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Reply #90 - Jun 19th, 2018 at 9:44am
 
Bit of fool drool from the obnoxious trolls.


Renewable hydrogen (H) could fuel Australia's next export boom after CSIRO breakthrough
By Rebecca Turner Updated 12 May 2017, 1:00pm

Australia's next big export industry could be its sunlight and wind, as game-changing technology makes it easier to transport and deliver their energy as hydrogen.

Industry players are even talking up renewable hydrogen as the next liquefied natural gas (LNG) industry, which could supply hydrogen to power cars, buses, trucks and trains in Japan, South Korea and even Europe.

Their plans have been given a boost by a CSIRO-developed metal membrane, which allows the high-purity hydrogen, needed for hydrogen-powered cars, to be separated from ammonia.

What is renewable hydrogen?
Hydrogen is a carrier of energy
Renewable hydrogen is produced by purifying seawater, then separating the hydrogen and oxygen via electrolysis
The process of separation is powered by solar or wind energy
The hydrogen becomes a vehicle for storing renewable energy such as solar or wind
It is converted into transportable forms for export


CSIRO principal research scientist Michael Dolan said the technology, now being trialled on an industrial scale in Australia, was "the missing link" that allowed H to be transported and used as an energy source.

"One of the great problems with H is that it's difficult to transport over long distances because it has such a low density," he told ABC News.

"Ammonia is a very nice way of transporting H from point A to point B — be it from Australia to Japan, for example — because it actually has a higher hydrogen density than liquid H."

The technology the CSIRO has developed can then be applied at the point of use, converting ammonia back into hydrogen for use in transport fleets.

Dr Dolan said the technology had the potential to turn Australia into a renewable energy superpower.

"Hydrogen is the ultimate clean fuel. The only emission arising in the use of hydrogen is water. You can also manufacturer hydrogen completely renewably," he said.

While there are only 4 H cars in Australia — produced by Hyundai and Toyota — South Korea already has hydrogen-powered taxis on its streets.

"There's potentially a very big market for the technology, given these cars are starting to get onto the road in pretty big numbers in Asia and Europe," Dr Dolan said.

In Japan, the 2020 Tokyo Olympics will be a showcase of its dream of becoming a "hydrogen society", as it shifts away from nuclear power after the Fukushima disaster.

While a long way behind these countries, Australian govts are beginning to actively embrace the potential of H as a clean alternative fuel source — and export industry.

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INFOGRAPHIC: How renewable H is produced. (Supplied: Renewable Hydrogen)

SA, for example, is looking to invest in hydrogen projects via a $150 million clean energy fund as it tries to secure its energy supplies.

The ACT Govt announced last year it would spend $180 million on hydrogen projects, including a fleet of cars and a refuelling station.

It comes as the Australian Renewable Energy Agency recently made the exporting of renewable energy such as H one of its top priorities for $800 million of investment.

Companies line up for H
One of the key players in the industry is Andrew Want, the managing director of Renewable H — a company involved in projects in New South Wales, South Australia and Western Australia.

Describing the industry as bottling and shipping sunlight on an industrial scale, Mr Want said renewable H was at a similar stage as LNG in the 1970s, when technology allowed natural gas to be liquefied and transported.

"We genuinely have another LNG industry on our hands, exporting energy," he said.

Mr Want said a renewable H export industry was nearing commercial viability, with the CSIRO technology an important development.


GIF: CSIRO-developed membrane extracts H from ammonia

"What the CSIRO technology is on the cusp of achieving is using renewable ammonia as a very efficient way to transport H — and that's a game-changer," he said.

"It means Korea, Japan, the whole of SE Asia can now import Australian renewable energy in the form of renewable H.

"Using the CSIRO technology, they can 'crack' the H back out and run transport vehicles on it, zero carbon."

One company investigating the potential is Norwegian company Yara, which exports ammonia from its production plant in WA's Pilbara.

Yara is working towards a trial involving a 2.5MW solar array to power its electrolysis process, with the possibility of eventually fuelling its entire operations using the region's abundant sunlight.

The local Mayor, Peter Long from the City of Karratha, is a champion of the industry in a region well-placed to capitalise on its abundant sunlight, export facilities and gas infrastructure.

"It's totally renewable, [could provide] jobs forever and we can actually export the H gas overseas to Japan," he said.

Tomorrow's "H society" may still be a dream — but the Pilbara and Australia appear to be well-placed to play a key role.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-05-11/hydrogen-breakthrough-could-fuel-renewable...
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ACCELERATING THE REALISATION OF A HYDROGEN ECONOMY IN AUSTRALIA

Hydrogen is the ultimate energy carrier that can supply the future clean energy needs of Australia.

​Hydrogen Mobility Australia's vision is a hydrogen society built upon clean and renewable energy technology, including hydrogen powered transport.

We are a collection of vehicle manufacturers, energy companies, infrastructure providers, research organisations and governments with a mission to make this hydrogen vision a reality.

​The objectives of Hydrogen Mobility Australia are:

​ - To accelerate the commercialisation of new hydrogen and fuel cell technologies for transportation, export, storage and stationary applications in Australia

​ - To provide a forum for effective communication and collaboration of all stakeholders in the hydrogen and energy community

​ - To progress Australia’s shift towards a future hydrogen society built upon clean and renewable energy technologies

​We invite interested individuals and organisations to join us on this exciting journey. Get in touch with us here.

https://www.hydrogenmobilityaustralia.com.au/

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Reply #92 - Jun 19th, 2018 at 10:00am
 
While the Tesla "dream" turns into a bankrupt nightmare with crumpled charred Teslas filling the junkyards the clean green SAFE hydrogen steadily walks in to takeover and make the inconvenient range anxiety fiery death trap all electric heaps obsolete again just like about 200 hundred years ago.




State Govt to invest in "green hydrogen" industry
David Washington ADELAIDE Friday September 08, 2017

The State Government wants to create a hydrogen export industry as part of a strategy that includes opening hydrogen refuelling stations across South Australia.

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Toyota's "Mirai" hydrogen-powered car. Photo: Kyodo

At the moment Australia lacks permanent refuelling stations for hydrogen fuel cell-powered cars, which are touted as a potentially green alternative given they only emit water (although the effective carbon emissions from a vehicle depend on how the hydrogen was produced).

State Energy Minister Tom Koutsantonis said today the Government was opening its renewable technology fund to pitches from companies to open hydrogen refuelling stations across South Australia.

He said the move would give motorists a new green transport choice, alongside electric vehicles.

The Government is also planning to add “at least” six hydrogen fuel cell buses to its Adelaide Metro fleet within the next two years.

However, Koutsantonis said the bigger ambition was to attract international investment in hydrogen production in South Australia, including creating an export industry to serve growing hydrogen economies in Japan, Korea and China, and making the state a “test bed” for hydrogen technology.

He released a “Hydrogen Roadmap” designed to encourage local production from renewable sources, rather than brown coal or gas, which he said were commonly used to produce hydrogen.

“We aspire to be a hydrogen-producing state – we aspire to export hydrogen,” he said.

Excess energy production from renewable sources could be used to produce hydrogen, as a “third arm” of a strategy to better use excess renewable energy production, alongside battery storage and pumped hydro.

He said export markets were opening in places like Japan, which has legislated a “hydrogen road map” and has promised to make the Tokyo Olympics the “hydrogen games“, with the fuel source to be used widely.

“That means they are creating the demand; that means they are going to start weaning off gas.”

The Government has called for hydrogen infrastructure proposals under the $150 million renewable technology fund, and has released an interactive map to help potential investors and developers identify local sites suitable for hydrogen infrastructure.

Some of the world’s leading car companies have released hydrogen-powered models, but they remain a rarity in Australia.

Toyota’s senior executive and director of hydrogen mobility in Australia, Bernie O’Connor, said hydrogen would “play a key role as a source for stationary, distributed and transportation power generation”.

“Our long-term vision is a future hydrogen economy and society built upon clean and renewable energy technologies,” O’Connor said.

Hydrogen is the simplest and most abundant element in the universe. It can be produced for use in fuel cells using any number of resources including fossil fuels and renewable energy through a wide range of processes.

The challenge is transporting and storing it, with the CSIRO involved in a two-year project to work on its proposed solution.

https://indaily.com.au/news/science-and-tech/2017/09/08/state-govt-to-invest-in-...
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Reply #93 - Jun 19th, 2018 at 10:18am
 
The wishy washy fiery death trap all electric heaps are about to be swept away into the car junkyards by the unstoppable hydrogen monolith.  Watch the trolls' eyes roll.



CES 2018: Hyundai NEXO hydrogen car revealed
January 09, 2018

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High-tech Hyundai eco flagship will drive itself up to 600km on one fill, with water vapour the only emission

   
Meet the Hyundai NEXO. It’s a new hydrogen fuel-cell vehicle that will be on sale in 2018 – including in Australia – and has been dubbed an “earth-saving effort” by company senior executives.

Unveiled at the 2018 Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas, this tree-hugging hydrogen fuel-cell electric vehicle (FCEV) is unlike a fossil-fuelled car in that it emits particles that are non-harmful to humans and the environment, in this case water vapour.

NEXO can park itself with or without a driver, has a widescreen video feed of rear blind spots and will drive itself on freeways and in traffic. But the NEXO’s most impressive party trick it’s hydrogen fuel-cell stack.

VIDEO:Showing glorious Hydrogen cars


Unlike battery electric cars, which can take hours to charge, refuelling the hydrogen fuel-cell car’s pressurised tank takes only slightly longer than it does to fill a petrol or diesel vehicle. Hyundai says it’s around five minutes.

The 95kW hydrogen fuel-cell then creates energy for the vehicle’s 40kW battery and to power the 120kW electric motor, thus propelling the vehicle.

It’s no Ferrari, but it generates enough power and torque (a combined 135kW/395Nm — up from 124kW) to zip it to 100km/h in 9.6 seconds.

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That’s 20 per cent quicker than the Tucson FCEV (12.5sec) and the NEXO is expected to provide strong acceleration at city speeds, such as 0-60km/h.

The Hyundai NEXO has a claimed range of around 600km — 30 per cent more than the Tucson FCEV (425km) and also more than the Tesla Model S’s circa-500km range.

Hyundai sources insist 800km has been achieved in regular testing.


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Because there’s no engine, ownership costs (maintenance and servicing) will be lower than those of a conventional combustion-engine vehicle, says Hyundai.

With a snazzy, head-turning exterior design that screams “I’m high tech, no really!”, the Hyundai NEXO is based on an all-new platform developed specifically for the new hydrogen powertrain.

It’s longer and wider than the Tucson FCEV it replaces, which means a larger and more practical interior.

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But while it’s lighter, faster and more efficient than its predecessor, the biggest hurdle facing hydrogen cars like the NEXO remains a lack of refuelling infrastructure.

Oil companies still have a stranglehold on the land vehicle fuel market but Hyundai is betting big bucks this will change, particularly as emissions regulations start throwing punches from the year 2020.

The first 20 orders for the NEXO – anywhere in the world it should be noted – were placed by the Australian Capital Territory government. Yep, Aussie bureaucrats are all over the NEXO like a cheap suit, and they’ll be among the first in the world to drive the high-tech SUV.

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By linking a new hydrogen fuelling station to its upcoming Hornsdale Windfarm project, ACT’s public servants will be able to silently cruise around in truly zero-emission vehicles. No coal-fired energy here.

But it’s not just government types who will get to zip around in silent serenity, because Hyundai wants to sell the NEXO to private buyers in Australia too. First public slaes will commence in Korea in March.

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The price of the Hyundai NEXO is not yet clear, but motoring.com.au understands Hyundai is aiming for a sub-$100,000 price tag in Australia. The luxury car tax will add a fair whack to the cost of the car and Hyundai sources have said leasing the car will make it palatable to early adopters and fleets buyers.

Australia could be a hydrogen leader
“The NEXO is the fourth generation FCEV for Hyundai and second generation to go into mass production. The technology is available, we just have to make sure Australia is ready to take the technology and start planning for the future of mobility,” says Scott Nargar, Hyundai Australia’s manager of future mobility.

He’s the man pushing Hyundai’s hydrogen dream in Australia, where just one hydrogen refuelling station exists (owned by Hyundai at its Sydney head office), and says Aussies have the scientific know-how to be leaders in the field.


Read the exciting rest of the future of transport in Australia here

https://www.motoring.com.au/ces-2018-hyundai-nexo-hydrogen-car-revealed-110461/
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Reply #94 - Jun 19th, 2018 at 10:36am
 
lee wrote on Jun 16th, 2018 at 12:24pm:
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 16th, 2018 at 6:33am:
so lee back to this original article did u follow the link and give this company your email address to get their report..... if not why... because it might look like a scam and not giving them your personal details..



Have you followed up on your own advice or was it too hard for you?

well I don't give companies my personal details when its a scam Lee ... do u ? Wink Wink
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Reply #95 - Jun 19th, 2018 at 11:14am
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 19th, 2018 at 10:36am:
well I don't give companies my personal details when its a scam Lee ... do u ?



Nope. But you still haven't shown it was a scam. Wink
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Reply #96 - Jun 19th, 2018 at 11:18am
 
lee,

the obnoxious troll DDH is just trying to get attention as he/she is usually ignored.
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lee wrote on Jun 19th, 2018 at 11:14am:
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 19th, 2018 at 10:36am:
well I don't give companies my personal details when its a scam Lee ... do u ?



Nope. But you still haven't shown it was a scam. Wink

https://secure.energyandcapital.com/148953?device=c&gclid=CjwKCAjw0ujYBRBDEiwAn7...
be my guest give them your details ........ Wink Wink Wink Wink
If u wont give them your details why not Lee ?
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Reply #98 - Jun 19th, 2018 at 12:53pm
 
The attention seeking troll is still hanging around.
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Reply #99 - Jun 19th, 2018 at 1:24pm
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 19th, 2018 at 12:36pm:
https://secure.energyandcapital.com/148953?device=c&gclid=CjwKCA
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Nothing there about a scam. Just your conspiracy theories again. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 19th, 2018 at 12:36pm:
If u wont give them your details why not Lee ?


Because I am a pensioner and don't need emails from services I won't use.

But hey we know you are on Tesla's list. Wink
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Reply #100 - Jun 19th, 2018 at 6:22pm
 
juliar wrote on Jun 19th, 2018 at 12:53pm:
The attention seeking troll is still hanging around.


yes the hydrogen future is getting nearer socko. 1 day down and another 20 years to go Cheesy LOL
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Reply #101 - Jun 20th, 2018 at 7:48am
 
lee wrote on Jun 19th, 2018 at 1:24pm:
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 19th, 2018 at 12:36pm:
https://secure.energyandcapital.com/148953?device=c&gclid=CjwKCA
jw0ujYBRBDEiwAn7...



Nothing there about a scam. Just your conspiracy theories again. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 19th, 2018 at 12:36pm:
If u wont give them your details why not Lee ?


Because I am a pensioner and don't need emails from services I won't use.

But hey we know you are on Tesla's list. Wink

wow u wont sign up either...... that's all that needs to be said.
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Reply #102 - Jun 20th, 2018 at 10:33am
 
Gosh those ridiculous trolls are STILL hanging around they are SO desperate to try to get noticed.
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Reply #103 - Jun 20th, 2018 at 10:56am
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 20th, 2018 at 7:48am:
wow u wont sign up either...... that's all that needs to be said.



Still avoiding posting proof of a scam? It just can't be out there, you having such marvellous search skills.Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #104 - Jun 29th, 2018 at 10:12am
 
The finicky highly dangerous all electrics carrying the dead weight of a lithium fire bomb use about half their energy just to move around the very heavy lithium battery which is a fire bomb just waiting to explode.

Electric cars are part of the same renewables scam - a lot of hot air and bs talk but in real life a complete failure, unable to stand on its own feet, living on the taxpayers subsidies.

But don't worry this constipated already obsolete dangerous relic will soon be replaced with the far more superior and convenient and safe hydrogen powered marvels which are a direct replacement for the current petrol and diesel cars with quick refuel and the same or longer range.  Goodbye range anxiety.

Once the public becomes fully aware of the extreme danger of all electric cars loaded with a lithium fire bomb they will run a mile to get away!!!!




Look at it this way.  Just over 100 years ago, that great pioneering automobile, the Ford Model T was literally a rejigged horse buggy with the horse taken off and a crude IC engine put in its place.  Within 10 years, it was a memory, overtaken by leap-frogging technology (admittedly still IC, but unrecognisable from the 'T').

Today's electric vehicles are following the same path - they are simply re-jigged bog standard compact sedans with the IC engine taken out and a crude (high pollution, very inefficient and very heavy) battery powered vacuum cleaner motor put in its place.  It will go exactly the same way as the Model T, into transport oblivion - and pretty quickly too.

And the leap-frogging technology is already being developed - hydrogen fuel cells to produce the power, super lightweight, efficient and clean capacitors to replace the batteries and lightweight micro motors being integral parts of the wheels.

In the cities of course, the power will be delivered by wire pick-up or wi-fi anyway. Because that's the key point of failure with these "new" EVs - they have a power source which is about half the weight of the vehicle - so you use half the power just to drag the power source along.


Not very bright is it?



And doesn't that lithium fire bomb battery burn, not to mention the dangerous highly toxic lethal gases produced.

And the lithium battery reignites days later!!!!

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How would you like to be sitting on this - a lithium fire bomb that went boom!!!!

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Not a problem with the vastly better hydrogen cars and trucks.

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