Check it out Socko. Tesla can't make enough of them. People want these cars !

Lol, troubles with the assembly line 

TheFunPolice wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 2:03pm:


Yeah, pity you can't google.

"Tesla has temporarily suspended manufacturing of its Model 3 electric car for the second time in two months, despite long waiting lists and a series of missed targets.

A spokesperson for the company said the assembly line at its plant in Fremont, California, and its Gigafactory in Nevada had been paused in order to “improve automation”. Tesla employees told BuzzFeed News that the shutdown came into effect “without warning” on Monday and would last for four or five days. "

http://www.theweek.co.uk/70320/tesla-model-3/page/0/1

lee wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 12:46pm:


That's a much better position to be in than declining sales as in Ford and Holden's case. Why didn't they think of building the equivalent of the Tesla Model 3 ? They could have done this a decade ago.

lee wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 6:00pm:


and how popular it is

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 7:12pm:



So you have proof of this? Or is it just another one of your assertions?

I guess the one about the assembly line is false too.

Sir lastnail wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 7:52pm:



Is that like "Do you still beat your wife"?

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 9:06pm:


So you don't have proof it is "shorters".

And of course therefore they don't know because only Musk knows, none of the board members etc.

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 9:06pm:



So tell me what is the proof of this Catastrophic AGW . You know increased extremes events etc.

NB: Climate Models are not proof.

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 9:06pm:


You don't think analysts have a good idea of business costs?

Of course we can wait till the end of Quarter3. Musk has said Tesla will be profitable by then.

Of course you are free to believe as you will. I can't force you to believe anything.

lee wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 9:20pm:

Proof lee not some dodgey analysis to that can say anything.

lee wrote on May 27^th, 2018 at 9:30pm:

I don't know if 3rd quarter will bring profit or not, at least you r quoting something that has been really said instead of speculation 
$8000 loss per Model3 is what u posted Lee, love to see the number's for that... ohh wait is Lee's dream. 

Tesla shares - 104,637,080

https://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/tsla/ownership-summary

Losses $3.35/ share


https://techcrunch.com/2018/05/02/tesla-earnings-q1-2018/

Loss - $350,534,218

Vehicles sold all versions - 29,980

Loss/ vehicle - $11,692

That's just rough figures and I don't have the inside contacts that business analysts have.

lee wrote on May 28^th, 2018 at 11:15am:

and Tesla increased production by how much?
Doesn't matter how often they spend more than they make as long as production keeps increasing (looks to be 100% increase this year over last year). If they where loosing money and same production, I think investors would be worried, as it is the stocks are way overpriced and that's because the investors know its a sure thing and prices r high because anyone with a brain is still trying to buy stock or it would be less than a dollar a share now 
still waiting for that magic 8k lose on the manufacturing of a Tesla3, Tesla3 are about 20% profit and raising. Still waiting Lee 

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 28^th, 2018 at 1:41pm:



"Prior to a planned shutdown in mid-April to further increase production, we produced more than 2,000 Model 3 vehicles for three straight weeks,and we hit 2,270 in the last of those weeks. Even at this stage of the ramp, Model 3 is already on the cusp of becoming the best-selling mid-sized premium sedan in the US, and our deliveries continue to increase."

https://insideevs.com/tesla-posts-q1-2018-results/

From a low base.

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 28^th, 2018 at 1:48pm:


"On the other hand, “let’s look at Tesla and the Model 3. Tesla is aiming for 25% gross margin on the Model 3 and mid-teens profit margin (let’s say 14%). "

https://cleantechnica.com/2018/03/12/tesla-model-3-profit-target-5x-higher-avera...

You do understand the difference between aiming for a profit and actually achieving it?

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 28^th, 2018 at 1:41pm:



Ask the people who did the report if you are so interested.

I only posted what was reported.

Now perhaps you can show where they have said they are achieving 20% profit margin.

And also the "shorters" claim

lee wrote on May 28^th, 2018 at 2:21pm:

I love that u post up something you pasted and when asked about it

I only posted what was reported.

That's ok , just don't expect to be taken seriously 

DonDeeHippy wrote on May 28^th, 2018 at 2:54pm:



I can read them too. You however don't appear to be able to comprehend the Plain English Summary let alone the Abstract.


You appear to want me to do the extra research for you.

Seeking ALpha the website is a know shorters page with articles wrong over and over again.
https://evobsession.com/institutional-bias-tesla-seeking-alpha/A good reply to the discussion was made by “tander,” who noted: “Their problem is they are trying to get authors to always make ‘actionable’ claims in their articles, because it gets clicks and sounds important. But the truth is most authors don’t have the training/understanding/data/work ethic to competently give ‘actionable’ advice positive or negative, so they end up making actionable claims without the actual info or record to back it up, and they skip doing balanced analysis so they inevitably go towards negative to get attention. That’s why you get some authors that are consistently wrong,
I am convinced that SA is 'institutionally' negative Tesla. The negative slant is aided and abutted by the SA owners and editors themselves.

Case in point: Montana Skeptic writes a whole article about a red M3 prototype in the Gigafactory not having a battery and is made of plastic exterior, and he shows a picture of the empty underbelly that he claimed that he got through his own sources - conclusion, the whole GF is a scam. While this in itself is silly and should not have been published (what is the big deal of a prototype not having a battery or is made of clay or plastic?), he also made a claim that Electrek failed to mention the absence of battery, or the plastic exterior in their live blog .

Turns out that picture with an empty underside, was actually Electrek's photo which you can see it in their website. Electrek even mentioned that the skin is plastic in their blog updates long before this SA hit piece was published.

Ideally there should have been an apology and Electrek's editor demanded that SA take down that picture. SA editors not only refused, but were supporting Montana Skeptic and making derogatory comments against Electrek.
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/is-seeking-alpha-out-of-control-with-ant...

Lees original "professional analysis" was a seekingalpha article.... some source
as it say if u say its going to rain everyday about a desert, u might get lucky a few times a year.

Tesla have said they r up to 500 Model3's a day now, that's 180,000 a year, they just got a plane loads of stuff from Europe to fix a battery bottle neck and think 850 a day in next few weeks. The have given details about a performance duel motor version now too, wont be much that can beat them on the streets )

lee wrote on May 29^th, 2018 at 4:57pm:


If Denizens lee and Valkie pooled their wealth they could probably afford this environmentally friendly little beauty:

lee wrote on May 29^th, 2018 at 4:57pm:

well they haven't stayed at the same rate of production yet and only turn out more and more cars per day, u can make the call Lee
if they do they will prosper and if they don't they will Fail....

Unforgiven wrote on May 29^th, 2018 at 5:01pm:


get socko to push it for them because EV's are no good for anything right ?? LOL

https://insideevs.com/tesla-model-3-sales-may-2018-u-s/
Just like its big brother the Model S (years running best selling large luxury car)the 3 is now the best selling mid sized luxury car in the USA
now another segment of luxury vehicle's have been taken over by Tesla 
The Germany might want to get their finger out.
All this and Tesla r still having problems with their production line, when its up to speed they will just about be selling enough in the mid sized range to equal all the other cars combined
The germen's will have fingers crossed they keep having production hell.

Back to the Model 3…we suspect that when the month’s final sales numbers are reported, the Model 3 will have outsold the next closest plug-in electric car by a ratio of well over 2 to 1.
Oh…there’s one last bit of brag-worthy news here. At 6,250 sold, the Model 3 is now the single-month sales record holder for the U.S., surpassing the old record of 5,850 Model S sales back in late 2016.

Wow. if they keep going up they will get to where they were in September.

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 17^th, 2018 at 12:42pm:



Remind of the profit they have made so far. Now if they are making things and not making a profit, then they are slowly but surely going broke by definition.

lee wrote on Jun 17^th, 2018 at 12:48pm:

Does lee know what going broke is?

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 17^th, 2018 at 2:16pm:

lee doesn't like other people 

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 17^th, 2018 at 2:23pm:

But we all love trolls anway 

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 17^th, 2018 at 2:16pm:



So tell us you know the difference between the Asset & Liabilities Account and the Profit & Loss Account.

Bankruptcy is when you can't pay your bills as and when they fall due. That's in the Asset and Liabilities Account. If you never make a profit your assets go down, which puts pressure on your ability to pay bills. And nothing to do with profits.  But it will send you broke.

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 17^th, 2018 at 6:23pm:



hat must be new maths you are using. They haven't made a profit but they are a profitable company?

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 17^th, 2018 at 6:23pm:



Do you remember the other dot com stocks that didn't survive? Perhaps you should look at them. They never made a profit either.

Nah. You know absolutely that Tesla couldn't go that road.

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 17^th, 2018 at 6:56pm:



But you are the one comparing them to Amazon on no evidence.

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 17^th, 2018 at 6:56pm:



That's speculation.

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 17^th, 2018 at 6:56pm:



Good. I hope you have your money invested with them as they are "so safe".

You do hold Tesla shares; don't you?

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 17^th, 2018 at 7:39pm:



because they are burning money. because they have not made a profit.

"Tesla earnings show record revenues with record losses"

https://techcrunch.com/2018/05/02/tesla-earnings-q1-2018/

First quarter this year. It doesn't inspire me with confidence. You however seem ok with that

You didn't say you were invested, so I take it you are not.

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 17^th, 2018 at 7:39pm:


I am not determined they will fail. I couldn't give a fat black rats a*se.

lee wrote on Jun 17^th, 2018 at 8:05pm:


You want them to fail because you are addicted to oil and probably have shares in oil companies or their spin-offs. That's the usual motive for bagging EV's. Just ask your good mate socko where his vested interest lies ?

Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 17^th, 2018 at 8:20pm:



Wrong again. Another one of your failed predictions.

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 18^th, 2018 at 7:05am:



Very good.

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 17^th, 2018 at 6:56pm:



Where did you pluck that figure from? Is it what the shareholders value it at or the companies worth? They are two different things.

lee wrote on Jun 17^th, 2018 at 8:28pm:

What's the difference between a share-holder and a stock-holder?

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 17^th, 2018 at 7:39pm:

He doesn't have to answer the question does he mr speaker?

lee wrote on Jun 18^th, 2018 at 1:45pm:

Said f***head number one 

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 20^th, 2018 at 9:36am:



tell me how a company avoids bankruptcy if the never make a profit.

BTW - That is too well written for you. Why not post the link?

https://electrek.co/2018/06/28/tesla-model-3-dual-motor-prodcution/
Tesla has opened up orders for a wider number of Model 3 reservation holders this week and it looks like the company is shifting to focus on production of the new dual motor and performance version.
We’ve now learned that Tesla is registering an important batch of Model 3 dual motor VINs as it prepares to start volume production

It looks like they r making 5000 battery packs a week now , they just hit the top 100 of car sales last month , still just setting up production and best selling car in their class last month as well.
No other car manufacturer is even getting close to making a competitor to this vehicle ,
Now Elon is talking about their new ute, I think id be worried if I was Ford or GM .

lee wrote on Jun 29^th, 2018 at 12:56pm:

There there lee I know your disappointed they haven’t gone bankwupt yet 

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 29^th, 2018 at 7:38pm:

Lee is just angry he'll be forever remembered by his grandkids for shoving copper Internet down their throats while he made a measly paper profit!

Lee's worst day will be Tesla's best day

The cockheads at Goldman Sucks will be out of a job soon LOL

Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2018 at 11:18am:


2025

https://insideevs.com/teslas-first-store-in-new-zealand-is-now-open/
Tesla reveals new Auckland based store, just ahead of the right-hand drive Model 3 production start
The carmaker racked up an impressive 115 sales in the country year-to-date, and with the arrival of the right-hand-drive Model 3, those are only going to get better. In comparison, Jaguar sold only 145 units, while Maserati with 59 and Porsche with 176 comprise the bulk of the high-end luxury vehicle sales in the country.

Good on Tesla, getting into another market, and because the install their own chargers, less worry about range, wouldn't take many to cover new Zealand either

lee wrote on Jun 29^th, 2018 at 12:56pm:

Denial is more than a river in Egypt.

Geez, Lees, desperation much? Or will you claim this is your attempt at humor?

Last month The Tesla 3 outsold all bmw cars in USA and was the 5th biggest selling car their as well.
Must be going bankwupt hey 

https://insideevs.com/tesla-out-delivers-porsche-in-q3/
Porsche is now selling way fewer cars than Tesla.
Not only Jaguar, but Porsche too is not able to keep pace with Tesla anymore. According to industry analyst Matthias Schmidt (schmidtmatthias.de), Tesla sold 26% more cars than Porsche during the third quarter.
Q3’2018 results:
Tesla – 83,500
Porsche – 66,000
Jaguar – 41,900
Clearly, it’s the Tesla Model 3 effect (over 55,800) and we don’t see any circumstances that would allow the situation to reverse in the near future.
Now, it’s only a matter of time before Tesla will be ahead of Porsche YTD (probably not this year, but like sometime in 2019):
Nine months of 2018 results:
Porsche – 196,600
Tesla – 154,200
Jaguar – 136,000

Looks like Jag have thrown in the towel

https://insideevs.com/jaguar-considers-electric-only-next-decade/

The I-Pace was just the jumping off point.
Everyone wants to take on Tesla, it seems… or maybe certain companies just see the benefit of electric motors over internal combustion engines. Whatever the case, Jaguar might be the latest in a laundry list of brands to do so. Following the initial success of the I-Pace, the British marque could switch to a fully electric lineup in as little as 10 years.


Considering Porsche and Tesla have the highest profit margins of their cars, now that Tesla is outselling Porscha it give a bit of prospective on how much they r making now...
The last 2 months Tesla have the highest grossing car sold in the USA with the Tesla 3. Top that with the heighest profit margin and even though other companies r selling higher number than Tesla they wont be making anywhere near as much money.

Them not having made a profit yet because they have been expanding is paying off now....Last year they made 100,000 cars the last quarter they made 80,000 cars, thats 320,000 yearly production... In the next few days Tesla will be releasing how much they made in the last quarter, it will be very interesting.
ohh  6 years ago they made 2000 car that year.... 2000 to 320,000 in 6 years is a amazing feat. Their customers also love them with the highest approval rating of any car, last month the owners where volunteering to help get their cars out of the showrooms to help them out.

https://insideevs.com/tesla-model-3-budget-stretch-phenomenon/
THE ‘TESLA STRETCH’ IS PROVING CAR BUYERS WILL PAY MORE FOR A MODEL 3
The Tesla Model 3 is turning out to be an electric car that’s seducing car buyers across multiple market segments. According to CleanTechnica, “45% of current electric car drivers plan to buy a Tesla next.” Okay, that’s understandable. Non-Tesla EV drivers might be interested in a Tesla. That said, it’s extraordinary how many gas-powered car owners, from vastly different auto segments, are transitioning to Teslas.
Bloomberg reports, “When Chief Executive Officer Elon Musk first revealed the Model 3 at a late-night party in March 2016, the vehicle was expected to compete in the premium sedan market against the likes of Audi, BMW, Lexus and Mercedes. Instead, owners of mass market cars like the Honda Accord and Toyota Prius are opening their wallets for the sedan, signaling that the vehicle is pushing Tesla beyond its luxury niche and more into the mainstream.”
“For Earl Banning, getting behind the wheel of a Tesla meant spending more than he ever had on a car. The 43-year-old Air Force neuropsychologist from Dayton, Ohio, ponied up $54,000 for a Model 3, figuring he would save on gas and keep the car for a long time. It was almost double what he had previously paid for a fully loaded Honda Accord,” reports Bloomberg.
Banning says, “I call it the Tesla Stretch — everyone I’ve met who owns a Model 3 is willing to spend more to get into a Model 3.” For example, a former Nissan Altima owner, 36-year-old Eric Snapat, spent nearly $60,000 on his new Tesla. And 26-year-old Robert Preston actually charges $155 a day to rent out his Tesla on Turo to help pay for his new Model 3. “Every weekend I have someone renting it,” Preston said.
“Tesla recently said that more than half the trade-ins for the Model 3 were from vehicles priced below $35,000. And there are signs that the sedan’s popularity is adding [some] pressure on rival carmakers… In October, sales of cars such as the Accord and Prius continued to slip as deliveries of the Model 3 ramped up,” according to Bloomberg.
“Tesla has captured lightning in a bottle,” said Jeremy Acevedo, manager of industry analysis at researcher Edmunds. “It’s hard to even benchmark the Model 3 against other cars because it’s broken the mold in so many ways.”


American would also have to love the Tesla because they r the most American made vehicle's u can buy, I remember ppl buying Holdens because they thought they where Aussie, even though  they r really American....

https://insideevs.com/tesla-model-3-sales-november-u-s-2018/
Year-Over-Year
If we look at year-over-year for the Model 3, the gains are ridiculous. In November 2017, Tesla sold 337 Model 3. Compare that to last month’s 18,650 and you’ll notice there’s more than just a wee bit of growth there.
The YTD tally so far for the Model 3 stands at 114,472.
The highest previous volume of sales ever for an electric car in a single year was back in 2014 when LEAF sales hit 30,200, so the Model 3 obliterated that record and there’s still one big Model 3 month left for the year.
Tesla's r maturing nicely, also 6000 S @ X sales in the USA as well, China has just lowered its tariff on yank cars so they should pick up there again as well