What an informative reply! Thank you.
Aussie wrote on May 26
th, 2018 at 2:03pm:
It is far worse than that. ... to falsely complete the nomination in light of S.44, there are serious criminal consequences. The whole of Section 44 is included in the Notice on that Nomination Form.
Personally I consider it High Treason to fraudulently enter an election, denying the democratic governance of Australia. Life imprisonment would be an appropriate means to avoid anyone trying such a thing again.
Not sure I'd take it that far, but it is very disappointing that not ONE of the disqualified MPs suffered any penalty, other than disqualification.
Aussie wrote on May 26
th, 2018 at 2:03pm:
How on Earth it would not have crossed the bloated boozing bonking beetroot's mind to check given he well knew his Father was a born and bred Kiwi is not only grossly negligent and cavalier, it is bizarre....and he was the Deputy PM.
There was nothing grey about it as the High Court took little time to make very clear. Even Joyce knew he was stuffed.
I take it you have personal issues with Mr Joyce's skin colour and personal life? It is not helpful to our discussion but quite a funny take on it nevertheless.
Well, no, I have no problem with his skin colour and yes I do have a problem with his personal ethics and integrity which seem to be totally non-existent. This makes the point very succinctly:
'Who's your Daddy, Sebastian?"
Joyce is a bloated, bonking, boozing beetroot, undeniably.
New Zealand does stand out as our closest cousin, and there are specific visa rules for Kiwis in Australia and I assume vice-versa, so considering the numbers of wrongly-elected politicians we've so far heard about, my
guess is that many candidates never gave it much thought until that cataclysmic phone call last year.
Passport/visa arrangements between Australia and NZ have been pretty much the same as with any other Country.
Now I am glad that they have cut out the deadwood, as such. I don't mind Barnaby, myself. One positive I see in him is that his public persona tends to reflect traditional Australian values. No wonder he's such an endangered species lately.
I do not regard it as an Australian value to be bonking the taxpayer funded staffers, being a blatant brazen adulterer, having taxpayers pay for your bit of fluff to tour around with you, betray such a loyal Wife and Family, then....make it appear as though your bit of fluff is screwing around with others who might be the father of Sebastian, and now cash in to the tune of $250,000.00 on sleazy grubby behaviour.
I assume you remember the second onslaught against Joyce over his personal life. It does tend to point to there being a deliberate campaign against him personally since that phone call.
I am unsure what you are referring to.
It has a nasty smell all over it, so I am glad he's overcome both of those attacks. He is not a criminal. He is just not a Labor politician. That was his crime IMHO.
No....his 'crimes' were/are as we have discussed.
Aussie wrote on May 26
th, 2018 at 2:03pm:
To ensure the Deputy PM of Australia is lawfully occupying a seat in Parliament is far from a dirty ploy. It is a civic duty on every Australian.
The Opposition, like every Australian has that said civic duty.
Don't be silly, Aussie. You are clutching at straws here. It is firstly the duty of every candidate in an election to ensure that they themselves are 100% Australian, and like I explained about my own heritage, there are grey areas in every individual circumstance, moreover Kiwis and Australians have quite a unique relationship. I can understand how he may have been caught out, like I mentioned before.
The High Court is less understanding than you.
I have less understanding of the other cases I have seen on the ABC news, particularly the Lamb explanation that her mother doesn't like her anymore. I wonder what reason her mother has for that? Perhaps her mother could enlighten us as to why Ms Lamb is best to stay out of the public eye and politics, but we shouldn't stoop so low as to dredge up the personal relationships of others.
I have no idea.
Aussie wrote on May 26
th, 2018 at 2:03pm:
The ALP and Shorten have far less to lose.
Are not at least two of the contested seats, (not Perth or Fremantle) currently help by Labor? History tells us that oppositions almost always win byelections so Labor doesn't have much to lose in reality, but the Libs don't expect to win Labor seats in July, and they should still have the majority. Maybe I am not understanding your meaning properly. Do you mean loss of reputation?
I don't think that Bill Shorten has much of a reputation left after his rolled-gold stuffup, but I'll guess that Labor will win all the seats contested and the Libs will come out of it with the same one-seat majority.
I am really feeling some good release after our discussion, Aussie. We don't agree but it has been a great relief for me to have a word on these political matters, and I hope we can argue like this again some time. Thank You.