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May 24th, 2018 at 3:21pm
 
28th July, 2018.

So that school holidays are not disrupted, FFS!
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Reply #1 - May 24th, 2018 at 4:07pm
 
Aussie wrote on May 24th, 2018 at 3:21pm:
28th July, 2018.

So that school holidays are not disrupted, FFS!

Oh, how ... "convenient" ... I call shenanigans.

23 June was a plausible date on those grounds, but it was delayed for another 5 weeks due to vague mumblings about "regulations". 15 days between the High Court decision on 9 May and the announcement of the date is a long time.

Yet the writs for the New England by-election were issued the same day the seat was declared vacant. The SAME FRIGGING DAY. The by-election for New England was held just 36 days later, as soon as possible.

Had these by-elections been held with the same haste, they could have been called as early as June 16th, 38 days after the High Court decision.

33 days after the writs is generally the minimum time. Had the writs been issued three days ago, 23 June was a plausible date. But the Liberals (as usual) pissfarted around to delay the by-elections.

I thought Smith was a good Speaker, but he's lost my respect over this. He's just as partisan and corrupt as the rest of the Liberals.
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Reply #2 - May 24th, 2018 at 4:31pm
 
And unless I have misheard, that is the weekend of the ALP National Conference.

Smells.

Completely and unusually very long.
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Reply #3 - May 24th, 2018 at 4:36pm
 
Aussie wrote on May 24th, 2018 at 4:31pm:
And unless I have misheard, that is the weekend of the ALP National Conference.

Smells.

Completely and unusually very long.

You did not mishear it.

It's very clear that the Liberals have very deliberately done this to mess with the Labor Party. All the more reason why these Liberal grubs must be voted out at the next election.
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Reply #4 - May 24th, 2018 at 4:46pm
 
Wonder how much labor will further increase their majority
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Reply #5 - May 24th, 2018 at 4:50pm
 
Aussie wrote on May 24th, 2018 at 3:21pm:
28th July, 2018.

So that school holidays are not disrupted, FFS!

Which is a lie. By-elections and elections have been held in school holidays before.

Two recent examples:

* Bennelong by-election, 2017: 16/12/18. School term ended 15/12/18.
* 2016 Federal election - school holidays in most states and territories.
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Reply #6 - May 24th, 2018 at 4:56pm
 
Tony Burke is giving the Government a shellacking over this (source):
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Respecting the fact that the decision is not only made by you in terms of the advice that you have received by the Australian electoral commission and [I] ask that my comments be seen very much in that context:

There are a number of byelections which have occurred since you took the chair. In North Sydney the writs were issued within three days; in Bennelong two days; New England the same day; Batman six days. It will now be for these byelections a delay of 14 days, and instead of the people going to vote 35/36/44 days later, they will go to vote 79 days later.

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And I also respect that the decision is now made, is now made. The letters that you have tabled, you said were on the 17th of May and the 23rd of May. Had the decision been made within the time that the other byelections had been made, it would had been made before those letters were even received from the Australian electoral commission.

The Australian Electoral Commission have claimed they want all candidates to know the new rules. I think anyone running for these byelections, if they don’t know now what the high court has decided, there is nothing that will help them.

There is nothing which will help them ... the AEC normally would not recommend a date as you have said. On this occasion they have recommended a date and they have used, they have used the fact they want this new regulation as the reason. Now, they appeared before the relevant inquiry months ago. They had their involvement with the relevant inquiry through a period last year. The regulations and discussion with the opposition happened more than a week ago, and we have a situation now, where that 79-day delay, which has not applied anywhere else, is on the basis of the Australia Electoral Commission, which if the prime minister went down to Yarralumla and called an election today, they would be able to conduct it with 150 seats in 33 days’ time. For 150 seats!

Instead they say it has to be delayed all this period and it just happens to be on the day of the Labor party national conference. It is a ‘what a coincidence moment’ from the Australian Electoral Commission.

What a coincidence from the Australian Electoral Commission that is.

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I raise one final point, because of the way the Australian Electoral Commission have written to you and the arguments they have put and because of the initial delay waiting for their letters, it means the parliamentary representation in communities around Australia, who could have a representative on the 16th of June had the writs been issued immediately, instead will not be represented in this place.

And what was allowed to happen in the other byelections, including members on that side, now means there will be a delay in parliamentary representation, which could have been avoided and would not occur in the circumstances of a general election.

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Reply #7 - May 24th, 2018 at 6:36pm
 
Surely the speaker will call the election on a day that will not disrupt the ALP National Conference....The Coalition could not be that petty and insecure could they???

Huh Huh Huh
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Reply #8 - May 24th, 2018 at 7:27pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on May 24th, 2018 at 6:36pm:
Surely the speaker will call the election on a day that will not disrupt the ALP National Conference....The Coalition could not be that petty and insecure could they???

Huh Huh Huh

Oh yes they could ... they have form!

Remember Abbott denying pairs? Opening sealed cabinet documents?
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Reply #9 - May 24th, 2018 at 7:37pm
 
Turnbull is hoping that time improves his chances.  Might be right.
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Reply #10 - May 24th, 2018 at 8:44pm
 
Aussie wrote on May 24th, 2018 at 7:37pm:
Turnbull is hoping that time improves his chances.  Might be right. 


35 poll losses all of a sudden going to swing around ? Probably in the Australian
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Reply #11 - May 24th, 2018 at 8:47pm
 
Its time wrote on May 24th, 2018 at 8:44pm:
Aussie wrote on May 24th, 2018 at 7:37pm:
Turnbull is hoping that time improves his chances.  Might be right. 


35 poll losses all of a sudden going to swing around ? Probably in the Australian


Longman is the target.  Held by ALP with a 0.08% margin.

Mayo is secondary.

The others will be retained by the ALP.

Think I might get a bit active in Longman.
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Reply #12 - May 25th, 2018 at 2:43am
 
I will be having no sympathy for any complaints by Labor when it 'assured' us all that it's vetting process was 'rolled gold' and that none of its politicians were in breach of the Constitution.
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Reply #13 - May 25th, 2018 at 8:38am
 
Brilliant tactics by the Libs throws the union thugs controlled Labor Party into even more of a chaotic brothel.

Hilarious to see those HATE Merchants Wenny Pong and Tanya Whatshername shrieking hysterical HATE.

Gee those two really remind you of two similar nasty types here.




‘Sneaky tactic’: Labor outrage as byelections called for July 28
Luke Henriques Gomes Canberra correspondent 3:55pm, May 24, 2018 Updated: 6:57pm, May 24

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Speaker Tony Smith said the byelections would be held on July 28. Photo: AAP

Five byelections – including two crucial marginal seat contests – will be held on July 28, Speaker Tony Smith has confirmed, in a significant delay that prompted claims from Labor of a “sneaky tactic”.

After Question Time on Thursday, Mr Smith said he had received advice from the Australian Electoral Commission that July 28 was the earliest “optimal” date for the byelections.

That was because he could not issue the writs until the commission had implemented a new nomination process to avoid another citizenship fiasco, and because there were school holidays between June 30 and July 21.

The date for the five byelections, in Perth and Fremantle, Mayo (South Australia), Longman (Queensland) and Braddon (Tasmania) coincides with the weekend of Labor’s National Conference.

The announcement sparked fury in the House of Representatives with Shadow Attorney-General Mark Dreyfus booted from the chamber as one MP repeatedly declaring the ruling “an outrage”.

In an attempt not to reflect on the Speaker, Manager of Opposition Business Tony Burke noted that Mr Smith had made the decision in consultation with the commission.

But he argued the delay was completely unacceptable, saying residents in the five electorates would be without a parliamentary representative for 78 days.

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In a statement, Labor’s deputy leader Tanya Plibersek said it was a “disgraceful delay and a sneaky tactic from Malcolm Turnbull”.

“It would appear this has been deliberately designed to disadvantage the Labor Party, given our National Conference is scheduled for that weekend,” she said.

Saying he accepted the decision was now made, Mr Burke said the date selected “just happens to be on the same day as the Labor Party National Conference”.

Finance Minister Mathias Cormann said the byelections would have been held much sooner if the three Labor members had resigned earlier and Bill Shorten had not run a “protection racket” for his MPs.

The clashing dates would put significant pressure on Labor’s campaign, meaning the conference would be likely to be rescheduled.

Disputing suggestions the delay was unprecedented, Mr Smith said a byelection in Gippsland in 2008 was held 80 days from when the MP’s resignation was handed down.

“That was a single electoral event, not five caused across four states,” Mr Smith said.

Last year’s Bennelong byelection took place one day after the New South Wales school year ended, Labor figures pointed out on Thursday.

Speaking on Sky News, former Labor minister Stephen Conroy suggested the July 28 date meant the government was likely to call an early election, most likely for August or September.

Electoral Commissioner Tom Rogers was forced to front a Senate Estimates hearing immediately after the Speaker’s announcement.

“It’s not my role to set the date of byelections,” Tom Rogers told the hearing.

Mr Rogers said he had provided advice but the commission had told the Speaker it was ready to hold a byelection on whichever day was deemed appropriate.

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In a fiery clash, Labor Senator Penny Wong accused Mr Rogers of providing a “carefully written letter” that provided “cover to the Speaker”.

When Finance Minister Mathias Cormann suggested Senator Wong was reflecting on the independence of the electoral commissioner, she replied: “Yes, I am.”

In a pointed remark given Labor’s recent citizenship woes, Mr Rogers took issue with any suggestion he had acted improperly.

“Several members of the House have resigned, resigned as a result of failing to follow procedures, and now somehow the AEC is being fingered as being responsible for the outcomes of this,” he said.

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2018/05/24/speaker-announces-byelection...
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Reply #14 - May 25th, 2018 at 9:17am
 
The electorates will see right through libtards and give them a whacking on poll day , comfortable Labor victories in all the seats
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