way. Africa is an absolute  craphole full of silly barbaric ideas.


Much of which was imported from White European societies, Hammer.   Roll Eyes

And yet it still managed to produce Desmond Tutu and Nelson Mandela.


Explain? How were they imported from White European societies?


Not the people but the ideas, Auggie.   Most of Africa's problems were created by Imperialism and the Cold War.   Roll Eyes



Africa has been independent for half a century. It's much worse than it was before the African tribal leaders used Marxist ideas to subjugate their rival tribes under the slogan of 'de-coloniastion and liberation'.

Laughable. Like Aborigines, they operate along tribal lines and hate each other more than they hate whites.

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Frank wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 5:32pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 3:28pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:57pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:55pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:13pm:
White culture  beats black culture in every way. Africa is an absolute  craphole full of silly barbaric ideas.


Much of which was imported from White European societies, Hammer.   Roll Eyes

And yet it still managed to produce Desmond Tutu and Nelson Mandela.


Explain? How were they imported from White European societies?


Not the people but the ideas, Auggie.   Most of Africa's problems were created by Imperialism and the Cold War.   Roll Eyes



Africa has been independent for half a century. It's much worse than it was before the African tribal leaders used Marxist ideas to subjugate their rival tribes under the slogan of 'de-coloniastion and liberation'.

Laughable. Like Aborigines, they operate along tribal lines and hate each other more than they hate whites.


Australia has been "independent" for over 100 years, Soren.  Yet, Australians turn out in droves to see the Royals and the US President when they visit.  Funny that, hey?  Africa has been independent for two generations.  In that time, it has suffered from Cold War thinking, of Cold War powers vying for control, former Imperial powers unwilling to relinquish their control of their former imperial possessions.   Assassinations, purchasing of "influence" and the provision of questionable "aid".  Oh, such fun, hey, Soren?   Tsk, tsk, you must miss the good ol' days.   Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 3:28pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:57pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:55pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:13pm:
White culture  beats black culture in every way. Africa is an absolute  craphole full of silly barbaric ideas.


Much of which was imported from White European societies, Hammer.   Roll Eyes

And yet it still managed to produce Desmond Tutu and Nelson Mandela.


Explain? How were they imported from White European societies?


Not the people but the ideas, Auggie.   Most of Africa's problems were created by Imperialism and the Cold War.   Roll Eyes


To what extent should governments, regimes and individual people take responsibility for their own actions?
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Auggie wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 6:42pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 3:28pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:57pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:55pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:13pm:
White culture  beats black culture in every way. Africa is an absolute  craphole full of silly barbaric ideas.


Much of which was imported from White European societies, Hammer.   Roll Eyes

And yet it still managed to produce Desmond Tutu and Nelson Mandela.


Explain? How were they imported from White European societies?


Not the people but the ideas, Auggie.   Most of Africa's problems were created by Imperialism and the Cold War.   Roll Eyes


To what extent should governments, regimes and individual people take responsibility for their own actions?


Why, when they decide to implement them, of course.   However, the source for those ideas needs to be identified, something Hammer didn't do.   Roll Eyes
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Brian Ross wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 7:08pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 6:42pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 3:28pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:57pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:55pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:13pm:
White culture  beats black culture in every way. Africa is an absolute  craphole full of silly barbaric ideas.


Much of which was imported from White European societies, Hammer.   Roll Eyes

And yet it still managed to produce Desmond Tutu and Nelson Mandela.


Explain? How were they imported from White European societies?


Not the people but the ideas, Auggie.   Most of Africa's problems were created by Imperialism and the Cold War.   Roll Eyes


To what extent should governments, regimes and individual people take responsibility for their own actions?


Why, when they decide to implement them, of course.   However, the source for those ideas needs to be identified, something Hammer didn't do.   Roll Eyes


So, who's more responsible for the plight of Africans: colonialism or harsh/brutal regime? What ratio of causality would you give to each factor?
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Auggie wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 7:52pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 7:08pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 6:42pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 3:28pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:57pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:55pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:13pm:
White culture  beats black culture in every way. Africa is an absolute  craphole full of silly barbaric ideas.


Much of which was imported from White European societies, Hammer.   Roll Eyes

And yet it still managed to produce Desmond Tutu and Nelson Mandela.


Explain? How were they imported from White European societies?


Not the people but the ideas, Auggie.   Most of Africa's problems were created by Imperialism and the Cold War.   Roll Eyes


To what extent should governments, regimes and individual people take responsibility for their own actions?


Why, when they decide to implement them, of course.   However, the source for those ideas needs to be identified, something Hammer didn't do.   Roll Eyes


So, who's more responsible for the plight of Africans: colonialism or harsh/brutal regime? What ratio of causality would you give to each factor?


50/50.  Without the ideology to guide them, they would not have risen to their leadership position.  Without their brutality, they would not have been able to implement their ideology.   It is, I suppose like the chicken and the egg and which came first.   Wink
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Brian Ross wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:27pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 7:52pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 7:08pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 6:42pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 3:28pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:57pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:55pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:13pm:
White culture  beats black culture in every way. Africa is an absolute  craphole full of silly barbaric ideas.


Much of which was imported from White European societies, Hammer.   Roll Eyes

And yet it still managed to produce Desmond Tutu and Nelson Mandela.


Explain? How were they imported from White European societies?


Not the people but the ideas, Auggie.   Most of Africa's problems were created by Imperialism and the Cold War.   Roll Eyes


To what extent should governments, regimes and individual people take responsibility for their own actions?


Why, when they decide to implement them, of course.   However, the source for those ideas needs to be identified, something Hammer didn't do.   Roll Eyes


So, who's more responsible for the plight of Africans: colonialism or harsh/brutal regime? What ratio of causality would you give to each factor?


50/50.  Without the ideology to guide them, they would not have risen to their leadership position.  Without their brutality, they would not have been able to implement their ideology.   It is, I suppose like the chicken and the egg and which came first.   Wink


So, what ideology is motivating them? For example, what ideology motivated Robert Mugabe?
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Auggie wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:30pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 8:27pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 7:52pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 7:08pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 6:42pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 3:28pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:57pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:55pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 9th, 2018 at 6:13pm:
White culture  beats black culture in every way. Africa is an absolute  craphole full of silly barbaric ideas.


Much of which was imported from White European societies, Hammer.   Roll Eyes

And yet it still managed to produce Desmond Tutu and Nelson Mandela.


Explain? How were they imported from White European societies?


Not the people but the ideas, Auggie.   Most of Africa's problems were created by Imperialism and the Cold War.   Roll Eyes


To what extent should governments, regimes and individual people take responsibility for their own actions?


Why, when they decide to implement them, of course.   However, the source for those ideas needs to be identified, something Hammer didn't do.   Roll Eyes


So, who's more responsible for the plight of Africans: colonialism or harsh/brutal regime? What ratio of causality would you give to each factor?


50/50.  Without the ideology to guide them, they would not have risen to their leadership position.  Without their brutality, they would not have been able to implement their ideology.   It is, I suppose like the chicken and the egg and which came first.   Wink


So, what ideology is motivating them? For example, what ideology motivated Robert Mugabe?


Mugabe?  Marxist-Leninism which morphed into Stalinism and finally his own home-grown Mugabeism.   Remember, he started out as a liberationist revolutionary but once he had ousted Smith, he only had his fellow revolutionaries to fight.    Perhaps we should ask what inspired Smith?  Colonialism, I'd suggest.  What do you think?
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Smith was motivated by colonialism, no doubt. Do you know what happened in Rhodesia? The whole sell-out? Smith was willing to cooperate with Muzorewa (the moderate black leader) to form a joint-government. Muzorewa was actually critical of Mugabe (considering that Mugabe forcibly recruited children to fight in his army). The British had promised to support the joint government, but in the end sold out the coalition to Bob.

Do you think things might have been different in Zimbabwe if Smith/Muzorewa had been in government?
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Do you think things might have been different in Zimbabwe if Smith/Muzorewa had been in government?

Well the Africans have a habit of turning rancid, however it would be difficult to be worse than Mugabe.
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Reply #32 - Jul 10th, 2018 at 10:29pm
 
The Africans have just disposed of the Whites in South Africa & Zimbabwe and now they are coming to Australia to RECLAIM their 'Black' brother's land.

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Reply #33 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 2:21pm
 
Auggie wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 9:57pm:
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Mugabe?  Marxist-Leninism which morphed into Stalinism and finally his own home-grown Mugabeism.   Remember, he started out as a liberationist revolutionary but once he had ousted Smith, he only had his fellow revolutionaries to fight.    Perhaps we should ask what inspired Smith?  Colonialism, I'd suggest.  What do you think?


Smith was motivated by colonialism, no doubt. Do you know what happened in Rhodesia? The whole sell-out? Smith was willing to cooperate with Muzorewa (the moderate black leader) to form a joint-government. Muzorewa was actually critical of Mugabe (considering that Mugabe forcibly recruited children to fight in his army). The British had promised to support the joint government, but in the end sold out the coalition to Bob.

Do you think things might have been different in Zimbabwe if Smith/Muzorewa had been in government?


Counter-factuals are always difficult to comment about, Auggie.   I once attended a history conference with a fellow who had been the White military advisor to the Black Minister of Defence under Mugable.   His comment was that his Minister was like a crocodile.   Cunning and very dangerous even if he was uneducated in how a senior military officer was supposed to behave. Guerrila war is vicious educator. My friend had fled Zimbabwe after his stint in the Defence Forces was over.  Not because he was directly threatened but he could see enough to realise that might change.

I am aware that the Rhodesian Defence Forces had a chance to stage a coup before Smith surrendered to the Resistance fighters but chose not to.  The same could have occurred in South Africa but didn't.  Military culture and professionalism worked rather well.
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Reply #34 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 2:31pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 2:21pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 9:57pm:
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Mugabe?  Marxist-Leninism which morphed into Stalinism and finally his own home-grown Mugabeism.   Remember, he started out as a liberationist revolutionary but once he had ousted Smith, he only had his fellow revolutionaries to fight.    Perhaps we should ask what inspired Smith?  Colonialism, I'd suggest.  What do you think?


Smith was motivated by colonialism, no doubt. Do you know what happened in Rhodesia? The whole sell-out? Smith was willing to cooperate with Muzorewa (the moderate black leader) to form a joint-government. Muzorewa was actually critical of Mugabe (considering that Mugabe forcibly recruited children to fight in his army). The British had promised to support the joint government, but in the end sold out the coalition to Bob.

Do you think things might have been different in Zimbabwe if Smith/Muzorewa had been in government?


Counter-factuals are always difficult to comment about, Auggie.   I once attended a history conference with a fellow who had been the White military advisor to the Black Minister of Defence under Mugable.   His comment was that his Minister was like a crocodile.   Cunning and very dangerous even if he was uneducated in how a senior military officer was supposed to behave. Guerrila war is vicious educator. My friend had fled Zimbabwe after his stint in the Defence Forces was over.  Not because he was directly threatened but he could see enough to realise that might change.

I am aware that the Rhodesian Defence Forces had a chance to stage a coup before Smith surrendered to the Resistance fighters but chose not to.  The same could have occurred in South Africa but didn't.  Military culture and professionalism worked rather well. 

Do you respect Mugabe Brian?
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Reply #35 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 2:55pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 2:31pm:
Do you respect Mugabe Brian?


I respect very few politicians, Hammer.   Mugabe always was a brutal bastard as far as I am concerned.  He didn't improve after gaining power.
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Reply #36 - Jul 11th, 2018 at 6:31pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jul 11th, 2018 at 2:21pm:
Auggie wrote on Jul 10th, 2018 at 9:57pm:
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Mugabe?  Marxist-Leninism which morphed into Stalinism and finally his own home-grown Mugabeism.   Remember, he started out as a liberationist revolutionary but once he had ousted Smith, he only had his fellow revolutionaries to fight.    Perhaps we should ask what inspired Smith?  Colonialism, I'd suggest.  What do you think?


Smith was motivated by colonialism, no doubt. Do you know what happened in Rhodesia? The whole sell-out? Smith was willing to cooperate with Muzorewa (the moderate black leader) to form a joint-government. Muzorewa was actually critical of Mugabe (considering that Mugabe forcibly recruited children to fight in his army). The British had promised to support the joint government, but in the end sold out the coalition to Bob.

Do you think things might have been different in Zimbabwe if Smith/Muzorewa had been in government?


Counter-factuals are always difficult to comment about, Auggie.   I once attended a history conference with a fellow who had been the White military advisor to the Black Minister of Defence under Mugable.   His comment was that his Minister was like a crocodile.   Cunning and very dangerous even if he was uneducated in how a senior military officer was supposed to behave. Guerrila war is vicious educator. My friend had fled Zimbabwe after his stint in the Defence Forces was over.  Not because he was directly threatened but he could see enough to realise that might change.

I am aware that the Rhodesian Defence Forces had a chance to stage a coup before Smith surrendered to the Resistance fighters but chose not to.  The same could have occurred in South Africa but didn't.  Military culture and professionalism worked rather well. 


Really? That can't be right, because the British promised Smith that Muzorewa would be the leader. After Smith gave up that power, the British then turned on him. So, the armed forces couldn't prepare for anything; that's probably why the British did it like that.

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