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Reply #60 - Jun 8th, 2018 at 12:45pm
 
Silly old DDH just won't go away even after being exposed as just another Greeny type fraud totally devoid of technical know how and confirming the worst suspicions.

As the hostile belligerent union parasites with their sabotage and extortion force Australian industries to close here and move to China then China has no choice but to dramatically increase their power generation capacity with clean coal of course.




As Beijing Joins Climate Fight, Chinese Companies Build Coal Plants
By Hiroko Tabuchi July 1, 2017

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Workers at a construction site at the Sahiwal coal power plant, owned by China’s state-owned Huaneng Shandong Ruyi Group, in Pakistan. The country’s coal capacity is set to grow 15,300 megawatts from 190. Credit Asad Zaidi/Bloomberg

When China halted plans for more than 100 new coal-fired power plants this year, even as President Trump vowed to “bring back coal” in America, the contrast seemed to confirm Beijing’s new role as a leader in the fight against climate change.

But new data on the world’s biggest developers of coal-fired power plants paints a very different picture: China’s energy companies will make up nearly half of the new coal generation expected to go online in the next decade.

These Chinese corporations are building or planning to build more than 700 new coal plants at home and around the world, some in countries that today burn little or no coal, according to tallies compiled by Urgewald, an environmental group based in Berlin. Many of the plants are in China, but by capacity, roughly a fifth of these new coal power stations are in other countries.

Over all, 1,600 coal plants are planned or under construction in 62 countries, according to Urgewald’s tally, which uses data from the Global Coal Plant Tracker portal. The new plants would expand the world’s coal-fired power capacity by 43 percent.


The fleet of new coal plants would make it virtually impossible to meet the goals set in the Paris climate accord, which aims to keep the increase in global temperatures from preindustrial levels below 3.6 degrees Fahrenheit.

Electricity generated from fossil fuels like coal is the biggest single contributor globally to the rise in carbon emissions, which scientists agree is causing the Earth’s temperatures to rise.

“Even today, new countries are being brought into the cycle of coal dependency,” said Heffa Schücking, the director of Urgewald.

The United States may also be back in the game. On Thursday, Mr. Trump said he wanted to lift Obama-era restrictions on American financing for overseas coal projects as part of an energy policy focused on exports.

“We have nearly 100 years’ worth of natural gas and more than 250 years’ worth of clean, beautiful coal,” he said. “We will be dominant. We will export American energy all over the world, all around the globe.”


The frenzied addition of coal plants underscores how the world is set to remain dependent on coal for decades, despite fast growth in renewable energy sources, like wind and solar power.

In China, concerns over smog and climate change have prompted a move toward renewables, as have slowing economic growth and a gradual shift in the Chinese economy away from heavy manufacturing and toward consumer industries. The addition of domestic capacity, though large on paper, does not mean there will be growth in coal consumption. The current coal plants are operating far below capacity because demand for coal-generated power has slowed considerably.

But overseas, the Chinese are playing a different game.

Shanghai Electric Group, one of the country’s largest electrical equipment makers, has announced plans to build coal power plants in Egypt, Pakistan and Iran with a total capacity of 6,285 megawatts — almost 10 times the 660 megawatts of coal power it has planned in China.

The China Energy Engineering Corporation, which has no public plans to develop coal power in China, is building 2,200 megawatts’ worth of coal-fired power capacity in Vietnam and Malawi. Neither company responded to requests for comment.

Of the world’s 20 biggest coal plant developers, 11 are Chinese, according to a database published by Urgewald.


How Americans Think About Climate Change, in Six Maps
Americans overwhelmingly believe that global warming is happening, and that carbon emissions should be scaled back. But fewer are sure that it will harm them personally.

March 21, 2017
Over all, Chinese companies are behind 340,000 to 386,000 megawatts of planned coal power expansion worldwide, Urgewald estimated. A typical coal plant has a capacity of about 500 megawatts and burns 1.4 million tons of coal each year, enough to power almost 300,000 homes.

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Reply #61 - Jun 10th, 2018 at 10:55am
 
https://cleantechnica.com/2018/03/22/coal-plant-development-continues-drop-secon...
The development of coal-fired power plants fell significantly for the second year in a row in 2017, with new construction down by 73% between 2015 and 2017, thanks in large part to tighter restrictions in China and a lack of private financing in India.
In the fourth annual survey of the global coal plant pipeline — Boom and Bust 2018: Tracking The Global Coal Plant Pipeline — Greenpeace, the Sierra Club, and Coal Swarm found that major declines in development and construction in both China and India led to a 28% year-over-year decline in newly completed coal plants — which was 41% over the past two years — and a 29% year-over-year decline in construction starts — out to a 73% decline over the past two years — and finally a 22% drop in plants in the permitting and planning stage — equaling a 59% drop over the past two years. The report of 2017 coal activities only further strengthens the importance of the 2016 report which, at the time, was thought by many to possibly be an anomaly. This is no anomaly, however, but sign of a much larger trend that speaks dire warnings to the coal industry.
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Reply #62 - Jun 10th, 2018 at 11:25am
 
But they are still building them. There has to be a reason for that. Wink
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Reply #63 - Jun 10th, 2018 at 12:12pm
 
lee wrote on Jun 10th, 2018 at 11:25am:
But they are still building them. There has to be a reason for that. Wink

yes incompetence and corruption off the top of my head. Wink Wink Wink
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Reply #64 - Jun 10th, 2018 at 12:15pm
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 10th, 2018 at 12:12pm:
yes incompetence and corruption off the top of my head.



Hm China - The savour of the Paris Agreement - incompetent; corrupt?

Japan?
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I think you may be off your head. Wink
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Reply #65 - Jun 12th, 2018 at 8:00am
 
Hey DDH they reckon you are not the full quid. I am convinced. Most Greeny types are the same - that's why they are Greeny types.
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Reply #66 - Jun 21st, 2018 at 11:19pm
 
Practical reality will sink stupid Greeny impracticality as time goes on and the cost of renewable rubbish secondary power rises dramatically and the inevitable blackouts occur.

Gas is already in short supply and so assuming primary gas power is simplistic. Primary Hydro power is good but is limited by suitable dam locations.

Relying on the secondary power wind and solar is simplistic as blackouts are inevitable as energy storage is nowhere big enough to act as a temporary "primary supply".

Already Tomago aluminium smelter is in doubt if Liddell coal primary power is "replaced" with spasmodic unreliable secondary wind and solar. If an aluminium smelter loses power then a catastrophic solidification of molten aluminium occurs.

The mad as cut snakes extremist Greenies' "solution" is to close down all industry in Australia!!!!!!


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New coal-fired power in Australia: a case of politics before practicality?
By Heidi Vella 27 FEBRUARY 2018 ANALYSIS

Prior to last year’s local elections in Queensland, Australia last year, it was reported that a study outlining the viability of a new HELE coal-fired power plant was buried by the incumbent government, because, the opposition party argues, it didn’t fit their election agenda. The furore highlights the political baggage now attached to new coal power in Australia,; but could ideology hinder common- sense decision-making around the growing need to provide affordable and reliable energy?

A few weeks prior to polling day in Queensland in November 2017, the opposition party accused the incumbent Labor Government of purposely withholding an Energy Department-commissioned report into the building of a new high-efficiency / low-emission (HELE) coal-fired power plant in the state.

The leaked report, according to local media, identified a range of risk factors, including high carbon emissions and the possibility the asset could become stranded, but also stated that the plant could provide a large-scale source of storable, reliable and diversified energy in Queensland.

State Energy Minister Mark Bailey dismissed the report, saying it ‘lacked basic considerations and was not taken seriously’.


During the election campaign, which was eventually re-won by the Labor party, the LNP opposition party vowed to champion a new 800MW ‘ultra-supercritical’ coal-fired power station to be built by private investors.

The party said it could help drive down electricity prices – Australia is currently plagued by high energy prices that rose by almost 11% during 2017 – and shore-up supply in the north.

Mixed opinions on coal power
“Coal-fired power is politically sensitive in Australia because it involves balancing the environmental, affordability and reliability trilemma; with coal, you essentially get cheap, reliable power but at an environmental cost,” says Matt Rennie, an energy sector specialist at EY Australia.

According to the government, Australia has the fourth-largest share of coal reserves in the world, which makes coal-fired power more economically viable in Australia and why it currently produces around 63% of total electricity generation nationally, with that figure reaching 80%-90% in some states.

“Australia has the fourth-largest share of coal reserves in the world.”
Last year, a similar situation to that in Queensland unravelled in the neighbouring state of New South Wales, with some political parties pushing the Premier to use public funds to build a new coal-fired power plant, which she opposed.

There are clearly mixed opinions about whether more coal-fired power plants are the answer to Australia’s ongoing energy woes.

ABC news reported that a former power company executive, Chris Walker, said the LNP’s plans in Queensland were akin to an idea conceived by “guys in a bar who have had too much to drink”.

Whereas, Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull touted the project as a candidate for federal funding via the Northern Australia Infrastructure Facility.

However, a Lowy Institute survey of 1,202 adults last year found 81% of respondents wanted policymakers to focus on clean energy sources, such as wind and solar, even if it costs more to ensure grid reliability.

Australia’s energy problem
Australians, both in and out of politics, may be keen to reduce their reliance on coal, but the complexities of the country’s energy market make it a hard move.

“There are some difficult choices ahead due to the economics of power generation in Australia,” says Rennie.

“When coal plants come to the end of their useful life, is it realistic for them to be replaced by renewables, or do we look to cleaner forms of coal [such as HELE and carbon capture] as an easy way to bring on large amount of new capacity?”

The market is, in fact, backing renewables, with more than 35 projects under construction during 2017. However, the produced energy is coming to the market in the $70-$80 a MWh range, according to Rennie, which is significantly higher than the $20MWh or even $50MWh seen in other countries.


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https://www.power-technology.com/features/new-coal-fired-power-australia-case-po...
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Reply #67 - Jun 21st, 2018 at 11:36pm
 
juliar wrote on Jun 12th, 2018 at 8:00am:
Hey DDH they reckon you are not the full quid. I am convinced. Most Greeny types are the same - that's why they are Greeny types.


Takes one to know one socko Wink
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Reply #68 - Jun 22nd, 2018 at 12:08am
 
The silly old troll is STILL hanging around desperately trying to get some attention. What a fool. Wonder if he/she is not the full quid like DDH ?
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Reply #69 - Jun 25th, 2018 at 12:05pm
 
Gosh nobody seems interested in coal anymore!!!!

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NEW DELHI, May 11 (Reuters) – India's thermal coal imports rose by more than 15 percent in the first three months of 2018, with
Indonesia accounting for about three-fifths of total supplies
, according to vessel arrival data from Dubai-based coal trader American Fuels & Natural Resources.


India's rising coal imports are contributing to higher demand across Asia this year, which has pushed benchmark Australian coal cargo prices above $100 per tonne, a price not seen at this time of year in more than half a decade.

Imports rose to 39.6 million tonnes during the three months ended March 31, the data from American Fuels, a supplier of coal from the United States, showed.

That is up from 34.4 million tonnes of thermal coal during the first three months of 2017, according to Indian government data which matched the data from American Fuels.

Government data for the first three months of 2018 has not been released yet.

The American Fuels figures are broadly in line with data from an Indian-based trading company reviewed by Reuters that showed imports were 37 million tonnes in the quarter.

India will likely increase 2018 thermal coal imports after two straight years of declines because of domestic logistic bottlenecks, regulatory changes and surging power demand.

Vasudev Pamnani, a senior trader at American Fuels, said India's demand for coal with a higher calorific value, most of which has to be imported, was increasing since buyers want more energy from the coal they purchase to offset higher prices and the logistical problems, mainly railway delays.

South Africa was the second-largest source of foreign coal during the first quarter, supplying about one-fourth of the total imports, with the United States and Australia being the next largest sources, the data showed.

Adani Enterprises, India's largest coal trader, accounted for about one-sixth of all the imports, purchasing about 6.51 million tonnes during the period, the data showed.

The Tata Group imported 5.23 million tonnes of coal during the period with Swiss Singapore, part of the Aditya Birla Group, taking in 2.92 million and JSW Group bringing in 2.48 million.

The companies did not respond to requests for comment.

The ports of Mundra, Krishnapatnam and Kandla handled about the two-fifths of all of the imports, according to American Fuels.



What a disgrace. No wonder this country is going backwards

Indian conglomerate Adani Enterprises Ltd. has taken a 896.4 million rupees ($13.3 million) writedown on its Carmichael coal mine in Australia’s Queensland state due to delays and legal challenges.

The impairment charge was booked by its Australian unit Adani Mining Pty in the quarter ended March 31, Adani Enterprises said in a stock exchange filing Thursday in Mumbai.

Even though the writedown is small compared to the overall size of the A$16.5 billion ($12.4 billion) project, it’s the latest sign of strain to hit the massive thermal coal development.

The billionaire Gautam Adani-backed company has pushed back by one year its original 2020 target to start the Carmichael mine after failing to obtain up to A$3 billion of funds by a March deadline. Major financiers in Australia and China have excluded themselves from funding the development because they oppose polluting fossil-fuel projects.

The write-downs stem from Adani being forced to duplicate studies and redesign elements of the Carmichael project due to delays in regulatory approvals and ongoing legal challenges, an Australian spokesman said in an email Friday. Additional labor costs have also contributed to the charge, he said.
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Reply #70 - Jun 25th, 2018 at 12:33pm
 
An amazing election winning initiative hangs tantalizingly in front of the Govt - bung on the coal and don't delay and immediately reduce power prices and keep industry in Australia so long as the hostile unions are controlled.

Hydro is nice but dam loactions are limited.

Cut renewable rubbish subsidies and the uneconomical renewable rubbish will disappear overnite.

It is basically and technically IMPOSSIBLE to supply Australia's energy from erratic unreliable renewable rubbish.

Compared to coal generators the output of renewable rubbish is laughably small and energy storage options are far too small to be of any use during overcast and windless days - just ask high power cost SA!!!

And silly Bulldust Billy is pledging to devastate our power supply with 50% renewable rubbish - what an election loser!!!!


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Government’s dogged opposition to modern, clean coal fired power generators is a foolish and fraudulent ideology foisted on the nation.

They argue irrationally for renewables that can only at best be supplementary. Is it from drinking the UN Kool-Aid? Is it a misguided concept of playing to the shrill Greens? Or is it simply Malcolm Turnbull’s personal quest for eternal adulation from few nincompoops?

Is it good governance for other nations to burn Australian coal for commercial advantage—to attract Australian manufacturers to move off shore to compete in a global market? Will the last one out please turn off the lights!

Energy Minister Josh Frydenberg is responding to the ­Coalition unrest by launching a new charm offensive to quell government concerns about the impact of his signature policy.



Coalition elders fire up for coal-fired power, seek to end infighting
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Coalition elder statesmen are ­urging the government to facilitate the entry of new coal-fired power stations alongside the ­national energy guarantee to drive down electricity prices and ­secure reliability as they seek to avoid a new round of government infighting.

Howard government resources minister Ian Macfarlane yesterday urged the Coalition to consider covering the commercial and carbon risks for any private sector investment in a new clean-coal-fired power station and insisted the major energy users be compensated for their role in ensuring reliability of supply under the ­energy guarantee.

Former Nationals senator Ron Boswell — who met with party colleagues in Canberra on Friday — is also calling for a new policy to complement the energy guarantee, arguing in favour of an open tender for new supply through a power purchasing agreement over the next two decades. He predicts coal will easily emerge as the most competitive.

The intervention in the debate came as Nationals MPs met yesterday at Parliament House in Canberra amid mounting concern that internal divisions on the energy guarantee could distract from the government’s Senate victory last week after it passed its $144 billion personal income tax package. Some MPs are now strongly pushing for a special deal behind the scenes, arguing in favour of incentives to drive investment in coal-fired power as the best way of minimising the internal opposition to the energy guarantee.

Energy Minister Josh Frydenberg is responding to the ­Coalition unrest by launching a new charm offensive to quell government concerns about the impact of his signature policy. Under the initiative, business and industry heads will speak to the ­Coalition backbench to outline the benefits of the energy guarantee.

Speakers to the Coalition backbench energy committee tomorrow morning will include BlueScope chief executive Mark Vasella; BHP chief commercial ­officer Arnoud Balhuizen; Minerals Council of Australia chair Vanessa Guthrie; Business Council of Australia chief executive Jennifer Westacott; Australian Industry Group chief executive Innes Willox; and National Farmers Federation president Fiona Simpson.

Writing in The Australian today, Mr Frydenberg appeals to his Coalition colleagues to heed the message from business leaders to end the 10-year impasse on ­energy and climate policy.

“If we can’t listen to them now, after a decade of missteps in ­energy policy, then when?” Mr Frydenberg asks. “People are simply sick and tired of the hyper-partisanship and mistruths that have characterised this debate. Unless we effectively manage the inevitable transition to a cleaner energy future, we will not deliver the lowest cost market-based outcomes that are in the interests of consumers. This is why the NEG is so important and should be supported.”

Chair of the Coalition’s backbench committee on energy policy, Craig Kelly, responded by telling The Australian: “We’re ­always interested in what they have to say. However, it’s surprising that some of these industry groups might have taken a position on the national energy guarantee when the final details are yet to be released.”




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This enlightening exposure of renewable rubbish insanity continues...


Others are speaking out in favour of the energy guarantee, with NSW Liberal senator Jim Molan saying his colleagues “must be practical”. He said the policy should be supported “without compromise” at the Council of Australia Governments’ Energy Council meeting in August.

“Current or planned renewables are here to stay and dispatchable Snowy 2.0 makes them reliable. Under the NEG, subsidies will ultimately go. We will achieve our Paris obligations early,” he said. “The NEG plus other government initiatives is the only comprehensive policy and should force household bills down.”

Key conservative Liberal MP Michael Sukkar also told the ABC yesterday he believed the NEG would achieve its twin objectives of underpinning the security and stability of the electricity system.

“Those two objectives are things we all agree on and within those two objectives we will see the NEG pass through the parliament,” he said.

Mr Macfarlane yesterday welcomed the energy guarantee as a “great concept” that would help manage an increased renewables energy mix, but urged the government not to rule out taking steps to promote new coal-fired power stations. “It’s virtually too late. But if the government wanted to step in and say we will support the most efficient, low-emissions plant in the southern hemisphere and cover the commercial and carbon risk — you’d then have a surplus of electricity in the market which would lower prices,” he said.

Mr Macfarlane is the head of the Queensland Resources Council and led the Coalition’s negotiations in 2009 with Labor’s Penny Wong over the proposed emissions trading scheme developed by the Rudd government.

He said yesterday that any decision by government to cover the risks of a new coal-fired power station should take place in the “context of a growing renewables mix”. But he noted new coal-fired power plants featured in the power generation mix in Germany, Japan, America, China and India.

“We have philosophically said ‘no’ to that,” he said. “What’s causing the current ‘crisis’ is that coal-fired generators are being closed down and not being replaced.”

An alarm was also sounded on the latest design work for the ­energy guarantee, with Mr Macfarlane saying he had deep concerns about any plan that would require the 100 biggest energy users to contract their own back-up power or agree to dial down usage when required in order to keep the lights on. “In a country with so much energy that we aren’t in a position to reliably produce enough power for the 100 biggest users to operate at maximum ­efficiency is a travesty,” he said.

He argued the biggest energy users were being treated as “defacto virtual generators” and hoped it would be made clear they would be compensated for freeing up power to be diverted elsewhere in the market. “If a large consumer is asked to switch off a pipeline or a dragline or whatever then they should be paid for the electricity they release into the grid at the default rate,” he said. “It’s got to be a fair system”.


Mr Boswell — who played a key role in pushing back against green policies in the 2009 leadership change from Malcolm Turnbull to Tony Abbott — has also proposed a “supplementary plan” to complement the energy guarantee. Writing in The Australian today, Mr Boswell says he is not convinced the NEG will bring on new baseload investment and suggests the government commit to an “an open tender for new supply through a power purchasing agreement for 15-20 years”.

“It might be new super-efficient coal, gas, or renewables with batteries or some mix of the above. But the prime consideration should be price and reliability,” he writes. Mr Boswell says that “new low emissions coal will bolt in” under such a plan. Let the most cost-effective and reliable energy source win in a reverse auction.”

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Reply #72 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 9:39am
 
Is coal about to re-enter the room as common sense is starting to prevail that renewable rubbish can never supply Australia's energy unless ALL industry in Australia is closed down - and that is what the extremist Greenies want to happen.



Energy minister would welcome new coal-fired power plant. Josh Frydenberg sends the positive signal about coal before Tuesday’s internal government deliberations
Katharine Murphy Political editor Tue 26 Jun 2018 04.00 AEST Last modified on Tue 26 Jun 2018 04.01 AEST

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Energy minister Josh Frydenberg says he would welcome a new coal-fired power plant being built in Australia. Photograph: Julian Smith/AAP

Energy minister Josh Frydenberg has declared he would welcome the construction of a new coal-fired power plant in Australia ahead of meetings on Tuesday where internal critics of his electricity plan are expected to voice their objections.

Frydenberg used an interview with News Corp to send the positive signal about coal before Tuesday’s internal deliberations, with some Nationals still on the war path about the government either subsidising new coal plants or bankrolling the refurbishment of existing assets.

While economic modelling associated with the national energy guarantee assumes there will be no new coal built under the policy, Frydenberg said: “I would welcome a new coal-fired power station for our country because it supplies reliable baseload power and it has served us well in the past and will continue to serve us well in the future.”

Frydenberg said the national energy guarantee would prolong the operating life of the existing coal fleet – an eventuality which some of the state and territory governments, which will ultimately make or break the policy, profoundly object to.

“We have twenty coal-fired power stations in Australia today with an average life of 27 years,” the federal energy minister said. “While they may not live forever, they will certainly live longer than that 27 years and the Neg will provide that level of stability for the investors and the owners of those assets.”

He said under the guarantee, “the reliability that coal provides the system will be valued and [coal is] much more likely to be staying in the system under the Neg than not”.


In order to bolster the case for the Neg, and keep a lid on the internal complaints from restive conservatives, Frydenberg has organised a delegation of business leaders to address a special meeting of the Coalition backbench committee on energy and the environment early on Tuesday morning, before the regular gathering of the Coalition party room.

The most outspoken critics of the policy are the former prime minister Tony Abbott and the chairman of the backbench energy and environment committee Craig Kelly. Nationals, who met separately on Monday, are divided on the policy.

Nationals MP Mark Coulton told Guardian Australia before Tuesday’s discussion the Neg was “heading in the right direction” but he said the government needed to be highly attentive to safeguarding reliability and power price reductions.

“I think we are on the right track but we have to look after affordability and reliability,” Coulton said. “Wherever this lands I’m concerned to make sure my oldies [in his electorate of Parkes] can still afford to run their air conditioners.”

He said of his colleagues there were different views about the Neg, but he said the junior Coalition partner had not split into “camps”.

Fellow National John “Wacka” Williams said he believed the Neg was “a step to defeat an emissions trading scheme or a carbon tax”.

But like Coulton, he said lower power prices and reliability needed to be paramount in the government’s thinking. He said power companies “had to guarantee supply and if they fail to do that, it gives the government the option of stepping in to guarantee supply, and that means building a coal-fired power plant”.

Victorian National Andrew Broad, who is a supporter of the Neg, has been pushing behind the scenes for months for the government to supplement the policy by funding the refurbishment of the existing coal fleet to extend the operating life of the new coal plants and lower their greenhouse gas emissions.


“I think the government should provide a fund to assist with that process,” Broad said.

Dissidents have been escalating their criticisms about the Neg over the past fortnight because the current sitting is their last chance to try to scuttle the policy, or lock Frydenberg into a no-compromise posture, before a make-or-break meeting of state and territory energy ministers in early August.

Any state or territory could veto the Neg when the Coag energy council meets in August. The ACT has warned it will be very difficult to sign up if Frydenberg is not in a position to offer any compromises.

Tuesday’s backbench committee meeting will be attended by representatives of the Business Council of Australia, the Minerals Council of Australia, BHP, the National Farmers Federation and the Ai Group – groups that are all broadly supportive of the government’s energy policy.

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Reply #74 - Jun 29th, 2018 at 12:00pm
 
Gosh that normally ignored ridiculous troll drongo is STILL hanging around trying to get some attention with silly off topic spamming. Definitely not the full quid.

Must be so in awe of my superior ability he/she is stalking me.
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